Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,151,277 members, 7,811,823 topics. Date: Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 08:22 PM

Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos - Religion (5) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos (47995 Views)

Apostle Suleman & His Wife, Lizzy Celebrate 16th Wedding Anniversary (Photo) / Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy, Playing Football & Table Tennis (Photos) / Apostle Suleman & His Wife Lizzy Dance Joyously In Church (Pics) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Alphamale2017(m): 9:20pm On Mar 25, 2017
weedtheweeds:
what is wrong with this one? Are you okay? who is a Muslim? just because you blindly follow a man does not mean all Christians do. you do not worship God by worshipping men. You cannot expect all Christians to vouch for Suleiman on account of being registered to a forum. Are you a Christian at all? Suleiman should go and clear all the allegations before him instead of posting pictures of love that wasn't there. Why hasn't he been posting all these pictures before the scandal? This is purely cheap and childish antics and I will not fall for that. as long as he keeps putting himself out there, he will be up for public scrutiny. Do not be naive, bro by calling Lalasticalala like he is your father. grow up! this is a forum where you and i express our opinions. I have said mine, and Lala has given you the opportunity to do yours as well. if you are mature enough, express yourself
those are birthday pictures. So make him nor snap again . ? Na today we start to see false accusation. ?
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by weedtheweeds: 9:24pm On Mar 25, 2017
Is good to drag you out of the sheeplike coat Muslims use as a camouflage. This is coming from a member of the so-called religion of peace? LOL hypocrites!! Blood-thirsty god? How did you think Islam spread? You were forced to accept it, but you don't know. There is nothing to keep private. You can spill the T. I am a Christian and Christianity doesn't encourage killing. Do you understand that?
hardballripplez:
. You sound bitter in your post. The thread was about Suleiman. Take time to read who the bible asked you to kill, infants. And if I may ask you. How many innocent people have you killed so far? To satisfy your blood thirsty God. Just as you guys lied as it is written in the bible that Jesus asked people to start killing innocent people. I promise to keep this private. But just curious that as a good Christian ego follows the dictates of the bible. How many innocent men and women looking for their daily bread have you mowed down?
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by simpleseyi: 9:26pm On Mar 25, 2017
Can anyone post pictures of Bishop & Pastor (Mrs) Oyedepo or Pastor & Pastor (Mrs) Adeboye doing such displays like Omotola Kehinde and her pilot husband or Tonto Decay and her philanthropist exhusband? NO, you can never see such respected men and women of God (until proven otherwise) in such display of insanity.

I really envy this Alfa Sule with a big dicck fuccking all the big girls with big nyansh(es) tongue . Alfa Sule, the Apostle that loves three-some and four-some grin.

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by princessayesha(f): 9:28pm On Mar 25, 2017
xstry:
see this flatheaded jew
Guy u dangerous fa grin

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by weedtheweeds: 9:28pm On Mar 25, 2017
Let the man go and clear his name int he court. All these weak stunts are so cheap for a grown man like that. Adultery is not a good case before God. Ashewo men can't continue fooling us.
oruma19:
See dis one, u are part of the mumu Christians we have around from ur comments. Suleman owes u no apology. U can go and die for all we care. Nonsense. You obviously are one of those people being used by the people of the other religion to ridicule ur own religion. When they finish abusing the apostle then they face Jesus Christ and abuse Him while u the mumu "so called" Christian join forces with them. ode. better kip ur mouth shut if u don't have anything to say. Check my comments , I am not a dogmatic follower Like u bt I also will not be used as a tool against my own religion. Let me not read anything from ur sorry ass abt this suleman's issue again else u l see trouble here . Nonsense.

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Olu317(m): 9:28pm On Mar 25, 2017
ItsQuinn:
Yes i'm sure! fake ass couple. They think they're doing us but they are doing themselves.
As far as the case is concerned nobody really know the EXACT TRUTH . EVERYTHING PEOPLE HAVE been SAYING OR SENDING VIA SOCIAL MEDIA ARE ALL SPECULATION. LET'S NOT BE CARRIED AWAY UNTIL TRUTH EMERGE. HAVE YOU KNOWLEDGE OF A MAN CALLED O. J SIMPSON?, No matter,how long lie stay atop ,truth always catch up with it even if it doesn't lead to the exact prosecution. Take it easy lady.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by princessayesha(f): 9:32pm On Mar 25, 2017
weedtheweeds:
cheap thrills!! Childish antics. Ashawo must do everything to clean hin yarsh. Is this how it used to be? We know fake when we see it. All these fake flash and glitz will end. When you have a case you trash it out and move on. The wife is only saving her pot of honey. No be so Chris Oyakhilome wife do for many years till the thing tire am? every movie production has an ending and the casts will return to their normal lives.
Look how this old man sidon for small pikin jangilova and one agbaya day push am all for this stunt. Otobo you try o. You don turn old man to odoryor in front of camera. The hairstyle sef confirm baba Sule as an olosho old timer
The cameraman is the winner in this situation. The man has made money from this scandal.

Koran 2:191 "Slay the unbelievers whenever you find them."
Koran 3:28 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends."
Koran 3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable."
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam".
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those that believe in scriptures other than the Koran."
Koran 8:60 "Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels."
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid; urge all muslims to fight them."
Koran 9:5 "When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you find them."
Koran 9:30 "The Jews and Christians are perverts, fight them."
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood."
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies".
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.


This one is for the muslims thinking they are free or exonerated in this scandals. The above proves why Imams and the Muslim leaders are adamant to the carnage and massacres by the Boko Haram and the Fulani herdsmen.
Have you ever wondered why the President never visits all the places where attacks are carried out to sympathise with the families of the victims?
have you ever wondered why the northerners seem unworried about the bokos and the fulani herdsmen?

na yoruba muslims i sorry for pass cos the northerners no no the difference between nyamiri and yoloba.
just as the Arabs dont care about the northern muslims
And you got those verses from Quran? grin If those verses are not really in the Holy Quran may u die by fire squad...say amen smiley

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by princessayesha(f): 9:35pm On Mar 25, 2017
Mummy knows that there is money grin wallahi da baida kudi ..... grin ok bye

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by princessayesha(f): 9:39pm On Mar 25, 2017
oruma19:
lalasticlala, we the Christians have said Muslims should not comment on Christian issues just the way u removed Christians from Muslim affairs on nairaland. Any attempt at misbehaviour by the Muslims about our Apostle will be met with serious " debasing analysis of their leaders too" don't allow muslims to comment on Christian issues. If u ban me I will campaign against u on all social media possible and we the Christians will leave nairaland for u and ur Muslim brothers. Let's see how u l make money from the traffic again. It's a promise I will fulfil when the time comes. For now, Apostle suleman is innocent and should only be discussed by Christians.
grin grin grin

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Nobody: 10:19pm On Mar 25, 2017
princessayesha:

Guy u dangerous fa grin
grin

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Mboi2: 10:21pm On Mar 25, 2017
kolaaderin:
All na damage control.

Some eyes are opened already and those who refused to see remain blinded. Enough said
Blind eyes that didn't see the nonsense by that prostitute, you will remain blind as Suleiman enjoys
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by TheFilmmaker: 10:29pm On Mar 25, 2017
kolaaderin:


Are you still a learner, she is only protecting the Garri that made them successful. if she reacts then its over for the business.
Learn my lady.
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, no one but yourself can free your mind. Open your eyes so you can see clearly, dont let anyone tell you what to see or what not to see.


Leave MizMyColi, I don know her tey tey. Common sense, she no get

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by FILEBE(m): 10:34pm On Mar 25, 2017
weedtheweeds:
cheap thrills!! Childish antics. Ashawo must do everything to clean hin yarsh. Is this how it used to be? We know fake when we see it. All these fake flash and glitz will end. When you have a case you trash it out and move on. The wife is only saving her pot of honey. No be so Chris Oyakhilome wife do for many years till the thing tire am? every movie production has an ending and the casts will return to their normal lives.
Look how this old man sidon for small pikin jangilova and one agbaya day push am all for this stunt. Otobo you try o. You don turn old man to odoryor in front of camera. The hairstyle sef confirm baba Sule as an olosho old timer
The cameraman is the winner in this situation. The man has made money from this scandal.

Koran 2:191 "Slay the unbelievers whenever you find them."
Koran 3:28 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends."
Koran 3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable."
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam".
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those that believe in scriptures other than the Koran."
Koran 8:60 "Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels."
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid; urge all muslims to fight them."
Koran 9:5 "When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you find them."
Koran 9:30 "The Jews and Christians are perverts, fight them."
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood."
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies".
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.


This one is for the muslims thinking they are free or exonerated in this scandals. The above proves why Imams and the Muslim leaders are adamant to the carnage and massacres by the Boko Haram and the Fulani herdsmen.
Have you ever wondered why the President never visits all the places where attacks are carried out to sympathise with the families of the victims?
have you ever wondered why the northerners seem unworried about the bokos and the fulani herdsmen?

na yoruba muslims i sorry for pass cos the northerners no no the difference between nyamiri and yoloba.
just as the Arabs dont care about the northern muslims

This verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

“Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]


1. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.


2. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.


3. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriks wherever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.


4. Critics jump from verse 5 to verse 7

Arun Shourie is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatawas’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realize that he has skipped verse 6.


5. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6]

The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?


This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Sunrule3(m): 10:35pm On Mar 25, 2017
weedtheweeds:
cheap thrills!! Childish antics. Ashawo must do everything to clean hin yarsh. Is this how it used to be? We know fake when we see it. All these fake flash and glitz will end. When you have a case you trash it out and move on. The wife is only saving her pot of honey. No be so Chris Oyakhilome wife do for many years till the thing tire am? every movie production has an ending and the casts will return to their normal lives.
Look how this old man sidon for small pikin jangilova and one agbaya day push am all for this stunt. Otobo you try o. You don turn old man to odoryor in front of camera. The hairstyle sef confirm baba Sule as an olosho old timer
The cameraman is the winner in this situation. The man has made money from this scandal.

Koran 2:191 "Slay the unbelievers whenever you find them."
Koran 3:28 "Muslims must not take the infidels as friends."
Koran 3:85 "Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable."
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam".
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those that believe in scriptures other than the Koran."
Koran 8:60 "Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels."
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid; urge all muslims to fight them."
Koran 9:5 "When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you find them."
Koran 9:30 "The Jews and Christians are perverts, fight them."
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood."
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies".
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.


This one is for the muslims thinking they are free or exonerated in this scandals. The above proves why Imams and the Muslim leaders are adamant to the carnage and massacres by the Boko Haram and the Fulani herdsmen.
Have you ever wondered why the President never visits all the places where attacks are carried out to sympathise with the families of the victims?
have you ever wondered why the northerners seem unworried about the bokos and the fulani herdsmen?

na yoruba muslims i sorry for pass cos the northerners no no the difference between nyamiri and yoloba.
just as the Arabs dont care about the northern muslims
u smoke too much weed lately bro! Watch out!

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by megafone: 10:39pm On Mar 25, 2017
MizMyColi:
No woman who has borne children for her husband will know that he cheated on her, got a harlot pregnant and even promised same marriage, and yet radiate this kind of happiness.

They look really happy.

Suleiman's countenance looks like he's telling "someone" to go to hell.

The wife's looks effortlessly happy, she seems to be basking in the Euphoria of the moment.

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by kareemkamil(m): 10:42pm On Mar 25, 2017
Nawa for this man oooooo, see his face like Niger Delta Millitant. He also like lymosuang, his followers should wakeup.

2 Likes

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by ademusiwa3r: 11:09pm On Mar 25, 2017
He e.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by ademusiwa3r: 11:10pm On Mar 25, 2017
[quctire
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by ElsonMorali: 11:30pm On Mar 25, 2017
petra1:


It's not damage control .There is no damage to control. Afflictions are part of the work of cross . But we can't deny that it's deliberate message . I see it as sticking out the tongue doing toii to the devil .


If there's nothing to be guilty of then they don't need to force themselves to be doing love in Tokyo.

Look at the pictures yourself and tell yourself the truth, does he look happy to you?

The guy is as guilty as sin and only someone who isn't brainwashed will see that for what it is.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by ElsonMorali: 11:33pm On Mar 25, 2017
Mboi2:

Blind eyes that didn't see the nonsense by that prostitute, you will remain blind as Suleiman enjoys

You mean as Suleiman enjoys your money?
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by arewaboy01(m): 11:34pm On Mar 25, 2017
see as d wife dy dress y apostle no go dy play away match ?
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by Nobody: 1:29am On Mar 26, 2017
Lol fake love...that time when you get caught and trying to form good kid grin
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by hardballripplez: 3:08am On Mar 26, 2017
weedtheweeds:
Is good to drag you out of the sheeplike coat Muslims use as a camouflage. This is coming from a member of the so-called religion of peace? LOL hypocrites!! Blood-thirsty god? How did you think Islam spread? You were forced to accept it, but you don't know. There is nothing to keep private. You can spill the T. I am a Christian and Christianity doesn't encourage killing. Do you understand that?
. If you say Christianity doesn't encourage killings . Does it mean that you don't follow the bible. Although there was nothing like bible during the time of Jesus. Just as there was no Christianity..the bible emphatically say that you must kill..God has asked for blood. Why don't you take some moment to peruse the bible verses that I quoted? And defend each of these verses that calls to killings of infants and the rape of innocent women. Just them out coz your pastor is only after you tithe and he's less interested in telling you that the bible is a book of violence coz that might make you abandon Christianity and hence , he losses his tithe money

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by opribo(m): 3:12am On Mar 26, 2017
It is normal.
Many thanks to this great woman for bailing him out otherwise he would have been a goner.

I am certain in his life again he will never play rough gain near any girl not his wife talkless of olosho of all people.
Meanwhile Daniella okeke must return the car and the house to the church its their money.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by hardballripplez: 3:12am On Mar 26, 2017
Olu317:
Crusade were sanctioned by men who killed the messengers of JESUS CHRIST. And on the long run , the almighty God scattered their tongues and they fought against one another until peace reign in Christianity. Despite Israelites being chosen God's Heritage from Biblical perspective , the wars the Israelites fought against some other nations were never fought for God . But when a prophet, leader or king of Israel give order based on instruction from the revered prophet of God. In some instances when the children of Israel faulted by taking the belonging of these subdued kingdoms if God had instructed them not to do so, they got punished for it. Bible didn't sanctioned it in that manner as you feel.

This is hypocrisy. I quoted bible verses where God instructed his messengers to kill women and infants. The example of the amalikites. God asked that a whole generation should be wiped out by his choosen people as you people claimed . It is also recorded in mathew that Jesus asked his disciples to bring his enemies who do not want him to reign over them and shed their blood while he looks. Jesus was also quoted in the bible to have said that he has not come to bring peace into the world . But he was sent to create enmity, chaos and war by making a father and his son enemies. Take a moment to read the bible verses that I have listed and I hope you start by killing those closest to you first.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by hardballripplez: 3:18am On Mar 26, 2017
CHARLOE:

You're right, very little difference BTW d xtians & Muslims historically.
Just that xtianity rebranded along d line wit d new testament while ther Islamic counterpart did not, sticking to d old testament/quoran. That's y ththey are still violent to this day
But even when we look at it. Christianity still kills. Take for example the US. The US is a Christian country founded on judeo-christian values. This country has killed millions of innocent people . Another example is the infamous Rwandan genocide that happened some years ago. There was an army called the army of Christ that was used to wipe out more than 70percent of the entire Hutu population. Check it out. 70 percent of an entire population in this modern world? No religion has ever killed such huge number, not in this century. But why did the press downplay this issue? Beacaue the army was acting according to the bible as they said, and they were not shy to admit that they were fighting as instructed by Christ.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by buffalowings: 3:20am On Mar 26, 2017
hardballripplez:

But even when we look at it. Christianity still kills. Take for example the US. The US is a Christian country founded on judeo-christian values. This country has killed millions of innocent people . Another example is the infamous Rwandan genocide that happened some years ago. There was an army called the army of Christ that was used to wipe out more than 70percent of the entire Hutu population. Check it out. 70 percent of an entire population in this modern world? No religion has ever killed such huge number, not in this century. But why did the press downplay this issue? Beacaue the army was acting according to the bible as they said, and they were not shy to admit that they were fighting as instructed by Christ.

the conflict was strictly an ethnic strife
nothing religious about it

1 Like

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by buffalowings: 3:24am On Mar 26, 2017
hardballripplez:


This is hypocrisy. I quoted bible verses where God instructed his messengers to kill women and infants. The example of the amalikites. God asked that a whole generation should be wiped out by his choosen people as you people claimed . It is also recorded in mathew that Jesus asked his disciples to bring his enemies who do not want him to reign over them and shed their blood while he looks. Jesus was also quoted in the bible to have said that he has not come to bring peace into the world . But he was sent to create enmity, chaos and war by making a father and his son enemies. Take a moment to read the bible verses that I have listed and I hope you start by killing those closest to you first.

you're so filled with hate
like you know already what you want to believe

I'm a non practising Christian
maybe you can do yourself a favour by reading a bible where all the spoken word by jesus are in red

Christianity has gone through reformation
and most live their lives lives according to the new testament

that can not be said of islam
if I draw a cartoon of your cave dwelling mohammed here
I bet you would issue a fatwa

so prone to violence

3 Likes

Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by buffalowings: 3:34am On Mar 26, 2017
FILEBE:


This verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

“Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]


1. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.


2. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.


3. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriks wherever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.


4. Critics jump from verse 5 to verse 7

Arun Shourie is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatawas’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realize that he has skipped verse 6.


5. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6]

The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?


This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

I love how you guys are so fixated on America
America is A Secular country

anyway, you guys ought to be orgasming over Saudi Arabia.
The country of the place of birth of Mohammed is a Great Ally of US who you supposedly refer to as the Satan

isn't that weird?
You take religion so seriously that you can't even think.
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by buffalowings: 3:36am On Mar 26, 2017
FILEBE:


This verse from Surah Taubah is very often quoted by critics of Islam, to show that Islam promotes violence, bloodshed and brutality:

“Kill the mushriqeen (pagans, polytheists, kuffar) where ever you find them.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]


1. Context of verse is during battlefield

Critics of Islam actually quote this verse out of context. In order to understand the context, we need to read from verse 1 of this surah. It says that there was a peace treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (pagans) of Makkah. This treaty was violated by the Mushriks of Makkah. A period of four months was given to the Mushriks of Makkah to make amends. Otherwise war would be declared against them. Verse 5 of Surah Taubah says:

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Al-Qur’an 9:5]

This verse is quoted during a battle.


2. Example of war between America and Vietnam

We know that America was once at war with Vietnam. Suppose the President of America or the General of the American Army told the American soldiers during the war: “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them”. Today if I say that the American President said, “Wherever you find the Vietnamese, kill them” without giving the context, I will make him sound like a butcher. But if I quote him in context, that he said it during a war, it will sound very logical, as he was trying to boost the morale of the American soldiers during the war.


3. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle

Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriks wherever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.


4. Critics jump from verse 5 to verse 7

Arun Shourie is one of the staunchest critics of Islam in India. He quotes the same verse, Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 in his book ‘The World of Fatawas’, on page 572. After quoting verse 5 he jumps to verse 7 of Surah Taubah. Any sensible person will realize that he has skipped verse 6.


5. Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer

Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 6 gives the answer to the allegation that Islam promotes violence, brutality and bloodshed. It says:

“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge.” [Al-Qur’an 9:6]

The Qur’an not only says that a Mushrik seeking asylum during the battle should be granted refuge, but also that he should be escorted to a secure place. In the present international scenario, even a kind, peace-loving army General, during a battle, may let the enemy soldiers go free, if they want peace. But which army General will ever tell his soldiers, that if the enemy soldiers want peace during a battle, don’t just let them go free, but also escort them to a place of security?


This is exactly what Allah (swt) says in the Glorious Qur’an to promote peace in the world.

I love how you guys are so fixated on America
America is A Secular country

anyway, you guys ought to be orgasming over Saudi Arabia.
The country of the place of birth of Mohammed is a Great Ally of US who you supposedly refer to as the Satan

isn't that weird?
Re: Apostle Suleman & Wife, Lizzy Loved Up Like Never Before In New Photos by hardballripplez: 3:36am On Mar 26, 2017
buffalowings:


you're so filled with hate
like you know already what you want to believe

I'm a non practising Christian
maybe you can do yourself a favour by reading a bible where all the spoken word by jesus are in red

Christianity has gone through reformation
and most live their lives lives according to the new testament

that can not be said of islam
..

Who sanctioned the reformations ? It wasn't God hope you know. The words of God are eternal, that is why over 1400 years the Quran remains unchanged. How do you know what waw spoken by Jesus? There is no record anywhere that he asked anyone or that anyone wrote down his teachings . You and I know the truth that it is easy for Jesus to deny you on the day of judgement as the Quran said . This is because 1. Jesus didn't bring Christianity, Paul was the founder of Christianity. 2. Jesus never asked anyone to read any book called bible nor did He approve that you follow it. Christianity is manmade .that is why there are so many versions of the bible today. Anyone can wake up one day and just add or remove from Christianity under the guise of reformation. Reformation my foot. Who said those words about killings in the bible ? Wasn't it Jesus and God ? Didn't Jesus say he didn't bring peace into the world ? Didn't Jesus ask his disciples in mathew to bring all his enemies and kill them in his presence? So who's fooling Who? Paul who never met Jesus. Paul who came many many years after Jesus was long gone brought a new religion in the name of Christ and without even asking a single question You guys in your billions follow him.? You don't even care that he's leading you to he'll? It's pathetic. Paul tells you to have faith that he'll lead you to heaven . Don't you reason that if Jesus wanted a religion he would have founded it. God would have revealed to him that there will be a bible and he would have mentioned paul as the founder of Christianit that you guys have to follow

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) (Reply)

Suleman To El-Rufai: “You Are Dead Already, Ask For Date Of Your Burial" (video) / Nairaland Christian Singles Thread (no Holds Barred) / Pastor E.A Adeboye's Prophecy For 2019 And His Use Of Bible References

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 116
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.