One sad thing I have noticed on this platform is that most commenters are either Islamophobes or simply lack clear objectivity in their arguments.

The prof brought out six core issues citing them one after another in comparison to what our Christian patriots enjoy in the same democracy that is said to be for the "people."
Instead of some over grown kids to counter his points without insults they would rather label him a jihadist and call Islaam a blood thirsty religion when those who have committed the highest number of killings in this world share the same religion(christianity) with them.
You may say no that George Bush, Tony Blair and those who supported the toppling of Saddam Hussein's government and on whose behest half a million children in Iraq were killed are not blood thirsty and are not "jihadist" propagating the adoption of democracy under the nuzzle of gun barrels and war tanks.

If we go into history you will be shock to find out that those who killed the most are not even muslims, in fact, the killings done by those who are Christians will put all the killings done by muslims such as :Saddam Hussein ,Osama Bin Laden and their likes to shame.
You may say,you see, those people you cited didn't kill for the purpose of spreading Christianity.I'll say, no doubt,but they are Christians in the first instance,and I know as student of comparative religion there is no where Christ called for the killing of innocent people similarly in Islaam, there is no where were it says the killing of innocent people is allowed(I know some smart Alec will quote chapter 9 of the Quran to counter this point, however that claim is old and used whereas the chapter was revealed clearly for war situations not in peaceful situation)

Furthermore, I can see how shallow some of the responses to this post are and how naive most people can be.
When it is from Islaam even when it clearly applies to ONLY muslims the Christians out of their bigotry scream Islaamisation,but when the law favours them at the detriment of muslims they simply tell us to go to hell.
If this isn't bigotry,I don't know what is.

Allow Hijabs? Yes

Make Friday work free? NO

MURIC like CAN likes oversabi.

Demmzy15:
Accept it or not, Islam influenced Yoruba religion. As Muslims we believe that God sent Prophets and Messengers to the whole world with Prophet Muhammad(Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Salam) being the last, some scholars suggested that the Yoruba religion likely originated as a monotheistic religion before it was corrupted after some years.

And sorry to burst your bubble, I'm not from Ilorin. I'm Igbomina!

Islam started about 1500 years back with Muhammed. Excavated artefacts and human remains put Yoruba group and Yoruba religion at a much earlier date.

Asides that, Islam got into Yoruba land around 15th/16th century through Oyo and/or Iwo but on a very low scale until around 18th and 19th century when people began adopting Islamic names in Oyo provinces NOat because they wanted Islam but because they needed to prevent Ilorin war boys who attacked only non-muslims from pillaging their properties and taking their wives and kids. As a result, most offsprings not knowing how their names came about adopted the religion from where their names came.

Researched facts through several studies in History, Ethnigraphy & Archeology established that Yoruba civilisation and Yoruba religion/institutions had long existed in a very well fashioned and intelligently complex manner before Islam touched Yoruba land.

Please focus on selling and defending your Islam. Do not slip in and twist Yoruba history while defending your religion. I’m sure Allah & Muhammed (SAW) both frown at lies and falsehood. If you have to speak on Yoruba history, put the Quran down & read properly researched texts instead.

I shake my head over how religions created by fellow men have become a strong identity for people.

diadem10:


Nope! Ifa pre-dates mohammed! That I know.

And yes, Islam may have influenced Yoruba culture but christianity also did. But that doesn't mean I'm subjected to the religion. I'm first a Yoruba above anything else!

Neither of the religions influenced Yoruba culture, it is the other way around.

Yoruba culture influenced how these religions are practised in Yoruba land.

And you are right, Isese not just Ifa which is is one of the many parts of Isese, pre-dates Islam in Yoruba land and pre-dates Muhammed the Prophet.

The thread had been really interesting but what I can see here mostly are ignorance and sensational news inaction.
I will say ignorance since I can see it everywhere a lot of people do not know about international politics or even the local politics of where they live.
The second thing is fear and this is brought about by sensational News or information from newspaper and other religious bigot.

If Muslims are the one fighting to enshrine Islam or and they are the ones that goes on killing spree such as done by Boko Haram, ISIS etc, then I think they should have moved to Myanmar, Burma where Muslims are been really persecuted and killed on Daily basis. But I have not heard any of them going there.

If Muslims are really destroying things and they are for no good. Why is Dubai, Oman, and others where they are today, you know as well as I know that everybody dream of Dubai.

Its true Muslims have there ways of life and rights, but you know that getting their rights does not in anyway erode your rights. They want Sharia Court they did not say you should be judged by their Law. They want their Females to wear hijab they did not say your females should wear it even all the request from the Professor is in no way compelling Christians to be forced to do it or denying Christians their rights.
So the question is why the shout and cry why the abuses why or how will this divide the country?

There had been several wrong quote and misinformation everywhere even on this thread and it makes me wonder the more that we see ignorance more where we thought there should be knowledge and knowledge is nowadays seen in odd places.
If we asked everybody here to share there qualifications I know it will really be alarming what we will see, but despite that fact we still see or read such profane words everywhere.

That means the saying has always been right that no matter the qualifications it does not amount to knowledge or wisdom.

We all need to know that God created all and either you are a Muslim or Christians or pagan you are first Human.

Then what will I loose if the Christians are in churches everyday and the Muslims are in the Mosque while the pagan are in their shrine. I think I will loose nothing. If the Muslims wear their Caps or Hijab and the Christians wear their Gabs or the pagan wear his robes, will I also loose anything? If I employ them and they are all doing what I gave to them to do perfectly surpassing my target what will I also loose?
Even if they all wear there religious garment to the office will that affect productivity? I dont think so.

To make Nigeria a Country we first need to accept each other and also believe in the country Understand our differences and ready to forge ahead. Its like a family we are all not same and despite that fact we all understand our differences and still bear same name.
On the flip side how did Mary, the mother of Jesus dressed? How did Jesus dressed? How are the Egyptian and Roman dressing when Jesus was dressing the way he dresses and Mary was covering her head?

Religion is never a Curse, unless you make it to yourself. If Adam is the first man on earth and he is not recorded to be a pagan then how did our forbears traditional worshipers?
What is Islamizing or Christianising in any of this issue? If they had all he wants does that changed your religion? now the VP is a Christian, the Budget, the Finance, the CBN governor and most economic team members does that Christianise Nigerian Money or Economy or does that says Dangote should be poor. Only a Myopic mind shares such thought.
Every religion comes with Civilisation since Religion itself its Civilisation, if you don't know read. but to help you think Who stops the Killing of Twins? What was the person quoting as the basis? Who brings the idea of women are not property to be inherited but Human that can also share in inheritance and can also own things?

Do not follow the way of Ignorance and rather exercise unnecessary fear, but seek Understanding first. Do not continue the wrong way of hate and let us strive to be Sincere and accept each other.

erico2k2:

Name one Christian law .

Haha, this shows how brainwashed most of our muslim brothers have let themselves be, These reasons stated in the content of this topic of discuss are ridiculous and unfounded.
The muslims wants to play the victims card, talk arrant lies about how they're victimized in an economy where they virtually make the laws. Even the new 100naira note was rejected becuz it didn't carry the arabic signs.
Its Really Funny

Demmzy15:
Imagine the undercover potor saying Syrian refugees should come out and speak from Saudi Arabia, very confused fellow. The other said why are Yorubas not Sultan? It's just like saying why are Fulanis or Hausas not Kings of Saudi Arabia

Tellam say A Hausa man cannot become a sultan, even a Fulani man from Adamawa or Bauchi cannot be the sultan.

A Fulani from sokoto cannot become sultan except if he is a descendent of Danfodio.

It is tradition.

OjukwuWarBird:
Then divide the country into Islamic and Christian nations.

and primitive traditional nations.

yang:
These animals have started showing their true colors

A well orchestrated islamisation plan

why can't you people form your own country and impose all the sharia laws that you want

You have finished propagating your evil it in the North to form boko haram with funds from saudi arabia now the next thing is to continue the jihad down south

The sooner we divide this zoo called nigeria the better for everyone

This is clearly talking before thinking.
You think having the highest number of likes and shares means that you've made a meaninful point.
You use clear objective and well marshalled incontrovertible facts to establish your point not half-witted response clothes with insults.

It is really unfortunate some of you get over yourselves thinking you've made a strong argument based on the likes you get when majority of the people egging you on are parichial in their thoughts and are largely naive of what they think they know.

The prof,raised some points which he clearly elucudated without insults and you as "educated" are as ut appears.I want you to counter his points without insults.

And lest I forget,claiming muslims want to Islaamize Nigeria is as lame as your first point which only exposes your level of ignorance.
When we muslims ask for these laws we only ask it for ourselves not you(christians or anybody for that matter),or has anybody forced you(there is no compulsion in Islaam.- Quraan 2:225) to accept our ways?
If we marry four wives and instruct them as directed by our Creator to cover themselves with the hijaab (ike you would sheepishly say dressed as ninjas or putting on tarpulin) leave us alone since nobody is telling your female folks to dress like us as you've chosen to dress the way you want.
Is this too difficult to ask?

Note these points:
1.Marriage
2.Dressing
3.Free-mixing
3.Business
4.Family
5.Life
and many other things besidesvare well defined in Islaam,and we are not christians who claim to be followers of Jesus today and follow Saul of Tarsus(Paul) tomorrow just to remain relevant.

Tolerance doesn't mean I become you and you become me,it is knowing and living with our differences.

Dazzol.

jaggabban:


Ode. And indeed SE(xtian) states are more developed than northern States. Olodo

okponu virgin hunter u guys should keep ur religion to urself we want to make progress u guys r too archaic.

toye440:

okponu virgin hunter u guys should keep ur religion to urself we want to make progress u guys r too archaic.

Insults always. Na wa o. What is virgin hunter sef ?

ToZaraWithaZ:
Damn! You need to go back to school. Your annoyed teachers who were paid peanuts by the management of your substandard school never cared about your education. Only if there had been someone around to advise daddy to have invested more in your studies - he wouldn't be reaping such rotten fruits.

Your critical thinking skills are of incredibly poor quality, consequence of cheap education.

and you can as well carry all the curse you just said to yourself to your generation.. Nonsense human being

Fazemood:

Haha, this shows how brainwashed most of our muslim brothers have let themselves be, These reasons stated in the content of this topic of discuss are ridiculous and unfounded.
The muslims wants to play the victims card, talk arrant lies about how they're victimized in an economy where they virtually make the laws. Even the new 100naira note was rejected becuz it didn't carry the arabic signs.
Its Really Funny

Im telling you, Im still waiting for the christian Law, Im still yet to be made to know one!

khalilullaah:



This is clearly talking before thinking.
You think having the highest number of likes and shares means that you've made a meaninful point.
You use clear objective and well marshalled incontrovertible facts to establish your point not half-witted response clothes with insults.

It is really unfortunate some of you get over yourselves thinking you've made a strong argument based on the likes you get when majority of the people egging you on are parichial in their thoughts and are largely naive of what they think they know.

The prof,raised some points which he clearly elucudated without insults and you as "educated" are as ut appears.I want you to counter his points without insults.

And lest I forget,claiming muslims want to Islaamize Nigeria is as lame as your first point which only exposes your level of ignorance.
When we muslims ask for these laws we only ask it for ourselves not you(christians or anybody for that matter),or has anybody forced you(there is no compulsion in Islaam.- Quraan 2:225) to accept our ways?
If we marry four wives and instruct them as directed by our Creator to cover themselves with the hijaab (ike you would sheepishly say dressed as ninjas or putting on tarpulin) leave us alone since nobody is telling your female folks to dress like us as you've chosen to dress the way you want.
Is this too difficult to ask?

Note these points:
1.Marriage
2.Dressing
3.Free-mixing
3.Business
4.Family
5.Life
and many other things besidesvare well defined in Islaam,and we are not christians who claim to be followers of Jesus today and follow Saul of Tarsus(Paul) tomorrow just to remain relevant.

Tolerance doesn't mean I become you and you become me,it is knowing and living with our differences.

Dazzol.

These points are valid
marriage,famil and life etc however they are not political, what you should know is this.islam is not a political way of life rather a Religion.People are free to chose waht religion they want to practice and Religion should never be mixed with politics.if you want to enact law that governs more than one person then thats politics cos you need consultation.This is the way the EU and US manage to keep everyone happy.There is nothing like Christianity in the UK even though it claims christian values.

Ilumire:
The thread had been really interesting but what I can see here mostly are ignorance and sensational news inaction.
I will say ignorance since I can see it everywhere a lot of people do not know about international politics or even the local politics of where they live.
The second thing is fear and this is brought about by sensational News or information from newspaper and other religious bigot.

If Muslims are the one fighting to enshrine Islam or and they are the ones that goes on killing spree such as done by Boko Haram, ISIS etc, then I think they should have moved to Myanmar, Burma where Muslims are been really persecuted and killed on Daily basis. But I have not heard any of them going there.

If Muslims are really destroying things and they are for no good. Why is Dubai, Oman, and others where they are today, you know as well as I know that everybody dream of Dubai.

Its true Muslims have there ways of life and rights, but you know that getting their rights does not in anyway erode your rights. They want Sharia Court they did not say you should be judged by their Law. They want their Females to wear hijab they did not say your females should wear it even all the request from the Professor is in no way compelling Christians to be forced to do it or denying Christians their rights.
So the question is why the shout and cry why the abuses why or how will this divide the country?

There had been several wrong quote and misinformation everywhere even on this thread and it makes me wonder the more that we see ignorance more where we thought there should be knowledge and knowledge is nowadays seen in odd places.
If we asked everybody here to share there qualifications I know it will really be alarming what we will see, but despite that fact we still see or read such profane words everywhere.

That means the saying has always been right that no matter the qualifications it does not amount to knowledge or wisdom.

We all need to know that God created all and either you are a Muslim or Christians or pagan you are first Human.

Then what will I loose if the Christians are in churches everyday and the Muslims are in the Mosque while the pagan are in their shrine. I think I will loose nothing. If the Muslims wear their Caps or Hijab and the Christians wear their Gabs or the pagan wear his robes, will I also loose anything? If I employ them and they are all doing what I gave to them to do perfectly surpassing my target what will I also loose?
Even if they all wear there religious garment to the office will that affect productivity? I dont think so.

To make Nigeria a Country we first need to accept each other and also believe in the country Understand our differences and ready to forge ahead. Its like a family we are all not same and despite that fact we all understand our differences and still bear same name.
On the flip side how did Mary, the mother of Jesus dressed? How did Jesus dressed? How are the Egyptian and Roman dressing when Jesus was dressing the way he dresses and Mary was covering her head?

Religion is never a Curse, unless you make it to yourself. If Adam is the first man on earth and he is not recorded to be a pagan then how did our forbears traditional worshipers?
What is Islamizing or Christianising in any of this issue? If they had all he wants does that changed your religion? now the VP is a Christian, the Budget, the Finance, the CBN governor and most economic team members does that Christianise Nigerian Money or Economy or does that says Dangote should be poor. Only a Myopic mind shares such thought.
Every religion comes with Civilisation since Religion itself its Civilisation, if you don't know read. but to help you think Who stops the Killing of Twins? What was the person quoting as the basis? Who brings the idea of women are not property to be inherited but Human that can also share in inheritance and can also own things?

Do not follow the way of Ignorance and rather exercise unnecessary fear, but seek Understanding first. Do not continue the wrong way of hate and let us strive to be Sincere and accept each other.

The UAE, is American thats the Gospel truth, check where they all go and get educated, also check where they build their schools.

OBAGADAFFI:
”Six: There is no single Shari’ah court in South Western Nigeria where Muslims constitute the majority. This is contrary to what obtained in Yorubaland before the advent of the British. There were Shariah courts in Ede, Iwo, Ikirun, Ibadan, etc. Yoruba Muslims are now compelled to take their civil matters like inheritance, marriage, etc to Christo-Western courts. This is preposterous and unacceptable.

When did Muslims constitute a Majority in the SW

The SW is muslim dominated ......Muslims are more.than christains

Ola17:

I wouldn't be drawn into any religious imbroglio but this group's unfounded claims is quite worrisome.

Me I think Yoruba Muslims are more than the Christian, if you ask me.

erico2k2:

The UAE, is American thats the Gospel truth, check where they all go and get educated, also check where they build their schools.

You sound funny. Is UAE in America or UAE citizens studied in America? If they studied in America were they using the Knowledge to develop there country or America? Are they been Govern by Americams or have you seen any American in the Cabinet of their Government.

Is Oman also American? Do you Know how Libya was before the American Invasion? Do you know their GDP ? Knowledge is Important.

We also need to know about International Politics and dont let us be seeing things only from the Mainstream Media. Know the Truth and the Truth we help us all

Ilumire:


You sound funny. Is UAE in America or UAE citizens studied in America? If they studied in America were they using the Knowledge to develop there country or America? Are they been Govern by Americams or have you seen any American in the Cabinet of their Government.

Is Oman also American? Do you Know how Libya was before the American Invasion? Do you know their GDP ? Knowledge is Important.

We also need to know about International Politics and dont let us be seeing things only from the Mainstream Media. Know the Truth and the Truth we help us all

You missed the point,Im telling you teh development in the UAE was sparked by teh USA,
I know how Libya was b4 the American evasion, it was not all that, 6 of us from work where sent to Libya in 2004.
ALl the ruling houses in teh UAE send their kids to teh west for Education,non of them schooled locally.If the west pull out of the UAE, they will go back to the pre oil state.Ask yourself this, what does teh UAE produce?
The prosperity of the UAE is based in large part on the country's vast oil and gas reserves It is the United States’ single largest export market in the Middle East and North Africa region, and more than 1,000 U.S. firms operate in the country. Many more U.S. companies, drawn by strong logistics and transport industries, use the UAE. as a regional headquarters from which to conduct business throughout the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Asia. Building on the U.S.-UAE Trade and Investment Framework Agreement, the two countries have entered into an Economic Policy Dialogue, establishing a formal mechanism to promote increased trade and investment between the two countries.

freshboi88:



The SW is muslim dominated ......Muslims are more.than christains

Many muslims are converting to Christianity... Jesus is the only way to Heaven... no other way!

obonujoker:


Many muslims are converting to Christianity... Jesus is the only way to Heaven... no other way!

Well I am a Christian so u Need not tell and I live n d sw. I am just stating fact............

BenzEne1:


You people should stop peddling lies. Adil Kalbani was black and was the Imam of the masjid at Makkah. There is no racism in Islam. And you just talked about the sultans. The sultanate in Nigeria is affiliated with the defunct Sokoto caliphate. So naturally there is a selection among the hierarchy in the caliphate to produce a sultan.

So, were Yoruba Muslims subjects of the caliphate? How come the Sultan automatically became the head of all Nigerian Muslims? Did Yoruba Muslims endorse, elect or select him to be their spiritual head?

Demmzy15:
Seriously that riots was very baseless and stupid. Why protest a law which has absolutely nothing to do with you?

Oh yes, it had everything to do with them! This is not just about sharia courts now, but full blown sharia law which brings about segregation of genders in public, against social life e t c.
How and why should such nonsense be declared all over a state like kaduna with half of the state being populated by non Muslims?

Madeu:

Muslim north and Christian south is just a terminologies used to describe the major religion between these regions.

Yes, true, but it's just very misleading. Imagine people saying Nigeria should be divided along religious lines in a Christian south and Muslim north
What do such people want to do with the tens of millions of Yoruba Muslims and middlebelt christians?

Kfed4ril:


Me I think Yoruba Muslims are more than the Christian, if you ask me.

Can you cite any verifiable document(s) to back up your claim?

Nowenuse:


So, were Yoruba Muslims subjects of the caliphate? How come the Sultan automatically became the head of all Nigerian Muslims? Did Yoruba Muslims endorse, elect or select him to be their spiritual head?

The sultanate revolves around Dan Fodio and his offsprings. This is due to the Jihad he embarked on to introduce Islam to Northern Nigeria. His success in Gobir led to similar strives in other parts of the country and west africa. It was his success that led to the creation of the sokoto caliphate. And it has been a norm for the sultans to be choosen from his family in regard for the strive he made for Islam. I haven't heard any public outcry from yoruba muslims saying that the sultanate should be choosen from different ethnic groups.

BenzEne1:


The sultanate revolves around Dan Fodio and his offsprings. This is due to the Jihad he embarked on to introduce Islam to Northern Nigeria. His success in Gobir led to similar strives in other parts of the country and west africa. It was his success that led to the creation of the sokoto caliphate. And it has been a norm for the sultans to be choosen from his family in regard for the strive he made for Islam. I haven't heard any public outcry from yoruba muslims saying that the sultanate should be choosen from different ethnic groups.

Happy slaves!
No wonder Hausa-fulanis see you guys as inferior Muslims and do not hesitate to slaughter your likes during religious crisis in the North.
That was why Buhari sent Sallah message from London with Hausa language, ignoring the existence of millions of Yoruba, Edo and kogi Muslims who do not speak Hausa.
Can you also excuse that?

Nowenuse:


Yes, true, but it's just very misleading. Imagine people saying Nigeria should be divided along religious lines in a Christian south and Muslim north
What do such people want to do with the tens of millions of Yoruba Muslims and middlebelt christians?

You are not seeing the failure of Nigeria as a result of having two dominant religion and among other things. Religion is also cultural practices.
Don't use America as an example. 77% of Americans are of white and European descent. While 23% are different minorities group.
No nation with two dominant culture and religion progresses. Cultural clashes will always occur.
Great Empires in history scrumbled because of different cultures and religions.

Nowenuse:
Anything like this will lead to problems too. What about northern states like kaduna, Adamawa, Gombe and almost all middlebelt states that 50-50 religiously divided? Remember the over 5000 lives that were lost in kaduna crisis when the Christians protested against imposing sharia law in 2001 in the state?

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Keep Kwayet!! Theres Nothing Like 50/50 Divide in kaduna And gombe. Out Of The 3 Senatorial Districts In Kaduna, Indeginous Muslims Own 2. And adamawa is part of middle belt but vastly populated with muslims.

Plus The Christian Dominated Parts Of Middlebelt Are Kogi, Benue, Plateau . Kwara, Nasarawa, Niger, Adamawa, FCT And Perhaps Taraba States Are Muslim Dominated.

How Am I Sure You've Ever Been To Any Of These States??

Madeu:

You are not seeing the failure of Nigeria as a result of having two dominant religion and among other things. Religion is also cultural practices.
Don't use America as an example. 77% of Americans are of white and European descent. While 23% are different minorities group.
No nation with two dominant culture and religion progresses. Cultural clashes will always occur.
Great Empires in history scrumbled because of different cultures and religions.

pls don't blame diversity, blame your character
ok
why Yoruba homes is mixed and people live in peace and harmony for centuries with out violent?

Nowenuse:


Happy slaves!
No wonder Hausa-fulanis see you guys as inferior Muslims and do not hesitate to slaughter your likes during religious crisis in the North.
That was why Buhari sent Sallah message from London with Hausa language, ignoring the existence of millions of Yoruba, Edo and kogi Muslims who do not speak Hausa.
Can you also excuse that?

we accept our inferiority! ok
enjoy your chest beating that lead you into slave!

moninuola65:

pls don't blame diversity, blame your character
ok
why Yoruba homes is mixed and people live in peace and harmony for centuries with out violent?

Harmony in Yoruba home is just based on individual. In fact the problem is masked just to make peace reign.