COBHAM UNDELIVERED MAIL RETURN:


"I’ve demonstrated I care for Atletico and have interest in playing for them. But if Atletico and Chelsea don’t come to an agreement and Atletico don’t make a big effort, I can’t keep on wanting to play for a club that isn’t going to make a bigger effort to try and sign me.


“I know that this will happen, but if it’s to pay the amount that Chelsea want it won’t be possible.

“What I know is that this offer Chelsea will get is bigger than what they paid, so I’ve given them something back in all senses.When we heard that Conte didn’t want me anymore, my agent went to find out if there was interest from Atletico for me coming back. Of course for the warmth and respect that I earned there, they showed interest. But they wouldn’t pay a fortune.Atletico is a team growing every year, a big team, but they can’t pay an extraordinary amount.


Chelsea have offered me to several clubs, but I was very clear with them. I said that if I’m not part of the manager’s plans, I would like to choose my destination. I’m not going to let them decide just to get more money.

“When I came to Chelsea they paid a lot less compared to what’s being offered to them. I think they should take into account everything that I’ve done. It’s not my fault that I’m not at the club. If it was down to me I’d be playing. It’s already been one month. Holidays are good but it gets tiresome.

“I didn’t provoke the situation, but now that it’s come to this the club has to think in two ways. Of course they need to get something back [in a sporting sense], like I gave them on the pitch, but financial as well. After three years they will receive a fee higher than what they paid.

I’ll be honest, I have my agent and none of that has reached me, People at the club called me before to give me extra holidays to not have contact with the manager.

“I was always meant to turn up with the group, but they were already saying that I’m going to have to come back and train with the reserves. I said that this was a lack of respect. We won the league and I haven’t done anything so serious to deserve being treated in that way.

“It won’t be the same as before, and we don’t know if the fight for the position will be fair. Because of me having exposed the text message I understand that he’ll be annoyed, so if I go back I have to see if things would be clean, just and correct.

“That’s how I like things. If I go back now I don’t think it will be a fair situation. It won’t be an honest fight for a position.”




Diego costa baba........mo' fire!

Oasis007:





How?!

If Bakayoko claims Chelsea is bigger than Monaco..... what will be your Reaction?! Gonna call him a Bastard?!

and will bakayoko ever say such a thing?

If he did, then he is a bastard. Monaco made him, he should ass lick with sense.

Funlordjnr:

“What I know is that this offer Chelsea will get is bigger than what they paid, so I’ve given them something back in all senses.

After three years they will receive a fee higher than what they paid.

This is all we are waiting for. As long as Atletico trump the £32m we paid for him, we are all Gucci.

Elnino4ladies:


LMAO newbie spotted

you still no answer the question.

Let me ask again

Wetin this mail thing wey de happen for here mean?

Vanquay:
You call yourself a top club but you are here chasing clubs to sign one of your dissident Players...A real top club would have discarded Costa before the league started...All these London Dipshits have a rather exaggerated sense of grandeur...You can't act like this under respected Managers like Ferguson or Mourinho, Contes respect Comes from the Juventus Contra and Italian Mafia so please tell him "Its a far place from Home Pendejo"

Na so....

Skimpledawg:

Holy moly.

This is bloody Mehn..

Uncle Rumdeuter, there is a mail waiting for u here.


Dnt bother signing sir...you are an esteemed customer

What has this got to do with me?

I don't respond to subzero IQ posts you should know that if you've been on this forum for a year

hoopLA:


Substitute or not, this move defies the lame lie that someone has been peddling here about City having an old squad.This is after Pep failed to bring in a 34 year oldDani Alec's after publicly courting him this summer.

It's mind boggling that City bid for a man entering his 30s when it is being theorized that the back four last season was too old.
Let's see how this e-Spider-Man spins this web.

I don't hold briefs for anyone but there are outliers to every argument or position.

I am sure United would have coughed out the same £80M for CR7 today albeit he is 32.

Zlatan was 35 last season and still notched up 28 goals in all competitions for United.

Iniesta is 33 today and is a shadow of himself. Usain Bolts (although not a footballer but you get the point). The bell curve suggests that age more often that not will affect talented players with people like CR7 and Zlatan being the anomalies.

Whether age was the sole reason City flopped last season is another debate entirely. Most of those fullbacks they had last season were purchased not later than 2011 and 6 years is a long time in football.

"It is great," Conte joked, when asked about the[Costa's] interview. "I can tell you that everyone who works in Chelsea knows very well what happened with him last season. It's funny, this interview.




"I'm not interested to continue this issue. He is the past."

Cant see how Costa is not the loser here. Surely by now he must realise that he has no leverage on the club

If Diego Costa loves Atletico so much, why did he leave in the first place? Bleep him

Chelsea Injury Updates: Bakayoko will probably play vs Spurs Hazard probably won't start Pedro in pain from ankle issues #CFC

Eruditor:


I don't hold briefs for anyone but there are outliers to every argument or position.

I am sure United would have coughed out the same £80M for CR7 today albeit he is 32.

Zlatan was 35 last season and still notched up 28 goals in all competitions for United.

Iniesta is 33 today and is a shadow of himself. Usain Bolts (although not a footballer but you get the point). The bell curve suggests that age more often that not will affect talented players with people like CR7 and Zlatan being the anomalies.

Whether age was the sole reason City flopped last season is another debate entirely. Most of those fullbacks they had last season were purchased not later than 2011 and 6 years is a long time in football.

E
We ain't coughing that amount for a 32 yrs old Ronaldo.
No think am.

Eruditor:


I don't hold briefs for anyone but there are outliers to every argument or position.

I am sure United would have coughed out the same £80M for CR7 today albeit he is 32.

Zlatan was 35 last season and still notched up 28 goals in all competitions for United.

Iniesta is 33 today and is a shadow of himself. Usain Bolts (although not a footballer but you get the point). The bell curve suggests that age more often that not will affect talented players with people like CR7 and Zlatan being the anomalies.

Whether age was the sole reason City flopped last season is another debate entirely. Most of those fullbacks they had last season were purchased not later than 2011 and 6 years is a long time in football.

I am not discounting the age thing.
But when someone irresponsibly uses it as basis for poor performance then that is just wrong.
I gave examples of not one but two title winning sides [Man united 2011 and 2013] that had three of its regular starting four at age 30 or over. And my point is that there are several existing and previous scenarios where players over 30 have given above average performances. Not just in football but sport in general.

In basketball, the Chicago Bulls from 95-98 were near the oldest side in the NBA. Michael Jordan at age 35 in 98 not only won an NBA title that year, he was MVP both in the regular season and the finals.
LeBron JAMES is 32,and he averaged a triple double in this years finals. If you are a basketball aficionado you will know what this means statistically. Up till 2017 it had never been done until LeBron.

In tennis, where is Roger Federer getting the strength to win two of the three grand slams already contested for this year?

You mentioned Usain bolt, but he lost the 100m final to a35 year oldJustin Gatlin. And I'm pretty confident that athletics is the place you don't want to go if you're looking for how to prove that older athletes can't cope with competition. Same for boxing where people like Bernard Hopkins were winning world titles into their forties.Ditto for Floyd mayweather who won world titles in his 30s

You have a solid point about their performances as they age but when someone says that is the primary reason for a teams failure, I won't buy it. It's just lazy.

I have tried to make the point about Pep signing rubbish players last season as well as his early treatment of City stalwarts prior to his arrival as reasons for his disappointing season last term.
But no, Clichy Sagna and Zabaletta being over 30 is why Pep went trophiless.
Yet the same City has a 29 year old Otamendi, a 32 year old Kompany still on their books, and reportedly made a bid for a 29 year old Jonny Evans.
How do you marry that with his argument that "football is for young people"?

raumdeuter:


What has this got to do with me?

I don't respond to subzero IQ posts you should know that if you've been on this forum for a year

Ogbeni tell us the reason why your Pep is preparing a second bid for a 29 year old Jonny Evans and stop pretending to be an ostrich though the resemblance is quite uncanny.


All this forming intellectual intelligence won't take you anywhere.

Tomorrow you will want people to take you serious when you sound and look like gorimapa.

Gorimaps!

hoopLA:

I am not discounting the age thing.
But when someone irresponsibly uses it as basis for poor performance then that is just wrong.
I gave examples of not one but two title winning sides [Man united 2011 and 2013] that had three of its regular starting four at age 30 or over. And my point is that there are several existing and previous scenarios where players over 30 have given above average performances. Not just in football but sport in general.

In basketball, the Chicago Bulls from 95-98 were near the oldest side in the NBA. Michael Jordan at age 35 in 98 not only won an NBA title that year, he was MVP both in the regular season and the finals.
LeBron JAMES is 32,and he averaged a triple double in this years finals. If you are a basketball aficionado you will know what this means statistically. Up till 2017 it had never been done until LeBron.

In tennis, where is Roger Federer getting the strength to win two of the three grand slams already contested for this year?

You mentioned Usain bolt, but he lost the 100m final to a35 year oldJustin Gatlin. And I'm pretty confident that athletics is the place you don't want to go if you're looking for how to prove that older athletes can't cope with competition. Same for boxing where people like Bernard Hopkins were winning world titles into their forties.Ditto for Floyd mayweather who won world titles in his 30s

You have a solid point about their performances as they age but when someone says that is the primary reason for a teams failure, I won't buy it. It's just lazy.

I have tried to make the point about Pep signing rubbish players last season as well as his early treatment of City stalwarts prior to his arrival as reasons for his disappointing season last term.
But no, Clichy Sagna and Zabaletta being over 30 is why Pep went trophiless.
Yet the same City has a 29 year old Otamendi, a 32 year old Kompany still on their books, and reportedly made a bid for a 29 year old Jonny Evans.
How do you marry that with his argument that "football is for young people"?

You can't compare basketball or athletics to football sorry.

The impact on the body is not the same. Not even close.

Basketball is a start and stop game by default , and that's not even factoring in 4 breaks in play, and numerous time outs. And they only play for 48 minutes.

100m athletic race is done in 10 seconds.

Don't compare people who run 10km per game to someone that rims 4km per game.

By default footballers in the EPL do at least double the work of Basketballers and almost 10000% of what 100m sprinters do, with far fewer breaks.

Keep your comparison to football only.

And for the record, i agree 100% football is a young man's game. Especially in this day and age. Some players with great genetics and a strict diet and physical regimen can delay the process - but to compete at the top level where city is, ultimately youth is a key factor.

hoopLA pummelling apari since 1960

hoopLA:

Ogbeni tell us the reason why your Pep is preparing a second bid for a 29 year old Jonny Evans and stop pretending to be an ostrich though the resemblance is quite uncanny.


All this forming intellectual intelligence won't take you anywhere.

Tomorrow you will want people to take you serious when you sound and look like gorimapa.

Raumdeuter this mail was sent to you directly but I have to resend it as part of the policy of Cobham express services. Please do well to respond to it. Thank you sir.

Nihilist:


You can't compare basketball or athletics to football sorry.

The impact on the body is not the same. Not even close.

Basketball is a start and stop game by default , and that's not even factoring in 4 breaks in play, and numerous time outs. And they only play for 48 minutes.

100m athletic race is done in 10 seconds.

Don't compare people who run 10km per game to someone that rims 4km per game.

By default footballers in the EPL do at least double the work of Basketballers and almost 10000% of what 100m sprinters do, with far fewer breaks.

Keep your comparison to football only.

And for the record, i agree 100% football is a young man's game. Especially in this day and age. Some players with great genetics and a strict diet and physical regimen can delay the process - but to compete at the top level where city is, ultimately youth is a key factor.

Good points raised however what age brackets are you referring to as youths here?

hoopLA:

Ogbeni tell us the reason why your Pep is preparing a second bid for a 29 year old Jonny Evans and stop pretending to be an ostrich though the resemblance is quite uncanny.


All this forming intellectual intelligence won't take you anywhere.

Tomorrow you will want people to take you serious when you sound and look like gorimapa.

skimledawg do the needful. O diggz already forwarded the mail

unfortunately such mail might end Dayo's Spam folder

Elnino4ladies:
Chelsea Injury Updates: Bakayoko will probably play vs Spurs Hazard probably won't start Pedro in pain from ankle issues #CFC

Good news, I would like to see Luiz in Midfield in first half. Apart from Batshuayi on the bench with Morata FW, I think this formation is the best we have now.

Masunda/Boga from the flank.

Rudiger and Christensen looks pretty composed at the back. I want to see more of 'em before Cahill comes back.

Chelsea to win or draw this game, there's no two ways about it. #KTBFFH #CFC

diggz:


Good points raised however what age brackets are you referring to as youths here?

There's a reason why your peak in football is widely regarded as being between 26-28 as an outfield player.

Once you hit 29, you're old. Once you hit 30 as a winger or speedy striker, you're already on your way to the scrap heap. Target men strikers, Defensive Midfielders and Centrebacks who don't have to run as much can last till 33-34 max. Then you have the consummate professionals with good genetics like Lahm, Ororo, Giggs, Lampard, and Ibra who can eke out a decent level of performance before finding their way to America.

Football at coal tar level is brutal on the body let alone football , let alone top level. Ask Batistuta why he once asked a doctor to amputate his legs, or Crespo that has almost no cartilage left in his knee. Just look at Rooney or Zabaleta with white hairs in their beard and nothing left naturally on their chrome domes - them never even reach 35 sef.

Nihilist:


There's a reason why your peak in football is widely regarded as being between 26-28 as an outfield player.

Once you hit 29, you're old. Once you hit 30 as a winger or speedy striker, you're already on your way to the scrap heap. Target men strikers, Defensive Midfielders and Centrebacks who don't have to run as much can last till 33-34 max. Then you have the consummate professionals with good genetics like Lahm, Ororo, Giggs, Lampard, and Ibra who can eke out a decent level of performance before finding their way to America.

Football at coal tar level is brutal on the body let alone football , let alone top level. Ask Batistuta why he once asked a doctor to amputate his legs, or Crespo that has almost no cartilage left in his knee. Just look at Rooney or Zabaleta with white hairs in their beard and nothing left naturally on their chrome domes - them never even reach 35 sef.

I do agree with certain aspects of your post however I will need to address the areas of your post I don't agree with later today.

Kindly say yes or no to this qxn pls.....

Do you think Pep failed to win a single trophy last season solely due to the age of his players? YES or NO please...

Nihilist:


You can't compare basketball or athletics to football sorry.

The impact on the body is not the same. Not even close.

Basketball is a start and stop game by default , and that's not even factoring in 4 breaks in play, and numerous time outs. And they only play for 48 minutes.

100m athletic race is done in 10 seconds.

Don't compare people who run 10km per game to someone that rims 4km per game.

By default footballers in the EPL do at least double the work of Basketballers and almost 10000% of what 100m sprinters do, with far fewer breaks.

Keep your comparison to football only.

And for the record, i agree 100% football is a young man's game. Especially in this day and age. Some players with great genetics and a strict diet and physical regimen can delay the process - but to compete at the top level where city is, ultimately youth is a key factor.

This is why I discriminate based on intelligence. Someone is comparing basketball boxing and even Tennis to football?

This is an article on the topic

Basketball: NBA players run nowhere near the oft-cited five miles per game. According to STATS, the player who ran the farthest per game in 2012 was Luol Deng of the Chicago Bulls, at 2.72 miles on average.

Tennis: Don't let the relatively small court fool you. Depending on their style of game, players may run 3 to 5 miles during a five-set match, and in some cases even more. That's a lot of back-and-forth.

And the winner is...

Soccer: Long games, a massive field and a constantly moving ball add up to serious distance for soccer players. STATS puts the average at 7 miles per game depending on position, and as much as 9.5 miles for some players (not including goalies, of course).
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/sports-run-stats-show-burns-shoe-leather-article-1.1307763

Nowadays midfielders cover 13km easily.

Nihilist:


There's a reason why your peak in football is widely regarded as being between 26-28 as an outfield player.

Once you hit 29, you're old. Once you hit 30 as a winger or speedy striker, you're already on your way to the scrap heap. Target men strikers, Defensive Midfielders and Centrebacks who don't have to run as much can last till 33-34 max. Then you have the consummate professionals with good genetics like Lahm, Ororo, Giggs, Lampard, and Ibra who can eke out a decent level of performance before finding their way to America.

Football at coal tar level is brutal on the body let alone football , let alone top level. Ask Batistuta why he once asked a doctor to amputate his legs, or Crespo that has almost no cartilage left in his knee. Just look at Rooney or Zabaleta with white hairs in their beard and nothing left naturally on their chrome domes - them never even reach 35 sef.

What you have said is a fact. Arguing against it means one is either stupid or tone deaf.

But my gripe is that proponents of this over 30 thing don't want to accept that those who are that age can actually contribute meaningfully.

For the record, I brought those sports just to show that it is not restricted to just football alone. And as start and stop a game as basketball is, it is almost as intense physically, if not as intense, as football. You might want to disagree.But that is another argument for another day.

If people like Oliver Kahn can drag their sides to World Cup finals single handedly and win Golden Balls, or Zidane and Cannavaro can be both gold and silver ball winners in the same World Cup, with the latter even winning WPOTY, or people like Zlatan can hit nearly 30 goals in a season then I'm not sure what dayo's point is when he blames City's fortunes on an ageing defense last season.

diggz:


I do agree with certain aspects of your post however I will need to address the areas of your post I don't agree with later today.

Kindly say yes or no to this qxn pls.....

Do you think Pep failed to win a single trophy last season solely due to the age of his players? YES or NO please...

Man City's weakest unit was their defence. Kompany was injured most of the season, and Pep was often forced to play Kolarov, Sagna and Clichy in a 4 man defence.

Of course, there are several reasons why Pep failed, but age of the players he had was definitely a key reason.

raumdeuter:


This is why I discriminate based on intelligence. Someone is comparing basketball boxing and even Tennis to football?

This is an article on the topic



Nowadays midfielders cover 13km easily.

Wereyyy


hoopla you have a parcel here

Nihilist:


There's a reason why your peak in football is widely regarded as being between 26-28 as an outfield player.

Once you hit 29, you're old. Once you hit 30 as a winger or speedy striker, you're already on your way to the scrap heap. Target men strikers, Defensive Midfielders and Centrebacks who don't have to run as much can last till 33-34 max. Then you have the consummate professionals with good genetics like Lahm, Ororo, Giggs, Lampard, and Ibra who can eke out a decent level of performance before finding their way to America.

Football at coal tar level is brutal on the body let alone football , let alone top level. Ask Batistuta why he once asked a doctor to amputate his legs, or Crespo that has almost no cartilage left in his knee. Just look at Rooney or Zabaleta with white hairs in their beard and nothing left naturally on their chrome domes - them never even reach 35 sef.

This right here is sensible reasoning and which anyone who watches football and has a brain will agree with. You have coaches of the game saying they wont give more than 1 yr extension to players over 30 and people think its a joke.

Some lab rats will now look at over 2,000 players and bring 5 who are decent over 30 as evidence.

I wonder what they teach in colleges nowadays when basic critical reasoning that you do in primary school would have prepared you for

diggz:


I do agree with certain aspects of your post however I will need to address the areas of your post I don't agree with later today.

Kindly say yes or no to this qxn pls.....

Do you think Pep failed to win a single trophy last season solely due to the age of his players? YES or NO please...

The crux of the matter right there.

And till we get the true answer to that we all are doing verbal gymnastics.

hoopLA:


What you have said is a fact. Arguing against it means one is either stupid or tone deaf.

But my gripe is that proponents of this over 30 thing don't want to accept that those who are that age can actually contribute meaningfully.

For the record, I brought those sports just to show that it is not restricted to just football alone. And as start and stop a game as basketball is, it is almost as intense physically, if not as intense, as football. You might want to disagree.But that is another argument for another day.

If people like Oliver Kahn can drag their sides to World Cup finals single handedly and win Golden Balls, or Zidane and Cannavaro can be both gold and silver ball winners in the same World Cup, with the latter even winning WPOTY, or people like Zlatan can hit nearly 30 goals in a season then I'm not sure what dayo's point is when he blames City's fortunes on an ageing defense last season.

I have said in the past I help people to self diagnose their ailment and in 2hrs you have been able to diagnoze yours which is deafness and stupidity

This tool actually agreed here with what he has been fighting against since. That is why I said morrons shouldnt be allowed to use the internet, He disagreed age is a factor in one post, later he agreed age is a factor

diggz:


Wereyyy


hoopla you have a parcel here

Return that smelly package.

When someone doesn't understand the difference between a comparison and an example, he starts forming intelligence.

When old people are doing things that their younger counterparts can't even fathom in the same sports, isn't that a sign that older people can still cut it? Or are the ones I listed in those sports the only participants in their sports? Or are all basketballers, tennis players,athletes or boxers all above 30?

But as usual this habitual apologist won't apply simple perspective when reading.

raumdeuter:


I have said in the past I help people to self diagnose their ailment and in 2hrs you have been able to diagnoze yours which is deafness and stupidity

This tool actually agreed here with what he has been fighting against since. That is why I said morrons shouldnt be allowed to use the internet, He disagreed age is a factor in one post, later he agreed age is a factor

Zombie show me where I exclusively said older athletes are not liabilities.