uyiekpenn:
you're very correct. Most guys want to be rich just to impress cheap girls. I want to be rich to be able take care of my lovely mom who has suffered a lot for me and my siblings, my dad who invested in me and also to put a smile on the faces of those who don't have. That's my aim of wanting to be rich.

Tanx cos u spoke ma mind

sekem:


If you are a potential yourself, there will no much need for looking for someone who will COMPLETE you.



I'm not about women liberation

I'm about HUMAN liberation

You and I know that task becomes easier when all hands are on deck

Not when someone sits down and says she's waiting or hunting for someone with potential to do the job

That's stupid

If eventually I have female children, I will definitely teach them how to be independent on their own

Most of these useless girls who are looking for someone to leech on were not given the right orientation and you can now see where that has got us now

If we should be teaching girls to hunt for men with the so called potentials rather than working on their own potentials; then we might as well tell the girls to stop going to school because the money that is being wasted in training them could be used in developing a man with potential somewhere.

Like I said earlier, I'm all about HUMAN liberation.

Have you ever ponder why we desperate the sports.
I.e women sport on one side, men on the other.

Don't kid yourself no matter how much you train your daughters, they will always need a man. Always! Maybe not in the financially sense.but emotionally sometimes spiritually. Depends on your definition of dependency and how you choose to expand on it.

Part of training your daughters its to know where their strength stops and weakness begins. Something that is a shared commonality among humans.

If you can teach them this,you have thought them "true" human liberation. Like you profess.

ReneeNuttall:
I will prefer a semi_alrdy made man and a semi_struggler,so we can hustle together and be MADE.

Logical woman...I like ladies who reasons like you. They usually give birth to babies who question things and thats how scientists are born. Women who say they want already made and no go area, those who say struggling man are also no go area. In between is just perfect

ReneeNuttall:


Wow! thank u very seriously.

Ur welcome seriously

mecussey:


Logical woman...I like ladies who reasons like you. They usually give birth to babies who question things and thats how scientists are born. Women who say they want already made and no go area, those who say struggling man are also no go area. In between is just perfect

Thank u sir

Teegelop:

No way no how, a lady will still have a sense of what you are up to from your look/ dressing

and if her friends are good trollers, that's a problem

ivolt:
Women going for men of higher status is also a symptom of our ultra-patriachal society.
It is not just about the "gain", it is also about being fairly judged by society.
For a man with equal or lower financial status, almost every disagreement in their union
is seen in the light of wealth or fame, where the woman will be accused of trying to wear the trousers
in the home just because she is wealthy.
There was a thread about Omotola's husband going to get foodstuff in the market,
if only you see the vituperations poured on her for turning her husband to "houseboy",
some vowed never to have anything to do with independent women,
some even suggested that the husband is a disgrace and is not man enough to be
married.
Such comments will never have come up if the man was of higher status, in that
case, people will tag him as being romantic.
So women hedging there bet with a man of higher status is a smart strategy
since majority of men aren't too comfortable with equal or higher status women,
as Nigerian men change their views of marriage from a "Master-servant" relationship
to a cooperative partnership, the rate of independent women going for
"senior men" will decrease.

As I said, both sexes need to forget about how society views them. Men should proudly do house chores and ladies should proudly work to make money. Enough of this nonsense about what society expects, if majority of the society starts doing something, it becomes the norm. Only a man with low self esteem would be intimidated if his wife is richer than him. Trouble only starts when the woman actively emasculates the man by insisting on making financial decisions that affect both of them she knows the man won't be able to keep up with, such as insisting on sending the kids abroad to study, when there are good schools in the country the man could afford. Relationships require lots of understanding and compromises. Many guys these days have adjusted to the modern realities of relationships. We date you girls and we cope with your behavior and attitudes. Do you think we expect you to change your stripes overnight by some miracle when we marry you? We realize that things have changed and you girls are our equals, and in many cases we even give you superior treatment

CreamyMoltenLar:
Lol. Bro your rationale is hilarious. I don't have a head for business, so I'm not looking for a business partner or investor. When I talk about my wife complementing me financially, I mean her being capable of pulling her weight. By God's grace I can live in relative comfort for the rest of my life if I remain single, so its not like I want to chop her money. By the time you factor in kids, family expenses (hospital bills etc), upkeep for the wife (and possibly her family members) you'll see that my salary would hardly be enough for us to live a comfortable life. If I remain single and spend my money wisely, I should be able to build a house and possibly invest in one business or the other in the near future. Are you saying I should marry a housewife so I can divert all the funds for my future plans to maintain my wife? Women talk about wanting 'made men', what they don't seem to realise is that more often than not, these men acquired their cars, houses and businesses through self discipline and by marrying industrious women that did not only help them save their money, but also contributed to their 'success'. It would take me a few years to achieve the status of being made and I'd rather not get married in my late 30s or early 40s. That's why I said I want to marry someone financially independent, not so I can eat her money, but so that I won't have to give up my plans to acquire the things that most ladies insist a man should have. Its not that I won't contribute to the family's welfare, it'd just take a little longer for my plans to come to fruition, as opposed to if I'd been single and dedicated all my resources to those plans. How many young men are 'made'? If a lady wants to marry a young made man, she'd probably have to either go for an armed robber/yahoo boy, anybody that has access to looted public funds (including politicians, their family members/associates and 'lucky' contractors that are given bogus contracts etc) or they settle for old (possibly married) rich men like directors, general managers, business tycoons etc. The point is, how many young (say under or early 30s) made men are there that earned their money through honest means or inheritance? They exist, but are they enough for majority of ladies to insist on marrying them? Remember the issue here isn't women marrying men that can take care of them, its them wanting to marry made men.

no wahala oh, nice one

why is everygal running away from a ready made man... una no like good things ni.. you should understand marrying a struggling guy doesnt men he wouldnt cheat on u when he has made it.. thats even more painful

pedrilo:
u will end up with a woman u dnt like bro. Trust me.

Not true bro. I'm actually using his idea

nobleblood:


Have you ever ponder why we desperate the sports.
I.e women sport on one side, men on the other.

Don't kid yourself no matter how much you train your daughters, they will always need a man. Always! Maybe not in the financially sense.but emotionally sometimes spiritually. Depends on your definition of dependency and how you choose to expand on it.

Part of training your daughters its to know where their strength stops and weakness begins. Something that is a shared commonality among humans.

If you can teach them this,you have thought them "true" human liberation. Like you profess.

Get me right

I'm not saying my daughters will not need a man

They will need a man but it will not primarily or necessarily be because of his money

And a man will equally need them too

And it will not primarily or necessarily be because of sex

I will make sure I start on time to train my daughters on how to make their own money such that they will not be looking for the so called man with "potential to make money" because we all know that is exactly what "potential" means to a lot you Africans

I will make sure my daughters get the type of quality education that will guarantee that no man messes with them

And I will make sure my daughters get the type of basic home training that will make them so humble that you won't even see any atom of arrogance and sense of entitlement in them

My daughters will be a great blessing and a great source of joy to any man that marries them because they will be contributing rather than leeching

I know you're already wishing you will marry one of my daughters but you have to be a very strong man of character yourself because by the time I finish analyzing you, in short eh...

But don't be afraid eh because we won't ask of your money or how much you are making.

All we will only be interested in is if you can take care of them... more than daddy

connectpoint:


could you please just pick one already...stop confusing us..now which do you want......

Shior

CreamyMoltenLar:
Interesting topic. I think guys should also be concerned about the caliber of lady they'll like to end up with. These days its better to spend the rest of your life with somebody that can significantly complement you financially. Personally I've always said I'd never consider a lady that can't at least meet me 40% of the way, because I have so many projects lined up and our contributions will be 60-40. So the question isn't really what type of guy you 'prefer' its what kind of guy you meet up to. There's nothing wrong with being unemployed or earning peanuts and praying for a rich man to give you a life sha. You can either beat your chest with pride and say you want a man you can complement significantly or you humbly beg for a made man to rescue you from poverty. Your own worth should determine your taste in men. Though TBH I personally don't respect girls that think because they're fine they should get a made man, I only respect women that work hard to make an honest living, instead of leeching off their daddies and sugar daddies/yahoo boyfriends.

I read through the comments on FP and noticed no one quote you then I stated to think. non the less I think your response is epic and unmeasurable great mentality brother

nikkypearl:


Shior

lol...e pain you

An impossible question to ask without sentiments. Just like the famed ones:

Is an overflowing consulting room proof of the doctor's competence or incompetence. How about mechanic workshop, a seamstress's shop or an executive's table. Does clutter mean confusion or capacity.

The choice of a 'made man'..... (and I make no reference.to La Cosa Nostra) or a 'baker' is entirely up to the individual involved because there are serious merits in considering either possibilities viz goals, values, vision, temperament, etc. I think one can make similar arguments for say, educated and non educated, business or professional, etc. There is just no one clear side....no one shoe fits all.

sekem:


Get me right

I'm not saying my daughters will not need a man

They will need a man but it will not primarily or necessarily be because of his money

And a man will equally need them too

And it will not primarily or necessarily be because of sex

I will make sure I start on time to train my daughters on how to make their own money such that they will not be looking for a man with "potential to make money" because we all know that is exactly what "potential" means to a lot you Africans

I will make sure my daughters get the type of quality education that will guarantee that no man messes with them

And I will make sure my daughters get the type of basic home training that will make them so humble that you won't even see any atom of arrogance and sense of entitlement in them

My daughters will be a great blessing and a great source of joy to any man that marries them because they will be contributing rather than leeching

I know you're already wishing you will marry one of my daughters but you have to be a very strong man of character yourself because by the time I finish analyzing you, in short eh...

But don't be afraid eh because we won't ask of your money or how much you are making.

All we will only be interested in is if you can take care of them... more than daddy

I would love to marry your daughters if all this willy wishes are made flesh. Who wouldn't? But then again that's what exist on the mind of every daughter raising father.

Its still around the subject of potential.

CreamyMoltenLar:
As I said, both sexes need to forget about how society would view you. Men should proudly do house chores and ladies should proudly work to make money. Enough of this nonsense about what society expects, if majority of the society starts doing something, it becomes the norm. Only men with low self esteem would be intimidated if his wife is richer than him. Trouble only starts when the woman actively emasculates the man by insisting on making financial decisions that affect both of them she knows the man won't be able to keep up with, such as insisting on sending the kids abroad to study, when there are good schools in the country the man could afford. Relationships require lots of understanding and compromises. Many guys these days have adjusted to the modern realities of relationships. We date you girls and we cope with your behavior and attitudes. Do you think we expect you to change your stripes overnight by some miracle when we marry you? We realize that things have changed and you girls are our equals, and in many cases we even give you superior treatment

Sorry I am not female, but I have seen enough to distinguish between and ideal
and real societies. And I hate double standard.

If a woman will eventually be ruled by a man as you and many other men believe,
then it makes no sense that she should go for equal or lower social status men.

A man should not lay claim to authority simply because he is a man, he must
earn it.

We men can't eat our cake and still have it.

bezimo:


Well stated.
Bunch of liabilities everywhere looking for a made man to rescue them from poverty. So called fine girl without sense, without capacity, and broke looking for what her hand can't reach. Exactly. .it should be based on what type of guy you measure up to or you complement based on what you can bring to the table...

Bullshit, it is common knowledge that fine girls who have nothing doing
are more successful in getting married than girls who concentrate on
making money.

The same girls you term liabilities are the most sorted and they get
most attention from guys.

Trying to beat the system is a futile exercise.

loswhite:
all this English and u got it all wrong...The bible did not say summit because he is providing for you....This is purely your lame imagination

The Bible also didn't say women should provide.

damzy88:
Rubbish. Are you saying there are no ready made women that are submissive?Don't encourage laziness on the part of ladies. Gracias

Am not encouraging laziness. I just hate the fact that men are running away from responsibilities. You want 50% financial help from your wife but you will never assist 50% with house work.

ivolt:


Bullshit, it is common knowledge that fine girls who have nothing doing
are more successful in getting married than girls who concentrate on
making money.

The same girls you term liabilities are the most sorted and they get
most attention from guys.

Trying to beat the system is a futile exercise.

Type of guys like you. Gerrahia men.
I don't know why I get the feeling you are one of those the society termed "magarised guys" out there, who have been fleeced over and over again by one of these labilities that your mentality has now been altered to think a girl who brings nothing to the relationship or union deserves the best.

Nonsense.

I stand not to be corrected. A liability is a liability fine or not fine.

Make no mistake, I am of the strong opinion that the man in marriage is the provider but the woman should not be a liability.....

bezimo:


Type of guys like you. Gerrahia men.
I don't know why I get the feeling you are one of those the society termed "magarised guys" out there, who have been fleeced over and over again by one of these labilities that your mentality has now been altered to think a girl who brings nothing to the relationship or union deserves the best.

Nonsense.

I stand not to be corrected. A liability is a liability fine or not fine.

Make no mistake, I am of the strong opinion that the man in marriage is the provider but the woman should not be a liability.....

Fine or no fine, women generally want to marry a man of higher
social standing.

You can rant all you want, but that is how things work, whether
you think someone deserve better or not is immaterial, the
important fact is what happens to such person in real life.

Smart people adapts and take advantage of their situation while
the myopic ones waste their energy fighting the system even
though no one is listening.

I won't take you serious until you are successfully married.
Anyone can run their mouth theorising about what they
will do in a particular situation.

Being a man is not a question of having pen.is, you will learn
that with time.

ivolt:
Sorry I am not female, but I have seen enough to distinguish between and ideal
and real societies. And I hate double standard.
If a woman will eventually be ruled by a man as you and many other men believe,
then it makes no sense that she should go for equal or lower social status men.
A man should not lay claim to authority simply because he is a man, he must
earn it.
We men can't eat our cake and still have it.

The mentality that real men dominate or lord it over women is archaic and quite frankly ridiculous in this day and age. There's nothing to demand, as mature adults the couple ought to respect each other's feelings and treat themselves with courtesy. Only weak men desire to use money to control their wives or be in charge, marriage is a partnership. Whether the woman is financially independent or not, her husband should respect her, involve her in the decision making process and help around the house. She's a co-captain, not a deck hand.

Expatriate abeg,what's not to like in a loyal woman

pedrilo:
u will end up with a woman u dnt like bro. Trust me.

nahzyla:


The Bible also didn't say women should provide.

The bible didn't say they should work so why not advice them to sit at home and baby sit so when they lost their husband they should be like the poor widow described in the bible..smh

Y

vicfuntop:
I was just scrolling down this thread when I came across your comment. I had to scroll up and check the name. I wasn't surprised. It had to be you

I know right? Expecting my wife to have a job. The nerve! Classic Lar

F

I wont say a ready made man cos i will love to be part of my man success story..But some guys are nt encouraging at all,they wont show dere true colour when they re hustling,they will be so caring that u wont doubt he will care when he eventually make it but let money comes dats when dey will find one fault in the lady...If any lady says she cant suffer for any guy am nt going to blame them cos dere is a reason for every action and while u re trying to be d best some guys will still want to bring out d beast in u....lyk seriously until a man get small change u cant predict his actions.....

vicfuntop:
Sarcasm

Oya sorry
But the thrust of my comment was that I want a working class wife, what's so horrible about that?

whitebeard:
I won't reveal my wealth to any woman I wanna marry until after the marriage

chop knuckle

cloud9usher:
I'm not surprised!

Sometimes I imagine how this world would look like in 20 years to come. About 40 years ago, our mothers readily accepted to marry our fathers, back then most of our fathers were either uneducated or very poor, but these women(our mothers) stayed with our fathers and they grew together and raised a successful family.

Fast forward to 2017, a Nigerian girl won't even consider dating an average guy talk less of marrying him.

These set of ladies we have now in Nigeria are not any closer to the qualities of our dear and great mothers, I'm not in support of a man being lazy or broke, no man should EVER be in such a state, but Nigerian women had shown in recent times that they are just after the money and are greedy and lazy enough to see men as a poverty alleviation program.

If Nigerian ladies were as successful and rich as how they want men to be before they can consider dating/marrying then it wouldn't have been an issue, the annoying thing is that these ladies who set standards for riches are either jobless or have nothing to write home about financially, its only in Nigeria that women make it seem like being rich is for the man only, the man should get rich and spend the money on their lazy ass, what a mentality!

I rest my case, my God help you ladies, as for we men, we are way smarter and wiser now, we are!

as if naija men can withstand rich ladies..wen a naija lady is very rich out of hardwork una go dey fear say she go take over as d man of d house....the thing is naija men are intimidated by rich ladies..ladies at d end try hustle for yah money abeg and marry and already made dude biko