Proudlyngwa:

And that is what am saying, it's divide and rule tactics, that made you people to be given that term and inferiority complex, that made you people accept it.
South South was coined by some one who was not from the south south Georgia political region, if you want to identify, identify with your geographic region, not some formulary for sharing.
Geographically where are you from.

Have you ever looked at the map of Nigeria? The real east of Nigeria is Taraba, Benue and Cross Rivers State.

There is nothing east about Abia state. So my question to you: Why did you accept Abia as Eastern region. Abia state is geographically located in the Southern region proper and not in the East. So once again, why have you accepted that you are Eastern? East of where? Were you the one who choose the term Eastern? The real brainwashing that's taking place right now is coming from the people attempting to rewrite thier own history.

PapaBrowne:


Dude, A people have the freedom to determine for themselves what to be called.

Most South Southerners are okay with the term. Its only South Easterners and South Westerners that come to tell us that there is nothing like that.

We have chosen to identify our minority status as collective group. And for that reason we call ourselves Niger Deltans or South Southerners or as the poster has said middle beltans. It's none of your business what we choose to call ourselves.

Ask yourself what the meaning of Downtown is. Why is the center of a city called Downtown? To you it makes no sense but to the users of English, creativity is welcome

a politician from south east detached you minorities from his people and called you south south which does not even make any sense geographically. so south easterners already want you minorities to be identified separately more than you do, even though you are now taking it to crazy levels by denying existence of igbos in south south. South East itself has Igalas and Idomas, while we regard them fully as south easterners, we also acknowledge that the geopolitical zones did not fully respect the ethnic boundary and will never deny their ethnic origin whenever ethnicity is the subject matter

Noted

Curlieweed:


I'm Igbo. Why do you ask?

-Ok. I'm taking roll call. Thanks.

During census. Middle belt is part of the North

During Election, Middle Belt is part of the North

When there is appointment to be shared by the North, NW is the North.

When there are opportunities to be harnessed, NW is the North.

When the FUlani Herdsmen were killing, raping and pillaging Middle Belt, North was not under attack because it is Middle Belt that was being attacked by their Fouta Jallon Masters and there was no condemnation from the people that see themselves as the North -- NW.

Middle Belt give yourself a unique identity and pull out of ACF.

When will Hausas free themselves of their political structure Ursurpers, the Fulanis? OR will they forever be subservient to their fulani lords?

An average NW fulfulde speaking North Westerner see the Middle Belt as their conquered feudal land and they are the lords of those lands.

GoroTango:
Very soon you will start your land grabbing antics again just like your IPOB that included the middle belt tribes of Idoma and Igala in their imaginary map.

The only people grabbing land in Igala and Idoma are not the people that drew a map but those killing them off so that their cattle can graze

Ogbuefi2020:

a politician from south east detached you minorities from his people and called you south south which does not even make any sense geographically. so south easterners already want you minorities to be identified separately more than you do, even though you are now taking it to crazy levels by denying existence of igbos in south south. South East itself has Igalas and Idomas, while we regard them fully as south easterners, we also acknowledge that the geopolitical zones did not fully respect the ethnic boundary and will never deny their ethnic origin whenever ethnicity is the subject matter

Nobody has ever denied existence of Igbos in the South South. The governor of Delta state is an Igbo man.

The funny reality is that it is the Igboid groups in the South South that prefer to separate thier identity from South East Igbos. Not sure why, I have asked around and the constant rhetoric I get is that they'd rather be local champions alongside other minorities than become oblivious alongside majority Igbos.

If you give Aniomas a choice today to join Anambra, they would tell you till tomorrow they'd rather be in Delta state.

GoroTango:
Very soon you will start your land grabbing antics again just like your IPOB that included the middle belt tribes of Idoma and Igala in their imaginary map.

I support a Middle Belt free of Hausa hegemony.

All Igbos love freedom. It is the sweetest thing.

PapaBrowne:


Have you ever looked at the map of Nigeria? The real east of Nigeria is Taraba, Benue and Cross Rivers State.

There is nothing east about Abia state. So my question to you: Why did you accept Abia as Eastern region. Abia state is geographically located in the Southern region proper and not in the East. So once again, why have you accepted that you are Eastern? East of where? Were you the one who choose the term Eastern? The real brainwashing that's taking place right now is coming from the people attempting to rewrite thier own history.

from your map, the whole of south east plus cross river, akwa ibom, RIvers and half of Bayelsa are in the real geographical south east. you make look like being south and being East are mutually exclusive. A place can be south and East at the same time i.e. South east. The creator of the geopolitical zones (an igboman) already wanted you minorities to have your own identities that is why he did not include you in south east which you geographically belong (he is not interested in the subjugation of anybody), for lack of any other appropriate term, he invented "south south" which is meaningless geographically

PapaBrowne:


Have you ever looked at the map of Nigeria? The real east of Nigeria is Taraba, Benue and Cross Rivers State.

There is nothing east about Abia state. So my question to you: Why did you accept Abia as Eastern region. Abia state is geographically located in the Southern region proper and not in the East. So once again, why have you accepted that you are Eastern? East of where? Were you the one who choose the term Eastern? The real brainwashing that's taking place right now is coming from the people attempting to rewrite thier own history.

We have four valid geographic points.
North east
North west
South east
South west

I am from the south east.
Hope you are clear.
Those diving us into South East and South South are agents of confusion.
Like I said, when I go to the north, live with my family there, use their health care, pay my tax there, I become a northerner.
Until we start looking beyond little things we won't achieve big things.

Northern minorities are one of the most abused and oppressed Nigerians. They are always called upon to support Fulani agenda, but forgotten when distribution the spoils. Look at Igala land, Tiv, Idoma, Jukun,Mambila, Ebira or even Nupe, there is no tangible development there lead by many years of Fulani domination. Instead they cite all their projects in kano, Katsina, Sokoto or Kaduna.

it's sad. But heart warming that the northern minorities are awake to being used by others for their selfish ends.

PapaBrowne:


Nobody has ever denied existence of Igbos in the South South. The governor of Delta state is an Igbo man.

The funny reality is that it is the Igboid groups in the South South that prefer to separate thier identity from South East Igbos. Not sure why, I have asked around and the constant rhetoric I get is that they'd rather be local champions alongside other minorities than become oblivious alongside majority Igbos.

If you give Aniomas a choice today to join Anambra, they would tell you till tomorrow they'd rather be in Delta state.

Lol, in the land of the blind men one eyed man is the king. Ikwerres for example will ordinarily be irrelevant if merged with Imo but look at them forming Rambo on the Ijaws. But these are all political gimmicks and does not confer separate ethnic identities on anybody. Only God create ethnic group not the government, the government can only create states or zones

PDJT:

-Ok. But Nigeria is not a Nation in true sense of the term, rather what we refer as Tribes are actually the Nations.
-In my opinion, this Nations need to advocate for the recognition of their Nationhoods (rather than lump themselves as a geographical expression) and then willingly come together as amalgamation of Nations. *See the USA.*
-Meanwhile, why can't all this Nations represent individual States, with their executive, legislature & judiciary, within Nigeria?

Yeah you are right, Nigeria is not a nation, it is a country.
If you want the dissolution of the country Nigeria, there are ways to achieve it,
Good luck with that.

coptic:
Naked truth.

We are not North Central but middle belt.

We no longer want to be addressed as north central.

We hereby proclaim ourselves the middlebelter, and not North Central.

The prevailing wisdom is that we seek to carve an identify different from that of the core north and state categorically that the term "north central" exists only.for the benefits of the core northerners who love using land and population to their advantages.

We want no part of that.

Besides, we have suffered more grievously than any other group from the activities of the herdsmen in recent years.

Our forebears allowed them into our lands all because they were open and receptive to all. Today, their hospitality has turned back to haunt us right in our backyards.

Some silly ignoramuses like that dolt from Kaduna (the one who types in red ink) even go as far as claiming the middle belt as fulani land.

Be careful. You cannot rebel against the north. Be careful

coptic:


Thank you for this, bro.

I wonder what he's fretting over.

Another group challenging the useles wazobia supremacy that has destroyed nigeria

Ogbuefi2020:

a politician from south east detached you minorities from his people and called you south south which does not even make any sense geographically. so south easterners already want you minorities to be identified separately more than you do, even though you are now taking it to crazy levels by denying existence of igbos in south south. South East itself has Igalas and Idomas, while we regard them fully as south easterners, we also acknowledge that the geopolitical zones did not fully respect the ethnic boundary and will never deny their ethnic origin whenever ethnicity is the subject matter

How has the Igbos acknowledge the Igalas and Idomas in the south east region?

nengibo:

Another group challenging the useles wazobia supremacy that has destroyed nigeria

Make sure you don't bring in Igbos to the nonsense you're about spewing. We already agitating to leave the union. Bullshit.

givbitcoin:


Be careful. You cannot rebel against the north. Be careful

Rebel against the North?

The f#ck does that even mean?

Does the north own anybody? Does she pay me?

So why should I give rat's ass about the north or tlwhat she thinks?

givbitcoin:


Be careful. You cannot rebel against the north. Be careful

Says the Fulfulde speaking herdsman from Fouta Jallon, who usurped the political structure of the Hausas.

It is not your fault, it is the fault of the Hausas and Middle Belters that cannot cane you out of their land.

cumbak60:

Make sure you don't bring in Igbos to the nonsense you're about spewing. We already agitating to leave the union. Bullshit.

Guilty conscience has found them, horse dung

Ogbuefi2020:

Lol, in the land of the blind men one eyed man is the king. Ikwerres for example will ordinarily be irrelevant if merged with Imo but look at them forming Rambo on the Ijaws. But these are all political gimmicks and does not confer separate ethnic identities on anybody. Only God create ethnic group not the government, the government can only create states or zones

Yeah, a good example there with Ikwerre. And that's the beauty of been in this minority collective which Ekwueme rightly named South South. Here there are no dominators. Imagine in Delta state, the smallest tribe, the Itsekiri ruled for 8 years.

God Created man. Ethnic groups formed over time as a result of traveling and resettlements.

And in the real sense there is really nothing like ethnic groups. It's just basically a combination of language and culture which are just himan creations passed on over generations.

nengibo:

Guilty conscience has found them, horse dung

You are configured to spew trash against Igbos, that why I have to put you on check Madam Nengi.

coptic:


Rebel against the North?

The f#ck does that even mean?

Does the north own anybody? Does she pay me?

So why should I give rat's ass about the north or tlwhat she thinks?

My candid advice: Do not listen to the lying tongues of Yoruba people. They have caused enough problems in this country already. Don't let anybody deceive you. While it is true that we have lots of languages in the North, like most places in the world tho, North should be seen as one because we are stronger together.

Proudlyngwa:

The problem of Nigeria started with the creation of Geopolitical zones,
If we are to go with the map, you guys are in Northern Nigeria. The earlier we all do away with, religion, tradition, regionalism and favourism and work towards ideology, patriotism, transparency et al, better for us.
As far as concerned, you are from Northern Nigeria.
That doesn't make you any lesser, it doesn't make you hausa neither does it make you a Muslim.

you dont know what we are facing down here.

SuperS1Panther:


Says the Fulfulde speaking herdsman from Fouta Jallon, who usurped the political structure of the Hausas.

It is not your fault, it is the fault of the Hausas and Middle Belters that cannot cane you out of their land.

A great virtue of the Fulani man you much love to despise is his magnanimity.

We are so magnanimous in victory and that is why everybody talks as pleases him today

cumbak60:

You are configured to spew trash against Igbos, that why I have to put you on check Madam Nengi.

Aunty Blues, i see you've got another acct,

givbitcoin:


A great virtue of the Fulani man you much love to despise is his magnanimity.

We are so magnanimous in victory and that is why everybody talks as pleases him today

Really. Who did you defeated apart from the Hausas which you have made your eternal slaves.

You only spared them because you needed slaves that you will be lording over. Well that is the headache of your Hausa Slaves.

The Kanuris, The Tivs, The Jukuns, The Idomas, The Beroms etc were never defeated by your rampaging and blood thirsty fore fathers . WHat you could not achieve in 18th century is what you are using your herdsmen to stylishly achieve in 2017, by committing genocide against the minorities.

That's a good one.

Kyase:
you dont know what we are facing down here.

My brother, everyone is facing it.
Organized crime, comes in different forms.
Do you know what the people of omoku, where I work are facing.
Look at southern Kaduna, taraba, ikorodu.
The federal government and state governments have failed us, do you think it is regionalism which is a mini federal government and a macro state government, that will solve it.
A lot of things need to start happening right, and one of those things is giving power genuinely back to the local governments.

If every village in Nigeria likes let them formal a country, we will still have problems.
We have a polluted mindset as Nigerians, they earlier we realize and work on it they better for us.

Proudlyngwa:

The problem of Nigeria started with the creation of Geopolitical zones,
If we are to go with the map, you guys are in Northern Nigeria....

No. No. No

Kindly restrict your comments to facts and subjects you are versed in.

How can you say the problems of Nigeria started with geo political zones ?

Geo political zoning is one of the few enduring legacies of PDP rule.

The late Chuba Okadigbo was the enunciator and architect of the present system of geopolitical stratification of Nigeria.
Recall that the regional system has been defunct since 1967, the state system is too cumbersome, and the division of Nigeria into North and South is too crude and does not reflect either gross or nuanced political differences.
The geopolitical division of Nigeria into six zones was a work of genius. It highlighted commonalities between the groups and sought to style their differences without increasing acrimony.

Finally Northern Nigeria does not begin in the middle belt. It never has despite lies over the years. The middle belt has different religion, language, culture and political system from the core north. To claim so, is like saying yorubaland begins in Delta state because Itsekiri live there.

nengibo:

Aunty Blues, i see you've got another acct,

Madam Nengi, I'll have a showdown with you when the time comes, but for now, stay focus. Oya, limp back to topic.

PapaBrowne:


Yeah, a good example there with Ikwerre. And that's the beauty of been in this minority collective which Ekwueme rightly named South South. Here there are no dominators. Imagine in Delta state, the smallest tribe, the Itsekiri ruled for 8 years.

God Created man. Ethnic groups formed over time as a result of traveling and resettlements.

And in the real sense there is really nothing like ethnic groups. It's just basically a combination of language and culture which are just himan creations passed on over generations.

Are you people alright at all. Somebody opens a thread to talk about Middle belt and carving their own niche. The trio of you with that boy Proudlyngwa and nenigbo wants to derail it with your Igbo nonsense.


Can't you people open your own thread? Are you people really alright at heart?



Shame on you people