patrickmuf:
Well, same Pep ditched Dino, Deco and later on Eto, it had more to do with his ideology and their professional conduct than purely footballing terms...

patrickmuf:
Lukaku was awful when presented with an opportunity, you should know better, KDB had better players ahead of him...QED

raumdeuter:


It was purely footballing that made Pep choose Busquets and Pique over more established guys. He saw the talent in them, Now after Pep has left Barca for 6yrs these guys still start

raumdeuter:


Which opportunity was presented by Mourinho to Lukaku

Lukaku played a total of 122mins under Mourinho before he was shipped out

patrickmuf:
They proved good enough after his call unlike Cuenca, JDS, Jeffren Suarez etc

patrickmuf:
For the whole of 122 minutes, he was out of depth...

raumdeuter:

Meaning they got there on merit

raumdeuter:


Is 120mins mainly as a sub enough to judge a player
For how many mins was Mikitaryan out of depth this season

patrickmuf:
Talk about Dino, Eto and Deco, will you?

patrickmuf:
His reputation at Dortmund meant he had to be given ample time to prove his worth.

patrickmuf:
For the whole of 122 minutes, he was out of depth...

Nihilist:


It was actually 155 minutes spread out over 8 league apps. That's less than 20 minutes a game.

Most strikers need around 120 minutes of continuous gametime to score a goal. You play some one for 155 minutes across an entire season and you sat he looks out of depth?

You no sabi ball.

patrickmuf:
It didn't take 20min for me to know Ronaldo was special when Man Utd played that friendly match with Sporting, your touch, control in tight space etc is enough for me...As per whether I sabi ball or not, it's your headache

Nihilist:


Firstly, if you think I believe you watched that match, you're on a long thing.

Secondly, Lukaku was top scorer in Belgium at the age of 16. His transfer fee of 17 million for a 16 year old already tells me that Chelsea knew he was special.

You clearly no sabi ball with the way you've been shouting touch blah blah. The people who really sabi ball at your own club are sounding out a Lukaku transfer, while youre hearing swallowing the Mourunho garbage hook line and sinker.

patrickmuf:
You are looking for who to insult abi? I no get power for back and forth argument, you win...

Nihilist:


Where did I insult you?

Nihilist:


Where did I insult you?

If you have any facts then feel free to drop them. The problem is that you don't have any, just misinformed opinions. If I do a Lukaku stats dump here you go run.

You think it's beans that the boy has outscored every single striker that Chealsea signed after buying Lukaku. Or maybe you think it's easy to score over 100 career goals before turning 23.

LordEmperoris1:
How many has thirty martial has scored sef?

afrodoc2:
The problem is that people many times try to defend the indefensible under the guise of club loyalty.

JM does not give youth a chance . That is a fact and there is no need for his loyalists like patrickmuf to start a debate they will surely lose.

If JM was Arsenal manager he would have shipped Thierry Henry out after he failed to score in his first EIGHT games for Arsenal.
How on God's earth you expect a young talented striker like Lukaku to show all he has got with 5 minute cameos is beyond me. Then you add KdB e.t.c

Dayo has mouth in this one cos his club has youth tradition also and he has been anti-Mourinho forever , Nihilist less so
My issue was with a self acclaimed Mourinholic Chelsea fan for that matter barging in and weeping more than the bereaved.

bigkesh:
One even said Lukaku was woeful for 'a whole 122 mins ' app in 8 games

Sometimes sef

Nihilist:


You've said it all. I've come to realise that Jose Mourinho has a way of swelling players short in a way that's believable to fans.

afrodoc2:


Every manager ( even the great ones) has his weaknesses and limitations.
Mourinho is not an offensive guru and does not believe in youth. That is no knock on him, it's just the way he is. He has his own strong points too.

Pep is an attacking mastermind but can't coach defense or use average players. One can go on and on with every great manager.

afrodoc2:


Every manager ( even the great ones) has his weaknesses and limitations.
Mourinho is not an offensive guru and does not believe in youth. That is no knock on him, it's just the way he is. He has his own strong points too.

Pep is an attacking mastermind but can't coach defense or use average players. One can go on and on with every great manager.

afrodoc2:


Every manager ( even the great ones) has his weaknesses and limitations.
Mourinho is not an offensive guru and does not believe in youth. That is no knock on him, it's just the way he is. He has his own strong points too.

Pep is an attacking mastermind but can't coach defense or use average players. One can go on and on with every great manager.

Agbakolly:
Dockie do you rate conte

Nihilist:


It was actually 155 minutes spread out over 8 league apps. That's less than 20 minutes a game.
.

Agbakolly:
Dockie do you rate conte

Funlordjnr:



I am not docky but I feel Conte is a solid coach! From his record in juve and his earlier work with smaller teams like bari, Siena and atalanta to his stint with Italy and currently with chelsin! Even as a player he was quality! He is a good coach! The only stain he might have is underperforming in europe plus mafia scam things!

raumdeuter:


I think you are quoting Lukaus entire CHelsea career Under Mourinho it was 3 games 2 league and Super cup

http://www.transfermarkt.com/romelu-lukaku/leistungsdatentrainer/spieler/96341/plus/0/trainer_id/781