grandstar:


Before going further, let me asj you a few question

Imagine you were going to America:

1. what documents do you need to get a good job?

2. What is the minimum wage of the city you will like to stay?

3. What kind of accommodation will be available to you and how much will it cost?

4. How soon will you get a job and what job do you hope to do there?

5. Where do you see yourself in 10years time in that America ?

6. The state you would like to stay in, is it temperate or tropical and which is your preference?

I don't think all you have listed what matters to to the average Nigerians seeking passage to the West.

Folks just want to come there, work, endure whatever (hardship) there is then (within a decade at most) come back home to their (already remitted) Seven or Eight figure bank account.

Then set up a Big, Medium or Small scale enterprise that would cater for their financial needs till old age.

That's all majority of these "hopefuls" are asking for.
Forget all those nonsense you wrote up there.

We are talking hunger man, HUNGER!

Lexusgs430:


So in essence, nah very strong meat then dey call tinko.....

You got my drift.

Lexusgs430:


We dey Vegas dey boogie down, once the clubbing is over, she might reply your email.....

sisisioge:


So sorry, I don't have access to my PMs. Tot i mentioned it. Pls use sisisioge1@yahoo.com .

I have forgotten what I wrote sef..

Eluwilussit:


You got my drift.

Very sure

factwriter:





I don't think all you have listed matters to to the average Nigerians seeking passage to the West.

Folks just want to come there, work, endure whatever (hardship) there is then (within a decade at most) come back home to their (already remitted) Seven or Eight figure bank account.

Then set up a Big, Medium or Small scale enterprise that would cater for their financial needs till old age.

That's all majority of these "hopefuls" are asking for.
Forget all those nonsense you wrote up there.

We are talking hunger man, HUNGER!

We dey talk hunger, hin dey talk probabilities and future prospects?
No be wen pesin chop belleful, hin dey consider probabilities?

Your article is a bit misleading, why don't you ask this pertinent question "how come when Nigerians ask other Nigerians living in diaspora how to make it there, they always expect them to help in facilitating their moves there and also accommodate them during that process.
Nigerians forget that the reason other Nigerians run away from them is due to the disgusting habits and attitudes of the FOBs (fresh off the boat, a slang used to denote newcomers to the country). I know of someone who lent another his British passport to gain employment, only to be repaid by having his passport used in applying for an 18 thousand pounds loan and then he absconded to Nigeria and was never seen again.

I only have problems with the ones who comes over here without their full papers.

Lexusgs430:

We dey talk hunger, hin dey talk probabilities and future prospects? No be wen pesin chop belleful, hin dey consider probabilities?

Thank you my brother. Who Probabilities EPP

bebe2:
This is getting annoying , how come each time a person is asking for directions on how to travel abroad most pple in diaspora will be discouraging the person.

If it's dat terrible why are u still there?

You enjoy the benefits of living in an organised society, knowing fully well that naija is a difficult place to live.

Are u scared of the competition the new immigrants will bring?

Nigerians in diaspora , what exactly are u afraid off??

If you want to travel Abroad please go on your own. Dont ask anyone. Abroad is not a a beans. I regrated going abroad. I thoughts its easy. I once said the same thing as you and i found my way out and now i know that Nigeria is the sweetest place to live on Earth.

kretoz:
Please pals, I heard health workers make it easier in USA, but my cousin a Dr who married a Nigerian guy who lives abroad and who has been there for 6 yrs came back and she doesn't plan going back, her presence shattered my idea of traveling out, please can someone clarify me cos I don't know how to ask her what happened since she looked malnourished and stressed out

My dear, she has to pass the killer medical exam (board certification/licensing exam actually) called USMILE. It should be called UCRY really.

MOST foreign trained doctors MUST take & pass it. Only few people deemed to be exceptional talent/of expertise get a waiver. A former prof, an acclaimed cancer expert was one of them. He used to work two weeks in UK & two weeks in USA per month. His USA pay doubled the UK pay.

USMILE is a three step/stage licensing exam. The first step alone, the basic science that underpins medical practice is 8 hours long, with around 280 questions in blocks of 1 hour tests. All taken in one day. From the UK, students took the exam previously by end of year 2 in medical school. Being increasingly practice centered, taking it in year 3 is better now.

Step two is a 9 hours exam testing more of clinical skills, communication/interpersonal skills, spoken English, etc. Spoken English can be a major barrier for many foreigners with a heavy accent.

Step 3 takes two days. The final clinical stuff.

The most brilliant people do fail it. Some fail it twice even. A smart girl I know failed the nursing equivalent. An experienced UK nurse.

Good preparation is key.

You said nothing but the truth. Btw, what country did you file for if I may ask queen?

queendoreez:
bebe2, bless your heart for this post.

I know a lot of people who discourage people from moving abroad. Recently i had a chat with 1 of my friends, he's in Singapore, and i discussed with him about migrating abroad, and he was like "You can't make it abroad", "taxes are killing us here", "bills are too much here" etceteras. But the next minute, he's like "I have just built a student hostel off campus in FUTO", "I just wired 300k to my mum last week", "I wire 200k to my girlfriend in Nigeria every week for her make-up" etceteras.

Well, i have made up my mind to migrate out of this "hell" called Nigeria. I have filed in my papers, waiting for my permits. And the last thing that will happen to me is to get discouraged by any Nigerian in diaspora.

Nigerians in diaspora, make una fear God!!!

4dor:


Lmao @ I will never understand. Let me tell you my story.

After loosing my job and was unemployed for a while, I had to drain my savings and got some money from my mum and I moved to the UK for my PG. At the time most people said I should have invested that money in a business but I was convinced that a degree in Software Engineering was what I needed.

When I got there I knew it wasn't going to be easy, but I kept my head up worked in the evenings at M&S did Security on weekends, paying my rent and other bills. I graduated with a good grade, was top 3 in my set and from that point my movement has been forward. So my brother, I understand maybe even more than you or have you ever travelled to a sleepy town for a security job that entails working for 12 straight hours? It was tough, yes but looking back it was the best decision I made for my life.

You did not read my posts previously. I said all over it that PG study route is the way I recommend people to come. That some have even returned to 9ja with certificates, doing good jobs. Are you not just confirming my advice not to come anyhow?

As for me, do not try comparing. If you have worked hard in a meat processing factory all night, and spent the next day from lecture to lab to clinicals, then you can be in a better position to compare. Years long. Longer than MSc or even PhD length.

You came with a BSc in the bag already. We started from the beginning up to the level we got today.

AreaFada2:


My dear, she has to pass the killer medical exam (board certification exam actually) called USMILE. It should be called UCRY really.

MOST foreign trained doctors MUST take & pass it. Only few people deemed to be exceptional talent/of expertise get a waiver. A former prof, an acclaimed cancer expert was one of them. He used to work two weeks in UK & two weeks in USA per month. His USA pay doubled the UK pay.

USMILE is a three step/stage licensing exam. The first step alone, the basic science that underpins medical practice is 8 hours long, with around 280 questions in blocks of 1 hour tests. All taken in one day. From the UK, students take the exam previously by end of year 2 medical school. Being increasingly practice centered, taking it in year 3 is better now.

Step two is a 9 hours exam testing more of clinical skills, communication/interpersonal skills, spoken English, etc. Spoken English can be major barrier for many foreigners with heavy accent.

Step 3 takes two days. The final clinical stuff.

The most brilliant people do fail it. Some fail it twice even. A smart girl I know failed the nursing equivalent. An experienced UK nurse.

Good preparation is key.

i dont know about the US, but in canada..evaluating exams have limited attempts. Usually failing three times at any of the stages would get a candidate barred from ever taking the exams again.

You can Neva understand until you get there cox sometimes dey say "truth is bitter". In 2013 I once travelled to India in which one of my trusted street brother living there promised heaven and earth saying there is work and that he is living fine there..I also had a street brother who told me never to try such country cox he just returned from the place dat tym...but I see him as someone trying to discourage me....until I got there in 2013 to face the music myself which I Neva use up to 3 months b4 I returned back to my country.....Abroad is not a bed of roses as NIGERIA IS BETTER THAN SOME COUNTRIES abroad....Quote me and I will give u more examples cox as am typing to u, this is my second country I will be travelling to and I can say BOLDLY dat Nigeria is still okay BT nt in terms of Security, Stable light and Good roads.....

bebe2:
This is getting annoying , how come each time a person is asking for directions on how to travel abroad most pple in diaspora will be discouraging the person.

If it's dat terrible why are u still there?

You enjoy the benefits of living in an organised society, knowing fully well that naija is a difficult place to live.

Are u scared of the competition the new immigrants will bring?

Nigerians in diaspora , what exactly are u afraid off??

ppl always misconstrue bitter truth for discouragement. when u tell an intending traveler your harsh experience he or she would misunderstand your intentions and adduce discouragement to it. the truth is that anybody that encourages you to come abroad illegally or without a solid work arrangement is your beneficiary, yes it is either he or she is an agent that wants to make money off u or a trafficker( human and drug). this set of people don't care about your well being as long as their selfish interest is massaged.

the problem is not traveling abroad but how you do that or what will u do there. if u can afford to process your traveling document legally no problem because you can secure some job even if it is for the time being and you can travel back if u can't cope with the tough conditions.but it is not the same when you come on board by illegal means because u will be running away from immigration police all the times and u can't get any good work. most times it is the illegal immigrant that end up in crimes; prostitution, stealing, robbery, drug trafficking,etc to survive.

bro is it is not rosy out here. we have seen it all. if you have a good livelihood in nigeria pls keep faith in it, it will turn around with time. police raiding happens here on daily basis. picture a situation where you leave a job or business or sale ur valuable property just come and hustle in abroad and you were caught when you have not gotten anything. what will the picture of live back in nigeria will be? this is why many people jump from high rising buildings and die often here. bro the hustle is real in naija but believe me the hustle is real bad here. many are called but very few are chosen.yes be encouraged by the few who have made it but be discouraged by their experience too. yes it is what it is bro.

[Bangladesh is worst than nigeria.....it will be a fatal mistake u will regret author=femi4 post=56002882]help me ask them....All of them refuse to show me the direction to Bangladesh[/quote]

salford:

i dont know about the US, but in canada..evaluating exams have limited attempts. Usually failing three times at any of the stages would get a candidate barred from ever taking the exams again.

Usually 6 attempts maximum per each stage. Even registration without actually taking the exam can even sometimes count towards the 6 attempts. I do not know if there are very recent changes.

salford:

i dont know about the US, but in canada..evaluating exams have limited attempts. Usually failing three times at any of the stages would get a candidate barred from ever taking the exams again.

I have a family friend in Dublin who was processing the FSW Visa for Canada. She's a nurse. She was worried though. She did mention that if she failed the exam 3 times she would not be allowed to sit it ever again

Am not sure you right. Do you know that you now can't get accommodation in the UK without a valid residence visa. Most of the jobs the illegal migrant use to do in UK are now being done by the Eastern Europeans. Even as a student before you get a year to stay after your Masters programme to see if you can get a job but do you realise that's also no more.
If you live in Niger and you have 500k saved up and looking to job ship you better think twice. That money in Niger with good common sense might be worth 5million or more in 5 Yrs time but nothing in the UK(Detention and depotation).
If you work hard and strive to get to the top of your Career then you got a choice as there are legitimate way of travelling to UK or remaining in Niger.

bebe2:


I totally understand u,

But I do think for some pple traveling could be the only way out.

Now , I don't live in the USA so I can't tell wat illegals go through but in the uk they can get a job not legally though, and the smart ones will work 80 hrs a week quickly buy a small plot , build a one goat for their family back home . And u know once accommodation is settled , life is much easier anywhere in the world.

Getting in illegally does not mean one will never be legal. Once u are in u start to walk the ropes to settlement like millions of illegals before u.

Me am not like that ooo. Anybody who wants to come to Togo, let him holla me.

WellEndowed:


I have a family friend in Dublin who was processing the FSW Visa for Canada. She's a nurse. She was worried though. She did mention that if she failed the exam 3 times she would not be allowed to sit it ever again

Yes...That is why the lady i mentioned in my earlier post is most likely to settle for a job in academia. She failed her licensing exams at the final stage(OSCE) 3 times. She spent like 1year preparing for each stage and thousands of dollars down the drain too. Those examiners have no joy.

salford:

Yes...That is why the lady i mentioned in my earlier post is most likely to settle for a job in academia. She failed her licensing exams at the final stage(OSCE) 3 times. She spent like 1year preparing for each stage and thousands of dollars down the drain too. Those examiners have no joy.

I hear the exam is a tough one...and one can only sit it in Canada.

I just told her to jejely wait until she gets her stay in Dublin then apply. Atleast she could always go back if things don't work out for her in Canada. She can't see herself doing anything but nursing

I will sincerely tell you from my own point of view that it is neither selfishness nor wickedness if i advise you to think twice before leaving Nigeria.
I am a legal resident in the US and i always do sincerely tell anybody that wants to come here to have your plans before you come here.The planning should include:
1.Accomodation-Where would you be living when you come here?A studio accomodation meant for maximum two people in New York is going for minimum of $1000 per month.Thats why we have many homeless people around having no where to sleep.
2.Employment-For you to work legally here you must have employment authorisation card,if you are coming here with visitor"s visa,you are not qualified to work,you can only work illegally.
Many of the entry level jobs especially if you are not a certified professional or a skilled worker attracts between $10 and $13 per hour and you might not be getting more than 30 hours per week.After tax you might not be taking more than $300 per week.
The lucrative jobs here are mainly those in the healthcare and I.T
You can also make good money here as a cdl certified driver(truck drivers) but to do the training here the cheapest you can get it here is $5000.
Artisans are not doing badly here too but its cheaper to acquire these skills in Nigeria.
3.Misconception-Some people do have that misconception about making money here even to the extent that some invest as much as 1 million naira or even more to procure visa thinking that they will get the money back immediately they get here.The simple truth is that just like in Lagos
or Abuja,money does not grow on trees here.
Summary-Your brother working with Burlington earning $9/hr in the US telling you things are not easy over here is like a man selling gala inside traffic in Lagos telling his brother in the village that things are not easy.
Some are quite comfortable here in the US just like in Lagos and Abuja too but the question is what is the percentage.Dont forget that if the gala seller goes home during christmas,he will have enough money to spend from the all year savings for that particular purpose creating the impression in the minds of his villagers that he has arrived same thing goes for that yankee man that comes to Nigeria.
The sky is big enough to contain as many birds as possible but you have to look before you leap.

Dont mind Nigerians, many of them will never hear. Until they get into a tight spot. Nothing bad coming to the U.S or abroad if you're 1. Legal 2. Doing a job befitting of your degree. But when I see someone who finished well in school and was working in Stanbic bank in Nigeria, resigning his job and selling all his property to come to the U.S to come and be working a menial job, then bringing his wife over again to join him in the suffering, it really really breaks my heart. The best way to come to the U.S like someone already said is through school and better still through postgrad with paid assistantship so you dont end up with student loans(atleast for the U.S). That is our way of f**king with the system right now.

specialmati:
i want to travel to germany for masters pls what are my chance of making it there.my pastor said i should use that money and stabliz my business,my friend in uk said it not worth it.pls any advice.i wish to marry this year before going

Use the money to grow and make more money from your business. Whats the point of marriage if you are not financially stable

I think the fear of adding to the numbers of criminals coming in from Nigeria is the basic reason for the fear !