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Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by DoctorAlien(m): 8:27pm On Apr 20, 2017
The Roman Catholic Church claims that the early Christians were all Roman Catholics, and that (aside from the Orthodox Church) all Christians were Roman Catholics until the Protestant Reformation. It claims that the Apostle Peter was the first Pope, ruling from Rome. It also claims that it gave us the Bible.

But do these claims stand up to the test of history? Or are they false credentials?

There is historical evidence that the Roman Catholic Church began with Emperor Constantine. Many Protestants believe that throughout Church history, there have been many true Christians who were not Catholics, and these Christians were often killed by the Catholic Church. They also believe that Peter was just one of the apostles, and that the Catholic Church only copied and preserved the Bible, which God had already given to us.

Follow the link below to read more:

www.behindthebadge.net/apologetics/discuss129.html

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 3:00am On Apr 21, 2017
DoctorAlien:
The Roman Catholic Church claims that the early Christians were all Roman Catholics, and that (aside from the Orthodox Church) all Christians were Roman Catholics until the Protestant Reformation. It claims that the Apostle Peter was the first Pope, ruling from Rome. It also claims that it gave us the Bible.

But do these claims stand up to the test of history? Or are they false credentials?

There is historical evidence that the Roman Catholic Church began with Emperor Constantine. Many Protestants believe that throughout Church history, there have been many true Christians who were not Catholics, and these Christians were often killed by the Catholic Church. They also believe that Peter was just one of the apostles, and that the Catholic Church only copied and preserved the Bible, which God had already given to us.

Follow the link below to read more:

www.behindthebadge.net/apologetics/discuss129.html

Your link takes its lies from Mary Ann Collins. One who is said to be an ex-nun, but never existed.

When anti-Catholic protestants have to manufacture a non-existent ex-nun, to manufacture lies to disprove the Catholic Church, you should know they are being led by a spirit other than the Holy Spirit.

Have you ever seen the Catholic Church manufacturing a pentecostal pastor, to manufacture a lie about pentecostalism?

Why is it always protestants telling outright lies against Catholicism?

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by oladoja1(m): 7:34am On Apr 21, 2017
was Jesus a Catholic or protestant?
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 8:50am On Apr 21, 2017
oladoja1:
was Jesus a Catholic or protestant?

Jesus established the Catholic Church in 33AD.

Martin Luther established protestantism 1500 years later.

So, in a sense, Jesus is Catholic.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by An2elect2(f): 10:23am On Apr 21, 2017
God forbid.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by An2elect2(f): 10:27am On Apr 21, 2017
italo:


Jesus established the Catholic Church in 33AD.

Martin Luther established protestantism 1500 years later.

So, in a sense, Jesus is Catholic.

You stiff-necked man. May the Lord rebuke you for associating Him with a pagan religion.To say Jesus was Catholic is
blasphemy against the Spirit of God.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 10:48am On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
You stiff-necked man. May the Lord rebuke you for associating Him with a pagan religion.To say Jesus was Catholic is
blasphemy against the Spirit of God.

So a pagan religion compiled and canonized the Bible? A pagan religion preaches Jesus every second all over the world?

Jesus is Catholic. Kill yourself if it pains you too much.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by An2elect2(f): 11:07am On Apr 21, 2017
italo:


So a pagan religion compiled and canonized the Bible? A pagan religion preaches Jesus every second all over the world?

Jesus is Catholic. Kill yourself if it pains you too much.
Lying is not far from you. How can you compile a book you don't believe? And how can you mortal canonise a book of the Holy God?

The "Jesus" you preach is a subject of your god " blessed virgin mary". No wonder you live in sin and "work for eternal life"

You are a hopeless man. Look at you
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 11:18am On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
Lying is not far from you. How can you compile a book you don't believe? And how can you mortal canonise a book of the Holy God?


I see! So you believe your Bible fell from the sky.
An2elect2:

The "Jesus" you preach is a subject of your god " blessed virgin mary". No wonder you live in sin and "work for eternal life"

You are a hopeless man. Look at you

I'm not worried about the brainless opinion of someone who believes the Bible fell from the sky.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by An2elect2(f): 11:25am On Apr 21, 2017
italo:



I see! So you believe your Bible fell from the sky.


I'm not worried about the brainless opinion of someone who believes the Bible fell from the sky.
It's not hard for your sin to find you out. You oppose the living God and think you will have peace?

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them. John3:36
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by oladoja1(m): 11:57am On Apr 21, 2017
italo:

Jesus established the Catholic Church in 33AD.
Martin Luther established protestantism 1500 years later.
So, in a sense, Jesus is Catholic.
evidence in the Bible
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by DoctorAlien(m): 2:08pm On Apr 21, 2017
italo:


Your link takes its lies from Mary Ann Collins. One who is said to be an ex-nun, but never existed.

When anti-Catholic protestants have to manufacture a non-existent ex-nun, to manufacture lies to disprove the Catholic Church, you should know they are being led by a spirit other than the Holy Spirit.

Have you ever seen the Catholic Church manufacturing a pentecostal pastor, to manufacture a lie about pentecostalism?

Why is it always protestants telling outright lies against Catholicism?



Argumentum ad hominem, mixed with a little bit of red herring.

Is anything in that article not true? Bring your solid evidence. Don't gimme those forged "writings from the early church fathers".

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Nobody: 2:47pm On Apr 21, 2017
No they were not.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by PastorAIO: 3:58pm On Apr 21, 2017
The op betrays an ignorance of the history of Christianity.

The Catholic Church never claimed that all early christians were Catholics. In fact history tells us that there were many many different types of Christianity in the first century. A lot of these the Catholic Church claims were heresies.

However the version of Christianity that won out over the others was the orthodox Christianity of the Roman Catholic Church. No protestant can make the claim of antiquity that the Catholic Church has unless they claim to hark back to heresy.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Splinz(m): 4:32pm On Apr 21, 2017
italo:

Jesus established the Catholic Church in 33AD.

You see! While the Holy Spirit fell on the disciples on Pentecost Day in AD 31, marking the official beginning of the New Testament Church, your own Catholic church was established in AD 33.

Obviously, the Church of God established in AD 31 by Jesus Christ Himself can't be the same one you claimed He established in AD 33.

So what? Go and find out who is the true founder of your church.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 4:32pm On Apr 21, 2017
PastorAIO:
The op betrays an ignorance of the history of Christianity.

The Catholic Church never claimed that all early christians were Catholics. In fact history tells us that there were many many different types of Christianity in the first century. A lot of these the Catholic Church claims were heresies.

However the version of Christianity that won out over the others was the orthodox Christianity of the Roman Catholic Church. No protestant can make the claim of antiquity that the Catholic Church has unless they claim to hark back to heresy.
Pastoraio, welcome back to the religion forum, i saw your post on another thread. Its good to have u back.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by shadeyinka(m): 5:05pm On Apr 21, 2017
Its simple!

What is the difference between Roman catholic church and the Protestant churches?

What are those things done in the Catholic church of the present that were not in the Church of the Apostles time?

1. If you can prove that Peter and his fellow Apostles put on the Priestly Robe, then the first church is catholic
2. If you can prove that Peter ,Paul and the other Apostles use the rosaries then you have a point
3. If Mary the mother of Jesus was venerated to the status of Mother of God during the times of Peter and the other disciples, then you have a point.
4. Show me the earliest Monastery if it coincides with Jesus or His Apostles
5. Which seminary or Monastery did Timothy attend
6. How many Nuns were recorded in the books of Acts of the Apostle...

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 6:11pm On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
It's not hard for your sin to find you out. You oppose the living God and think you will have peace?

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them. John3:36

I dont take the opinion of someone who believes the bible fell from the sky seriously.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 6:13pm On Apr 21, 2017
oladoja1:

evidence in the Bible

Which bible? The same one that was compiled by the Catholic Church in the Synod of Rome in 382AD, under Pope Damasus?

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by PastorAIO: 6:16pm On Apr 21, 2017
Ubenedictus:
Pastoraio, welcome back to the religion forum, i saw your post on another thread. Its good to have u back.

Thank you. I've been creeping back slowly for a few weeks now. I pray that all is good with you.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 6:24pm On Apr 21, 2017
DoctorAlien:


Argumentum ad hominem, mixed with a little bit of red herring.

Is anything in that article not true? Bring your solid evidence. Don't gimme those forged "writings from the early church fathers".

It is you who has to prove your claims first. You're the OP, remember?

Your only evidence to back your claims is that a nun whom you and your kind manufactured said it.

How can anyone take you seriously.

You should even be sorry that you are lifting from a fictitious source. But no.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 6:51pm On Apr 21, 2017
Splinz:


You see! While the Holy Spirit fell on the disciples on Pentecost Day in AD 31, marking the official beginning of the New Testament Church, your own Catholic church was established in AD 33.

Obviously, the Church of God established in AD 31 by Jesus Christ Himself can't be the same one you claimed He established in AD 33.

So what? Go and find out who is the true founder of your church.


Grow up.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Splinz(m): 6:56pm On Apr 21, 2017
italo:


Grow up.

Here he goes, finding words in irrelevancies. Continue with your ad hominem.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 6:59pm On Apr 21, 2017
shadeyinka:
Its simple!

What is the difference between Roman catholic church and the Protestant churches?

What are those things done in the Catholic church of the present that were not in the Church of the Apostles time?

1. If you can prove that Peter and his fellow Apostles put on the Priestly Robe, then the first church is catholic
2. If you can prove that Peter ,Paul and the other Apostles use the rosaries then you have a point
3. If Mary the mother of Jesus was venerated to the status of Mother of God during the times of Peter and the other disciples, then you have a point.
4. Show me the earliest Monastery if it coincides with Jesus or His Apostles
5. Which seminary or Monastery did Timothy attend
6. How many Nuns were recorded in the books of Acts of the Apostle...


So in order for God's Church to exist for 2000 years, it must do everything exactly the same way from the beginning to the end of the world.

So because an anthem changed from 'Nigeria we hail thee' to 'Arise o compatriots,' it is no longer the same country?

Or because a woman takes her husband's surname, wears a ring, and dresses like a married woman she has become a separate person?

This is why Nigeria is in a mess. People dont think.

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by italo: 7:01pm On Apr 21, 2017
Splinz:


Here he goes, finding words in irrelevancies. Continue with your ad hominem.

Just grow up.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:03pm On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
God forbid.
God forbid what? how old is the protestant church?
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Splinz(m): 7:04pm On Apr 21, 2017
italo:


Just grow up.

Get lost.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:11pm On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
You stiff-necked man. May the Lord rebuke you for associating Him with a pagan religion.To say Jesus was Catholic is
blasphemy against the Spirit of God.
Since you seem to hold John Calvin in high regard, this is his opinion on the matter.


“I deny not that the early Christians uniformly give high honour to the Roman Church, and speak of it with reverence. . . . pious and holy bishops, when driven from their sees, often
betook themselves to Rome as an asylum or
haven. . . . It therefore added very great authority to the Roman Church, that . . . [it]
adhered more firmly to the doctrine once
delivered, . . .” (IV, 6:16)

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:18pm On Apr 21, 2017
An2elect2:
Lying is not far from you. How can you compile a book you don't believe? And how can you mortal canonise a book of the Holy God?

The "Jesus" you preach is a subject of your god " blessed virgin mary". No wonder you live in sin and "work for eternal life"

You are a hopeless man. Look at you
I hope you know that telling lies about peoples beliefs is wrong?

I will like to hear u explain how you think the bible in its present form came about, hope you know it didnt fall frm the sky?

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Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:20pm On Apr 21, 2017
MZLady39:
No they were not.
What were they? judaizers? there were heresies in the early church, so if the true early xtians werent catholics what were they? arian?
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:24pm On Apr 21, 2017
PastorAIO:
The op betrays an ignorance of the history of Christianity.

The Catholic Church never claimed that all early christians were Catholics. In fact history tells us that there were many many different types of Christianity in the first century. A lot of these the Catholic Church claims were heresies.

However the version of Christianity that won out over the others was the orthodox Christianity of the Roman Catholic Church. No protestant can make the claim of antiquity that the Catholic Church has unless they claim to hark back to heresy.
so dralien, slinz which heresy do you want to trace from? the arians or the judaizers? i know u keep d saturday sabbath.
Re: Were The Early Christians Roman Catholics? by Ubenedictus(m): 7:25pm On Apr 21, 2017
Splinz:


You see! While the Holy Spirit fell on the disciples on Pentecost Day in AD 31, marking the official beginning of the New Testament Church, your own Catholic church was established in AD 33.

Obviously, the Church of God established in AD 31 by Jesus Christ Himself can't be the same one you claimed He established in AD 33.

So what? Go and find out who is the true founder of your church.

oya let us argue sematics and calender.

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