weedtheweeds:
Are you excluding those quoted verses in the Quran? I've lived with core Muslims in Saudi Arabia for 2 years while I worked there back in the early 2000's. I am not just a hearsay. I have seen the secrets of Islam. The hate for Israel and the western world. Have you ever wondered why you are not called Arabs? have you seen how women dress in Saudi Arabia and the middle east? Have you gone through the record to find out why the western world is the target of terrorists? Have you ever wondered why the Muslim leaders are undisturbed about the killing of Christians? Have you ever wondered who could be the sponsors of the Boko Haram? Listen, wolves play among sheep and act very insidious, only wise sheep will tell by their moves.
I am not the type you convince with petty reasoning, I have had a sit down with your Imams and many Muslims. The truth is that you are not even considered a good Muslim before these people. Why do you think Muslims want to carve out their own communities wherever they go? In France, they live in clustered communities/colonies. The British government is also fighting to disintegrate their communities.
I am sure you read the news, Muslims have tarnished their names and they are only acting on the instructions of the Moh'm. In Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi etc, Christians are slaughtered like earthworms. The only time a black Muslim realizes that you are his brother is when he has faced racial profiling from other races even in the Islamic communities. My dear, look for God before it is too late

hardballripplez:
Please bring forth your evidences that Muhammad married an underage and that the Quran was copied from the bible . Dude this is not a church where you say whatever and no one asks for evidence . Only church people are gullible. The pastor could give you poison to drink and tell you it's ok if you die that he's trying to perform a miracle. First understand that this is not a church.
The Quran describes God as eternal, He doesn't sleep, He can't be killed. According to the bible, Christians believe that God rests, that he could be killed and he died( he has an end). Muslims believe God created us into different nations with different skin colors. Christians believe God decided to change our languages when he was threatened by his creatures who decided to build a tower up to him. The bible God never knew that people would someday be able to fly into space . Is it even rational to say that God changed our language when he was threatened by a tower ?when in fact people are now travelling to space without seeing God? The Quran says someday people will.be able to travel to space . The Quran does not contain a single error. The bible countains countless mistakes , pornography, incest and other things. So tell me how did the Quran copy from the biblem. From the few things that I listed, these books are totally different. Totally. Bible was made up by Paul, Quran was given to the prophet Muhammad. Allah in the Quran gave us Islam. Paul gave you Christianity. So again, tell me. How are they related?

And talking about why they don't call me an arab. Why should I be called am Arab? I don't want to be called an Arab. Allah said in the Quran that he created us into different nations with different skin colors. And he's not going to judge anyone based on skin color. Who decides who's a Muslim?. You said some people don't consider me a good Muslim . Dude this is not Christianity whereby your pastors falsely ascrib divinity and power to themselves. Don't be deluded whenever they say they can give you heaven or hell . They only want to fleece you of your money. If I make mistakes as a Muslim I ask Allah for forgiveness. He forgives without sending anyone to die coz he has the power to forgive .he's not helpless. Dude, in Islam there is no CAN that decides who a good Muslim is. We know a good Muslim when we see one. A good Muslim believes and follows the teachings of the prophet Muhammad. And talking about the Saudi king . Lol. Dude, in Islam we don't base our faith on the king like the Catholics do with their popes. This king is just a politician, he didntdidn't assume office under any islamic justification. He's a monarch and in Islam that's not how we select our leaders. Who cares if the king befriends Trump? That's his own business and on the day of judgement he should be ready to defend himself. Palestine is stolen by the army of the Jews. You talk about boko haram. Dude all known Islamic scholars have condemned boko haram. If not for you guys there won't be any boko haram nor isis. You guys created them . It's all over the news that the Christian nation of US. Created these groups. You guys on daily basis bomb innocent Muslims in the middle East and elsewhere. You guys created the fertile land for boko haram to thrive . And talking about knowing the secrets of Islam.. This is not Christianity whereby there are secrets. There are no secrets in Islam. You don't even speak arabic and you say you know anything about Islam. What imams did you sit with? And leaving in Saudi doesn't mean anything . Saudi is a country . So what's the big deal if you live there . And in fact you didn't go to makkah where the kaaba is nor did you visit medina.these places are for Muslims. And to put it to you. Right now I live in Qatar and I was in Saudi last month. So what's the big deal about living in Saudi. Qatar like Saudi has many experts from many of the western countries. So what's the big deal in living there. Can you please share the so-called secrets of Islam.? Coz this is nonsense as there is nothing of such. I am on Facebook and in sha Allah I will be visiting Nigeria soon. If I know what church you attend I will be willing to visit with some of the brothers in order to engage your pastors.in sha Allah the truth will be bare. Please let me know when you be available. Anytime from june- August works for me as I'll be home by then in sha Allah. We will make arrangements on how to visit your church.

I hope you will find time to read the Quran and may Allah guide you to his light..

I have read the bible countless times. In the southwest we are always forced to study Christianity in primary and secondary schools. May Allah forgive our ignorance. So let me know where the church is so we can arrange for a debate in sha Allah.

hardballripplez:

And bro, The black Americans won't want to live here. We have not done enough to encourage anyone to come back home. They read about all what we do in the newspapers. African leaders are not encouraging at all.

hardballripplez:


THEY KILLED OVER 70 PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE hUTU POPULATION AND YOU CALL THIS A CHILD'S PLAY? be realistic dude. They killed for christ .

hardballripplez:
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It is so pathetic if this is what the sunday school taught you. there is no iota of truth in all the gibberish you wrote up here. so let me enlighten you so that you can enlighten your sunday school teacher who is indoctrinating you with all these fake and made up history. I presume he knows you are the kind of person who finds it difficult to verify information, hence, the ease to fill your head with shit and bullcrap about Islam.
first of all, Islam teaches us to say good about the messenger of God Isa(Jesus). may peace be upon him.
as a rebuttal: Jesus is coming back. why? he did not complete his task. when he comes he will descend in Syria. he will destroy the cross, and absolve himself of the lies the Christians told him. he will come back as a follower of the messenger Muhammad. SO WHO IS GREATER? THE FOLLOWER? if you say the follower is greater then this is laughable. Jesus will pray behind an Imam and He will pray with Muslims. He won't be somewhere dancing and singing like someone who is high on weed or some kind of substance. This is very clear and if you worship Jesus because he is coming back, then you could worship the devil who also will not die till the end of time. I hope this is clear to you now.
The Quran mentions Jesus more than the pROPHET Muhammad. the Quran was never written by angel Jibril as you claimed. it is the word of Allah sent through angel Jibril. The Quran mentions Musa more than any other. more than He mentions the Prophet Muhammad and Jesus. the Quran is the word of Allah. how does name mentioning means you have to worship jesus? Read what the Quran said about Jesus first, must you always take what the Sunday school teacher said without necessarily verifying if it's the truth?. Now that you know that the Quran mentions Moses more than Jesus, are you going to start worshipping Moses as I presume? This shows that you are gullible. I don't see any sense in name mentioning. Allah mentions Jesus with his mother, Maryam. tHERE IS a connection here to explain to people like you that Jesus is the son of Mary and he's and never was the son of God. Jesus is mentioned in relation to his mother, not as a sign of superiority. He is not superior, beacsue when he comes back to earth, he will be a follower of prophet muhammad, He will follow the injunctions as laid down by our Prophet. I hope this answers your question about why he was mentioned 25 times.
you claim Islam was forcefully spread? Provide evidences dude.
The bible you follow is an innovation ascribed to Jesus. Paul is the founder and owner of christianity, not christ. 90 percent of what is written in that book was not taught by Jesus.
This book you say you follow is infamously referred to as the book of pornography. This is not only due to the cheesy pickup lines you could see written in it, but also many of the songs you guys ascribed to Solomon wherein pornography, incest, adultery are celebrated.
Jesus calls for blood and killings in Matthew. How do you defend this statement? Jesus didn't ask you to follow him, never did he say so. He was a Jew sent solely to the Jews, and what business do you have with that? and likewise HE was sent for a specific period and to a specific group of people.
The Old testament and many verses of the new testament are filled with verses of violence and pornography. The reason why you won't find as many calls to killings in the new testament as it is in the old one is because Paul figured out that the sensible way he could promote his brand new religion was to allude to some sort of peace. He knew that would attract people like you. People who don't really care about the truth. Paul promised that if you believe in his book(bible) , in his religion(christianity) and if you believe that your gOD WAS KILLED AND CRUCIFIED BY MERE MORTALS(WHEREAS GOD IS ETERNAL AND NEVER DIES) THAT HE WOULD LEAD YOU TO HEAVEN. DUDE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. PAUL'S RELIGION WILL ONLY LEAD YOU TO HELL. AS A You ARE A FOLLOWER OF PAUL, I WOULD URGE YOU TO DROP SENTIMENTS AND SINCERELY SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. BRITAIN, AMERICA, GERMANY AND OTHER COUNTRIES THAT IMPORTED PAUL'S RELIGION TO YOU AND YOU ILK HAVE STARTED TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH. A RECENT PUBLICATION BY BBC NEWS ADJUDGED Islam as the fastest growing religion, and by 2050, Islam will be at the verge of dominating Europe. eUROPE AND tHE aMERICAS WILL BE MUSLIM MAJORITY VERY SOON, EVEN WITH ALL YOUR PROPAGANDA, MILLIONS ARE COMING TO ISLAM YEARLY.
Allah says in the Quran: It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

and lastly, I urge you not to kill your family members nor your neighbours. Because Paul and other unknown authors of the bible asked you to do so, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.

FILEBE:


I don't know where you have lived but I know what I have known. Islam has its fair share of people trying to stain it with "fanatism". so does Christianity. if you seek for peace... you shall find. If you seek for hatred... you shall find. The question now is
What are you seeking for? what did you sought for?

all the verses mentioned above was qouted out of context. You don't just single out a verse without knowing how it started and how it ended.

The truth is that seekers of peace will always seek peace and the seekers of hatred will seek hatred. But truth doesn't change.



what did you seek and what are you seeking?

hardballripplez:

Dude I follow Jesus. As Muslims, we believe in His miraculous birth, in the miracles that God did through him. But Jesus was just an ordinary man. nothing special about him. Muslims are the real followers of JESUS,WE FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS. Dude, May God guide you to the truth if you truly you seek it. JeSUS DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH CHRISTIANITY nor the bible and I hope you know that? Christianity is the religion of Paul, and the Bible is the book invented by Paul for his religion.
I will be glad to send you a copy of the Quran if you willing to read it. and secondly if you don't mind, if I could know your church I will be glad to bring some brothers to have a discussion about Islam and CHRISTIANITY WITH SOME OF YOUR PASTORS. Kindly let me know if you will be interested. There is no need to be shy, the truth will be laid bare when we visit in sha aLLAH

Allah says in the Quran: It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

Olu317:
Do you even know the meaning of Christians? If you seek the truth about Jesus Christ,then you will see the power of his resurrection. The POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION is the difference between him and Moses and all other acclaimed Prophets. Do you not know Moses was close to God?, And Still Moses parted the sea, was given the commandments, was the one who introduced God"s name as “I AM", was the one that made God to give food to the children of Israel from heaven etc. Despite all these, Moses blundered with anger and he did not enter Canaan land. Do you know Moses dead body was not buried but taken by God? . How can you now call JESUS CHRIST ordinary man? A man who called John the Baptist as Elijah who didn't die but was taken in a chariot of fire to heaven as the least in the kingdom of God, is that an ordinary man ? Who has seen how heaven looks like apart from Jesus account? A man who was tempted by the devil three times and the devil ran away, is that an ordinary man ? who has seen God before except Jesus Christ? Who was the one who gave the description of God except Jesus Christ? Even the angels don't have the description of God, Yet you call Jesus Christ ordinary. A man who say it and it came to pass, a man who woke four days straight dead man, a man who made himself equal to God, a man who opened 38 years old born blind, a man who told a centurion that his faith has healed the centurion child without seeing the child and so it was, a man who charged his disciples and his followers with a perfect commandments of loving God absolutely and the second commandment as loving your neighbor as oneself. How dare you call that ordinary? God and learn about Jesus through his personal contact. And you will marvel at the rate in which he explain to you things beyond your imagination. Get acquainted with Jesus and be free from your doubtful thoughts about MASTER JESUS....

weedtheweeds:
Thank God you exposed your hypocrisy here. All you want is to dominate the world. In the places you have dominated, what has been happened. Taking islam to Europe and America means totally exposing it. The only reason why there are Muslims in the world today is because of the killing and threats imposed on muslims. Many muslims in some countries are loosening up. You believe the majority is what makes a religion? fastest growing cos you use no condoms. I noticed how you began Europe and America with small letters. It is going to be a very big vision but unrealisable for you and a disastrous one for that matter. None of the Islamic states are working. None! If not for the Americans and British, the islamic states would have been depleted a long time. Your stronghold is Saudi Arabia which is under the control of the Americans and British. Iraq has been turned upside down. muslims are heavily profiled all over the world, many islamic strongholds have been disintegrated. Bin Laden caught and killed in an islamic country by an infidel, Saddam Hussein hanged, Ghadaffi killed disgracefully, Yous are profiled everywhere in the world. Donald Trump is on teh hunt for yous. Why do you think he won the election? to hound yous. the British are waking up now. very soon, just as you were tamed by the 18th and early 19th century by the french and British, another colonization is coming. Your saving grace is that the spanish didn't meet you first. yous are hypocrites washing the outer parts of the skin and feeling stink inside

hardballripplez:

Ofcourse God gave a clear description of Himself.
He says: Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, The Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him Nor Sleep. His are all things In the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede In His presence except As he permitteth? He knoweth What (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they compass Aught of his knowledge Except as He willeth. His throne doth extend Over the heavens And on earth, and He feeleth No fatigue in guarding And preserving them, For He is the Most High. The Supreme (in glory)."

in another verse he says:
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
And there is none like unto Him.
Lol. Paul who never ever in his life met Jesus wrote all these about Jesus because he knows people like you would believe. No wonder your pastors keep deceiving you in the name of fake miracles. if you are truthful , and I am sure u have some holy ghost. why not schedule a debate with us. what is the name of the Church? I'll come with some of our brothers in sha Allah. we will expose the lies of Paul. Jesus never taught all these. Jesus never asked to be worshipped. Jesus as a messenger of God would never equate himself with God. never will he do such. He performed miracles not by his own might. Jesus does not know what is hidden. Jesus has no power. All Power and might belongs solely to God. Dude, why worship a man born of a woman like you? Does being Christian mean one shouldn't be able to use his thinking faculty again?

Allah says about Jesus: Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was

I hope you embrace the religion of truth. thousands of former pastors and powerful men in Christianity have left the religion of paul, many are still leaving right now. it's all over the news. Paul asked you to have faith without thinking or verifying info. I sincerely hope it won't be too late for you to accept the truth. But Only Allah guides to his religion.
Allah says: We have certainly sent down distinct verses. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path.

Olu317:
Death is inevitable. I am really perturbed at the pattern in which you read because there were comparison between I drew the child's play descriptive term. Assuming, it was 6000,000, Jews that were slaughtered and 800,000 hutus. Do the ratio. You will understand who had lost more. Having opined this, doesn't mean, killing is good at any reason. However, you seem to like propaganda because I wonder where you got your inf from. I am well conversant with Hutu and Tutsi war. I am very very conversant with it. I read the news when it was happening, the movies to the effects and the United Nations's envoy who was a military personnel who even shed tears when he told the story of the mass gruesome murder of children and women . They even went to church to bring out people to be killed. How come you want to twist the story? what killing for Christ? How many war did Jesus Christ fight? How many human beings did Jesus Christ killed with sword ? Go and learn frère

weedtheweeds:
As a man of evidence, is there an evidence that the Quran was given by god?

Olu317:
What you just referred were similar to OLD TESTAMENT. HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE DESCRIPTION OF ALMIGHTY GOD IN YORUBA HISTORICAL RECORD VIA ODU? YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON THINGS AND DESCRIPTION OF GOD DOESN'T GO OUTSIDE AL QUARAN YET, THE ACCOUNT OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD STATED HE MET LEADERS OF CHRISTIAN FAITH. PAUL WAS A SLAYER OF CHRIST FOLLOWERS BECAUSE THEY CALL THEM PERVERSE AND LIARS. DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW PEOPLE HAD KNOWLEDGE OF CHRIST? THE JEWS WHO PRACTICE JUDAISM WHO REFUSED TO FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST KNEW ALL THE STORY, SO PAUL'S ACCOUNT IS ONLY PART OF IT. IS PAUL THE ONE WHO WROTE MATHEW etc ? Do you even know how many chapters Paul got account and compile? The Old Testament was given to Moses, was Moses there in the beginning? Of course not, so, shake away from this glaring truth that can't be quenched. It is too real to doubted. Despite the destruction of King Solomon temple, he built for God, it still exist, doesn't it? Have you not seen it? So, true is Jesus Christ more than the earthly Temple. Jesus Christ will live in your heart if you allow and he will guide you to all things..... So, awesome to behold...

hardballripplez:

How many wars did Jesus fight in? The bible wasn't compiled during the time of Jesus. the bible was made up later on. so we can't be sure about the stories of Jesus as portrayed in it. from what we see from the bible, it calls to violence and immorality.
It is funny when you say you are conversant with the Rwandan genocide. You read and listen only to what reinforces your already held beliefs. There was a massacre orchestrated by the army of christ. They were fighting for christ. I am not the one twisting history here. people who survived this massacre gave accounts of what happened. go back and read more history. The comparison you made doesn't fit. You are talking about the number of jews killed, ofcourse I never said I approved of what Hitler did. My point was that the Christian army nearly wiped out the entire Hutu population. Over 70 percent. This is not made up, check wikipedia.

Olu317:
Army of Christ indeed! Google and show a convicted or any one who said the fight was for Jesus Christ. Despite the fact that he came in less than 2500 AD, when so many people had been practicing different religion and all manner of fake gods yet this Jesus Christ is the most read about in the history of mankind. Even in China, they persecute Christians yet many still held on to their Jesus. What about Arab countries/Mid East , where they won't allow Christianity to thrive, what happened when ISIS came? Kurdistan Christians with the help of American Christian government helped subdued ISIS this far and other organizations who sees the rest as Kafir. Embrace the truth my dear. The man God Jesus Christ is the greatest gift of all times. Jesus Christ doesn't force or compel you to love him because it is a matter of choice. The ball is place in your court, do justice to the direction you desire it.

Olu317:
Army of Christ indeed! Google and show a convicted or any one who said the fight was for Jesus Christ. Despite the fact that he came in less than 2500 AD, when so many people had been practicing different religion and all manner of fake gods yet this Jesus Christ is the most read about in the history of mankind. Even in China, they persecute Christians yet many still held on to their Jesus. What about Arab countries/Mid East , where they won't allow Christianity to thrive, what happened when ISIS came? Kurdistan Christians with the help of American Christian government helped subdued ISIS this far and other organizations who sees the rest as Kafir. Embrace the truth my dear. The man God Jesus Christ is the greatest gift of all times. Jesus Christ doesn't force or compel you to love him because it is a matter of choice. The ball is place in your court, do justice to the direction you desire it.

hardballripplez:


Who wrote Exodus? of course not Moses. why does the catholic bible have 7 extra books than what u have? Did you read about the account Paul gave when he said Jesus called him ? the accounts varied. same incident reported without any consistency. why do some bible verse have more chapters than the others? The holy ghost can't tell the Catholics to remove the 7 extra books? Our description of Allah does not go beyond what we are told. This is because no eyes have seen him. describing him in ways other than what he has described himself does not befit him, even if those attributes seem good to us. wise up. There are countless unknown writers of the bible. many bible verses without anyone knowing who the authors are. don't base your faith on a made up religion. Remember the day you will be lowered into the grave, it will be you alone, no one will follow you into the grave. yu will be questioned alone. I hope you will have a rethink. and I am open for debates at your church if you will invite me. will be with your pastor.

hardballripplez:


It is all over the news that the US helped create Isiss. It all started in Afghanistan when the Americans fought soviet Russia by proxy. I will upload the screenshot and you'll see how many people died in that Genocide. you will be able to read where it is written, 'The army of christ"

Olu317:
It is obvious you live in Naija....

Olu317:
It is obvious you live in Naija....

hardballripplez:

How ? Currently i am not. You could add me on instagram

weedtheweeds:
are you one of the herdmen or the extremists?

Olu317:
You don't need to prove anything about your location . All about whining... However, the Hutu and Tutsi war were all for POLITICAL CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT and has nothing to do with JESUS CHRIST. ANYONE CAN USE THE NAME OF GOD OR CHRIST NAME TO COMMIT CRIME,STILL DOESN'T MAKE THEM DOING THE WILL OF GOD. I hope you get the thrift.

Olu317:
You seems to like history but you have little knowledge of it. Variation is certainly true when it comes to transfer of oral history. This is borne out of pride or lost in due long period of time due to unwritten record. Even you as a person, if someone narrate a story to you,the manner of your interpretation will be different from the narrator. So, live with it.... The power of resurrection of JESUS CHRIST IS WHAT MATTER AND HIS DOCTRINE OF LOVING GOD AND LOVING MANKIND AS ONESELF. IF YOU ARE NOT FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF NIGERIA, COUNT YOURSELF LUCKY BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THOSE WHO ARE RELATED TO THE ISLAMIC SCRIBES THAT HAVE BOTH WESTERN AND ARABIC/QURANIC KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS ALSO THE SAME IN THE ARAB WORLD. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN? IT IS BECAUSE TO MAINTAIN SUPERIORITY OVER NON KINGLY OR NOBLE FAMILIES FROM GETTING CLOSE TO SEEING THE TRUTH. THE REALITY IS THAT CHOICE IS WHAT GOD WANT AND NOT ROBOTIC FOLLOWERS WHO WILL LOVE HIM WITH THEIR LIPS BUT DO OTHER THINGS IN THEIR HEARTS AGAINST OTHER HUMAN BEINGS

hardballripplez:

Variation?
What do you call this : when he said the people with him heard the voice of Jesus and sae the light .But in another place , he said no one heard the voice except him . Is this a kind if variation ? How cone jesus never taljed about him. Ofcourse it's easy for Jesus to say. Ok Paul will come and will establish Christianity. Why not anything about him . ?

Olu317:
I am very sure you know that even if you narrate a story five minutes or less ago. On your second account of the same narration of the same story will never be 100% accurate. So, stop all these unnecessary stress on things even you can do.
Alfas,Imams,Sheiks,Pastors,Reverends,Priests,Prophets etc will quote the Quran or the Bible and explain it accordingly. Even after explanation non of these clergy men can repeat whatever he had said, word for word. This is the bitter truth. Lastly, Jesus Christ didn't reveal himself to the entire country when he came but to his messengers and during his teachings as well as miraculous period he engaged himself in doing. If Jesus Christ had called his disciples and told them, he was the Hidden God of Abraham, who among them would have believed? Non. If Adam that God visit in his glory didn't obey God, how will be possible for the descendants of Adam lineage believe? Jesus Christ is not magician because he knows the heart of every individual and will always gradually reveal himself so that such individual's heart will be fearless and believe in HIM. There are so many things you will not understand about the Bible and specifically Jesus Christ and the New Testament if you read it as normal book or account of the LEVANT .Lastly, Paul existed for a purpose and he fulfilled his purpose without using the SWORD but the WORD of JESUS CHRIST. Irrespective of your criticism, the Holy Bible remain as the TORMENTOR to the HATERS and UNBELIEVERS because of the question of WHO OWNS THE WHOLE PLANETS? And in the Bible you will find the ETERNAL TRUTH TO REAL SALVATION.

hardballripplez:

What you fail to realise is that we are not talking about just any book here. Ofcourse as humans we err and forget, and make mistakes when we give accounts. We are talking about the book of God. Not a book sanctioned by a mere mortal . And come to think of it, there are variations to who gave Jesus up. Some account said it was judas and other accounts say no it wasn't him. If I may ask you, will you term this mere variations?
Likewise there are different accounts as to when Jesus was actually crucified. Let's take one moment to be objective . If I asked you why the Catholic bible has extra 7 books and why the protestant bibles don't believe in those books. What answer would you give me? Would it be that the Catholics have another different God who gave them totally different books? It is very much different in Islam that we follow the same book, it doesn't have variations and likewise, there is nothing like different accounts for the same story.

Olu317:
The man who gave Jesus Christ up was Judas. If like the truth, believe it and if you seek something else,you will find lies behind it. Whatever people claim from any quarter, I don't see it as having effect on the relationship between Jesus and his followers at heart and not people who believe in killing the weak and the oppressed. The mention of seven book of Moses, isn't new because it involves the old way of connecting to God. With all form of sacrifices involved. Nevertheless, it still doesn't change anything. If you seek power, you can get one. But mind you, the book is dangerous because it is either the person use it to kill himself or herself or someone else while such person will be tormented spiritually. Unclean hands and heart that use that book end up being destroyed by the power in the Book. I don't like truly like people taking my advice because such won't know the value of the advice. So, if anyone truly want to get the book. Let him or her go get it. Period

Olu317:
The man who gave Jesus Christ up was Judas. If like the truth, believe it and if you seek something else,you will find lies behind it. Whatever people claim from any quarter, I don't see it as having effect on the relationship between Jesus and his followers at heart and not people who believe in killing the weak and the oppressed. The mention of seven book of Moses, isn't new because it involves the old way of connecting to God. With all form of sacrifices involved. Nevertheless, it still doesn't change anything. If you seek power, you can get one. But mind you, the book is dangerous because it is either the person use it to kill himself or herself or someone else while such person will be tormented spiritually. Unclean hands and heart that use that book end up being destroyed by the power in the Book. I don't like truly like people taking my advice because such won't know the value of the advice. So, if anyone truly want to get the book. Let him or her go get it. Period

Olu317:
The man who gave Jesus Christ up was Judas. If like the truth, believe it and if you seek something else,you will find lies behind it. Whatever people claim from any quarter, I don't see it as having effect on the relationship between Jesus and his followers at heart and not people who believe in killing the weak and the oppressed. The mention of seven book of Moses, isn't new because it involves the old way of connecting to God. With all form of sacrifices involved. Nevertheless, it still doesn't change anything. If you seek power, you can get one. But mind you, the book is dangerous because it is either the person use it to kill himself or herself or someone else while such person will be tormented spiritually. Unclean hands and heart that use that book end up being destroyed by the power in the Book. I don't like truly like people taking my advice because such won't know the value of the advice. So, if anyone truly want to get the book. Let him or her go get it. Period