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Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 2:42pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

The bolded is a lie. They were never countries but autonomous regions created by the British to administer Nigeria. Southern Cameroon was a British colony administered by the British from Nigeria but not joined to the British territory of Nigeria. They only joined the eastern assembly and later left due them being unhappy with the domineering attitude of Nigerian politicians and lack of unity among the ethnic groups. At a conference in London from 30 July to 22 August 1953, the Southern Cameroons delegation asked for a separate region of its own. The British agreed, and Southern Cameroons became an autonomous region with its capital still at Buea. This means the eastern region never granted them self determination. They were already an autonomous region different from the eastern region. They were granted self determination by the British, not by the eastern region.
they got independence in 1961.... britian left nigeria in 1960
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jan 04, 2018
Sanchez01:

The Aburi Accord failed because the talks favoured one side than the other. 'We people' don't have anything against Ojukwu for fighting for his people (which clearly, he wasn't), rather for leading his people to a slaughter house after claiming he was battle ready with a horrible grin as he stroked his beard. I believe I have uploaded the video to YouTube already.

He could have surrendered the moment supplies where cut off but no, he insisted because he had stashed food away for his immediate family while asking others to fight on empty stomachs.

'We people' have issues with you guys because the man responsible for your deaths fled with his children to a neighbouring country while millions of your people died. In the end, he returned a better Nigerian and proved that the deaths were for nothing.

'We people' believe you guys are stupiid not to see the clearer picture. It is only a matter of time again.
maybe u didnt see wia i wrote dt ojukwu or not hausas and igbos were going to war
d hausas were stopped from leaving nigeria by d brits n murtala never hid his disdain at dat decision
u dont kill ppl and expect em to siddon watch
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 2:44pm On Jan 04, 2018
Sanchez01:

Did you just tell a lie as huge as the emboldened on a public forum shocked grin
If u tell me the lie they i will be glad. The northern region maintain an army till 1967...tell me who maintains an army if not a country. Google it and come back and apologise
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 2:49pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
someone finally gets it. The region however exists in the minds of many people...hence the perenial call for Biafran independent
U can't compare the old Eastern region with Biafra. The old eastern region was ever Biafra. It was part and parcel of Nigeria until Ojukwu illegally called it Biafra. Also The old eastern region does not exists any more, even Biafra does not exist. Biafra only came about only as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. That is why the call for Biafra will never be legitimate, no matter how u try to compare it with other countries
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 2:52pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
If u tell me the lie they i will be glad. The northern region maintain an army till 1967...tell me who maintains an army if not a country. Google it and come back and apologise
Guy u are a liar. There was no northern army. Where is ur evidence?
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 2:56pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
they got independence in 1961.... britian left nigeria in 1960
The British granted them the referendum. That was why it was only the British themselves that gave Cameroon the option of either joining Nigeria or Cameroon. Southern Cameroon complained to the British that they want a third option which is independence for southern Cameroon, but the British refused and told them they can only choose between Cameroon or Nigeria, the referendum was conducted and they chooses Cameroon. It did not matter if the British had left by 1961, the southern Cameroon was still a British colony by then, it was not fully part of independent Nigeria,
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 2:59pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

U can't compare the old Eastern region with Biafra. The old eastern region was ever Biafra. It was part and parcel of Nigeria until Ojukwu illegally called it Biafra. Also The old eastern region does not exists any more, even Biafra does not exist. Biafra only came about only as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. That is why the call for Biafra will never be legitimate, no matter how u try to compare it with other countries
i believe also that this same thing u said now is wat spanish people who dont want an independent catalonia are also saying.

Come on... the cries to end slavery didnt seem legitimate to most whites.

The calls to create a palestinian state doesnt seem legitimate to most jews.

The call to end north korean nuclear program dont seem legitimate to most koreans.

The call to recognise the old eastern region as Biafra and to grant it independence can never seem legitimate to u....fair enough. I wonder why tho...cos legitimate or not, if west or north wants to leave Nigeria most easterners will support it
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 3:04pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
i believe also that this same thing u said now is wat spanish people who dont want an independent catalonia are also saying.

Come on... the cries to end slavery didnt seem legitimate to most whites.

The calls to create a palestinian state doesnt seem legitimate to most jews.

The call to end north korean nuclear program dont seem legitimate to most koreans.

The call to recognise the old eastern region as Biafra and to grant it independence can never seem legitimate to u....fair enough. I wonder why tho...cos legitimate or not, if west or north wants to leave Nigeria most easterners will support it
It is not legitimate because the history u are inventing is a fraud. The real Biafra was the one that existed in 1967, when Ojukwu illegally declared the ol eastern region which was under the control of Nigeria as Biafra. He formed it only in response to the massacred igbos in the north. If there was no igbo massacre, there would have being no Biafra, just eastern region. Biafra has no history except claiming the history and territory of eastern region which was under Nigeria since in the beginning
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by arinze3131(m): 3:05pm On Jan 04, 2018
1tin I have come 2 know Z dat Igbos re tired of been Nigerians and so weather we agree or disagree, 1day they will hv d freedom they hv been fighting for. we will b an independent country 1day.

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Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 3:05pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

Guy u are a liar. There was no northern army. Where is ur evidence?
The government of Northern Nigeria was modelled after the Westminster system. A premier acts as head of government and presides over the day-to-day affairs of government while a Governor acts as Head of state and Commander-in-Chief of the constabulary. The lower house of parliament called the House of Assembly is composed of elected representatives from the various provinces of the country. The Upper House of parliament called the House of Chefs is similar to the British house of Lords. it is composed of unelected Emirs of the various Native Authority Councils of the nation's provinces.


The constabulary was an armed force
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 3:09pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

It is not legitimate because the history u are inventing is a fraud. The real Biafra was the one that existed in 1967, when Ojukwu illegally declared the ol eastern region which was under the control of Nigeria as Biafra. He formed it only in response to the massacred igbos in the north. If there was no igbo massacre, there would have being no Biafra, just eastern region. Biafra has no history except claiming the history and territory of eastern region which was under Nigeria since in the beginning
so biafra existed at all? Good.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by peterphd(m): 3:14pm On Jan 04, 2018
Sanchez01:

The Aburi Accord failed because the talks favoured one side than the other. 'We people' don't have anything against Ojukwu for fighting for his people (which clearly, he wasn't), rather for leading his people to a slaughter house after claiming he was battle ready with a horrible grin as he stroked his beard. I believe I have uploaded the video to YouTube already.

He could have surrendered the moment supplies where cut off but no, he insisted because he had stashed food away for his immediate family while asking others to fight on empty stomachs.

'We people' have issues with you guys because the man responsible for your deaths fled with his children to a neighbouring country while millions of your people died. In the end, he returned a better Nigerian and proved that the deaths were for nothing.

'We people' believe you guys are stupiid not to see the clearer picture. It is only a matter of time again.

Would you have surrendered for gowon to have you shot at the stake?
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 3:16pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
The government of Northern Nigeria was modelled after the Westminster system. A premier acts as head of government and presides over the day-to-day affairs of government while a Governor acts as Head of state and Commander-in-Chief of the constabulary. The lower house of parliament called the House of Assembly is composed of elected representatives from the various provinces of the country. The Upper House of parliament called the House of Chefs is similar to the British house of Lords. it is composed of unelected Emirs of the various Native Authority Councils of the nation's provinces.


The constabulary was an armed force
According to the dictionary, a constabulary is a Police force covering a particular region or city. They were only a police force not an Army. Each region had one because they were autonomous and they will be need of private police
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 3:20pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
so biafra existed at all? Good.
Biafra only existed as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. It would not have existed if Ojukwu was not selfish. It was an illegal forceful creation of Ojukwu. U can never compare its foundation with those of South Sudan, Eritrea, Catalonia, Quebec etc.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 3:45pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

According to the dictionary, a constabulary is a Police force covering a particular region or city. They were only a police force not an Army. Each region had one because they were autonomous and they will be need of private police
selective reading. Constabulary can also mean a paramilitary...like the American national guard which is a constabulary.

No police force in this world needs a 'commander in chief' its a title reserved for the military.

Ps...no other region had a constabulary. The eastern region had a regional police
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 3:47pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

Biafra only existed [s]as Ojukwu answer to massacred igbos in the north. It would not have existed if Ojukwu was not selfish. It was an illegal forceful creation of Ojukwu. U can never compare its foundation with those of South Sudan, Eritrea, Catalonia, Quebec etc.[/s]
ok so it existed. I can also come up with scenerios that can make the places u mentioned to not exist undecided
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 3:54pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
selective reading. Constabulary can also mean a paramilitary...like the American national guard which is a constabulary.

No police force in this world needs a 'commander in chief' its a title reserved for the military.

Ps...no other region had a constabulary. The eastern region had a regional police
Constabulary can also mean police. U also did ur own selective reading too. Every region had a regional police, which is controlled by the military governor. The north had a regional police. If they had an army why did they not challenge the British or the Nigerian government? Also the title "commander in chief" was used because the regions and police is controlled by a military governor, not just ordinary governor. That is why an ordinary governor today has the title of "Chief Security Officer".

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Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
ok so it existed. I can also come up with scenerios that can make the places u mentioned to not exist undecided
Lol, keep trying hard. But no matter what, ur Biafra will never have legitimacy like the rest u mentioned
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Jesusloveyou: 3:57pm On Jan 04, 2018
abdelrahman:
Break this damn country if it doesn't work jare!
is working!
Is only your hatred that is giving you hallucination,
Thinking is not working

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Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 4:01pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

Constabulary can also mean police. U also did ur own selective reading too. Every region had a regional police, which is controlled by the military governor. The north had a regional police. If they had an army why did they not challenge the British or the Nigerian government? Also the title "commander in chief" was used because the regions and police is controlled by a military governor, not just ordinary governor. That is why an ordinary governor today has the title of "Chief Security Officer".
lol....this guy u just keep shooting urself in the foot. Go and list the governors of northern region from formation till 1967 and tell me who are military governors among them.

Lol now that we have an army why dont we challenge the british?
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jan 04, 2018
Jesusloveyou:
is working! Is only your hatred that is giving you hallucination, Thinking is not working
egbon,e fimisile.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 4:13pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
lol....this guy u just keep shooting urself in the foot. Go and list the governors of northern region from formation till 1967 and tell me who are military governors among them.

Lol now that we have an army why dont we challenge the british?
According to Wikipedia, the northern region was an autonomous division within Nigeria. They had greater autonomy but was still under Nigeria. It's functioned more like a confederacy under Nigeria.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 4:21pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

According to Wikipedia, the northern region was an autonomous division within Nigeria. They had greater autonomy but was still under Nigeria. It's functioned more like a confederacy under Nigeria.

Eggzatly. And they had the right of self determination...so did the eastern region. What I can agree is that declaration of independence shouldnt be unilateral.. but follow laid down laws. But in the end it doesnt matter. One of Awolowo and gowon greatest achievement as far as hausa and yoruba are concerned was the abolishing of regions

wish a decent leader can go back to the 1963 constitution tho. Nigeria's only real Constitution.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 4:30pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:


Eggzatly. And they had the right of self determination...so did the eastern region. What I can agree is that declaration of independence shouldnt be unilateral.. but follow laid down laws. But in the end it doesnt matter. One of Awolowo and gowon greatest achievement as far as hausa and yoruba are concerned was the abolishing of regions

wish a decent leader can go back to the 1963 constitution tho. Nigeria's only real Constitution.
The regions have been abolished, it no longer exists, it has being fragmented into states. The old eastern region currently does not exist anymore. U cant use that instance to be clamoring for Biafra. The issue of Biafra is very different.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 4:33pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

The regions have been abolished, it no longer exists, it has being fragmented into states. The old eastern region currently does not exist anymore. U cant use that instance to be clamoring for Biafra. The issue of Biafra is very different.
am sure u are happy the regions dont exist anymore
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 4:35pm On Jan 04, 2018
Jesusloveyou:
is working!
Is only your hatred that is giving you hallucination,
Thinking is not working
since u can see we have hatred for the country, why dont u all let us go undecided
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by nextstep(m): 4:39pm On Jan 04, 2018
You guys should be using your organization to help build schools and fund cottage-scale entrepreneurs in Igboland... instead of all this noisemaking. You should be encouraging young boys and women to go into politics and civil service so they will have your interests in mind when they reach the upper reaches of politics.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 4:43pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
am sure u are happy the regions dont exist anymore
Happy? What I want is total restructuring. Each state should control their resources and develop themselves to their taste. Just the the American Style. That is what I want. A restructured Nigeria is far more realistic than Biafra. If only the south south, south east, south west and middle belt realize the power we have, things would have changed. If we were United, with our large number, we would have challenged the challenger the north and make them see reasons why a restructured Nigeria is better. The keyword is Unity
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Jesusloveyou: 4:44pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
since u can see we have hatred for the country, why dont u all let us go undecided
so because your new supreme leader shecow hate us, we should allow him to carved part of the country.
Nonsense.
We will never allow any part to carve out from Nigeria.
If you don't like Nigeria, leave!
Go to Cameroon or enter lagoon
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by Bede2u(m): 4:47pm On Jan 04, 2018
victorvezx:

Happy? What I want is total restructuring. Each state should control their resources and develop themselves to their taste. Just the the American Style. That is what I want. A restructured Nigeria is far more realistic than Biafra. If only the south south, south east, south west and middle belt realize the power we have, things would have changed. If we were United, with our large number, we would have challenged the challenger the north and make them see reasons why a restructured Nigeria is better. The keyword is Unity
ok that is what u want.... wat about wat we want? considering that the country was once restructured until 1967 that a certain middle beltan decided to create 12 mushroom states
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by victorvezx(m): 4:52pm On Jan 04, 2018
Bede2u:
ok that is what u want.... wat about wat we want?
What u want is not possible. It's not realistic. We went to war for it. Millions died. The truth is no country would like a break up. Even a whole America fought a four year civil war to prevent the confederate state from breaking away. America is still doing all it can to prevent their Spanish speaking territory of Puerto Rico from going, even when Puerto Rico has lots of grievances against America.
Re: Igbo Ekunie Initiative: Another Pro-Biafra Agitation Group Emerges In Nigeria by nairalandic(m): 4:57pm On Jan 04, 2018
this people no they taya abeg...

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