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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AlBaqir(m): 4:43pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
Demmzy15: What this wahabi mouthpiece should understand is no one is condemning Saudi Arabia as a Nation but the ruling regime is what we the criticizers are after. The regime never represent Islam. There are lots of Saudi ulama that had either lost their lives or being exiled for opposing this despotic regime. The regime has successful just like the Banu Ummayad of the past, in buying or clipping various so-called Ulama that pass fatwas in accordance to their dictates. # Saying Saudi king is not above mistake is like telling us that was a one time thing. Several women had paid visit to him with uncovered hair, and perhaps with handshake. Attached is German Chancellor, Angela. # It does not matter to people like the above writer that the Saudi king befriends America (which is kufr according to Wahhabism). And it does not matter to them that the Saudi king has murdered 10,000 Yemenis among whom were children and women (which Nabi condemned in several sunni ahadith). He is still "upon the Book and the Sunnah". # Saying " they are in charge of hajj" is a biggest stupidity. This present regime hijacked hajj the day they forcefully ceased the hijaz killing every sundry, and upon innocent blood changed the blessed name (given by Nabi) to their family name. And Allah in the holy Quran says only he (those) whose heart are filled with piety can truly look over the Kaaba. 1 Like
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Demmzy15(m): 8:38pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
AlBaqir:I don't have time for your lies, deception and hypocrisy. Keep hitting and slapping your face because of Saudi Arabia, e no concern anybody. They're the custodians of the Holy Mosques, something no Rafidhi can ever think upholding. All your plans of corrupting the land has been exposed, go and repair the Majoosi Empire of Iran and stop nagging about Saudi. Gerrit?!  1 Like |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AlBaqir(m): 9:12pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
Demmzy15: # Okay, you are right they are the custodian of the Holy Mosques. I now gerrit. Thank you for that. Thanks a lot. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AlBaqir(m): 6:10pm On Jun 07, 2017 |
Demmzy15: # Please who is this your Imam, Abu Mardiy? I bet he's one of those uninformed wahabist. # I think its in Saudi's king habit to shake women. Trump's wife wasn't the first to shake hands with. Attached is Theresa May, British PM. # Now, let's assumed the King did not know the hadith of Nabi which says its HARAM to shake opposite sex (that you are not related with), where are/were Saudi Salafi scholars or anyone of them around the world to "remind" the ignorant king? # And where is it in the history of Muhammadan Islam that Nabi or any of the Sunni first four KHALIFAHS ever presented a kafir with the "Muslim's country" most recognised honour? 1 Share
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 9:11pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
al-Laalikaa'ee is narrating from ash- Shaafi'ee through his chain of narration: From Muhammad bin Idrees ash- Shaafi'ee that he said: One of our associates narrated to us saying: Two men - a Muslim and a Jew - disputed [and raised the dispute to] Eesaa bin Ibaan - and he was the qaadee of al-Basrah and he held the opinion of the people (the Mu'tazilah) [meaning he held Allaah's Names are created]. It turned out that making the oath of denial was upon the Muslim, so the Jew said, "Make him (the Muslim) take the oath". So he the (qaadee) said, "Swear (take an oath) [by] 'Allaah, the one besides whom there is none worthy of worship except He'." So the Jew said to the qaadee: "You claim that the Qur'an is created and "Allaah, the one besides whom there is none worthy of worship" is from the Qur'an. So make him take an oath for me by the Creator and not something created." So Eesaa (the qaadee) became bewildered and said: "Both of you leave until I consider (reflect upon) your affair." 1 Like |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Mofpearl: 9:15pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
^ I didn't understand it. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 9:20pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
Mofpearl: The Qaadee believed the Qur'an is created, and the name "Allaah" is in the Qur'an implying the name is created, so the Jew wanted him swear by the creator and not the "created", this renders their belief nonsensical.... |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Mofpearl: 9:23pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: ohhh. I understand now. Jazakallahu Kyran Are there Muslims who believe this? *I am just asking because I would like to know their names if there are* |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jun 10, 2017 |
Mofpearl: Sorry I had the strike that out, anyone who believes that the Qur'an is makhlooq{created) has apostatized and his blood is halaal to shed by consensus of the scholars...... We have examples like the jahmiyah, mu'tazila.... When you were a kid did you hear of a popular saying that the Qur'an was sent from heaven to earth like a book all at once? That was from the mu'tazilas 1 Like |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AlBaqir(m): 1:21am On Jun 11, 2017 |
AbdelKabir: # What kind of vampire ideological view is this? * If a man leaves Islam, kill him * If he believe Quran is created, Kill him * If he misses fard Salat intentionally, kill him * If he did this, kill him; if he did that kill him * Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. *Obviously, that is not Islam I despise your religion of killing and shedding blood. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 3:02am On Jun 11, 2017 |
AlBaqir: Thank you, your presence is duly noted... |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 8:56pm On Jun 11, 2017 |
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 5:11am On Jun 13, 2017 |
Subhanallaah it just got to me from a brother in Pakistan that, the Sufis there are presently celebrating the Battle of Badr. Literally Celebrating by Food, Zikr, Dua, & Free Mixing.... Nothing these people won't celebrate, WAllaahul musta'aan.... |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Empiree: 9:12am On Jun 13, 2017 |
Reason they do what they do is best known to them. You can not go around tagging everything common thing bidah. They have all types of celebrations in Arab region. People only seem to see everything that has Islam connotation bid-ah. All these holidays and days "independence day, mother's day, father's day, this day and that day, thanksgiving day are no better than any Islamic historic days. These days are elds actually and many people regardless of religion participate. Saudi also celebrates some days as well. So get over it. Here i found a link. This is not universal thing so stop being pragmatic https://iloveimamrabbani./2013/07/26/17th-ramadan-the-battle-of-badr-the-greatest-battle-victory-of-islam/ |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AlBaqir(m): 10:23am On Jun 13, 2017 |
Empiree: # First, its very sadden when a group of people did something and everyone related to that group in name or otherwise is labeled as such. Pakistan is a big country with one of the world's largest population. Sunni, Shia, Sufi, Deobandi are in millions and each of this group has subgroups among itself with slight difference of opinion. So, saying " sufis in Pakistan" is one deliberate bigotry. # Saudi Arabia, by wahabi-salafi definition of Bid'ah, is celebrating lots of unislamic days. Anniversary of their state establishment is usually characterised with sword dancing, cutting of world's largest cake in photographic shape or mould of their King etc. Yet, I haven't for once seen any of these mentally imprisoned guys criticising Saudi, their so-called land of Quran Wa Sunnah. What a wicked world! 1 Like |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jun 13, 2017 |
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 7:24am On Jun 14, 2017 |
Subhanallaah, I saw this Facebook post; I need some advice regarding salah al ead. Khaariji problem, its a shame, I don't know if I should laugh or feel sorry for this guy...when his fellow khawaarij gave him advice of praying with his family(wife and children) as a jama'ah, he said he already made takfeer on them too(see attached picture) 1 Like 1 Share
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 7:39am On Jun 14, 2017 |
Another post of his; when you get married, make sure you test your husband/wife's aqeeda lest you end up making A family full of bastards !! |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Alennsar(f): 3:05pm On Jun 14, 2017 |
the man's case is pathetic 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jun 22, 2017 |
There was a young man who used to fight, consume intoxicants and [openly] sin. Then, he entered into the belief of the Shī’ah so Habīb bin Abī Thābit said: “Verily, you in the day you used to fight and do what you used to do is better than you today.” [Al-Bid’a wa an-Nahī ‘Anhā of Ibn Wadhāh (no. 90): sahīh] Translated by Abū Ruqayyah ‘Abd us-Samad Taken from Shaykh ‘Arafāt al-Muhammadī's Twitter Account (9.45pm/20th July 2016). |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 10:59am On Jun 25, 2017 |
i felt the desructive nature of bid'ah after i read a book about history of christianity, in the first era christianity was pure among the disciples of isa alayhi salaam. Then comes the bid'ah of incarnation by paul. Then comes the bid'ah of trinity. And many until all of the christians Divided to many groups and fell on kufr. many unitarians had objected those bid'aat like Arios, Christians of today are taught that he was a heretic and hypocrite. It became clear to me bid'ah divided muslims this much. May Allaah protect us from bid'ah. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Mofpearl: 4:28pm On Jun 27, 2017 |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Mofpearl: 4:35pm On Jun 27, 2017 |
I was shocked. I stopped listening to him long time ago but still can't believe he actually said that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM8s53DMT58 |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jun 28, 2017 |
Bid'ah Idaafiyyah is that innovation which has a foundation in the Sharee'ah by way of a text from the Kitaab and the Sunnah, usually through those texts that are general, yet the application and what's extracted from that text is other than what is intended by way of the Sharee'ah. Therefore that which divides the Salafī from the Bid'ī is the return of understanding and application to the Sahaabah who were addressed firstly with the Sharee'ah, and those who were taught by them from amongst the rest of the Salaf. Elementary understanding that can protect one from cloudy vision as it relates to these whom our Scholars have declared to be innovators. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Empiree: 1:45pm On Jun 28, 2017 |
^^^ Make I trouble you small. So there are categories of bida but at the same time you people said bidah is bidah and its all lead to fire whether it's hassanat or not? . Now, it is in the sharia that it is haram 100% to deal in riba. Why did one of your shuyukh allow taking riba from the west but then claimed that it was okay to take it bcus if they didnt the enemies would use the money to kill Muslims in gaza?. Going by what you just posted up there, isn't this wrong application in sharia?  Sharia says riba is haram....PERIOD 1 Like |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jun 28, 2017 |
Go and seek attention somewhere else.... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by AbooUthaymeen(m): 5:53pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Imaam Albaani (rahimahullaah) said: If you talk about Tawheed, the people of shirk reject you. If you talk about the Sunnah, the people of bidah reject you. If you talk about proofs and evidences, the people of (blameworthy) blind adherence to the Madhabs and the ignorant ones reject you. If you talk about obedience to the rulers in (what is) good, supplicating for them, advising them (i.e. in private) and (about) the creed of Ahlus Sunnah, the khawaarij and the people of hizbiyyah(illegal partisanship, ikhwanis) reject you. If you talk about Islaam and establishing it in (our) daily lives, the secularists, the liberalists and those similar to them- those who want to cut off the religion from (our) daily lives- reject you. Ahlus Sunnah are extremely strange! They (i.e. all these misguided groups) wage war against us (i.e. Ahlus Sunnah) through all means. They wage war against us through audible broadcasts and writings to the extent that the family and friends wage war against this stranger- the one adhering to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of Allaah’s Messenger. However, despite this, we are happy with this strangeness and we take pride in it because the Messenger of Allaah (sallal laahu alayhi wasallam) praised the strangers. He (sallal laahu alayhi wasallam) said: ‘’Indeed Islaam began as (something) strange and it will return being strange just as it began, so toobaa (i.e. a tree in paradise or something good) is for the strangers.” It was said, who are they O Messenger of Allaah? He said: ‘’They are those rectify (i.e. themselves and others) when the people become corrupted.’’ [Silsilah As-Saheehah 1273- Abridged] 2 Likes |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 5:22am On Jul 04, 2017 |
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| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 8:43am On Aug 03, 2017 |
*Many have distorted this Imaams sayings and have attached much fairy tales to him.* -*The Fiqh of Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jaylani_* *"When you mention a Hadith to someone and that individual says, leave the Hadith and tell me from the Quran, then know that individual is misguided."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"There is no one who can help you except Allah, and nobody's saying is proof in comparison to the Hadith of the messenger (sallalahu alayhi Wa sallam)."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"The biggest fitna upon this ummah is those people who perform analogy in the religion of Allah with their opinions."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"Recite the amin loud in the audible prayer."* (Gunya tut talibin)l *"Perform rafyul yadayn during the first takbir, whilst going into ruku' and when coming up from ruku'."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"Put the right hand over the left hand above the navel (on the chest)."*(Gunya tut talibin) *"It is obligatory to recite the fatiha. This surah is a pillar of the prayer. By not reciting it the prayer becomes invalid."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"One should to tawaruk (put the left leg under the right leg) in the last rak'ah (the one in which you do Salam and conclude the prayer)."*(Gunya tut talibin) *"One should point with the right index finger whilst being in the at tahiyaat position."*(Gunya tut talibin) *"One should perform the asr prayer when the shadow of everything is equal to it(i.e at the beginning time of asr)."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"Sit between the two sajdas and recite rabigfirli three times."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"The one who does not pray has no religion or Islam."* (Gunya tut talibin) *"One should not perform the funeral prayer for the one who does not pray and one should not bury the individual in the Muslim graveyard who does not pray."* (Gunya tut talibin) Translated by Abu Ubaydah |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Empiree: 2:44am On Aug 04, 2017 |
^^ You just finding out about Sayyidina Sheikh Abdul Qadri Jilani(ra) just bcus it is recorded he is of Athari aqeeda following Hanbai school? Lol. Well, Sheikh was staunch sufi. The least you can sincerely say is sufi of today are not like those of yesterday. Alhuhadith of today are not like those of yesterday and so on. Thats fair judgement as i heard from salafi Sheikh. That's fair criticism. If I remember correctly not long ago, you tried to refute or condemn the phrase "muyidin" in reference to Sheikh Muyidin ajani bello. You said it is inappropriate for someone to call himself MUYIDEEN. Did you forget that Sheikh Jilani is also muyidin?   His full name Muhyiddin Abdul Qadir Al-Jilani. He was bestowed with ruhaniyun(ruhaniyah) which you guys condemned in a thread titled "Jinn Stories" by tbaba to be hereticHe is the grand-daddy of modern day Qadiriya section of sufi tariqa(named after him) and he had karamat which you people no longer believe today or try to downgrade. ikupakuti Between, it is said that Sheikh Albany(ra) said it is bid'a for women to lead presentation(lecture) before people (male or female audience) He said the sunnah of nabi(saw) is male addresses audience. whats the context of of his conclusion?. By the way, the man who quoted this narration was a salafi brother from masjid (daily halaqa) that i attend. |
| Re: How The Salaf Dealt With The People Of Desires by Nobody: 5:22am On Aug 04, 2017 |
OK, you've been duly noticed.... |
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