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Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 7:55pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Yyeske:
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Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 7:56pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
steppins:If no declaring of Biafra tomorrow, Amadiora fall on you |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 7:58pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
[quote author=steppins post=59881590][/quote]Ok, let me entertain you you a little, I need water melon and apple |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 8:02pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Yyeske:
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Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Basic123: 8:03pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
steppins:Why beating about the bush na after you've shifted your goal post ? Google history of call for restructuring in Nigeria,you will be well schooled,yorubas dont make mouth like yIGBOs. Yorubas think before acting,those people that acted before thinking and wasted 3000 000 of themselves in the name of bravery will call it cowardice,so,yorubas are not bothered by the looosers name-calling 1 Like |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 8:07pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
[quote author=steppins post=59881777][/quote]If no Biafra tomorrow then I know you are an online rannter |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 8:18pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Yyeske:
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Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 8:21pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Basic123:Scheming instead of facing your fears is the life of a coward. Igbos are brave and we have taken the Bull by the horns to say we're no longer interested in one Nigeria. Cowards! |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Basic123: 8:32pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
steppins:fools!....Acting before thinking. 1 Like |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 8:38pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Basic123:Freedom is ours. Mandela fought for freedom and he finally got it after so many years. We'll get ours soon. Prepare for Biafraexit. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by juman(m): 8:42pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Fake news. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by juman(m): 8:42pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
MediumStout: You are lying. When sitting at home was called, it was widely observed. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Basic123: 8:52pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
steppins:Best of luck.....That day will be one of my happiest days 1 Like |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nightwolf1: 8:52pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Yyeske: Them dey write igbo on forehead? Oboy go sleep. By the way u Shud be speaking to ipob not igbo. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 9:32pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Nightwolf1:I don't have problems with Nigerians and Igbos, na IPOB miscreants I dey hit, they can call me whatever but I must hit them everyday 1 Like |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nobody: 9:33pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
HungerBAD: This train has long left the station. Epistles won't change anything. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by steppins: 9:45pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Basic123:If I hear. Fake happy day. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nightwolf1: 9:49pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Yyeske: Ipob miscreants have issues with Nigerian criminals. So u are not different from them |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 11:01pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Nightwolf1:Who be dis one abeg? |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 11:26pm On Aug 27, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Ndi Omambala have made up their minds. Dare us,, I love we have warned Obiano befor |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Basic123: 2:51am On Aug 28, 2017 |
steppins:Who cares about how a deluded sees it |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by deji17: 3:43am On Aug 28, 2017 |
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Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nobody: 3:55am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Are Igbos agitating for Biafra? Which poll has ever been done that proves that Igbos support the agitation? Regarding the sit at home, widely observed is such a vague term, because the sponsors of IPOB agitation also control our news media they can paint a fake picture that the sit at home protest was observed when it wasn't. juman: ______________________ We are DANites members of DAN - Detribalised Association of Nigeria : DANites are duty bound to a) make post to challenge tribal bigotry, b) make post to challenge agitation to breakup Nigeria, c) like and share posts of other DANite and others from detribalised Nigerians . d) automatically added to list of Danites detribalised and anti-breakup peeps e) follow all listed Danites illuminated93, Addy003, 9japrof, Ikhilor, GQman, neocortex, TheHistorian, Shaytun, sirjerry, WORDWORLD, amanda2013, wetinconsignme, freshest4live, ameri9ja, Okoroawusa, onward4life, Almaheed, genbuhari, Axeman2, lonelydora, LoveMachine, darkckUSA, mrdashing10, henitan24, caseless, amah91, obaamah, Rett0, ediss, maximunimpact, anonynymous, maxiflexy, reel14, Clean2016, isalegan2, ilekokonit, xtianh, drabeey, jumper524, mrmystro Please copy this block of text and save it on your PC and then paste it to bottom of your posts. Join our email list by emailing: wetinconsignme@asia.com as soon as you can manage to . If you want to become a Danite, then you are already one, simply quote me to add to our list. 1 Like |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by paschu: 6:20am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Some of your points - like requirements for Visa - were not valid though. Ever traveled to any part of West Africa? Did you require Visa? Rarely, also, would you have any issues starting and running a legitimate business in those places as an Ecowas citizen. The other issues you raised were extreme too. I want to believe that Nigeria would be smart enough not to take extreme measures against Biafra. Extreme measures won't be to Nigeria's advantage at all, as there are a plethora of political options which Biafra may adopt in such cases. For example, ever wondered how the tiny Eastern European nations (like Estonia, for instance) are able to keep the assertive Russia and domineering Western Europe in check? Go figure. In our context though, Biafra cannot be called tiny by any stretch of imagination. greenpasture: |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nobody: 8:21am On Aug 28, 2017 |
K paschu: Good I have been looking for someone to talk to on this topic. First off, the laws I quote are extant laws. No one would be applying punitive laws against Biafra. Rather, Biafra would require exemptions from current laws through new legislation or more likely amendment of current laws. Secondly Biafra does not automatically become a member of Ecowas. There are admission requirements and processes under the Lome treaty that have to be complied with. This can take at least earliest 3-5 years - this is with the full consent of all current council members. There are a myriad of legal minefields to be navigated. Let me take double tax. With a specific double tax treaty passed by the house and signed by the president, biafran citizens in Nigeria would pay two taxes. It might not look like much but it's a big deal. I would be interested to know the "plethora" of political and may I even add financial options available to Biafra in the event that Nigeria chooses to have a " hard Biafrexit" Let me conclude by saying that I support Biafrans right to self determination and I fully support its exit from Nigeria. I believe that Biafrans share greater ethnic affinity to the Cameroon and central african nations than they do with any of the major tribes currently in Nigeria ( outside of mixed marriages). The yorubas have affinity with the beninoise of Benin Republic, the Saros ( of Sierra Leone and of course the Togolese and outside Nigeria Brazil and Cuba. The North connects with the Maghreb region and ultimately Arabia. The reconnection of Biafra to Central Africa is ultimately unavoidable and perhaps even necessary for both Biafra and the Central african economic union. Cameroon and not Nigeria is likely to pose a greater irritant to a sovereign Biafra. However, I do not see its current feasibility. In my opinion it would take at least 15-20 years to actualize because it would require a massive domestication of its economy within its own borders. ( let us even leave the issues of borders) as a prelude, and the exit of all characters involved in the the War. That generation is too emotional about the topic . Transfer of assets and economy must happen before the separation because what are currently local bank transfers and the movement of currency would come under an entirely different legal regime. A change in the mindset of igbo businessmen to locate and relocate assets within Biafran borders is an absolute must. My advice is that supporters of Biafra tone down the rhetoric and begin with immediate effect, the fundamental pre requisites of economic domestication. I look forward to your comments and observations. Modification. I thought to add that Ecowas laws regarding setting up of businesses does not oust the supremacy of local laws. An Ecowas visa is an on arrival, time limited one and I does not grant automatic right to residency or business activation. Just so you know. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nightwolf1: 10:09am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Yyeske: All of Una na the same. Nonsense people |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nightwolf1: 11:18am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Yyeske: So you are a Yoruba man claiming omambala? Kai, thunder fire monkey. little wonder your constant attacks on Biafrans yet u run undercover claiming Igbo origin. Shame on you. foolish yoruba man. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 11:25am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Nightwolf1:Stop following me you this Somali Jew |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 11:28am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Nightwolf1:Why e dey pain you, you this Pakistani Jew |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Yyeske(m): 11:30am On Aug 28, 2017 |
greenpasture:Stop wasting your data educating those brainwashed miscreants, they will insult you if you are not careful. Leave them to me |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by Nightwolf1: 11:34am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Yyeske: Let me join biafrans and echo ur name.AFONJA the treacherous being. |
Re: Despite Agitation, Igbos Obtain More National ID Cards, International Passports by paschu: 11:38am On Aug 28, 2017 |
Good and so refreshing to hear your narrative. Unfortunately I have no background in Law as seems to be your case. Thus my views on the legal side of the issues may not be adequate. Nonetheless, my thoughts are as follows: 1). I am actually not so sure I understood what you meant by "domestication of the economy". Neither do I see why that should be a pre-requisite to Biafra restoration. Is itfor the avoidance of double taxation?? Well, if by "domestication" you mean the RELOCATION of businesses to the Biafran territories, then I would say NO, that won't be necessary. On the contrary, I'd advocate the outward bound movement. Rather than moving existing Nigerian business back to East PRIOR to independence, I'd prefer they move those businesses further away into other friendly continents or countries, pending when the exit treaty is ratified. 2) I think taxes are paid where the earners live. Thus, there can only be double taxation if Biafra chooses to tax its diaspora population. The other likely causative scenario is where Nigeria chooses to impose a punitive tax regime on all remittances to Biafra. Otherwise, folks with businesses in both Biafra and Nigeria will just have to operate the two as separate entities registered in different jurisdictions. 3) Regarding Banking systems, that won't be an issue. The framework is there already. The only new policy that may apply is the new exchange rate and currency conversion logistics. And if Nigeria decides to get off its primitive behind and do a good job (rather than seeing Biafra as a threat) they may even have Naira adopted as legal tender in Biafra - at least at the beginning. Ordinarily, we buy stuff from all over the world using our debit cards. In fact, as we speak, it's possible to have funds sent to your local bank account from the US without using a wire transfer system. So why not from Nigeria to Biafra and the other way round? 4) I am not sure about the Central Africa reconnection or politics. And I assume that there is no need for a forceful exit. Thus the negotiation for Biafra exit can go on AT THE SAME TIME with consultations for Ecowas membership. So this will help to speed things up. And yes, your right to setting up a business in an Ecowas state as a visiting Ecowas national does not invalidate the domestic requirements of the host nation. But no, I don't think you need a visa even on arrival. https://www.uneca.org/pages/ecowas-free-movement-persons 5)Regarding the "plethora of options", I think for instance, Biafra may have an option to enact a "hugely controversial" Bilateral relations with distant foreign countries, if Nigeria makes the terms for harmonious co-existence and synergy unattractive. greenpasture: |
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