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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by khalhokage(m): 7:09am On Nov 22, 2017

Feminism has nothing to do with this.

Innocent until proven guilty really only applies to the court of law, in the court of public opinion anybody can take any stance they want, this doesn't only apply to accusations of sexual harassment, we Nigerians, the masters of jungle justice should know all about it.

It is wrong for the innocent to suffer for crimes they didn't commit, but if we can excuse it in other cases, then let's not make a big deal about it happening here. This isn't a perfect world.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:11am On Nov 22, 2017

A lot of guys were raped by older aunties and women. But no fuss dey der.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by tosyne2much(m): 7:11am On Nov 22, 2017

khalhokage:
Feminism has nothing to do with this.

Innocent until proven guilty really only applies to the court of law, in the court of public opinion anybody can take any stance they want, this doesn't only apply to accusations of sexual harassment, we Nigerians, the masters of jungle justice should know all about it.

It is wrong for the innocent to suffer for crimes they didn't commit, but if we can excuse it in other cases, then let's not make a big deal about it happening here. This isn't a perfect world.

Your head dey dia baba

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Mynd44: 7:12am On Nov 22, 2017

khalhokage:
Feminism has nothing to do with this.

Innocent until proven guilty really only applies to the court of law, in the court of public opinion anybody can take any stance they want, this doesn't only apply to accusations of sexual harassment, we Nigerians, the masters of jungle justice should know all about it.

It is wrong for the innocent to suffer for crimes they didn't commit, but if we can excuse it in other cases, then let's not make a big deal about it happening here. This isn't a perfect world.

Feminism has nothing to do with this except that this topic is being discussed and those who bullied Nnedi are actually feminists who believed that her tweets are against the "cause"

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by lordraiden(m): 7:13am On Nov 22, 2017

he raped me, the next you hear na better blow to your left ear and prison follow up, they don't to know if it's true or not

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by bigboss80s(m): 7:14am On Nov 22, 2017

I'm impressed. This is a little talked about but very important topic. The issue of assumption of guilt without proof in cases of sexual assault AGAINST WOMEN. Remember that sexual assault against men is routinely joked about and swept under the carpet.

Like Mynd said, feminists and women right advocates, in a rabid bid to avenge, if you will, the atrocities of sexual offenders also destroy the lives of innocent people who are accused of sexual assault and they do not care.

Now rather than strengthen their cause, it creates the danger of collapsing the whole movement. All it takes if for one high profile case to turn out as a false accusation and governments will begin to put laws in lace that will subsequently make it harder to indict and convict sexual offenders.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:20am On Nov 22, 2017

Nobodys:
op. nice article ... buh wrong topic.... like I don't understand what feminism has got to do with this.
yes soooo many people get accused wrongly and it's always bad ...
In d case of rape. what a guy should do is be smart..... be vigilant and try to create proof of your innocence.... that way no one can accuse you.....

Unfortunately it is not always easy to create proof on innocence. I was at a party with a friend, everyone was drunk. He and a lady at the party go all mushy and ended up in a bush nearby. They had sex. Next day she is telling everyone that he raped her, and stole her virginity. I know as well as everyone that they were both drunk. Where ll he get proof of innocence? We spent money on police case eventually. There are rape cases i take serious, but other times i sit back and analyze the situation cautiously.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by kowalsky: 7:22am On Nov 22, 2017

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by TheManofTomorrow(m): 7:25am On Nov 22, 2017

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by scribble: 7:26am On Nov 22, 2017

Sexual harassment naming and shaming is the new Salem witch trials

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Phi001(m): 7:28am On Nov 22, 2017

Honestly Mynd44 you're very correct.

It's quite annoying. Once a guy is accused, you hear them females calling him pig, making statements like 'men are scum' and all without even bothering to find out whether the accusation is true.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:30am On Nov 22, 2017

At first I was trying to find the connection between feminism and rape,i couldn't find any undecided

,and then a question came to my head, isn't it much more easier for a man to rape a lady than for a lady to rape a man?,so you can't blame Society, blame the male folks who have made the statistics high over time

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by LordHiffy(m): 7:31am On Nov 22, 2017

Nobodys:
op. nice article ... buh wrong topic.... like I don't understand what feminism has got to do with this.
yes soooo many people get accused wrongly and it's always bad ...
In d case of rape. what a guy should do is be smart..... be vigilant and try to create proof of your innocence.... that way no one can accuse you.....

easier said than done

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by WrathOfHadez(m): 7:31am On Nov 22, 2017

Misleading topic, cut and join thesis ; subtle plagiarism. A loud conflict of ideas and absence of a uniform line of thought.

In the end, OP’s head is like a band of disorganized choir playing out of sync.

We appreciate the efforts though.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by tosyne2much(m): 7:33am On Nov 22, 2017

lordraiden:
he raped me, the next you hear na better blow to your left ear and prison follow up, they don't to know if it's true or not

Hahaha very funny cheesy

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobodys(f): 7:33am On Nov 22, 2017

dicefrost:

Unfortunately it is not always easy to create proof on innocence. I was at a party with a friend, everyone was drunk. He and a lady at the party go all mushy and ended up in a bush nearby. They had sex. Next day she is telling everyone that he raped her, and stole her virginity. I know as well as everyone that they were both drunk. Where ll he get proof of innocence? We spent money on police case eventually. There are rape cases i take serious, but other times i sit back and analyze the situation cautiously.

yeah u are right... buh he wasn't smart though... smart guys don't get drunk. lolz. anyways it's a sad situation I also remember when a little boy accused me of touching his pee pee. . like I was sooooooooooo embarrassed.....I was just greeting him and admiring his cuteness and the next thing he started saying my pee pee leave my pee pee.....

everyone laughed about it. buh God I felt like disappearing....
all of these happens alot.... so if there isn't proof . please stand and defend urself with anything you can use.... ur words and statements also matters....
.......

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by ubunja(m): 7:33am On Nov 22, 2017

NOW SOMEONE FINALLY HAS GUTS TO SAY IT
this is the very thing that put me off women for life.
fake rape accusations make it harder for real victims to get justice.coz everyone starts rolling their eyes with every accusation made.this Harvey Wenstein fracass will ultimately lead to women being viewed suspiciously by men.as more and more men start getting accused of sexual harrasment women celebrate and guys shout "yeah jail those pervs". then 2 things will happen:
1.cases will escalate till every man is viewed as a rapist-in-waiting or someone with a pending rape case;waiting for a woman to come forward. then men will start getting afraid as more and more men they know get accused. until atlast they see that the only way to stay safe is to stop this rape accusation hysteria. and women will be back to square zero. no more male sympathy.
2.celebs will keep getting accused until someone or a powerful elite thats untouchable gets accused. there are people in this world so powerful they can even get the annihilation of an entire country as a birthday present.one day women will accuse on of these,and the train of rape accusations will come to a screeching halt.
feminists say the few men falsely accused of rape are a necessary cost of stomping out rape. angry

but even one innocent life destroyed is too much. we are humans not animals.
in europe a law is being debated that will allow a woman to accuse u of rape even WITHOUT PROOF,and the court then will EXAMINE YOUR PAST RELATIONSHIPS FOR SIGNS OF ABUSE and these be submitted as evidence against u in that proofless rape case

modern men dont even know the mortal danger they live in.all it takes is a woman to lie about rape and your life is ruined. even if proved innocent your reputation is down the drain.a few days ago a politician committed suicide in Europe after 2 anonymous women accused him of sexual harrasment. coz he knew either way he was fvcked.
in the UK they are already working in making street whistling to a woman a punishable offense.
the only man who has defeated a false rape accusation is Bill Cosby and he offered to run a course for young men on how to avoid False Rape accusations but was demonized by the media.
in other countries laws are being formulated that will make it rape IF THE CONDOM BREAKS

men dont know that a storm is coming on thier heads straight from hell.they busy defending women of questionable morals and dissing fellow men being abused by the system. they will only wake up when a close friend or blood brother gets chewed up by the rape accusation hysteria.
men wake up. deal carefully with women.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by DaddyKross: 7:35am On Nov 22, 2017

dicefrost:

Unfortunately it is not always easy to create proof on innocence. I was at a party with a friend, everyone was drunk. He and a lady at the party go all mushy and ended up in a bush nearby. They had sex. Next day she is telling everyone that he raped her, and stole her virginity. I know as well as everyone that they were both drunk. Where ll he get proof of innocence? We spent money on police case eventually. There are rape cases i take serious, but other times i sit back and analyze the situation cautiously.

Ofcourse that's the right thing to do but no, that's not what they want. They want the whole world to stand still anytime they shout "He raped me". Knowing fully well that most of these rape accusations are baseless and false.

I once heard of a case where a guy was accused of rape, he was sentenced to 14 years. After a whooping 7 years, the supposed victim made an open confession that the poor guy never raped her. How do we go about a case like that with this "If you are accused, you are guilty" mentality ?

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by LordHiffy(m): 7:36am On Nov 22, 2017

we are being taken back to the stone ages when all that was needed for a woman to be burnt was just to accuse her of being a witch

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by LordHiffy(m): 7:40am On Nov 22, 2017

[quote author=ubunja post=62601558]NOW SOMEONE FINALLY HAS GUTS TO SAY IT there is no better way to put it

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by tosyne2much(m): 7:40am On Nov 22, 2017

Nobodys:
yeah u are right... buh he wasn't smart though... smart guys don't get drunk. lolz. anyways it's a sad situation I also remember when a little boy accused me of touching his pee pee. . like I was sooooooooooo embarrassed.....I was just greeting him and admiring his cuteness and the next thing he started saying my pee pee leave my pee pee.....

everyone laughed about it. buh God I felt like disappearing....
all of these happens alot.... so if there isn't proof . please stand and defend urself with anything you can use.... ur words and statements also matters....
.......

This is very funny cheesy

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by VanBommel(m): 7:41am On Nov 22, 2017

dingbang:
The society has become so bad to the extent that these vices are now seen to be like a norm. The attitude of the society to victims of sexual harassment ain't what I expect it to be as in the days of old. Even to the extent you begin to hear comments like.. 'So is she the first person to be raped on earth"?

where have you heard such before abi you just want to talk?

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by GraGra247(m): 7:41am On Nov 22, 2017

.

So true. I've read so many heartbreaking news stories of convicted men accused of rape who spent almost their entire lives in jail only for a breakthrough investigation or technology to find them innocent. They got released, accuser lady confesses but too late, their lives already lost.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:42am On Nov 22, 2017

frenzyduchess:
At first I was trying to find the connection between feminism and rape,i couldn't find any ,and then a question came to my head, isn't it much more easier for a man to rape a lady than for a lady to rape a man?,so you can't blame Society, blame the male folks who have made the statistics high over time

but when the accused is a man people tend to come hard on him than when it's a lady.

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Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by pocohantas(f): 7:48am On Nov 22, 2017

khalhokage:
Feminism has nothing to do with this.

Innocent until proven guilty really only applies to the court of law, in the court of public opinion anybody can take any stance they want, this doesn't only apply to accusations of sexual harassment, we Nigerians, the masters of jungle justice should know all about it.

It is wrong for the innocent to suffer for crimes they didn't commit, but if we can excuse it in other cases, then let's not make a big deal about it happening here. This isn't a perfect world.

Well said. But we will make it a big deal. I think people are taking advantage of the poor investigative system in the country. From what I see in the media, accused rapists even have it easier, unlike petty thieves that are stripped on the spot and burnt.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:50am On Nov 22, 2017

superNOVA1995:
but when the accused is a man people tend to come hard on him than when it's a lady.

we are saying the same thing because logically it's almost impossible for a lady to rape a man, if we are to go by the definition of rape, and let's not forget that statistically, in ten rape cases we will find men raping women in nine of them, and eight will be guilty as charged, so don't blame Society but blame men folk who have over time taken advantage to their strength to force themselves on women without their consent ,I have been a victim of sexual harassment from my former boss, so I know what I am talking about

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Niftyrules(m): 7:50am On Nov 22, 2017

Mynd44:

So you were at Ake Art and Book Festival ?

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Nobody: 7:57am On Nov 22, 2017

frenzyduchess:
we are saying the same thing because logically it's almost impossible for a lady to rape a man, if we are to go by the definition of rape, and let's not forget that statistically, in ten rape cases we will find men raping women in nine of them, and eight will be guilty as charged, so don't blame Society but blame men folk who have over time taken advantage to their strength to force themselves on women without their consent ,I have been a victim of sexual harassment from my former boss, so I know what I am talking about

you said so.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by handsomebanana(m): 8:11am On Nov 22, 2017

Mynd44:

But we need to reduce victims to the smallest minimum. When people make statements like they are okay with it means they are not prepared to make the struggle better

The woman is an idiot, a very stupid woman at that.

Her response to various replies to her tweet has clearly dissented the earlier tweets. It's obvious she didn't think things through before posting that tweet.

However, it would be naive for me to say that people with such line of thoughts don't exist. I've seen stuff like that on Facebook before, I'm only grateful that they are in the minority. She called it, '... an unpopular opinion... ', and that's how it is going to be.

Re: Sexual Harrassment: Feminism And The Dangers Of "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" by Mynd44: 8:20am On Nov 22, 2017

frenzyduchess:
we are saying the same thing because logically it's almost impossible for a lady to rape a man, if we are to go by the definition of rape, and let's not forget that statistically, in ten rape cases we will find men raping women in nine of them, and eight will be guilty as charged, so don't blame Society but blame men folk who have over time taken advantage to their strength to force themselves on women without their consent ,I have been a victim of sexual harassment from my former boss, so I know what I am talking about

you are right that according to percentages, a larger number of rape victims are women and these hedious crimes are committed by men and eight will be guilty but law rarely do percentages. We have found a strong weapon in social media shaming and it will be unfortunate to lose it right now.

As someone pointed out, all it takes is one high profile case, just one falsely accused person and there will be a gag. You think this is not possible? We are fighting a system which has managed to keep half of it own population down because it feels they are better and taking the voices of this half will ne done because the system feels threatened by the power of social media.

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