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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 7:15pm On Apr 07, 2017
vedaxcool:
Documentry: Enemy of Enemies: The Rise of ISIL Part 1





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHrULpYeFk

In the video above the National Security Adviser to the PM of Iraq during the period of the invasion of Iraq stated that Assad supported al qaeda elements in Iraq despite being warned to desist from such. This same alqaeda in Iraq became ISIL, a shia led dictatorship supported a sunni terrorist group for short tern gains something the Unislamic republic of Iran is doing.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:20pm On Apr 07, 2017
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I definitely would advise albaqir to refrain from calling anyone names.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:33pm On Apr 07, 2017
It is too late to come up with NSA trash. It is common knowledge who those alkaida fundraisers. To late for that.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by tintingz(m): 9:40pm On Apr 07, 2017
vedaxcool:
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The Quran says he who kills an innocent man is like killing all of humanity... in your dreams Asad regime was maintained with flowers there was no oppression no killing no torture just endless love to the extent most Syrian suspected their neighbor was a potential government spy ... the quran says oppression is worse than killing....then again this is assad we are talking about the same man who supported al qaeda in Iraq because he wanted them to be a pressure point to force the US out of Iraq. .. this are not my words but that of the former NSA of Iraq who accused Syria of supporting al qaeda and even travelled to Syria to warn assad to desist from doing and that he will regret supporting alqaeda. But I trust in your world facts don't matter but sentiments and dishonesty altogether.
When Tu'face wanted to organize a protest for a better country, your brothers here were discouraging it, saying it is not sunnatic to protest, that a slave should obey his master no matter what even if he is stroke in the back (quoting from hadith), something like a stoic syndrome.

But your post here is the opposite? Why, is it because Assad is affiliated with shias? undecided

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 9:51pm On Apr 07, 2017
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tintingz:
When Tu'face wanted to organize a protest for a better country, your brothers here were discouraging it, saying it is not sunnatic to protest, that a slave should obey his master no matter what even if he is stroke in the back (quoting from hadith), something like a stoic syndrome.

But your post here is the opposite? Why, is it because Assad is affiliated with shias? undecided
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Since you know those who made the statement, I think the sensible thing to do is to question THEM on THEIR opinions....

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 9:58pm On Apr 07, 2017
Running to quote Trump who wasn't in Iraq at the time of invasion, who didn't occupy any position where intelligence was being passed around over an NSA in Iraq at the time Iraq was being confronted with alqaeada makes not sense, in fact it is illogical to take the statement of a distant spectator over an actual participant in the unfolding drama. lol grin grin grin
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 10:00pm On Apr 07, 2017
Empiree:
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I definitely would advise albaqir to refrain from calling anyone names.

This would have made more impact some weeks ago... they say it is never too late to do right.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:33pm On Apr 07, 2017
So you both think us airstrikes would "STOP" Assad right?. You must be living in the moon. They already reported deaths due to trump's order. So I guess you should rethink. You said Assad should be STOPPED. Is this how to do that knowing too well these people are in for their interest?.

To stop it is very simple but none is really interested. I heard on 1010WINS (news media) that Saudi endorsed Trump's move. How convenient. Is it too hard for them to call ALL their Muslim and Arab leaders behind closed doors and talk this out without getting foreign kufar involved?. But if Israel attacks Gaza now, Saudi would put its tail btw its legs and start shouting "Allah's help".

Thank God that demmy said the rebels made mistake by starting this nonsense. Then, they are responsible for the deaths of men, women and children. There is no difference btw them and BH.

Nigerians want Boko boys to put down their weapons or get nuked by Nigerian army. In the process, many Nigerians have died and you people dont give a flying fvck about it. So why are you so much concerned about civilians in Syria?. The same way BH are being funded by God knows who is the same way with these rebels . They must be funded by the same Santa Claus who is coming to their rescue now.

So Assad has the right to give them hell bcus he NEVER EVER barred them from their religious obligations. Rebels could not have maintained this armed struggles this long without some sort of civilized fanciers. I hope you remember when John McCain posed with them few yrs ago. That speaks volume. We also learned whoever joined the rebels and ISIL were given millions in cash. So abeg, they either out down their weapons and submit to Assad's govt or we just leave everything as it is.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 2:22am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:
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I definitely would advise albaqir to refrain from calling anyone names.

I never felt sorry in my life for people like that Aboki. He remains a fool that deserve neither my response nor apology. Its a waste of time arguing with fools, they will always beat you by experience. Besides, the guy's an annoying and inconsiderate person. He's a fool never change.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 2:54am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:


To stop it is very simple but none is really interested. I heard on 1010WINS (news media) that Saudi endorsed Trump's move. How convenient. Is it too hard for them to call ALL their Muslim and Arab leaders behind closed doors and talk this out without getting foreign kufar involved?. But if Israel attacks Gaza now, Saudi would put its tail btw its legs and start shouting "Allah's help".



You give El-Saudi regime a lot of credit. Where has it been written that el-Saud ever make a move for the unity of Arab nations or the middle east? You expect a regime that never stand up for his Sunni " brother" (Palestine) to have sympathy for a "Shia" Syria?! You dream too big bro.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:47am On Apr 08, 2017
AlBaqir:


You give El-Saudi regime a lot of credit. Where has it been written that el-Saud ever make a move for the unity of Arab nations or the middle east? You expect a regime that never stand up for his Sunni " brother" (Palestine) to have sympathy for a "Shia" Syria?! You dream too big bro.
Aint giving them credit. I was simply trying to make the brothers to think and retract their pig-headed approach. I was trying to let them know there is alternative. What's the point of airstrikes that is causing causalities.

That's my point.


Again, I say please refrain from name calling. It is not healthy.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 4:11am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:



Again, I say please refrain from name calling. It is not healthy.

# Why do you wish admonishing me but not that annoying Aboki?!. You see how he started his usual annoying campaign on this issue. You know him before now aren't you? You know he's this bully fa.g.got guy. Such people deserve to be pay back in their own coin. Please Empiree give me a break.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:19am On Apr 08, 2017
Wow, this guy blows it off in 2 minutes.

The only people that buy this story on Syria are prostitutes and dump dump grin grin grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKlWrhQi2TQ
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 5:50am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:

Again, I say please refrain from name calling. It is not healthy.

It is healthy egg him to continue it seems to be what his whole life support is drawn from grin grin grin grin In the whole of Islam Section, this will be the only Muslim I know of who mouths out tribalistic slurs so shamelessly even after being corrected repeatedly despite using the same mouth to complain about racism. The sad thing about your right hand man is the fact that I corrected him made him immediately jump on the notion that I am hausa and has been spewing insults and slur normally directed at Hausa, as if only a Hausa man would take offence to such crass display of illiteracy that is contrary to what Islam is about. Tribalism is really a sickness, I never thought I would find any muslim in the Islam section to hastily act such sickness and defying curative appeals from his friend. What a shame. undecided
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:07am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:
Wow, this guy blows it off in 2 minutes.

The only people that buy this story on Syria are prostitutes and dump dump grin grin grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKlWrhQi2TQ

# Really as he concluded, "only the dumbest of the dumb will buy it (US excuse of striking Syria)."
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 6:16am On Apr 08, 2017
grin grin grin The sad thing about defenders of Assad is how quick they jettison basic Islamic principles, Allah equates killing an innocent man to killing all of humanity, Assad has not just killed innocent men but sinless children using the most dreadful means available. Allah says oppression is worse than killing, once again Assad supporters white wash Assad to the extent that his dictatorship should be consider for sainthood, the same man who support alqaeda in Iraq despite the fact they were murdering Iraqis which then was being governed by a shia led govt., showing any sensible person that this man would kill just about anyone to remain in power. Despite several warning by the Iraqi NSA to desist from such destabilizing act even Nouri al maliki accused Assad of supporting militants... today we see the fruits of the Devil -to use the words of a blatant liar- tree has produced. It takes cold heart to insist glance over the sea of blood Assad and his backers have created.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 6:57am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree,

Toyib Olawuyi writes:

Well, my new take on the incident is that it was planned by both the US and Russia. Both Trump and Putin want to talk about several issues, including Syria and Ukraine. But, international American politics prevents that. So, they had to create a situation for talks.

Russia has S-400 in Syria. This means that they were capable of shooting down the American missiles. But, they did nothing. Most importantly, they were informed beforehand about the attack. So, the fact that they allowed the missile to hit Syria means that they agreed to their launch.

Russia and the US will make a lot of noise in the coming days. Tensions will become very high. The US may even launch further missile strikes. Then, everyone will call for peace and dialogue between them to avoid WWIII. Then, Trump and Putin will be able to speak.

That, to me, is the endgame
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 8:18am On Apr 08, 2017
grin grin grin blatant liar is scratching his head hard wondering why their awaliya Russia played a fast one on Syria

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:41am On Apr 08, 2017
AlBaqir:


# Obviously Asad is capable of anything. However, there is no evidence he used it. In fact the evidence is ZERO.

Just as Assad runs torture detention centers, yet no evidence. Seriously, the way you Assadists reason is baffling, always playing politics with everything.

-Assad bombed Syrians for 6years, no talks
-US bombed Syrians for 3years, no talks
-Russia for 2years, no talks
US bombs Assad, you all suddenly become Pacifists, antiwar activists.

When will the hypocrisy stop?

However, OFFICIALLY Syria had been disarmed of its chemical weapons. Its very possible that those terrorists or their masters planned it all.

Which terrorists? OK, I explained to Empiree already what happened:

Rebels fired the stockpiles into their own neighborhood killing their own families and friends, and then gave Russia the coordinates of the hospitals treating the victims to bomb.

Besides, while investigation is still on, why did Trump quickly jumped into attack?

Seems your taqqiyah has been busted, from all observations, you're an Assad supporter. If Trump attacks Assad the monster and kafir as you call him killing 7 soldiers, what's your stress?

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya invasions were also under this false flag, and I want to believe people like you quickly bought the honey pie of the Media believing there was MWD in Iraq as claimed.

Stop using this countries as yardsticks, Assad has killed thousands with non-chemical weapons. ISIS wasn't responsible for airstrikes, they don't have airplanes, so be reasonable for once.

# Again I see no reason why Asad will use the nerve gas when he's winning comprehensively, when his government have taken back several territories, and knowing what might come out of it. Try to think.

Who told you Assad is winning? grin Take a look at the map below, that's as 27th March, 2017 and the FSA as gained alot from their fight against ISIS(Qalamoun and the Syrian desert). Just few battalions of FSA made Assad and his boys panic in Damascus, imagine what all of them would do.

Think!!!

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:46am On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree:
Wow, this guy blows it off in 2 minutes.

The only people that buy this story on Syria are prostitutes and dump dump grin grin grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKlWrhQi2TQ
Na Iranian mouthpiece na, Presstv grin grin

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:49am On Apr 08, 2017
vedaxcool:
grin grin grin blatant liar is scratching his head hard wondering why their awaliya Russia played a fast one on Syria
I heard the air defense systems given to Syria by Imam Putin views Israeli planes as friendly grin grin

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 9:30am On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
I heard the air defense systems given to Syria by Imam Putin views Israeli planes as friendly grin grin


chio ... oti pari my brother you have said it all Russia gave Israel a blank cheque to kill hezboshaytan and pursue their interest.... yet our naive brother and the blatant liar are still too naive to see that Assad is Imamu Putin minion who has no say in governing his country. They syria was resisting Israel now see how Putin is dealing and willing Syrian airspace. grin

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 10:59am On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
Na Iranian mouthpiece na, Presstv grin grin

So its a sin for Presstv to interview a known US ex-marine?! Obviously your blindness know no bound.

I guess below is also an Iranian mouthpiece:
www.ibtimes.com/congresswoman-who-secretly-visited-syria-blasts-trumps-short-sighted-airstrike-2522507

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 11:06am On Apr 08, 2017
AlBaqir:


So its a sin for Presstv to interview a known US ex-marine?! Obviously your blindness know no bound.

I guess below is also an Iranian mouthpiece:
www.ibtimes.com/congresswoman-who-secretly-visited-syria-blasts-trumps-short-sighted-airstrike-2522507
AlBaqir, you don't get it? I have Presstv, I loved the channel alot but I stopped when I discovered their biase and hypocrisy. That marine guy with tattoos is the most popular on that station. Whenever anything comes up, he's always called to comment.

George Galloway was my guy too but he's beginning to say rubbish nowadays. There was a day they carried a news "former saudi General assembles forces to fight saudi" I was like grin grin Are this people mad?

Sometimes they blame Israel and Saudi Arabia for everything and things that don't even have any concern with them. Very rubbish hypocritical channel!

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 11:09am On Apr 08, 2017
vedaxcool:



chio ... oti pari my brother you have said it all Russia gave Israel a blank cheque to kill hezboshaytan and pursue their interest.... yet our naive brother and the blatant liar are still too naive to see that Assad is Imamu Putin minion who has no say in governing his country. They syria was resisting Israel now see how Putin is dealing and willing Syrian airspace. grin
My brother it didn't stop there o, news reaching me says Russia has recognized West Jerusalem has Israel's capital.

I'm imagining how Imam Khamenei will be looking at Imam Putin Al Rusya l grin grin

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 11:13am On Apr 08, 2017
vedaxcool:



chio ... oti pari my brother you have said it all Russia gave Israel a blank cheque to kill hezboshaytan and pursue their interest.... yet our naive brother and the blatant liar are still too naive to see that Assad is Imamu Putin minion who has no say in governing his country. They syria was resisting Israel now see how Putin is dealing and willing Syrian airspace. grin
As AlBaqir said, Assad is a kafir according to Twelver Shias so Iran supporting him shows they an ulterior motive.

According to an article I read early this year, it says Iran is 10 times worse than Israel. I doubted it but I'm beginning to see that!

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 11:24am On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
My brother it didn't stop there o, news reaching me says Russia has recognized West Jerusalem has Israel's capital.

I'm imagining how Imam Khamenei will be looking at Imam Putin Al Rusya l grin grin


grin grin grin chio see as they are selling Muslims left right and centre because of power.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 11:55am On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
AlBaqir, you don't get it? I have Presstv, I loved the channel alot but I stopped when I discovered their biase and hypocrisy. That marine guy with tattoos is the most popular on that station. Whenever anything comes up, he's always called to comment.

George Galloway was my guy too but he's beginning to say rubbish nowadays. There was a day they carried a news "former saudi General assembles forces to fight saudi" I was like grin grin Are this people mad?

Sometimes they blame Israel and Saudi Arabia for everything and things that don't even have any concern with them. Very rubbish hypocritical channel!

I can never force or advice you to hate or love. That's your own decision bases on your judgment. However, this is politics. You need to bring out facts even if it backs your enemy (truth in this case is far from us). This game has nothing to do with religious affiliation.

Whatever my and your thoughts are, the point still remain the following:

# There is no evidence yet that Asad used those nerve gas

# The drill is that findings and evidences need to be submitted before decision and action taken.

# Trump move was too premature and clearly suggested he's going by the script of war mongers.

# Please read this line carefully before you use your usual words of qualifications:

Assuming Asad use chemical weapon against his people in his own country, what is the business of America to attack Syria? Do they really care about the people of Syria? It is the sole responsibility of the International community to decide what to do in such situations not US as a Nation.

When the US committed the crime against humanity in Japan years using Nuclear weapons, who attacked them on the premise of defending the Japanese?

Do you know how many women and children of Yemen the Saudi regime have murdered, and how many important places like hospitals, schools etc they have destroyed? Is the blood and lives of Yemen different from that of Syrian? What has the US and the rest of International community do for Saudi raiding people's land the way they like? This is where political interest comes from. UK is making billions of dollars selling nukes and other ammunitions to the Saudis.

Now talking about Iran, please forget Shiism for that might cloud your judgment. Who do you expect they should support? Asad or the sponsored terrorists?

This is something that will definitely affect the security of their own people (as a country). In the whole of middle East, only Iran has enjoyed full security over the years. If Syria, Iraq, Turkey and other areas closer to it fall under the control of the Terrorists, what do you think will happen?

Nigeria in fighting BOKO HARAM first tried to strengthen relations between herself and its neighbors even if we pay huge price and succumbed to certain terms and conditions. It is about your interest first.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 11:57am On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
AlBaqir, you don't get it? I have Presstv, I loved the channel alot but I stopped when I discovered their biase and hypocrisy. That marine guy with tattoos is the most popular on that station. Whenever anything comes up, he's always called to comment.

George Galloway was my guy too but he's beginning to say rubbish nowadays. There was a day they carried a news "former saudi General assembles forces to fight saudi" I was like grin grin Are this people mad?

Sometimes they blame Israel and Saudi Arabia for everything and things that don't even have any concern with them. Very rubbish hypocritical channel!

I can never force or advice you to hate or love. That's your own decision based on your judgment. However, this is politics. You need to bring out facts even if it backs your enemy (truth in this case is far from us). This game has nothing to do with religious affiliation.

Whatever my and your thoughts are, the point still remain the following:

# There is no evidence yet that Asad used those nerve gas

# The drill is that findings and evidences need to be submitted before decision and action taken.

# Trump move was too premature and clearly suggested he's going by the script of war mongers.

# Please read this line carefully before you use your usual words of qualifications:

Assuming Asad use chemical weapon against his people in his own country, what is the business of America to attack Syria? Do they really care about the people of Syria? It is the sole responsibility of the International community to decide what to do in such situations not US as a Nation.
That is obviously an "...aggression against a sovereign state in breach of international law".

When the US committed the crime against humanity in Japan years using Nuclear weapons, who attacked them on the premise of defending the Japanese?

Do you know how many women and children of Yemen the Saudi regime have murdered, and how many important places like hospitals, schools etc they have destroyed? Is the blood and lives of Yemen different from that of Syrian? What has the US and the rest of International community do for Saudi raiding people's land the way they like? This is where political interest comes from. UK is making billions of dollars selling nukes and other ammunitions to the Saudis.

Now talking about Iran, please forget Shiism for that might cloud your judgment. Who do you expect they should support? Asad or the sponsored terrorists?

This is something that will definitely affect the security of their own people (as a country). In the whole of middle East, only Iran has enjoyed full security over the years. If Syria, Iraq, Turkey and other areas closer to it fall under the control of the Terrorists, what do you think will happen?

Nigeria in fighting BOKO HARAM first tried to strengthen relations between herself and its neighbors even if we pay huge price and succumbed to certain terms and conditions. It is about your interest first.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2017
Demmzy15:
As AlBaqir said, Assad is a kafir according to Twelver Shias so Iran supporting him shows they an ulterior motive.

According to an article I read early this year, it says Iran is 10 times worse than Israel. I doubted it but I'm beginning to see that!


Iran would see the poorest arab country Yemen and their first instinct is to supply them weapons to start a sectarian war there. Allah judgement awaits them.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 1:58pm On Apr 08, 2017
Empiree, though I still can't put the pieces together.

# It is confirmed that Russian were informed of the air strike. Therefore they have enough time to clear their troops et al.

# Russia in turn informed the Syria of the imminent attack. There is a remote claim that the US also informed the Syria.

# Both Russia and Syria have S-300 which is one of the most powerful air defense systems in the world. It works 24/7 even given shortest notice. None of them did nothing to stop the attack.

# The Americans have been coordinating airstrikes with the Syrian since the time of Obama. And I want to believe this air strike follow same channel.

Obviously, something deep is going on, and we all might just been playing and fooled by these bunch of fools. But really, I can't put the pieces together yet. I cross my fingers watching development in 4D. I only feel sorry for the innocent lives.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by vedaxcool(m): 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2017
LMAO grin grin grin Imamu Putin al Russiani why leave your budies in the dark? Blatant liar just realised his been played a fool all the while hahaha grin grin

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