TheStronghold:


Igbos have brought this on themselves by playing busy body with every other tribe. I'm just laughing at the level of karma coming to bite them in the ass. It's HILARIOUS.

This is not busy body but inferiority complex exhibited via land grabbing antics. While their decision on here does not hold water, these foot soldiers have a way of insulting your heritage. They just fashion a thread and lay claims to your ancestral home and claim that they are better than everyone in the zoo while shouting that they want to control their destiny.

Sometimes ago, it was Urhoboland they sat down to dissect, then later Edo, the same Edo they have been calling a cursed state. Now Port Harcourt. They have left Lagos since the chances of physically moving Lagos is too thin. This isn't busy body, this is plain insult.

Kc3000:


No problem at all. Next time you hear there's rioting in Kaduna, assemble all your yeriba friends and families and head over there...let's see if they don't sever your precious cone head from your body.

No! not sever but separate his precious cone head from his body.

GodIsBiafran:


This Yoruba man you have come again. Must you comment on EVERYTHING? Why don't you just leave Igbo matters for Igbos? Are you cursed?!

Their usual line.
Please post something cerebral without screaming Yoruba or Afonja.
Anyone against your biafran delusion is Yoruba.

You see why we will never accept your by force attache with us?
How do you force us to join your biafran fantasy and even claiming our lands without you knowing us?

When we talk we are Afonjas, so we have no right to talk.
You are the supreme one that will sit in one enlcave in SE and tell us our ethnicity even claiming our land.
No worry. Port Harcourt treatment part 2 is loading.

Sanchez01:

This is not busy body but inferiority complex exhibited via land grabbing antics. While their decision on here does not hold water, these foot soldiers have a way of insulting your heritage. They just fashion a thread and lay claims to your ancestral home and claim that they are better than everyone in the zoo while shouting that they want to control their destiny.

Sometimes ago, it was Urhoboland they sat down to dissect, then later Edo, the same Edo they have been calling a cursed state. Now Port Harcourt. They have left Lagos since the chances of physically moving Lagos is too thin. This isn't busy body, this is plain insult.

But you are wrong on your generalization. The op was talking based on what Pat Utomi said. This is not about IPOB this time, it is about profs opinion about Port Harcourt.

Ekinematics:



Their usual line.
Please post something cerebral without screaming Yoruba or Afonja.
Anyone against your biafran delusion is Yoruba.

You see why we will never accept your by force attache with us?
How do you force us to join your biafran fantasy and even claiming our lands without you knowing us?

When we talk we are Afonjas, so we have no right to talk.
You are the supreme one that will sit in one enlcave in SE and tell us our ethnicity even claiming our land.
No worry. Port Harcourt treatment part 2 is loading.

How do you mean Port Harcourt treatment part 2? When was part one played out? Please, do mind expatiating?

Ikology:

But you are wrong on your generalization. The op was talking based on what Pat Utomi said. This is not about IPOB this time, it is about profs opinion about Port Harcourt.

He wasn't directly responding to Utomi's statement but to the comments made by supposed IPOB youths on this thread.

I can easily EDIT that your Wikipedia article and REPLACE that so called "Edo Ikwere" and turn it to Hausa Fulani.

Do you want me to do it now?

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chrisxxx:
My erudite Prof. I envy your height in the world of economics. This is a subject you know too well. If we were to tell ourselves the truth you will be a permanent adviser on economics to AGIP(Any Government In Power). However nobody is an encyclopaedia or cornucopia of knowledge, no wonder you may not be too good in Geography. Port Harcourt is located outside the geographical entities occupied by the Igbos. They acquired from the indigenous settlers mainly the Ikwerres any landed property they own in Port Harcourt.
You may ask me, 'Who are the Ikwerres?'
I have personally asked people, my dad whom I think would tell me the gospel truth about my ethnic identity, my grandmother who was an Igbo woman if Ikwerre were at any time considered Igbos. My grandmum told me Ikwerres are not Igbos. She however said they shared a lot in common. My dad said they were never Igbos before and after the war. He continued that before the war the intimidation of the Igbos in Port Harcourt was so much that the average Ikwerre man risk being killed to disagree he was an Igbo man. He mentioned prominent Ikwerre men killed by the Igbos to serve as scapegoats or deterrent to anyone who would disagree.
You may take this testimony with a pinch of salt. I would crave your indulgence to also peruse below how the British found Southern Nigeria Protectorate more than 100 years ago. Please pay attention to the languages spoken in Southern Nigeria. For emphasis sake you'll find Ibo language along side Ikwerre.

Southern Nigeria Protectorate
Protectorate of the British Empire 1900–1914

Ensign Badge
Anthem-God Save the Queen
Southern Nigeria (red)
British possessions in Africa (pink)
1913
Capital Lagos (administrative centre from 1906)
Languages English (official)
Yoruba, Igbo, Ibibio, Edo Ikwerre, Etche, Ijaw languages widely spoken
Religion Christianity, Odinani, Yoruba religion, Islam, African traditional religion
Government Constitutional monarchy
Monarch
• 1900–1901 Victoria
• 1901–1910 Edward VII
• 1910–1914 George V
High Commissioner
• 1900–1904 Ralph Moor
• 1904–1906 Walter Egerton
Governor
• 1906–1912 Walter Egerton
• 1912–1914 Frederick Lugard
Historical era New Imperialism
• Established 1 January 1900
• Disestablished 1 January 1914
Area[/s]
• 1913 206,888 km² (79,880 sq mi)
Population
• 1911 est. 7,855,749
Currency Pound sterling (1900–13)
British West African pound (1913–14)
Preceded by Succeeded by
Niger Coast Protectorate
Royal Niger Company
Benin Empire
Oyo Empire
Aro Confederacy
Kingdom of Nri
Wukari Federation

Nigeria Protectorate
source:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Nigeria_Protectorate
mynd44 lalasticlala

Tonyebacarcanista. Can you prove to the public here that Okrikas are part owners of Port Harcourt? ? ? ? ?

Ekinematics:



Their usual line.
Please post something cerebral without screaming Yoruba or Afonja.
Anyone against your biafran delusion is Yoruba.

You see why we will never accept your by force attache with us?
How do you force us to join your biafran fantasy and even claiming our lands without you knowing us?

When we talk we are Afonjas, so we have no right to talk.
You are the supreme one that will sit in one enlcave in SE and tell us our ethnicity even claiming our land.
No worry. Port Harcourt treatment part 2 is loading.

hahahaha! i wan go sapele buy urhobo goat.


Rivers is firmly Ikwere and they are igbo. Thank God for the creation of Bayelsa.

Next will be Anioma State.

PFRB:
Tonyebacarcanista. Can you prove to the public here that Okrikas are part owners of Port Harcourt? ? ? ? ?

If you are from Rivers or you've lived in Rivers State then you should know or have heard of Borokiri down to the whole of Town, Marine Base, Koko-ama, Amadi-ama, Tere-ama, Ozuboko, Abuloma(mixed with Abua), Okuru-ama, Okujagwu and Azuabie, then you won't be asking this questions.

Ndiofe:



hahahaha! i wan go sapele buy urhobo goat.


Rivers is firmly Ikwere and they are igbo. Thank God for the creation of Bayelsa.

Next will be Anioma State.

This one is seeking for attention.

Ekinematics:




This one is seeking for attention.

urhobo goat na him i talk. sapele urhobo goat, i go buy.

Ekinematics:



If you are from Rivers or you've lived in Rivers State then you should know or have heard of Borokiri down to the whole of Town, Marine Base, Koko-ama, Amadi-ama, Tere-ama, Ozuboko, Abuloma(mixed with Abua), Okuru-ama, Okujagwu and Azuabie, then you won't be asking this questions.

Even eleme these days is called Port harcourt, Ikwerres are not igbo, dey are of edo decent

nengibo:

Even eleme this days is called Port harcourt, Ikwerres are not igbo, dey are of edo decent

Where their Edo name now?

Ogogoro drinker?

Even Igbos are suppose to be Edo too, yet Benin is still the smallest kingdom in Nigeria.

U get head so?

Ndiofe:


Where their Edo name now?

Ogogoro drinker?

Even Igbos are suppose to be Edo too, yet Benin is still the smallest kingdom in Nigeria.

U get head so?

This is the identity Ikwerre claim, to be of edo decent dats why no igbo can understand Ikwerre language, their culture & pronunciation is not igbo and is ijoid, thats why they are an ethnic group of their own not igbo

nengibo:

[s]This is the identity Ikwerre claim, to be of edo decent dats why no igbo can understand Ikwerre language, their culture & pronunciation is not igbo and is ijoid, thats why they are an ethnic group of their own not igbo[/s]

go back 2 school.

nengibo:

Even eleme these days is called Port harcourt, Ikwerres are not igbo, dey are of edo decent

That's another lecture I'll give these land grabbing Igbos.
99.9% of them cannot even differentiate Port Harcourt from Port Harcourt City.
They'll sit at home either in their barren landlocked enclave of SE or in their major escape route(Lagos) to civilization and be writing rubbish about things they know nothing about.

Ndiofe:


go back 2 school.

I doubt if you have even gone to school.
You guys claim to be Jews, we didn't say anything, neither did we dispute it.
We are humans and know that every human has the right to his origin.
You ibos don't even have a well documented history that has been proven to be true. Today you are the lost Jews, tomorrow you are something else.
Others have their own history well documented and you without 1 is coming to dispute it.

What nonsense

nengibo:

This is the identity Ikwerre claim, to be of edo decent dats why no igbo can understand Ikwerre language, their culture & pronunciation is not igbo and is ijoid, thats why they are an ethnic group of their own not igbo

Madam Nengi, you can lie eh. So Igbo cannot understand Ikwerre when they speak, according to you. nye buzu like you

kropotkin11:
I like your style, you dont even see the need to sugar coat it You are a confirmed, unrepentant land grabber

Why do some tribe in Nigeria always dreaming of grabbing other people's land. It's like Yoruba people claiming that Edo and Delta states are Yorubaland just because these two states were part of the defunct Western region.

This nonsense should stop

blues20:

Madam Nengi, you can lie eh. So Igbo cannot understand Ikwerre when they speak, according to you. nye buzu like you

Igbo and Ikwerre are not intelligble.

bakynes:
We must understand something here that you can't force people to identify themselves with you. Egun and Itshekiri people bear Yoruba names but they are not Yorubas just as Ikwerres bear Igbo names but claim they are not Igbos.

I don't know of the Igbos but I know before the invasions by the colonial masters there was nothing like Yoruba but each sub group were living separately. The word Yoruba is a unifying factor to bring all the similar sub groups that speak the same language and had the same culture together as one. The Eguns and Itshekiri today are not under that umbrella called Yoruba but are very similar to the rest of us called Yoruba's.

Likewise Hausa,Fulani and Kanuris and Gwaris are all similar in culture, language and tradition.

your narrative is entirely false and wrong.

Ikwerre bears igbo names and practice igbo culture.ikwerre are christians and are located in igbo land.the name ikwerre mean do you agree in igbo.ikwerres have the same structural physical appearance with igbos. ikwerre language is a dialect of the igbo language.

nengibo:

Igbo and Ikwerre are not intelligble.

You don't know what you are saying. Its like saying Izzi and Ngwa are not intelligible. How do you say come in Ikwerre? State it here so everybody will see....

Ekinematics:



If you are from Rivers or you've lived in Rivers State then you should know or have heard of Borokiri down to the whole of Town, Marine Base, Koko-ama, Amadi-ama, Tere-ama, Ozuboko, Abuloma(mixed with Abua), Okuru-ama, Okujagwu and Azuabie, then you won't be asking this questions.

I don't want to discuss with you on this because it may degenerate into insults and abuses and the whole purpose will be lost. I have seen that Tonye has an erudite touch is his discussions and I feel the public can learn from him hence my question. Personally I may have one or two lines to add. I just want a clean and scholarly discussion.

blues20:

You don't know what you are saying. Its like saying Izzi and Ngwa are not intelligible. How do you say come in Ikwerre? State it here so everybody will see....

Va

TonyeBarcanista:
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Both Koniju and Tuboniju are IJAWS but Tuboniji also consist of ADOPTED slaves that we took as ours especially their women.

A slave has been adopted, if he/she wants to return to his/her place, the option is to return back. No slave is greater than the sons and daughters of the soil.

Ijaws are magnanimous and we have human dignity, hence we see adoptees as our own.

No adopted child can Carry the fortunes of the Foster parents to that of the biological parents. it is never done anywhere. When you are adopted you take the identity of the one that adopt you else you return to where you were picked.

As for PH, I have no business discussing it more than what I already posted.

Meanwhile, stop mentioning me please, I don't appreciate your mentions.

Thanks

U made no sense. If PDP is relying on ignoramus like u to reclaim their faded glory then PDP will not rule Nigeria anytime soon.

How dare u refer to Tuboniji igbo natives of Okirika as slaves? Do u have any prove that the Koniju were not also slaves?

U place emphasizes on Tuboniji women like Koniju dont have women of their own.

U almost sound like an Afonja lusting after igbo women.

Tuboniji and Koniju are both settlers on Okirika island. There are no son of the soil. There are no adoptee or foster parents. The same right the Koniju have on the island does the Tuboniji have on the island.

We refer to dat in legal terms as Joint Ownership.

I really worry about the way u were throwing the word slave around wen refering to the Tuboniji.

I hope the lastng peace between the Igbo and Ijaw and the record of peaceful coexistence is not about to be permanently broken over nothing.

U cannot be referring to a people as slave like that, wat makes them slave and u(Koniju) not a slave or criminals?(I need to know)

I will not insult Ijaw people becos of an idiot like u but i will strongly advice u that u tread carefully.

The igbo nation are a formidable force of reckoning. Don't aggravate or provoke us into anger.

Dont mistake our gesture of good will, forgiveness and friendship for weakness.

Respect a people if u want to ur own people to be respected, that is y even the Itsekiri that are half ijaw do not ever want to be identified or associated with the ijaw. U keep fighting everybody. hisssssss!

The soup never ready and the internal fig has started

pchukwudi:
I can easily EDIT that your Wikipedia article and REPLACE that so called "Edo Ikwere" and turn it to Hausa Fulani.

Do you want me to do it now?

[s]

Is that still in a bid to forcefully make Ikwerre Igbo? We are not you. Surprisingly in Rivers State Etche speak more Igbo than Ikwerre but you dont care about them because they do not have Port Harcourt.

nengibo:

Va

Va = Emolga. Bia = Ikwerre, Obio/Akpor and Rebisi......

its not pronounced 'va' but 'bva'. Bva henm, as in 'come here', same as 'bia apa' use by Rebisi people. In Igbo you say bia eba\ebe\nga\ah....' depending on the dialect you are coming from. Ikwerre do not speak one dialect, so you ain't get a case here Mrs. Nengi.

hammer6:


U made no sense. If PDP is relying on ignoramus like u to reclaim their faded glory then PDP will not rule Nigeria anytime soon.

How dare u refer to Tuboniji igbo natives of Okirika as slaves? Do u have any prove that the Koniju were not also slaves?

U place emphasizes on Tuboniji women like Koniju dont have women of their own.

U almost sound like an Afonja lusting after igbo women.

Tuboniji and Koniju are both settlers on Okirika island. There are no son of the soil. There are no adoptee or foster parents. The same right the Koniju have on the island does the Tuboniji have on the island.

We refer to dat in legal terms as Joint Ownership.

I really worry about the way u were throwing the word slave around wen refering to the Tuboniji.

I hope the lastng peace between the Igbo and Ijaw and the record of peaceful coexistence is not about to be permanently broken over nothing.

U cannot be referring to a people as slave like that, wat makes them slave and u(Koniju) not a slave or criminals?(I need to know)

I will not insult Ijaw people becos of an idiot like u but i will strongly advice u that u tread carefully.

The igbo nation are a formidable force of reckoning. Don't aggravate or provoke us into anger.

Dont mistake our gesture of good will, forgiveness and friendship for weakness.

Respect a people if u want to ur own people to be respected, that is y even the Itsekiri that are half ijaw do not ever want to be identified or associated with the ijaw. U keep fighting everybody. hisssssss!

Oh God Almighty!!! What a beautiful and perfect post!!! I wish I can give you a million likes!!!! I couldn't have said it better.

GodIsBiafran:


Oh God Almighty!!! What a beautiful and perfect post!!! I wish I can give you a million likes!!!! I couldn't have said it better.

TonyeBarcanista a Koniju(fisherman) whom is supposedly from okirika/ogubolo and abuloma keep dishing out false and malicious remarks about his brothers the Tuboniji(Trader/Farmer) from okirika/ogubolo and abuloma.

This calls for great concern becos if not checked could lead to tensions and hostilities.

The evidential fact on the ground that cannot be disputed are that Okirika have two first languages, kirike and Igbo. Many are bilingual. They are a healthy mix of Ijaw and Igbo. Though they all identify as Okirika rather than either ethnic group.

Okrika is a town founded on migration. The Ijaw migrant to Okirika are predominantly married to Igbo women. They co-exist alongside the Igbos peacefully.

Okirika is part of a much wider region called abuloma, though their languages are different. Certain parts of Abuloma falls into Port Harcourt. (mainly the water side) This is partly due to City expansion moved more towards Ikwerre areas delibrately excluding Okirika.

Okirika has a sizable population in Port Harcourt sprinkled in the south.

Clearly, any further expansion should incorporate Okirika island fully into Port Harcourt.

One thing that is certain is u cannot talk or mention Port Harcourt without mentioning Ikwerre and Okirika(Abuloma). The Ikwere have delibrately kept Okirika out of Port Harcourt based on fear that they will attempt to claim Igweocha as their ancestral land.

That fact was confirmed here by TonyeBarcanista claim that the entire Port Harcourt is ijaw land.

Alfred Diete-Spiff an Ijaw man disposed Igbo of their properties after the war becos they feared igbo dominated the City whilst many of them still lived on boat floating on water. Many ijaw in Port Harcourt are still living in houses taken from the igbos till this day.

It is not so much about the house but the land that the houses were built on have also changed ownership from Igbo to Ijaw.

TonyeBarcanista:
The status of Portharcourt is not what is up for contest.

Though the Okrika clan of Ijaw nation (which I belong to) own the Southern part of the city without dispute, there is still agitation that the entire PH belongs to Okrika, including the section occupied by Diobu people of Ikwerre, which was allegedly called "Igweocha". That however is a contest between the Ikwerre and Okrika clan of Ijaw nation.

Notwithstanding, it is out of place and inappropriate for anyone to think it is an Igbo city or any other tribe. Specifically, the Southern part is never up for contest.

It is funny however that the Okrikas are Ijaws, while the Ikwerre that is the other Party in the dispute claim to be a distinct group. I am not aware that the Igbos are laying claim, whether formally or otherwise to the city, except their claim is through the Ikwerre angle, which is the business between the Ikwerre and the Igbo.

Bridget95:
your narrative is entirely false and wrong.
Ikwerre bears igbo names and practice igbo culture.ikwerre are christians and are located in igbo land.the name ikwerre mean do you agree in igbo.ikwerres have the same structural physical appearance with igbos. ikwerre language is a dialect of the igbo language.

Sister - thank you for exposing that charlatan. Yorubas are allowed to have dialects but Igbos are not. That is why I keep saying all these anti-Igbos are Yorubas pretending otherwise.