Nihilist:


Messi does not make anybody better.

Xavi already won la liga 6 years before Messi's debut abeg.

Xavi and Iniesta without Messi - WC and Euros

Messi without Xaviniesta - international odo

Villa and Pedro without Messi - world cup, euros, EPL trophy.

Messi without villa and Pedro - international sorrow tears and blood.

Suarez and Neymar without Messi - copa america, confederations cup, Brazilian and Dutch leagues.

Messi without Neymar and Suarez - international retirement in disgrace

Meanwhile

Wes Brown and John Oshea with Ororo - UCL

Without Ororo - relegation at Sunderland

The whole Madrid without Ororo - no UCL since 2002

With Ororo - first to retain UCL in history

The whole of Portugal - Perennial failures

With Ororo - European Champions

Ororo can treat you better like Shawn Mendes.

bykebyke:

Olodo...Use your head.

I never said Pedro is better than Neymar...I said Pedro has done more for Barca than Neymar.

You are looking at Neymar's individual stats and not what he has achieved with Barcelona,for Barcelona.

Which is exactly what most of you Neymar fans forget.


Pedro-5 Laliga titles for Barcelona in 7years.

Neymar-2 in 4years(Neymar won't beat that)

With Pedro in Barcelona,we were staunch semifinalists in the UCL.

With Neymar we have made just one semifinals in 4years..FFS.

4won more trophies with Pedro in his first 4years,than we gave with Neymar in his 4yeara here.

In fact...If en wan go make en go.

He hasn't done anything special for Barcelona.

And don't bring any he is the future star talk here,When Messi will go Neymar will be close to 30 years old. Stop acting like he's 15.

And lastly...I'm not being over defensive..I'm just stating facts.

Dlordsamurai:
[b]Report in goal.com is that he is willing to leave and psg has agreed to pay his release clause. I said it in this thread that neymar'friendship with messi and suarez are only on paper and on the field of play and people said im writing crap. 'Now go to goal.com and read reasons why neymar wants to leave barca. he said he has no friends in barca and he is isolated in the dressing room. the only off field friend he had was dani alves which has left barcelona. "well messi and suarez are family men and all barca players are family men except neymar that goes to clubs, put on ear rings, smokes shissha, use and dumb girls, neymar lives a flexxing life style which are contrary to barca principles and to what messi and the rest senior players believe. SO such player will definetly not be offline friends to messi and barca players that are family men. this is why i suggested a family good player like hazard or alexis sanchez. "neymar wants to go to psg so he can go night clubbing with d players there.[/b]

ddippset:
lol, damn damn damn.*xavi 6 titles with no recognition only ronaldinho and deco. *xavi and iniesta wc and euro with casillas Alonso ramos (ronaldo' s carriers) *messi without xavi and iniesta world cup golden ball, top scorer and top assister ever for argentina, olympic gold. * madrid without ronaldo over 10 la liga titles with Ronaldo only 2. *ronadlo without modric zero champions league * portugal with ronaldo zero finals won, without ronaldo euro 2016 champions. ronaldo without eder zero trophy, with eder euro 2016. * ronaldo as football superstar zero trophy, ronaldo as one legged cheerleader euro 2016 won.

Nihilist:


Messi does not make anybody better.

Xavi already won la liga 6 years before Messi's debut abeg.

Xavi and Iniesta without Messi - WC and Euros

Messi without Xaviniesta - international odo

Villa and Pedro without Messi - world cup, euros, EPL trophy.

Messi without villa and Pedro - international sorrow tears and blood.

Suarez and Neymar without Messi - copa america, confederations cup, Brazilian and Dutch leagues.

Messi without Neymar and Suarez - international retirement in disgrace

Meanwhile

Wes Brown and John Oshea with Ororo - UCL

Without Ororo - relegation at Sunderland

The whole Madrid without Ororo - no UCL since 2002

With Ororo - first to retain UCL in history

The whole of Portugal - Perennial failures

With Ororo - European Champions

Ororo can treat you better like Shawn Mendes.

Chelseafan1:
Lol, na new season be ds o.....Rumdeuter still dey nairaland

Chelseafan1:
This guy get sense pass most pple here. No offence
Sentiments will not allow most of these Neymar fan boys see the sense in this post.
Neymar isn't Messi, Barca can do without him, Hazard can play very well with Suarez and Messi but then, they won't agree lailai

hensben:
I don't want to be mincing words anymore. Hazard is the better footballer.

Theflash98:
I respect you..so i wont be exchanging avusive word to you

so now pedro is better than ronaldinho cause i remembered dinho didnt win 5 la liga in 7years and he doesnt win more trophy than pedro in a barca shirt..

And according to your logic..neymar is the reason why barca didnt enter 4 semi finals and pedro is the reason barca did?...dont 4get pedro was coached by guardiola and neymar was coached by vilanova,tata martino and enrique

in your effort to belittle neymar,you are undermining your credibility

Dlordsamurai:
hazard is not overrated and sanchez was not our reject.

Nihilist:
Won 'Just' 2 league titles.

Just.

Xavi and Iniesta won the World Cup and Euros...Thats Messi' s effect on them despite not being on the pitch with them?

But he couldn't have that same effect in 3 straight finals on the pitch with Argentina?

Suarez and Neymar are internatonal champions without Messi due to his influence.

But Messi cant use his magic PlayStation pad to influence Argentina.

You see what we always say about Barkabots?

Barkabots and Clownish behaviour are always close like Bethlehem and Nazareth.

Hold it.

Nihilist:
Won 'Just' 2 league titles.

Just.

Xavi and Iniesta won the World Cup and Euros...Thats Messi' s effect on them despite not being on the pitch with them?

But he couldn't have that same effect in 3 straight finals on the pitch with Argentina?
.
Suarez and Neymar are internatonal champions without Messi due to his influence.

But Messi cant use his magic PlayStation pad to influence Argentina.

You see what we always say about Barkabots?

Barkabots and Clownish behaviour are always close like Bethlehem and Nazareth.

Hold it.

Nihilist:
Won 'Just' 2 league titles.

Just.

Xavi and Iniesta won the World Cup and Euros...Thats Messi' s effect on them despite not being on the pitch with them?

But he couldn't have that same effect in 3 straight finals on the pitch with Argentina?
.
Suarez and Neymar are internatonal champions without Messi due to his influence.

But Messi cant use his magic PlayStation pad to influence Argentina.

You see what we always say about Barkabots?

Barkabots and Clownish behaviour are always close like Bethlehem and Nazareth.

Hold it.

bykebyke:

Just 2 league titles in 6years.

With Messi he got 6 in 7years.

He had that effect by taking Argentina a team full of scrubs and bums to three straight finals.

ddippset:
messi has influenced argentina more than enough. you cannot be the top scorer and top assister at the same time for your country. It's absurd it's not possible it's against the rule books. It's crazy. that's messi. without modric ronaldo would still be looking for a champions league medal. without eder he would be a cheerleader.

Nihilist:


With Pedro, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Valdez and co you mean...

The bulk of the Spanish team who would go on to dominate European and World football...without Messi.

Messi basically joined a World Cup winning team at club level. They did not need him.

He has never achieved anything without them.

Nice try bro.



Di Maria, Higuain, Pastore, Aguero, Macsherano

Vs


Aranguiz, Isla, Vargas etc.

Argentine superstars' stay losing to the shoemakers of Chile twice in a row, with Messi as captain.


More Ls than a Parallelogram now Bruh.

Hold it tight.

Nihilist:


Ororo had a champions league Medal before Modric was even granted a UK visa bruh...and he won it with Wes Brown and Anderson on the pitch

Don't get it twisted.

ddippset:
the bulk of the spanish national team was humiliated after 2012. Since then messi has won 3 la liga titles and the champions league including the sextuple outscoring everybody and oitassisting everybody. ronaldo needed modric and eder to save his career. Bros abeg collect 2 L' s. The extra L is just in case you misplace the first one.

Nihilist:


With Pedro, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Valdez and co you mean...

The bulk of the Spanish team who would go on to dominate European and World football...without Messi.

Messi basically joined a World Cup winning team at club level. They did not need him.

He has never achieved anything without them.

Nice try bro.



Di Maria, Higuain, Pastore, Aguero, Macsherano

Vs


Aranguiz, Isla, Vargas etc.

Argentine superstars' stay losing to the shoemakers of Chile twice in a row, with Messi as captain.


More Ls than a Parallelogram now Bruh.

Hold it tight.

Nihilist:


With Pedro, Iniesta, Busquets, Pique, Valdez and co you mean...

The bulk of the Spanish team who would go on to dominate European and World football...without Messi.

Messi basically joined a World Cup winning team at club level. They did not need him.

He has never achieved anything without them.

Nice try bro.

Di Maria, Higuain, Pastore, Aguero, Macsherano

Vs


Aranguiz, Isla, Vargas etc.

Argentine superstars' stay losing to the shoemakers of Chile twice in a row, with Messi as captain.

More Ls than a Parallelogram now Bruh.

Hold it tight.

Hallucinations are sensations that appear real but are created by your mind. They can affect all five of your senses. For example,You may think you handed someone a L...but that didn't happen.

ddippset:
not forgetting Rooney tevez scholes giggs Ferdinand vidic evra neville van nistelroroy. And then the great sir Alex Ferguson. If Messi ever played under fergie and mourinho, 2 of the greatest managers in history he would have 10 ballon dors. I still have my L obtained on June 3 2017. I hereby generously donate it to you.

Nihilist:


Van nistelrooy played in that UCL winning campaign?

Interesting you mention Tevez though, he played alongside Ororo and won the UCL.

Your boy bykebyke called him a bum though, cos he was in the squad in 2015 when Messi took the L vs Chile.

You have the memory of an L-ephant though. Very fitting

raumdeuter:


How many goals has Hazard scored in his entire Champions league campaign from when he started playing football

Nihilist:


That's because the World Cup winners have been replaced by a Confederations cup winner and Brazil top scorer, as well as a Copa America winner.

Long story short, for Messi too succeed, Barca chief's had to import international champions from elsewhere to support him.

Neymar and Suarez stay winning without Messi. Heck even Andre Gomes the acclaimed donkey stay winning without Messi.

Messi is the only one that can't win without a Barca Jersey and stellar supporting cast.

Unlike Modric who has nothing of note without Lord Ororo.


Dippset, you're not about this life.

Theflash98:
Do you actually follow barca news?...neymar is friend with most barca player especially rafinha...you dont know much about barca

bykebyke:



Di Maria..Doesn't know his left foot from his right.
Higuain..A 29year old man in a 47year old man's body.
Pastore doesn't even get called up.
Aguero does not make the lineup for Argentina.


These are the bums Messi carried to three straight finals.




According to Healthline.com

bykebyke:

John Terry gave Tevez a UCL not Cristina.