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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:11am On May 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


If you guys take the HDI of Southern Nigeria alone, do you think Ghana or Kenya will come any close?

Nigeria is too complex. This is the reason why many Southern Nigerians are fighting for the division, seccesion and restructuring of Nigeria.

Imagine if Ghana was one country with Burkina faso and Mali. Or Kenya was one country with Somalia and Sudan. Do you think you guys would have progressed as you have now??

You can't measure HDI by choosing the most developed region of a country alone. How about we compare the HDI of Southern Nigeria with the HDI of selected Kenyan counties such as Kiambu and Nakuru?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 8:17am On May 25, 2017
Muafrika2:


Yep. I was visiting Tana River years ago. They are mostly dark. Like other nilotes, but for the Somali looks. They share the county with pokomos. The women walk around with knives - I think its because of the tribal wars
grin

The knives thing is a Cushitic cultural thing. In rural Djibouti and Somalia, people legit walk around with daggers hanging off their belts of tied to their sleeves. You shouldn't be afraid.

1 - Beja from Sudan/Egypt
2 - Afar men (Eri/Ethio/Djibouti)
3 - Afar women (Eri/Ethio/Djibouti)
4 - Somali men

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:18am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

When was Auxum founded? I need to school these Somalis who claim Auxum cool
The absolute data for the rise of Axum isn't known, but Axum was first mentioned in a document in the mid first century. Because of this, it's agreed Axum was established in the first century A.D.

Before Axum, there was a great civilization called Damat. It was formed in 10 century BC. It territory was in modern day Eritrea and northern Ethiopia. It's thought that the civilization of Ethiopia was 3,000 years, but new evidences are now pointing in that it's rather 10,000 years.

Damat and Axum wasn't established by Sabaeans(southern Yemenite), rather by the locals Agaw, Semites and other peoples. Geez language wasn't driven from Sabaean, but rather from the local Semitic languages. Other Semites were living in Eritrea and Ethiopia as early as 2000 BC before the coming of Sabaeans. Even after the arrival of Sabaeans, there influence was limited to few localities and disappeared after few centuries. But Geez alphabet was driven from the script of Sabaeans.

The original inhabitants of Eritrea and northern Ethiopia before the coming of Semitic speakers in 2000s BC were majority Agew ppl.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iamord(m): 8:20am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

When was that? Hahahahahaha
check this.. Nigeria got it's Independence in 1960 and in less than ten years was thrown into civil war. meaning that even before the Independence Nigeria has not been stable. the war stopped 1970, then we had the likes of fela surface. the man with the truth in his mouth. and you know what? from that time on he had no record of singing when Nigeria better, it has always been the same thing. Its evident the government has succeeded in playing the populace because many are ignorant and divided on tribal, cultural and ethnic line's

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 8:21am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

When was Auxum founded? I need to school these Somalis who claim Auxum cool

We don't claim Axum. Somalis only claim Punt.

You saw that one troll that I called out and now all Somalis claim Axum? Relax yourself.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 8:24am On May 25, 2017
ArtanK:


We don't claim Axum. Somalis only claim Punt.

You saw that one troll that I called out and now all Somalis claim Axum? Relax yourself.
No, this was a Somali friend of mine lol. Relax no harm.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:26am On May 25, 2017
mtis:

An thats whats wrong with Nigerians..You dont want to improve your HDI.You keep of talking of Higer GDP blah blah blah..get real..the whole essence of life is to live a comfortable life.No less no more...even if you take man to mars or pluto it does not matter as long as your people are living a pathetic life. period
So are your people as is very evident despite the desperate efforts made here to portray the opposite.You can grow your economy with your service industry with the enviable position you occupy in east africa.That's what small countries with little natural resources do.(Holland,finland,singapore,etc).You can't continue selling coffee to import Nescafe.Same goes for all African countries except most of north africa and south africa.HDI wise you are not much better than Nigeria with its various crises and divisions.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 8:27am On May 25, 2017
vaxx:
there is a diffrence between 60million population and 80million population. over 20million population diffrence. That is huge if i will say. Yet germany still outperform uk in every area of development. Population itself is a resources. You need to note it.
Maybe I'm looking at it different. I perceive both as populous with a smaller gap than the African Countries being compared.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by iamord(m): 8:29am On May 25, 2017
Just30:
it's the reason why today, Ghanaians hardly declare their wealth. It's very difficult knowing who owns what company, in Ghana.
and it's very bad you know cos a lot of youths and outsides don't know about this great pursuits done by Ghanaians. if we fail to tell our story someone else will tell it for us. and of course it will be concorted.. he really brought down the entepreneurial​ spirit it of well meaning Ghanaians. I considered it that he was afraid​ that those people with their immense wealth and infulence can get him over thrown and killed. and this still goes on till Today
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 8:29am On May 25, 2017
ArtanK:


The knives thing is a Cushitic cultural thing. In rural Djibouti and Somalia, people legit walk around with daggers hanging off their belts of tied to their sleeves. You shouldn't be afraid.

1 - Beja from Sudan/Egypt
2 - Afar men (Eri/Ethio/Djibouti)
3 - Afar women (Eri/Ethio/Djibouti)
4 - Somali men



The Afar men are hot angry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 8:29am On May 25, 2017
Hati13:

The absolute data for the rise of Axum isn't known, but Axum was first mentioned in a document in the mid first century. Because of this, it's agreed Axum was established in the first century A.D.

Before Axum, there was a great civilization called Damat. It was formed in 10 century BC. It territory was in modern day Eritrea and northern Ethiopia. It's thought that the civilization of Ethiopia was 3,000 years, but new evidences are now pointing in that it's rather 10,000 years.

Damat and Axum wasn't established by Sabaeans(southern Yemenite), rather by the locals Semiticized Agaw and other peoples. Geez language and alphabet wasn't driven from Sabaean, but rather from the local Semitic languages.

The original inhabitants of Eritrea and northern and central Ethiopia after 3rd millennium BC were Agaw and Afar peoples.

Axum's history is fascinating. They conquered southern Yemen and large parts of modern day Saudi Arabia. Whenever Arabs get mouthy, I hit them with the Axumites ruling their land and they're left speechless grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 8:34am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

No, this was a Somali friend of mine lol. Relax no harm.

Either your friend is what I call a Horn Afro-centrist or he/she is not well-versed in Somali history undecided

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:35am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

Blood of Jesus I can't visit Kenya. I'm afraid of animals angry

Lol, animals are confined to parks and game reserves and game ranches. Most of Kenya is basically just like most of Nigeria. It's not like you'll be walking alone and come face to face with a lion.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:40am On May 25, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Yes the y are bantu origin people. Swahili is in this strange category called Niger Congo. Those are academic definitions. Nobody goes around claiming Niger Congo identity. In Africa, many people identify themselves with their tribes first, religion second and football third!
grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 8:40am On May 25, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Lol, animals are confined to parks and game reserves and game ranches. Most of Kenya is basically just like most of Nigeria. It's not like you'll be walking alone and come face to face with a lion.
Lol I was joking
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:42am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

Wait how did Oromos sell slaves?
During their great population movement from mid 16th century to early 18th century from central Ethiopia to all direction of Ethiopia and northern Kenya, they conquered many lands and assimilated the locals who said, yes. Those who said, no were either their organs mutated, massacred or sold as slaves. I don't know if the magnitude of their slave trade can be as the Abyssinians and Adals(Harar, Somalia and Afar), but they sold many slaves.

Because of their great assimilation strategies, almost all the Oromos nowadays are either mixed or other ethnic peoples who were forced to lose their original identity and been Oromonized. That is why they became now the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia and one of in Africa. The Oromos are the most mixed people in Ethiopia if not in Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:52am On May 25, 2017
ArtanK:


Axum's history is fascinating. They conquered southern Yemen and large parts of modern day Saudi Arabia. Whenever Arabs get mouthy, I hit them with the Axumites ruling their land and they're left speechless grin
Right strategy wenedem. wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 8:53am On May 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


Nigeria's infrastructural development is only somehow evenly-spread because northerners have so much power politically in Nigeria unlike northerners in GH.


Southern Nigeria will always beat Southern Ghana or at least equal Southern Ghana because in Ghana, the muslim northerners are minorities, so, there is no way their backwardness will affect Southern Ghana compared to Nigeria where the muslim north seem to be the majority.

Take Nigerian youth literacy rate for instance, the national average is estimated at 72%, but do you know that in all the Southern states it is about 95%?

National extreme poverty rate in Nigeria is about 33%, but do u know that a state like Lagos state has only about 5% or less living in extreme poverty?

Can you see the drastic difference?

This is exactly the way other index statistics are affected as soon as you average Nigeria.
So, if you use any national index statistic of Nigeria to judge southern Nigeria, you would be making the most terrible mistake.
The gap is too wide.

Is there any part of Southern Ghana with 5% or below living in extreme poverty??
Ghana north are not sideline. ghana former president is a northerner. the current vice president is also a northerner. Some powerful position are assign to the northerner. Though there is still diffrence. But that gap is closing sincerly.

ghana is a christain dominated country but she has a huge presence of islam infact the diffrence is not up to 10percent according to wikipedia report. considering the high birth rate in zongo community that gap may closed soon. Another interesting things to be noted is the zongo community in greater accra,eastern ,region,central region are also backward in education and social development compare to accra mainstream. This is what me my self dont get. Most everything backwardness associated with the northerner?

am not even using the national index. i try to compare what will be consider in ghana as a southern part assumimg she is a federal state compare to what is on ground in nigeria. the gap still show ghana will likely outperform nigeria ... Take this word from me. Nigeria north is more developed than ghana north.

Greater accra is the most developed region in ghana. i dont have the statistics. poverty line may range from 10 percent to 5 percent.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:54am On May 25, 2017
nemesis2u:


by your slums i meant slums all over the world

your friends have their own opinion , i cant comment on that , i was in US , i found many places there dirty too. no great deal

the fact is, u will find shiitt if ur looking for shhitt wink wink wink

Indians working in Kenya will always praise Kenya , that is a basic rule to be followed by a well mannered guest in a host country.

if u guys r looking to compare countries best way to do is by comparing

1. education standards and facilities

2. manufacturing capabilities and facilities

3. scientific and engineering R & D

4. military capabilities and assets

5. space related capabilities and achievements

6. transportation/logistics assets, infrastructure and capabilities

7. power generation and related manufacturing capabilities

8. ship building capabilities and infrastructure

9. aviation related capabilities and infrastructure

10. agriculture related capabilities and infrastructure

etc based on official sources like UN data , internationally reputed analysis and ratings bodies etc not blogs, small time news/electronic media and youtube videos

posting pics of high rise buildings is not a yard stick to compare countries , including hearsay like "my friend told me this" etc grin

dont mind me i was just browsing through and having a good time in general, its fun grin





You're late to the party! We did that multiple times. They all saw the leader but pretended not to understand and changed the topic while they screarmed even louder.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:55am On May 25, 2017
ArtanK:


We don't claim Axum. Somalis only claim Punt.

You saw that one troll that I called out and now all Somalis claim Axum? Relax yourself.
If you guys claim Punt, then you must have been in present day Sudan, Eritrea and northern Ethiopia back then. Am I correct?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:57am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

The Afar men are hot angry

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 9:00am On May 25, 2017
Hati13:

During their great population movement from mid 16th century to early 18th century from central Ethiopia to all direction of Ethiopia and northern Kenya, they conquered many lands and assimilated the locals who said, yes. Those who said, no were either their organs mutated, massacred or sold as slaves. I don't know if the magnitude of their slave trade can be as the Abyssinians and Adals(Harar, Somalia and Afar), but they sold many slaves.

Because of their great assimilation strategies, almost all the Oromos nowadays are either mixed or other ethnic peoples who were forced to lose their original identity and been Oromonized. That is why they became now the largest ethnic group in Ethiopia and one of in Africa. The Oromos are the most mixed people in Ethiopia if not in Africa.
Wow! And people claim Habeshas are. They sold the slaves to Arabs? Then Abyssanians came in and started selling Oromos as slaves? Did they so it for revenge then?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by fanficgirl(f): 9:01am On May 25, 2017
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Give me all of them please cry. Especially the second and last

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:06am On May 25, 2017
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Nowenuse:


If you guys take the HDI of Southern Nigeria alone, do you think Ghana or Kenya will come any close?

Nigeria is too complex. This is the reason why many Southern Nigerians are fighting for the division, seccesion and restructuring of Nigeria.

Imagine if Ghana was one country with Burkina faso and Mali. Or Kenya was one country with Somalia and Sudan. Do you think you guys would have progressed as you have now??
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by bigigh: 9:06am On May 25, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:07am On May 25, 2017
Nowenuse:


If you guys take the HDI of Southern Nigeria alone, do you think Ghana or Kenya will come any close?

Nigeria is too complex. This is the reason why many Southern Nigerians are fighting for the division, seccesion and restructuring of Nigeria.

Imagine if Ghana was one country with Burkina faso and Mali. Or Kenya was one country with Somalia and Sudan. Do you think you guys would have progressed as you have now??


Did you just say that
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 9:08am On May 25, 2017
Hati13:

If you guys claim Punt, then you must have been in present day Sudan, Eritrea said northern Ethiopia back then. Am I correct?

Somali people were mostly present in the northern part of the horn back then. It was only later that we migrated southwards, but the area Punt ruled encompassed the northern Somali coast.

A series of studies from 2010-2015, of which one of them set out to confirm the origin of the Puntite baboons sent to the Egyptian rulers, established that the Red Sea coast of Somalia was ruled by Punt.

I think most parts of Sudan was ruled by Kush/Meroe and Egypt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 9:10am On May 25, 2017
kikuyu1:


You're late to the party! We did that multiple times. They all saw the leader but pretended not to understand and changed the topic while they screarmed even louder.
And we trump you in all those indexes he listed.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:15am On May 25, 2017
ArtanK:


Axum's history is fascinating. They conquered southern Yemen and large parts of modern day Saudi Arabia. Whenever Arabs get mouthy, I hit them with the Axumites ruling their land and they're left speechless grin
Much like the African Moors ruling southern Spain.How vibrant is the port of Adulis today?In Greek times it was quite great.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:21am On May 25, 2017
fanficgirl:

Wow! And people claim Habeshas are. They sold the slaves to Arabs? Then Abyssanians came in and started selling Oromos as slaves? Did they so it for revenge then?
Slaverly had long history in Ethiopia just like in any other regions, so it's very difficult to know who started it.

The Abyssinians personality only sold slaves which are non-Christian. Christian and other slaves were sold by Arab merchants, Adals(Harar, Somalia and Afar) and other peoples.

Oromos slave trading history was very long, but during their population movement, they sold many Abyssinian and other slaves as they hadn't before.

During emperor Menelik II expansion to SW, S and SE, peoples who didn't resisted(some Oromos are included) where treated humanly, but those who resisted(most Oromos are included) were massacred, their organs mutated and sold as a slave. The Abyssinians didn't only done it out of revenge, because most of Menelik army were made of Oromos themselves. They sold those slaves to buy firearms and to eliminate those who opposed them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ArtanK(m): 9:23am On May 25, 2017
obaaderemi:
Much like the African Moors ruling southern Spain.How vibrant is the port of Adulis today?In Greek times it was quite great.

I wish I could tell you. The closest I come to ancient Adulis is my mother being Djiboutian haha, I'm not Eritrean. However, my Eritrean friends told me that the ruins are preserved and taken care of. Massawa, which is a major port is right next door so I don't think anybody still uses Adulis.

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