Schwartz:


I like you, you're real.

Bia, bjhaid, since I have lived abroad my eyes have seen only one man in a car with a Driver. I repeat only one!

Okay.

salford:

my village people indeed. dem hold me for work seriously. Thank God they have released me sha..mid to late 2000 was tough....i remember how i cried the first time i burnt my palm with the big mac toaster..that shit hurt so bad or my dishwasher job at man united, i did that shift once before i ran..i have never seem so many plates in my life..... ..I miss the UK sha..

I remember a particular night shift at walmart. Everyone sat at my desk at lunch about 8 of us were engineers from different countries.. we joked about setting up our own consultancy inside walmart . Two of us moved on to security job and some other to care jobs. These jobs were heavenly compared to walmart jobs....

Eyes have seen despite being legal in these countries..I thank God sha cos i finally broke even...i cant imagine what ilego go through in these countries.

I love the Uk, but the weather is killing me, I have S.A.D , and Manchester doesn't help the conditions. Lol

Already booked a holiday Los Angeles in February and am sooooo looking forward to it

salford:

And like i said. i am not against any one migrating.just advising that potential immigrants give it a very good thought since it is a life long decision.
If you are working in a good job in naija and you want to migrate...odikwa risky..think am well. Some would migrate cos of their children though..i think i fall in this category.
if you are unemployed or barely surviving..abeg migrate sharply since you have nothing to lose whether u migrate or not.

The last paragraph is exactly what we talking about, people wey get small still be like e go better, the ones wey no get at all no be hell be that ....

salford:

I didnt say there are no jobs over here. Just letting you know the jobs are also not easy to come by. Even the so called survival jobs would still not be handed to you on a platter of gold e.g cleaning or hotel bed laying jobs. Employers would ask you for years of experience in cleaning/operation of buffing machine or bed laying.

I stayed cos i was determined. Alot of Nigerians arrived Canada/UK around the same time i arrived, and returned home cos they couldnt bear the hardship/difficulty...
You are suprised..yes, lots of nigerians and other foreign nationals return to their home countries every year when they realised abroad is not eldorado and they were better off at home......

I Suffered for some years and eventually broke even. I am glad that i slugged it out...I stayed back cos of my kids...atleast my children would have excellent education, good healthcare, good stndard of living e.t.c they would not have had access to in Nigeria. They would also find it much easier than i did when i moved here.

Lol, talking of those who ran back to naija, my brother in law got a Visa to Ireland thru a church program, after the program he and a few other pple ran away and decided not to go back to Nigeria.

They started staying with a relative of one of the guys. The relative secured menial jobs for them.

My brother in law went one day and decided the struggle was not for him, so he got on a plane and came back home, the wife nearly died. He is an assistant pastor and counsellor for his churn, that's all he does, all his responsibilities falls on his wife who is always begging Frds and relative for kids school fees and house rent. She is a private school teacher, her younger sister who leaves in Europe is a main helper. She doesn't work but will send money monthly fro
The benefits the government gives her for her kids upkeep.

While the man goes about town complaining of how he helped his friends dat are still in Dublin and how they have totally forgotten him.

slimany:


which country in picture

UK. In America even more.

Many failed with EU marriage stuff. Only some with UK kids eventually did get.

While some were waiting for 15 years stay to apply, Theresa May as Home Office secretary shifted it to 20 years.

bebe2:


Lol, talking of those who ran back to naija, my brother in law got a Visa to Ireland thru a church program, after the program he and a few other pple ran away and decided not to go back to Nigeria.

They started staying with a relative of one of the guys. The relative secured menial jobs for them.

My brother in law went one day and decided the struggle was not for him, so he got on a plane and came back home, the wife nearly died. He is an assistant pastor and counsellor for his churn, that's all he does, all his responsibilities falls on his wife who is always begging Frds and relative for kids school fees and house rent. She is a private school teacher, her younger sister who leaves in Europe is a main helper. She doesn't work but will send money monthly fro
The benefits the government gives her for her kids upkeep.

While the man goes about town complaining of how he helped his friends dat are still in Dublin and how they have totally forgotten him.

lol. The struggle was not for him but he prefers to blaim his friends who stay put and keep hustling real hard. I guess that your brother na ajebutter, cos I doubt if any struggling Nigeria dude will even think of Nigeria for the next 5years talk less of coming back to naija.How I wish I can talk to that ur sister not send anything to him again so he can be more responsible.

Seanjay:




i think that is common with all of them, i have an aunt(my moms immediate sister) in UK also shes been there for the past 30yrs and she had two kids there and live fine she is even a nurse in the UK have, 3yrs ago i was processing my travelling the to the Uk on my own jeje oo and unfortunately for me she came home and was spending money upadan and claiming the boss then my dad was still alive and shes close to.
So my dad so her that it even good that shes around that have been processing uk that may be she can help so she told my dad that no problem that she is going to help and after a week or two she left for the Uk and next i will saw was a call from my aunt that i should go to UK embassy in Lagos Island to make inquiries about what it will take me to get a visa (i was so surprise that this is coming from someone that had been coming in and out of Uk for the past 30yrs) but just to do what she asked i went there and i gave her the feedback(concerning invitation and sponsorer, account details and other things) about the invitation she said our two daughter can file that for me i was happy, but to my surprise she told me to wait for a while that i cant come now that it one party that us ruling and they have strict rule about immigrant and so on, but still promise to see what She can do and that she will get back to me, na so she take do till now. after have relaxed and had used the money i wanted to use for the processing for something else, so last 2yrs my dad died so my aunt started calling me again to sympathize with me and told me that she will fulfill the promise she made to my dad but up till now i still de naija, me wey don de jeje de process my things on my own i dont even first travel comot naija go disvirgin my passport na so she take shatter my dreams.... The Funnies Part She Can Call For Africa And Assure She Is Going To Help But Thats The End You Wont Hear Or See Anything Again... May Be Them De Fear True True Say If You Come You Go Excel Pass Them And You Will Be Dragging BreadWinner With Them..

Please don't rely on her promises. If you have your way start processing your papers sharply.

queendoreez:


Please don't wait for her promises. If you have your way start processing your papers sharply.

no mind her i no de wait for her again since when it just that the country is somehow hard now and to get that money back to restart the processing is the problem now she just made me waste money and time very silly aunt

bjhaid:
Its Just Grace and favor bro, a close relative moved into us 4years ago, he's got a Good job, an apartment in the Windy City, a car with a personal driver and kids, and lpr status.

As many people have mentioned to you already, your brother is either lying to you or exaggerating things. No company in the western world gives a dedicated driver to an employee. Not even to the CEO's of the most successful companies in the world. The best they can do is to hire a limo to take him to the airport or to some special occasions or pick him from the airport of from the special occasions AS NEEDED. You also don't have to be at the very top level in the organization for the company to hire a lime to take you to the airport or pick you from the airport. The company I work for does that whenever we travel for business.

justwise:
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He traveled with what sort of visa?

A personal driver given to him by the company?

bjhaid:
k1 Visa, yap.

The fact that your brother is on K1 visa make me feel strong about the fact that he is either lying to you or exaggerating things when he says he has a dedicated driver from the company. The reason being that I doubt that he is on K1 visa (I may be wrong) because of the type of visa the K1 visa is and the fact that you said he went with his kids. For your information, a K1 visa is a visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, or depart the United States. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident (LPR) of the United States (Green Card holder). In addition, before filing for a K-1 Visa a couple must have seen each other in person within 2 years prior to the filing. It is important to collect evidence of having met in person prior to filing and include this evidence with the petition.

Considering all of the above can you clarify the following?
1. How did he get his K1 visa?
2. Because K1 visa is a fiancé or fiancée visa, did he have his kids outside of wedlock (not impossible) and the mother of his kids (who is a US citizen) now filed for him? If this is the case, the kids are automatically US citizens even if they were born in Nigeria since their mom is a US citizen.

slimany:


lol. The struggle was not for him but he prefers to blaim his friends who stay put and keep hustling real hard. I guess that your brother na ajebutter, cos I doubt if any struggling Nigeria dude will even think of Nigeria for the next 5years talk less of coming back to naija.How I wish I can talk to that ur sister not send anything to him again so he can be more responsible.

The guy no be ajebo ooo, just plain lazy.

Na church twist my sister head, she desperate to keep her marriage.

AreaFada2:


UK. In America even more.

Many failed with EU marriage stuff. Only some with UK kids eventually did get.

While some were waiting for 15 years stay to apply, Theresa May as Home Office secretary shifted it 20 years.

W ooohh , it's 20yrs

I heard marring a British citizen is 10yrs.

femi4:
at least I ll enjoy uninterrupted power supply

hahaha

Seanjay:




i think that is common with all of them, i have an aunt(my moms immediate sister) in UK also shes been there for the past 30yrs and she had two kids there and live fine she is even a nurse in the UK have, 3yrs ago i was processing my travelling the to the Uk on my own jeje oo and unfortunately for me she came home and was spending money upadan and claiming the boss then my dad was still alive and shes close to.
So my dad so her that it even good that shes around that have been processing uk that may be she can help so she told my dad that no problem that she is going to help and after a week or two she left for the Uk and next i will saw was a call from my aunt that i should go to UK embassy in Lagos Island to make inquiries about what it will take me to get a visa (i was so surprise that this is coming from someone that had been coming in and out of Uk for the past 30yrs) but just to do what she asked i went there and i gave her the feedback(concerning invitation and sponsorer, account details and other things) about the invitation she said our two daughter can file that for me i was happy, but to my surprise she told me to wait for a while that i cant come now that it one party that us ruling and they have strict rule about immigrant and so on, but still promise to see what She can do and that she will get back to me, na so she take do till now. after have relaxed and had used the money i wanted to use for the processing for something else, so last 2yrs my dad died so my aunt started calling me again to sympathize with me and told me that she will fulfill the promise she made to my dad but up till now i still de naija, me wey don de jeje de process my things on my own i dont even first travel comot naija go disvirgin my passport na so she take shatter my dreams.... The Funnies Part She Can Call For Africa And Assure She Is Going To Help But Thats The End You Wont Hear Or See Anything Again... May Be Them De Fear True True Say If You Come You Go Excel Pass Them And You Will Be Dragging BreadWinners With Them..


AND WHY IS IT THAT IT EVERYONE YOU ADVICE THAT IS REGRETTING SO NON OF THEM IS DOING WELL AND STILL ALIVE? AND BESIDES YOU ARE ALSO LIVING IN THE SAME COUNTRY AS THEM WHY THOSE THINGS NO HAPPEN TO YOU ABI NO BE FROM HERE YOU SEF GO THERE ABI SHEY NA THERE DEM BORN YOU? WHY SO MUCH DISCOURAGE FROM YOU STILL WHILE YOU RESIDE THERE COMFORTABLY, LIFE IS ALL ABOUT RISK AND LUCK WHY NOT LET THEM ALSO TRY THEIR LUCKS, AT LEAST YOU ARE LIVING FINE AND STILL ALIVE WHY CANT THEY ALSO BE ALIVE AND LIVE FINE...

You raised many issues. Very nice. I am not trying to convince you but I will say it as I know it & possible reasons from experience.

You were processing to come to UK as what? A professional in a specific skill shortage category, tourist/visitor or student? This is important. Maybe you do not know, but many people reading here will know why. This is a public forum.

Were you gainfully employed in 9ja that 3 years ago? Till now?

You mentioned that she has lived in UK for 30 years and works as a nurse as evidence of living very comfortably. That may be wide off the mark. Nurses are probably the second professionals I know the most. Their pay in UK is not all that. With long years of service & working overtime, they earn decent. But by far not rich. Plus UK is a very expensive place.
The only error your aunt made was to promise things. But maybe she did to save face, appear nice or just genuinely could not redeem it.

Now imagine that you arrived in UK and found that you and your kids have to live in her parlour.
You will be the first to be on phone home telling everyone that aunty London does not even have a room for you and your family.

I remember a close friend years back. A nurse of 9 years experience who deputized for the ward sister frequently. A white girl in her own country o. She had to stay in her colleague's tiny spare room to save money for mortgage deposit. Still her parents had to help out to meet deposit amount.

You said you were surprised your aunt has no idea about papers needed to invite someone. Now see it like this: if she has been there for 30 years, let us assume she has been a British citizen for 15 to 20 years now. Why would she know documents needed to invite? Except if she invited friends or family before. Even then, the documents needed do change. You as a Nigerian citizen can you tell me by heart what documents you need to invite a foreigner to Nigeria?
The embassy issues visas and the documents needed in a particular country is their prerogative.

Your aunt was also very correct to say that immigration rules have tightened. Remember Nigerians used to visit UK without a visa. From around 2001, using excuse of 9/11, immigration laws increasingly got tighter. Even EU citizens in UK right now are not sure of their future status. That would have been unimaginable just two years ago.

As for believing they fear your success, it is a very funny way people see things n 9ja. Look, here nobody gives a damn about what you have or do not have. I have cousins in same country that I have not seen for years. We all talk on phone often. Everyone is damn busy minding his/her own business.

Some of them have enough means to build fine houses in 9ja but not interested, aside a small bungalow for holiday. Others have nice houses there. So they won't be jealous of anyone.

Now to the fate of those I discouraged from coming, I am not in same country with all of them.

And most importantly, many that I advised are ok here. Some have even returned home with their certificates and secured good jobs in 9ja. Because they followed the better route of postgrad studies. The point of my advise has always been to avoid coming unplanned. Like hoping to declare as a refugee. Or just overstay a tourist visa.

The thing is always simple. If you're determined to travel, listen to nobody. But at least you have been forewarned. That should put you in the frame of mind to bear whatever comes your ways once abroad.

As for me, a friend we suffered together froze to death on the street. It could have been me.

I chose to come abroad to study, against advice then. I suffered but survived. But If I knew better, I'd have come as a postgrad, not undergrad.

bebe2:


W ooohh , it's 20yrs

I heard marring a British citizen is 10yrs.

I was surprised o. It was those in the game who told me last year.

I just wanted to politely ask if they have put papers in.

To be honest I do not know about the British marriage one. 95% of people I know used the EU marriage route. Only God knows what will happen to new ones after Brexit.

Even some were failed EU marriage cases. But never officially had legal stay, so did not qualify for 10 years mixed legal-illegal stay.

AreaFada2:

I was surprised o. It was those in the game who told me last year.

I just wanted to politely ask if they have put papers in.

To be honest I do not know about the British marriage one. 95% of people I know used the EU marriage route. Only God knows what will happen to new ones after Brexit.

Even some were failed EU marriage cases. But never officially had legal stay, so did not qualify for 10 years mixed legal-illegal stay.

20yrs is for those living here illegally

5yrs for those holding spouse visa or work permit.

10yrs used to be possible through education but the home office has effectively closed down the long study route

justwise:


20yrs is for those living here illegally

5yrs for those holding spouse visa or work permit.

10yrs used to be possible through education but the home office has effectively closed down the long study route

Wow! 5 years for spouse visa, with a UK spouse? Na wa o. And EU spouse remains 5 years too?

All the other categories were always going to liable to change at anytime.

I could not agree more with the comments posted by AreaFada2.

Traveling abroad (Europe, Australia, Canada, America)is not for the faint of heart. People who are legal residents of these countries struggle to get by how much more, someone without papers. We are not trying to discourage anyone, but everyone's journey will be different. You can come to hustle, and make money and you can come legitimately and manage to get by. The key difference between Nigeria and these countries are the (leaders, structure, infrastructure and genuine spirit). If you come without papers, just brace yourself for some suffering and humiliation!!! It is bound to happen, because people will use your lack of papers to take advantage of you.

About people not wanting to help others back home, until you've walked a mile in a persons shoes, you should not judge any one. It takes years of people to adapt in the respective systems of these countries and some still barely survive. I was in NYC a few years ago waiting for the parking attendant to bring my car and heard some older men in their 50's speaking Yoruba. They were parking attendants; they were lamenting about coming to America, that even with papers they were barely getting by. After 15 minutes I introduced myself to them speaking Yoruba (i'm not Yoruba) and they were kind of shocked. These were men who had amazing careers in Nigeria, but gave it all up to come to America (Architect and Manager at an Insurance company). They said, that they felt like they had no choice, in addition, some of their friends recommended they do some menial jobs when they arrived. I personally told them that they were better off finding a way to get advanced degrees and return to their field of study. They said I was the first person who has recommended that option to them, after 7 years in the USA. I was heartbroken and shocked; however, I understood plight.

The lesson is not to discourage any one from leaving Nigeria, but leaving Nigeria to do what? You need to have a very good plan, because people die in the process of going abroad illegally. If you do make it to one of these countries, brace yourself for the humiliation and suffering that it comes with. All the best and I hope that success finds you wherever you go.

AreaFada2:


You raised many issues. Very nice. I am not trying to convince you but I will say it as I know it & possible reasons from experience.

You were processing to come to UK as what? A professional in specific skill shortage category, tourist/visitor or student? This is important. Maybe you do not know, but many people reading here will know why. This is a public forum.

Were you gainfully employed in 9ja that 3 years ago? Till now?

You mentioned that she has lived in UK for 30 years and works as a nurse as evidence of living very comfortably. That may be wide off the mark. Nurses are probably the second professionals I know the most. Their pay in UK is not all that. With long years of service & working overtime, they earn decent. But by far not rich. Plus UK is a very expensive place.
The only error your aunt made was to promise things. But maybe she did to save face, appear nice or just genuinely could not redeem it.

Now imagine that you arrived in UK and found that you and your kids have to live in her parlour.
You will be the first to be on phone home telling everyone that aunty London does not even have a room for you and your family.

I remember a close friend years back. A nurse of 9 years experience who deputized for the ward sister frequently. A white girl in her own country o. She had to stay in her colleague's tiny spare room to save money for mortgage deposit. Still her parents had to help out to meet deposit amount.

You said you were surprised your aunt has no idea about papers needed to invite someone. Now see it like this: if she has been there for 30 years, let us assume she has been a British citizen for 15 to 20 years now. Why would she know documents needed to invite? Except if she invited friends or family before. Even then, the documents needed do change. You as Nigerian citizen can you tell me by heart what documents you need to invite a foreigner to Nigeria?
The embassy issues visas and the documents needed in a particular country is their prerogative.

Your aunt was also very correct to say that immigration rules have tightened. Remember Nigerians used to visit UK without a visa. From around 2001, using excuse of 9/11, immigration laws increasingly got tighter. Even EU citizens in UK right now are not sure of their future status. That would have been unimaginable just two years ago.

As for believing they fear your success, it is a very funny way people see things n 9ja. Look, here nobody gives a damn about what you have or do not have. I have cousins in same country that I have not seen for years. We all talk on phone often. Everyone is damn busy minding his/her own business.

Some of them have enough means to build fine houses in 9ja but not interested, aside a small bungalow for holiday. Others have nice houses there. So they won't be jealous anyone.

Now to the fate of those I discouraged from coming, I am not in same country with all of them.

And most importantly, many that I advised are ok here. Some have even returned home with their certificates and secured good jobs in 9ja. Because they followed the better route of postgrad studies. The point of my advise has always been to avid coming unplanned. Like hoping to declare as a refugee. Or just overstay a tourist visa.

The thing is always simple. If you're determined to travel, listen to nobody. But at least you have been forewarned. That should put you in the frame of min to bear whatever comes your ways once abroad.

As for me, a friend we suffered froze to death on the street. It could have been me.

I chose to come abroad to study, against advice then. I suffered but survived. But If I knew better, I'd have come as a postgrad, not undergrad.

Tyche:


Damn phucking unnecessary

Very necessary because he made a mockery of a painful bereavement in the family. The first and senior son/child of a family with 3 kids of his own, all still under 11 years old and a wife left behind. When his dad died a few years earlier, he was now virtually responsible for the whole family back in 9ja.
Yet this guy here decided to mock us, that it all never happened. He said that repeatedly. I do not know him from anywhere, he does not know me. Just because he has cheap data to talk anyhow.

lovelygurl:
Op that's not true. You just don't understand. I will never encourage someone above 25 to come to Germany. I mean forget it, you just WON'T cope and will have to settle for less. The language is the big deal here. People think it's very easy to learn a language, they don't even plan and most think Europe/America is a place where the streets are made of gold. Sometimes you have to be EXTREMELY patient, sometimes you will be forced to give up on your dreams etc.

The truth is the younger the better. You don't want to come here and do some jobs you don't want to, just because you can't speak the language and therefore have no other choice

That one!

SixSigma1:


As many people have mentioned to you already, your brother is either lying to you or exaggerating things. No company in the western world gives a dedicated driver to an employee. Not even to the CEO's of the most successful companies in the world. The best they can do is to hire a limo to take him to the airport or to some special occasions or pick him from the airport of from the special occasions AS NEEDED. You also don't have to be at the very top level in the organization for the company to hire a lime to take you to the airport or pick you from the airport. The company I work for does that whenever we travel for business.





The fact that your brother is on K1 visa make me feel strong about the fact that he is either lying to you or exaggerating things when he says he has a dedicated driver from the company. The reason being that I doubt that he is on K1 visa (I may be wrong) because of the type of visa the K1 visa is and the fact that you said he went with his kids. For your information, a K1 visa is a visa issued to the fiancé or fiancée of a United States citizen to enter the United States. A K-1 visa requires a foreigner to marry his or her U.S. citizen petitioner within 90 days of entry, or depart the United States. Once the couple marries, the foreign citizen can adjust status to become a lawful permanent resident (LPR) of the United States (Green Card holder). In addition, before filing for a K-1 Visa a couple must have seen each other in person within 2 years prior to the filing. It is important to collect evidence of having met in person prior to filing and include this evidence with the petition.

Considering all of the above can you clarify the following?
1. How did he get his K1 visa?
2. Because K1 visa is a fiancé or fiancée visa, did he have his kids outside of wedlock (not impossible) and the mother of his kids (who is a US citizen) now filed for him? If this is the case, the kids are automatically US citizens even if they were born in Nigeria since their mom is a US citizen.

lol, you had time to type all this? Mehn Na wa o, no point in answering your questions, I don't owe you further explanations.

I actually want more Nigerians to leave Nigeria so that they can carry their silly customs with them and leave space for those of us who want to build a viable country.

I find it funny how some people are so quick to run away from Nigeria but will not leave behind the practices and beliefs/superstitions that are the reason for their hardship.

Here and naija is the same. If you cant get work out here its wayy worse. Id rather be a slave in naija than here.

If your not starting your Immigration journey with education your in for a life of hardship.

Once i get enough experience and my passport im coming home.

If one has something going here. It's easier to make it here than there

poshestmina:
Very true .I think they don't want anybody coming over to be a burden to them especially friends and not too close relatives .Btw i'm in Nigeria .

NO,many are telling the truth,life is more difficult abroad if you come with visiting visa and refuse to go back,they are trying to avoid the hardship the person will pass through by advising the person not to come

No Place like home, God know why he place you in naija! Who no go no know!!

Travel for visit NOT to stay!....speakinq from experience

Me when someone tries to discourage me from going to Malaysia.

AreaFada2:

I was surprised o. It was those in the game who told me last year.

I just wanted to politely ask if they have put papers in.

To be honest I do not know about the British marriage one. 95% of people I know used the EU marriage route. Only God knows what will happen to new ones after Brexit.

Even some were failed EU marriage cases. But never officially had legal stay, so did not qualify for 10 years mixed legal-illegal stay.

These pple are not smiling oo

Hm, u trust my pple sha