Seun:

I think it was the least they could do to prevent the escalation of violence in the Middle East.


No it’s not. Where does the Bible say that?


Your heart needs to chill out and enjoy real life to the fullest while you still can!

Tell me the enjoyment I'm missing and by the way Mr seun, the real life is in knowing God because Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and that life is the real life that the combination of all atheists wisdoms cannot comprehend. so Mr Seun we are both in this natural realm where we both enjoy the little amenities that are there and if you think you're enjoying a specific enjoyment that I'm not enjoying that shows how myopic your thought can be.

Thanks for the advice though

I don't know it all. We all know in part and may always know in part even at the perfection of all things.

That being said, I believe that the present day Israel -at least in part - is a true offspring of the ancient biblical Jewish nation.

Whilst, they may not be able to restore the old theocratic state religion prior to the second advent of Christ, the covenant which God had with Abraham guarantees that the throne of David will never be permanently desolate. Rather it will eventually be occupied by the Messiah who holds the Key of David - and that is Jesus Christ.

Thing is, Jews rejected Jesus on his first advent so that the Gentiles could have a go at the Gospel and get saved. But once the times of the Gentiles are up, all Jews will be saved.

Reality is that from the olden days, Jews were hoping and expecting the coming of the Kingly, Conquering Messiah (not the Sacrificial Lamb which was preached to the Gentiles). And this is exactly the same figure whom the rest of the saved Gentiles are now expecting to arrive at the second coming. Thus, bothJews and Gentiles will become one in Him and under His reign.

Ferisidowu:


Ok pls let me know your view concerning the topic

KratosCorp:
I don't know it all. We all know in part and may always know in part even at the perfection of all things.

That being said, I believe that the present day Israel -at least in part - is a true offspring of the ancient biblical Jewish nation.

Whilst, they may not be able to restore the old theocratic state religion prior to the second advent of Christ, the covenant which God had with Abraham guarantees that the throne of David will never be permanently desolate. Rather it will eventually be occupied by the Messiah who holds the Key of David - and that is Jesus Christ.

Thing is, Jews rejected Jesus on his first advent so that the Gentiles could have a go at the Gospel and get saved. But once the times of the Gentiles are up, all Jews will be saved.

Reality is that from the olden days, Jews were hoping and expecting the coming of the Kingly, Conquering Messiah (not the Sacrificial Lamb which was preached to the Gentiles). And this is exactly the same figure whom the rest of the saved Gentiles are now expecting to arrive at the second coming. Thus, bothJews and Gentiles will become one in Him and under His reign.

ok thanks dear God bless

Seun:

Your heart needs to chill out and enjoy real life to the fullest while you still can!

The real enjoyment is up there, not down here

Ferisidowu:


Oh really, have you read the Bible, tell where it is that "not all Israel is Israel"...

" Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:"
Romans 9:6

Seun:



Your heart needs to chill out and enjoy real life to the fullest while you still can!

And in what ways exactly does one's expectation of Christ's coming prevent him from fully enjoying real life? Come off your prejudice about the Christian faith bro. I put it to you that you CAN NEVER live fully,meaningfully, or satisfactorily without living by faith. That's why in your world, happiness remains a perpetual pursuit, whereas for us who are wise enough, The Joy of the LORD is our perpetual strength.

The world is now flying blind, the one letting has left.

The work of the Holy Spirit is done.

MrPresident1:
The world is now flying blind

Are you a drone pilot?

the one letting has left.

The work of the Holy Spirit is done.

Rara o. The holyspirit is getting the church to peak of manifestation

petra1:


Are you a drone pilot?

Rara o. The holyspirit is getting the church to peak of manifestation

Lol. The work of the Holy Spirit is done, He has guided us to the end.

MrPresident1:


Lol. The work of the Holy Spirit is done, He has guided us to the end.

this wolf cannot stop lying about God

more lies - false prophecies about God from pres1:

MrPresident1:


The time of Jacob's trouble has ended. It is Esau's turn to taste of the wrath, the clouds are now gathered over the skies of heaven. Christ will come in these clouds, shortly.

MrPresident1:


The Most High and Holy God never does things randomly. It all is a giant puzzle, and as He promised; the secrets of the Lord are with them that fear Him, that hope in His mercy. The time is fixed. Jacob's trouble is ended! The final trump will sound circa September 25, 2014.

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

this murderer will take as many as he can with him, to the lake of fire, it's obvious he is after followers

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Christians seek followers for Christ
pres1 seeks followers for self

olaolutreasure:

The real enjoyment is up there, not down here

How can the enjoyment of a place that none of the people who told you about it had ever actually experienced be described as real?

All the biblical writers believed that heaven was in the sky. That’s why Jesus is said to have ascended into heaven instead of just teleporting. Space exploration has shown that this is wrong. Why should we trust the other things that these people wrote about heaven?

Seun:

How can the enjoyment of a place that none of the people who told you about it had ever actually experienced be described as real?

All the biblical writers believed that heaven was in the sky. That’s why Jesus is said to have ascended into heaven instead of just teleporting. Space exploration has shown that this is wrong. Why should we trust the other things that these people wrote about heaven?

The deceiver has deceived all of us.

Rapture in its etymology means pure joy, pure joy is a state, and it is akin to being in a heavenly state, the heavenly feeling of pure joy and ecstacy in the presence of God, it is both a place and a state of mind.

Jesus, as I have taught on this thread, is the codename for the SUN that shines up there in the heavens. We need to start reasoning, and turn our thoughts from the fables that have hidden God from us. Jesus will come in the clouds, the clouds took Him from sight etc are all allegories, which when properly understood point us to the SUN.

Jesus is the SUN, and all the allegories about Him point to the sun. Jesus is the SUN, men who are endoweed or anointed with the power of the SUN are called Christ. Christ is the SUN of the world, and He will soon appear from heaven, in the clouds.

Our minds must be turned from fables if we genuinely seek to know about God. The converse is ignorance, and blindness. Choice is laid before us.

Seun, do you know a cartoon called 'Birdman'?

Seun:

How can the enjoyment of a place that none of the people who told you about it had ever actually experienced be described as real?

All the biblical writers believed that heaven was in the sky. That’s why Jesus is said to have ascended into heaven instead of just teleporting. Space exploration has shown that this is wrong. Why should we trust the other things that these people wrote about heaven?

Heaven is a spiritual location; inaccessible by space exploration, and the Bible clearly gave us an elucidate structural description of the Kingdom in the book of Revelation

all this is typical of pres1's unbibical rubbish

MrPresident1:


The deceiver has deceived all of us.

Rapture in its etymology means pure joy, pure joy is a state, and it is akin to being in a heavenly state, the heavenly feeling of pure joy and ecstacy in the presence of God,

rapture as written and applied by paul doesn't mean pure joy
rapture is from the latin raptum
the greek word that paul wrote is harpazo
they mean: abduction, taken away by force

MrPresident1:

it is both a place and a state of mind.

rapture is neither a place, or a state of mind
it is an event, to come

MrPresident1:

Jesus, as I have taught on this thread, is the codename for the SUN that shines up there in the heavens. We need to start reasoning, and turn our thoughts from the fables that have hidden God from us. Jesus will come in the clouds, the clouds took Him from sight etc are all allegories, which when properly understood point us to the SUN.

Jesus is the SUN, and all the allegories about Him point to the sun. Jesus is the SUN, men who are endoweed or anointed with the power of the SUN are called Christ. Christ is the SUN of the world, and He will soon appear from heaven, in the clouds.

so Jesus created Himself(the SUN) on the fourth day ha ha

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

(Gen 1:14)  And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

(Gen 1:15)  And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
(Gen 1:16)  And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

(Gen 1:17)  And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

(Gen 1:18)  And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:19)  And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

MrPresident1:

Our minds must be turned from fables if we genuinely seek to know about God.

say's mr.fables

MrPresident1:

The converse is ignorance, and blindness. Choice is laid before us.

Seun, do you know a cartoon called 'Birdman'?

pres, hating the truth has long ago caused your ignorance and blindness

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Johnw74, if you can calm yourself and make the deductions I am trying to make you see below, you would be better for it.
Your entire problem is that you cannot accept that Jesus Christ is black . Read up on the millennial reign of Christ which happened from 500AD to 1500AD, Caucasians were in a worse off situation than the black man finds himself today. You have heard of the dark ages right, when BLACK MEN RULED EUROPE? Then the European renaissance happened. The black rennaisance will happen too, this time it will be forever, and everyone is invited to the table, irrespective of present complexion, just accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

Black people are currently in their own 'white ages' , it is not any stupid genetic superiority, the whiteman is not superior to the blackman in anyway! It is the SUN.

Acts 1:11
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven

Malachi 4:2
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

https://www.nairaland.com/4240831/son-god-sun-righteousness

WHY IS THERE A SOLAR HALO ON THE HEAD OF JESUS CHRIST 100% TIMES HE IS DEPICTED?

Acts 1:11 
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven

Malachi 4:2
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 

The men of Galilee were gazing up to heaven, because Jesus was taken up to heaven and a cloud received him from sight. The same Jesus who is the SUN of Righteousness will arise on the righteous, on the people who fear God.

The Sun of righteousness will arise with healing in HIS wings not in its wings

Acts 1:9
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

So a cloud received Jesus from sight abi?

From what we know of science and space exploration, can any man just levitate into space just like that?

Abeg, let us skip the fables , it was all abot the SUN.

JESUS IS THE SUN OF GOD.

MrPresident1:
Johnw74, if you can calm yourself and make the deductions I am trying to make you see below, you would be better for it.
Your entire problem is that you cannot accept that Jesus Christ is black .

i know what color skin Jesus had
and not being a skin color preducised person as you are
i wouldn't care if it was black
it makes no diffrence to salvation what color skin Jesus had
it only matters, and is bought up again and again by a twisted hateful mind
and you pres taking after your father love to continually lie and falsely accuse:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MrPresident1:

Read up on the millennial reign of Christ which happened from 500AD to 1500AD

duh, the millennial reign of Christ begins after His return:

Rev 20:1  And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 
Rev 20:2  And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 
Rev 20:3  And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 
Rev 20:4  And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

MrPresident1:

, Caucasians were in a worse off situation than the black man finds himself today. You have heard of the dark ages right, when BLACK MEN RULED EUROPE? Then the European renaissance happened. The black rennaisance will happen too, this time it will be forever, and everyone is invited to the table, irrespective of present complexion, just accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.

ha ha, hey false accuser, i would never accept your false jesus as my Lord and Saviour
that's for sure

MrPresident1:

Black people are currently in their own 'white ages' , it is not any stupid genetic superiority, the whiteman is not superior to the blackman in anyway! It is the SUN.

oh very confused one,
no, whiteman is not superior to the black man
you keep saying that, mr. inferiority complex

and Jesus was a Jew
jews two thousand years ago would be much the same as jews today
just as black africans of two thousand years ago would be much the same as black africans today
and chinese two thousand years ago would be much the same as chinese today

Your entire problem pres1 is that you cannot accept that Jesus Christ is white

MrPresident1:

Your entire problem is that you cannot accept that Jesus Christ is black .

your skin color preducised means so much to you, that you accept your false jesus over the true Jesus
your false jesus is the sun, which He created on the fourth day

MrPresident1:

Acts 1:11
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven

Malachi 4:2
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

https://www.nairaland.com/4240831/son-god-sun-righteousness

you pres1 think malachi 4:2 shows that Jesus Christ is the sun,
which Jesus created on the fourth day...amazing

do you also believe that the people God is referring to in that verse
literally grow up as calves .. oh dear

Seun:

How can the enjoyment of a place that none of the people who told you about it had ever actually experienced be described as real?

All the biblical writers believed that heaven was in the sky. That’s why Jesus is said to have ascended into heaven instead of just teleporting. Space exploration has shown that this is wrong. Why should we trust the other things that these people wrote about heaven?

Who says Jesus had to reach space by the same means defined by your so called space explorers? By walking on water, did he not suspend the law of floatation? By the way? if heaven couldn't be up there, why do rockets launch upwards? you should try not forming know it all in matters about which you yet should learn.

MrPresident1:
Acts 1:9
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

So a cloud received Jesus from sight abi?

From what we know of science and space exploration, can any man just levitate into space just like that?

oh disbeliever of God's word

(1Th 4:15)  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

(1Th 4:16)  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(1Th 4:17)  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

MrPresident1:

Abeg, let us skip the fables , it was all abot the SUN.

JESUS IS THE SUN OF GOD.

fables are most of what you post

John, read this thread meditatingly

https://www.nairaland.com/2948312/paul-say-he-here-when

johnw74:



oh disbeliever of God's word

(1Th 4:15)  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

(1Th 4:16)  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(1Th 4:17)  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


fables are most of what you post

MrPresident1:
John, read this thread meditatingly

https://www.nairaland.com/2948312/paul-say-he-here-when

i glimpsed through it and saw your usual rot there

Fadman4real said this much right about it:

Fadman4real:


Your naiviety is three much,

MrPresident1:
Acts 1:11 
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven

Malachi 4:2
2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 

The men of Galilee were gazing up to heaven, because Jesus was taken up to heaven and a cloud received him from sight. The same Jesus who is the SUN of Righteousness will arise on the righteous, on the people who fear God.

The Sun of righteousness will arise with healing in HIS wings not in its wings

Jesus has many names and titles, the Sun of righteousness being just one of them
in malachi 4:2 just as Jesus in not literally the sun, neither are the people God is referring to going to grow up as moo calves

Jesus glory is like the sun:

Rev 21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 


Psalm 84:11
For the LORD God is a sun and shield; The LORD gives grace and glory; No good thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly.

as God is not the literal sun, neither is He a literal shield
He gives light and He protects



viewers might think why am i bothering to explain this

the answer is: i like to expose those who twist God's word
and who add to it and take away from it

in 2015 false prophet MrPresident1 said:

MrPresident1:

In about 15 days time, the marriage supper of the Lamb of God will take place. God, who is eternally invisible but has given all His essence to His son Jesus Christ, so if you see the Son you have seen the Father, will be returning to re-marry His wife Israel. Revelation 19:7-9, Mathew 22:2

MrPresident1:


Peace and safety was proclaimed at sundown at the beginning of the winter solstice on 21st December 2017, and symbolically it was the death of the present sun of this world. For three days the sun dies, then on the third day which begins at sundown on the 24th the vigil for the rising of the sun will begin stretching to sundown on Christmas day.

Any time during this period during the ascension of the sun, suddenly we will see him among us, He who will come in the clouds of heaven.

delusion
copying from other internet crackpots
wanting followers
fake christian



Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

johnw74:



delusion
copying from other internet crackpots
wanting followers
fake christian



Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

John come and be my follower

johnw74:



Jesus has many names and titles, the Sun of righteousness being just one of them
in malachi 4:2 just as Jesus in not literally the sun, neither are the people God is referring to going to grow up as moo calves

Jesus glory is like the sun:

Rev 21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 


Psalm 84:11
For the LORD God is a sun and shield; The LORD gives grace and glory; No good thing does He withhold from those who walk uprightly.

as God is not the literal sun, neither is He a literal shield
He gives light and He protects



viewers might think why am i bothering to explain this

the answer is: i like to expose those who twist God's word
and who add to it and take away from it

Someone liked your comment .

The fact is these truths I am teaching are too strong for you, too too strong.

Yoir spiritman is not strong enough to handle it

MrPresident1:


Someone liked your comment .

The fact is these truths I am teaching are too strong for you, too too strong.

Yoir spiritman is not strong enough to handle it

you are too blinded to see that no one is interisted in your perverted truths
you are a teacher without pupils - a false prophet without followers, and it frustrates you ha ha

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw74:


you are too blinded to see that no one is interisted in your perverted truths
you are a teacher without pupils - a false prophet without followers, and it frustrates you ha ha

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

John, Jesus is black, get over it!

MrPresident1:
WHY IS THERE A SOLAR HALO ON THE HEAD OF JESUS CHRIST 100% TIMES HE IS DEPICTED?

Sir, your theology is beginning to confuse me now. Jesus is not Sun, He's the Son

olaolutreasure:

Sir, your theology is beginning to confuse me now. Jesus is not Sun, He's the Son

You cannot understand me if you do not get a complete picture of what I am saying. The only way to get this picture is to read up from where I started talking about the sun. I have a thread I created to explain this.