THT80:
Yesterday, I created a thread on the dilemma that atheists have to shoulder in answering questions pertaining to morality, and as a consequence of the likely outcomes of this dilemma, the potentially harmful effects it could have on the moral framework of society which is strongly tethered to religious values. As was expected, the thread was invaded by a slew of atheists whose sensitivities were hurt by the truth which I did my best to present in an articulate fashion, and they tried all they could to refute my arguments, but failed woefully.

As I tried my best to muster enough interest to continue engaging in what I felt was a diasapointing showcase, given that I was responding repeatedly to weak arguments and subsequent weaker arguments from over five different people, most of which were clutching at straws and conveniently dancing around every question I threw at them, I had the misfortune of reading the argument of a fellow who went by the username hopefulandlord; a username that I felt embodied and reflected his deepest wish.
As I read his argument in response to mine, it struck me as a bit off. Not only was the phraseology and sentence structure different and more sophisticated than the one in his previous comments, the post was strewn with more logic and rationality than in all of the posts I had been laboriously trying to refute. I immediately realised that this wall of text couldn't have been written by hopefulLandlord. This was proven to be true after I accused him of plagiarising online posts only for him to implicitly deny, and moments later, be proven to be culpable of the act which he was denying.

Below is a link to the post he plagiarized and the comments that followed that led to his being caught.

https://www.nairaland.com/4113374/moral-dilemma-makes-atheism-unwise

After realizing how much of a waste of time it was for me to take the pain of replying to comments that were borrowed from smarter people, I abandoned the debate and channeled my time into something more productive.

Fast forward to this morning, I was exploring the threads on Islamic section and I came across a video by a supposed atheist who was trying to use the video as a point of emphasis to demonstrate the reason people leave Islam. After watching the video, I was genuinely interested in reading the opinions of people on the subject. I hadn't read more that five comments when I came across a comment from an atheist that went by the username donnffd. His comment bore a lot of resemblance to the one plagiarised by hopefulandlord as it bespoke of the intelligence and rationality of the writer, a quality that I have come to notice is nonexistent in most of the atheists that I encountered since joining this forum. So guided by curiousity, I copied a sentence from his post and uploaded it on the search box on google and clicked on the search icon. The search results were astonishing. Right on the top of the search results was a link to a website that had among it's posts, the exact replica of donnffd's comment. I mean verbatim. I was shocked. How could I have witnessed plagiarism of this sort twice in the space of 24 hours?

Below is the link to donnffd's post.

https://www.nairaland.com/3249077/why-people-leave-islam-spoken

Below is a link to the post he plagiarized.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

My experience left me with certain opinions which I believe will be reinforced if I take the time to examine the posts of other atheists. It's quite appalling that people who pride themselves as the gate keepers of reason and rationality, display, demonstrably, the opposite. How unintelligent and shameless can you be to use the exact comments of foreigners to reply to a thread created in a forum designed by a citizen of your country and populated by denizens of your country? I mean these dudes weren't even smart enough to at least paraphrase the posts they plagiarized.

With a heavy heart I have to say that my beliefs and opinions are starting to gravitate towards stereotypical notions surrounding of the inferiority of black Africans relative to intelligence and creativity. If we borrowed the religion and cultures of other races and geographical groups, at the detriment of ours, must we also borrow their arguments verbatim?
It's quite a shame that with all the access to knowledge and tools for self development that technology has provided us, presumably educated men can't formulate their ideas with their own words.

And what's more annoying is the arrogance and extremely outsized degree of self conceit these atheists exhibit. How can people who allude to being more intelligent and more rational than theists by reason of their unique critical thinking skills, not be able to express themselves with their own words and their own independent ideas? I can't overemphasize how much of a disappointment this is. I don't think people like this should be taken seriously by anyone.

THT80:
Yesterday, I created a thread on the dilemma that atheists have to shoulder in answering questions pertaining to morality, and as a consequence of the likely outcomes of this dilemma, the potentially harmful effects it could have on the moral framework of society which is strongly tethered to religious values. As was expected, the thread was invaded by a slew of atheists whose sensitivities were hurt by the truth which I did my best to present in an articulate fashion, and they tried all they could to refute my arguments, but failed woefully.

As I tried my best to muster enough interest to continue engaging in what I felt was a diasapointing showcase, given that I was responding repeatedly to weak arguments and subsequent weaker arguments from over five different people, most of which were clutching at straws and conveniently dancing around every question I threw at them, I had the misfortune of reading the argument of a fellow who went by the username hopefulandlord; a username that I felt embodied and reflected his deepest wish.
As I read his argument in response to mine, it struck me as a bit off. Not only was the phraseology and sentence structure different and more sophisticated than the one in his previous comments, the post was strewn with more logic and rationality than in all of the posts I had been laboriously trying to refute. I immediately realised that this wall of text couldn't have been written by hopefulLandlord. This was proven to be true after I accused him of plagiarising online posts only for him to implicitly deny, and moments later, be proven to be culpable of the act which he was denying.

Below is a link to the post he plagiarized and the comments that followed that led to his being caught.

https://www.nairaland.com/4113374/moral-dilemma-makes-atheism-unwise

After realizing how much of a waste of time it was for me to take the pain of replying to comments that were borrowed from smarter people, I abandoned the debate and channeled my time into something more productive.

Fast forward to this morning, I was exploring the threads on Islamic section and I came across a video by a supposed atheist who was trying to use the video as a point of emphasis to demonstrate the reason people leave Islam. After watching the video, I was genuinely interested in reading the opinions of people on the subject. I hadn't read more that five comments when I came across a comment from an atheist that went by the username donnffd. His comment bore a lot of resemblance to the one plagiarised by hopefulandlord as it bespoke of the intelligence and rationality of the writer, a quality that I have come to notice is nonexistent in most of the atheists that I encountered since joining this forum. So guided by curiousity, I copied a sentence from his post and uploaded it on the search box on google and clicked on the search icon. The search results were astonishing. Right on the top of the search results was a link to a website that had among it's posts, the exact replica of donnffd's comment. I mean verbatim. I was shocked. How could I have witnessed plagiarism of this sort twice in the space of 24 hours?

Below is the link to donnffd's post.

https://www.nairaland.com/3249077/why-people-leave-islam-spoken

Below is a link to the post he plagiarized.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

My experience left me with certain opinions which I believe will be reinforced if I take the time to examine the posts of other atheists. It's quite appalling that people who pride themselves as the gate keepers of reason and rationality, display, demonstrably, the opposite. How unintelligent and shameless can you be to use the exact comments of foreigners to reply to a thread created in a forum designed by a citizen of your country and populated by denizens of your country? I mean these dudes weren't even smart enough to at least paraphrase the posts they plagiarized.

With a heavy heart I have to say that my beliefs and opinions are starting to gravitate towards stereotypical notions surrounding of the inferiority of black Africans relative to intelligence and creativity. If we borrowed the religion and cultures of other races and geographical groups, at the detriment of ours, must we also borrow their arguments verbatim?
It's quite a shame that with all the access to knowledge and tools for self development that technology has provided us, presumably educated men can't formulate their ideas with their own words.

And what's more annoying is the arrogance and extremely outsized degree of self conceit these atheists exhibit. How can people who allude to being more intelligent and more rational than theists by reason of their unique critical thinking skills, not be able to express themselves with their own words and their own independent ideas? I can't overemphasize how much of a disappointment this is. I don't think people like this should be taken seriously by anyone.

Setaje:


God bless you.

superhumanist:
Truth be told, these foreigners or westerners have documented a lot of arguments. Also, many religious arguments here are recycled and so, a copy and paste of a suitable argument could be appropriate.

For instance, we have some christian apologists here who have used the kalam-cosmological argument. There are so many atheist.deist.humanist sites that deal with rebuttals to such an argument.


This does not mean that Nigerian atheists and deists should not make their own arguments.

superhumanist:
Truth be told, these foreigners or westerners have documented a lot of arguments. Also, many religious arguments here are recycled and so, a copy and paste of a suitable argument could be appropriate.

For instance, we have some christian apologists here who have used the kalam-cosmological argument. There are so many atheist.deist.humanist sites that deal with rebuttals to such an argument.


This does not mean that Nigerian atheists and deists should not make their own arguments.

THT80:


There is a difference between borrowing the logic of an argument and plagiarising a post verbertim without even bothering to paraphrase it, and then presenting that post as if it was originally written by you. These atheists copy comments from online forums like reddit and then upload it word for word on Nairaland as responses to arguments.

butterflyl1on:


Cc kingebukasblog and Felixomor I think you need to see this

felixomor:

Hehehehe
Its like THT80 just got to know these pple.
Many of them till today think atheism means science.
The typical Nairaland atheist has no arguments.

dalaman:
What is this inane OP about. Hope you know that the biggest plagiarist are christians? Ola adegbu, Doctor Alien, butterfly lion, winner 01 etc are the greatest plagiarist we have here on nairaland. They lift materials from creationist websites and post them here as their own.

It's actually shameful that you are opening a thread on plagiarism when christians here are the biggest culprits.

dalaman:


How can it pain me that you are a shameless plagiarist? Shebi you know that plagiarism is stealing?

dalaman:

[s]
So says the mor0n that allow ancient Jews to think and reason for him. The personal arguments that you have formulated to support any God can be found where? Did you bring up the Jesus idea on your own ot are you just regurgitating the ideas of the ancients and the ideas they created? Akuya[/s].

Deicide:

You day mind those Hypocrites see that Edio*t Butterflyl1on calling his fellow mum*s as if he is not known to do copy and paste This thing weak me i swear

DoctorAlien:
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dalaman:


What is this inane OP about. Hope you know that the biggest plagiarist are christians? Olaadegbu, Doctoralien, butterflylion, winner01 etc are the greatest plagiarist we have here on nairaland. They lift materials from creationist websites and post them here as their own.

It's actually shameful that you are opening a thread on plagiarism when christians here are the biggest culprits.

felixomor:

Dullardeen
You just confirmed the op.
Moreso, you are the dullest of all....

johnydon22:
Hasty generalization and false conclusions: One atheist posted a copied post on your thread, the next day you open a thread that opines every atheist does same here with a whole lot unnecessary epistle to go with such iirelavant argument.

This is rather a silly conclusion.

THT80:


There is a difference between borrowing the logic of an argument and plagiarising a post verbertim without even bothering to paraphrase it, and then presenting that post as if it was originally written by you. These atheists copy comments from online forums like reddit and then upload it word for word on Nairaland as responses to arguments.

SmartyPants:


Not one...two

johnydon22:


Still two is enough to genaralize what up to a 100 does and requires an epistle?

Just 2?

Christ!!!

Jesuschrist419:
(1) Hallucinations - the person has invisible friends who (s)he insists are real, and to whom (s)he speaks daily, even though nobody can actually see or hear these friends

(2) Delusions - the patient believes that the invisible person has magical powers to make them rich, cure cancer, bring about world peace, and will do so eventually if asked.

(3) Denial/Inability to learn - though the requests for world peace remain unanswered, even after hundreds of years, the patients persist with the praying behavior, each time expecting different results

(4) Inability to distinguish fantasy from reality - the beliefs are contingent upon ancient mythology being accepted as historical fact.

(5) Paranoia - the belief that anyone who does not share their supernatural concept of reality is "evil," "the devil," "an agent of Satan"

(6) Emotional abuse - ­ religious concepts such as sin, hell, cause feelings of guilt, shame, fear, and other types of emotional "baggage" which can scar the psyche for life

(7) Violence - many patients insist that others should share in their delusions, even to the extent of using harassment and violence.

Jesuschrist419:
Nietzsche's father died at age 36 of an unknown brain disease in which he lapsed into a coma.
- Nietzsche suffered from frequent migraines his whole adult life, beginning when he was an adolescent and getting progressively more vicious as he got older.
- later on in his adult life he had other health problems like very bad digestive upset and periods where he was effectively blind from eye strain.
- in the months after his collapse in 1889 (at age 45), he alternated between periods of extremely erratic behavior and periods where he seemed totally lucid, except that he had no memory of anything from the periods of insanity or the previous periods of lucidity. His condition gradually worsened as time went on: less and less lucidity / ability to interact and more time unconscious. He spent the last year or two of his life in an unbroken coma before he died in 1900. So far as I know, two medical explanations of his collapse have been proposed: