Rosskii:


Your entire body and your nasty generation are severely infected.

Show me any image of white or yellow Algerians before the Arab invasion of North Africa in the 7th century AD. ''Your north Africa'' indeed.

These are the first Algerians. Like the first Egyptians, the first Libyans, and the first Moroccans, they were BLACKS.


The Cave Paintings of Tassili n’Ajjer, Algeria

http://www.ancient-code.com/the-cave-paintings-of-tassili-najjer-proof-of-ancient-astronauts/

this white guys and monster also are painted in the same algerian cave 8000 BC



we are talking about modern humain homosapiens , no hommo erectus ect .... check numidian civilisation 300 BC , Massinissa, Micipsa, Jugurtha, Gaia, Juba Ier , do you think you know better my own history by going to google copying past first links you find ? so innocent

i will stop here , to not derailing the thread more , last reply for me , have no time to make your education and to treat your ignorance about history of africa

numidian money with massinissa king 200.BC

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chkil0:


this white guys and monster also are painted in the same algerian cave 8000 BC

There are no ''white guys'' in that pic, and that 'monster' is not human, and may represent religious symbolism of some sort.

These are images of the humans who lived there. So quit lying to yourself:


Tassili-N-Ajjer, Algeria

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chkil0:


this white guys and monster also are painted in the same algerian cave 8000 BC

There was no caucasians on the planet at that time (8000 BC )

Story story, story
Once upon a time, time time

Most Moors were not black they were middle easterners, please look at Mauritania.

Rosskii:


There are no ''white guys'' in that pic, and that 'monster' is not human, and may represent religious symbolism of some sort.

yeh i know you have problems to see white colour , sure this prehistoric white guys before homosapiens are animals with humans hands ,

you want a white civlisation before arabs ? i gave you Numidia 300 BC ,

now give me only one black civilisation in maghreb history ? only one ! you will not find , so stop beeing ridiculous !

ezeagu:
Story story, story
Once upon a time, time time

Most Moors were not black they were middle easterners, please look at Mauritania.

You look at Mauritania today, instead try to investigate and look at Mauritania in the past (same for Egypt)

Horus:


You look at Mauritania today, instead try to investigate and look at Mauritania in the past (same for Egypt)

Egypt is 5000 years ago, 500 years ago the Moors were middle easterners and north Africans with some blacks mixed in.

chkil0:


yeh i know you have problems to see white colour , sure this prehistoric white guys before homosapiens are animals with humans hands ,

you want a white civlisation before arabs ? i gave you Numidia 300 BC ,

now give me only one black civilisation in maghreb ? you will not find so stop beeing ridiculous !

Those a clearly whitewashed or faded images. Look at parts of the wall bearing the same washed out color as the ''white people''. Pathetic. You are a fraud. Can you get us some more ''white people'' in other cave paintings from the same region, or they were only three ''white people'' in ancient Algeria?

Rosskii:


Those a clearly whitewashed or faded images. Look at the adjoining wall bearing the same color as the ''white people''. Pathetic. Can you get us some more ''white people'' in other cave paintings from the same region, or they were only three ''white people'' in ancient Algeria?

whitewashed again ? childness answer , you are just a troll , discussing with you will have no end ! have no time to play with you ,

i gave you historical fact about my ancestrors , if you like to continue with conspirationist nonsense or believe ignorance bullshits your are free , good night !

ezeagu:


Egypt is 5000 years ago, 500 years ago the Moors were middle easterners and north Africans with some blacks mixed in.

Moors were PURE blacks and NOT middle easterners.

ezeagu:


Egypt is 5000 years ago, 500 years ago the Moors were middle easterners and north Africans with some blacks mixed in.

Garbage. That is the WHITE mainstream version of events.

Similar to the WHITE mainstream version of the colour of Jesus, the Egyptians etc, all of whom they changed from black to white.

chkil0:


you shown your face finally little troll brat , when your are short of argument you try personal insult



for english is not my mother tongue , i speak 5 languages , i can teach you 3 at high level if you want : algerian , french ( yes the same like your black charle V ) , arabic languages , and my english isnt that bad , how about you ?



, its like if i was saying original nigerian were whites , sooooo ignorants




wasnt you proud of moors in your posts just before ? , what a pitty , racist ignorant , i m berber not arab genetically , check the berbers civilisation in antiquity , my ancestrors had a huge civilisations in our land hundreds years befors BC . , One of the oldest civilizations on this continent contemporary to the Egyptian civilization .

i will add you some thing : at that time we north african were the only called africans , the name africa ,africans was generalized to the rest of continent many century later ! , so go play your childness racist trooling game in another thread to spread ignorance , hate and racism , here you are just been ridiculous little boy by copy past from your ridiculous conspirationist web site

ignore him please,enough said.

Horus:


Moors were PURE blacks and NOT middle easterners.

So where are their features in Spanish people today? How comes Spanish people's DNA points to Berbers and Arabs and never Senegalese or Malian people?

ezeagu:


So where are their features in Spanish people today? How comes Spanish people's DNA points to Berbers and Arabs and never Senegalese or Malian people?

You still find Black's DNA in some of them, same for France, Italy. Eveytime you see familly names like Moro, Moreno, Morand, Morena, Moranos, etc, they have Black Moors in their ancestry

Horus:


You still find Black's DNA in some of them, same for France, Italy. Eveytime you see familly names like Moro, Moreno, Morand, Morena, Moranos, etc, hey ave Black Moors in their ancestry

You don't find a significant amount, in fact most of them have no African ancestry outside of north Africa.

ezeagu:


You don't find a significant amount, in fact most of them have no African ancestry outside of north Africa.

And? north Africa today is NOT north Africa before the invasion, try to investigate to find the facts (look at the two pictures that i posted)

Horus:


And? north Africa today is NOT north Africa before the invasion, try to investigate to find the facts (look at the two pictures that i posted)

tunisians genetic composition (Genographic Project study) , maybe it will help to correct some wrong ideas


88% berbers ancsestors , 5% europeens genes, 4% arabic genes and only 2 % from Western and Central Africa combined.

chkil0:


tunisians genetic composition (Genographic Project study) , maybe it will help to correct some wrong ideas


88% berbers ancsestors , 5% europeens genes, 4% arabic genes and only 2 % from Western and Central Africa combined.

What you just posted are the genetic of the Invaders of North Africa NOT the original First population in ancient North Africa

Below are the original First population in ancient North Africa (look also the source with link provided below the picture)



Clearly Black African - Tassili nAjjer cave art

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassili_n%27Ajjer

chkil0:


ok , this is pics of our lady of africa basilica in algiers(algeria ) with black mary , to make him happy

last reply for me in this subject

Horus:


What you just posted are the genetic of the Invaders of North Africa NOT the original First population in ancient North Africa

Below are the original First population in ancient North Africa (look also the source with link provided below the picture)


Clearly Black African - Tassili nAjjer cave art

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tassili_n%27Ajjer

here you are talking about paleolithic , homo habilis Homo erectus , Iberomaurusian , homo Capsians, ( this last two was endemic in North Africa and the northern and southern Mediterranean littoral ) , now they was white or black different source , according to dna studies prehistorics north african comes from iberique region ( spain now) migration .

but i m talking about modern humain, homo-sapians , the first modern humain was berbers in north africa , there was no black civilisation ! the first civilisations in maghreb was whites from their prehistoric ancestors ! its facts !

chkil0:


here you are talking about paleolithic , homo habilis Homo erectus , Iberomaurusian , homo Capsians, ( this last two was endemic in North Africa and the northern and southern Mediterranean littoral ) , now they was white or black different source , according to dna studies prehistorics north african comes from iberique region ( spain now) migration .

but i m talking about modern humain homo-sapians , there was no black civilisation in north africa ! the first civilisations in maghreb was whites from their prehistoric ancestors ! its facts !

Hang on a minute... Are you saying that these cave paintings being posted are not of homo sapiens?

I give up on you. You're clearly mental. I suggest a trip to a psychiatric facility as soon as humanly possible (excuse the pun).


BY THE WAY, YOU SAID:

''There was no black civilization in North Africa''. Another crazy remark, since Egypt was a black civilization which existed before your ancestors were conceived.

But there was an even EARLIER black civilization in North Africa than Egypt.

It was called Ta Seti.


Excerpts:

Ta Seti - World's Oldest Civilization

In 1962, a research team headed by Keith C. Seele, Director of The University of Chicago Oriental Institute Nubian Expedition, discovered a pharaonic dynasty in Nubia that predated the first pharaonic period in Kemet (Egypt). This is an area that extends from northern Sudan to southern Kemet. In some literature it was referred to as ancient Ethiopia, or as in the Bible, Kush. Today, it is called Ta-Seti.

On 1 March 1979, The New York Times carried an article on its front page, written by Boyce Rensberger, with the headline: "Nubian Monarchy Called Oldest". In the article, Rensberger wrote: "Evidence of the oldest recognizable monarchy in human history, preceding the rise of the earliest Egyptian kings by several generations, has been discovered in artifacts from ancient Nubia." He estimated that "The first kings of Ta-Seti may well have ruled about 5900 BC."

http://ourweekly.com/news/2009/jun/18/ta-seti-worlds-oldest-civilization/

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Where they even white folk around in 5,900 BC? I seriously doubt it. There's no record of them that goes back that far, which I'm aware of.

Rosskii:


Hang on a minute... Are you saying that these cave paintings being posted are not of homo sapiens?

I give up on you. You're clearly mental. I suggest a trip to a psychiatric facility as soon as humanly possible (excuse the pun).

i mean modern humain civilisation not prehistoric homosapiens , we are talking about history not prehistory , dont play the fool and no need to reply to my post little troll i have finished with you , when you find a black civilisation in maghreb or black king come to argue again ,

chkil0:


i mean modern humain civilisation not prehistoric homosapiens , we are talking about history not prehistory , dont play the fool and no need to reply to my post little troll i have finished with you , when you find a black civilisation in maghreb or black king come to argue again ,

I just did^^^.

Ever heard of Ta Seti?

Rosskii:


I just did^^^.

Ever heard of Ta Seti?

well with historic lessons you need also geographic lessons ? do you know were maghreb is ??

just troll jumping from a subject to other when blocked . the egyptians civilisation origins and dynastys OMG ! ( black ? whites ? they have also a berber dynasty ) and the theories about who is older is another huge subject ! try to go spread your google fast copy past knowledge in an egyptian historic forum ( they speak english and i m sure will be happy to teach you their own history too) .

as i said have no time to play with you ! still believe that blacks africains ruled europe and others ignorance bullshits . good night

KERMA

City in Sudan - Dated to 3000 BC


Kerma (also known as Dukki Gel) was the capital city of the Kerma Culture, which was located in present-day Sudan at least 5500 years ago. Kerma is one of the largest archaeological sites in ancient Nubia. It has produced decades of extensive excavations and research, including thousands of graves and tombs and the residential quarters of the main city surrounding the Western/Lower Deffufa.

Around 3000 BCE, a cultural tradition began around Kerma. It was a large urban center that was built around a large adobe temple known as the Western Deffufa.

As a capital city and location of royal burials, it sheds light on the complex social structure present in this society.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerma

chkil0:


well with historic lessons you need also geographic lessons ? do you know were maghreb is ??

The Maghreb was originally peopled by berbers who were originally black Africans like everyone else on the continent. They were there for thousands of years in their towns and cities living happily before the Romans invaded around 200 BC and began adding white blood to the place. Now they look mixed, and you want to claim it was always white/yellow, which is wrong.

chkil0:


here you are talking about paleolithic , homo habilis Homo erectus , Iberomaurusian , homo Capsians, ( this last two was endemic in North Africa and the northern and southern Mediterranean littoral ) , now they was white or black different source , according to dna studies prehistorics north african comes from iberique region ( spain now) migration .

but i m talking about modern humain, homo-sapians , the first modern humain was berbers in north africa , there was no black civilisation ! the first civilisations in maghreb was whites from their prehistoric ancestors ! its facts !

The first of what you call modern humain in north africa was black african. Same for Egypt, it was all black african. (any white "creature" is an invader who came after)

For your case there is only two possibilities:

1 - You suffer from "factual blindness"

2 - You are deliberately dishonest

Ask yourself why you often find giraffes in the Tassili najjer cave art. It is because the place we call the Sahara Desert today was covered in the past with green forests with african animals including lions, cheetahs, giraffes, zebras.etc.

There was no desert at all in the past, thousands of years ago, so there was no natural border between sub-sahara and north africa and it was populated with the same black population everywhere, north and south

The scientists in the video below are refuting your lies




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wByZWM4cSqg

Tassili N'Ajjer Film Excerpt

chukxie:
This is a great and educative thread! I wish we black Africans told our stories/ histories more often. When undeniable facts like these are presented by Africans - not Europeans who distort facts for their pleasing- the world would begin to appreciate the black race for what it is, and the many positive contributions it has made for mankind.

Sad thing is most Africans don't believe we have actually contributed and rarely research into our history or exploits. We make it easy for Europeans to spread the lies about us.

They even deny the many African American inventions we still use today.

londoner:


Sad thing is most Africans don't believe we have actually contributed and rarely research into our history or exploits. We make it easy for Europeans to spread the lies about us.

They even deny the many African American inventions we still use today.

Sad. The only way out of the lowly state the blackman has been reduced to by the whites is education - proper and standard one. Education creates awareness. With awareness comes the desire to correct the generally held negative stereotypical notions about one, one's culture, one's tradition, one's beliefs, one's country and even one's race. Proper education is the key!