Xbee007:

Are you genuinely comparing human speech (a very sophisticated one) with animal's repeating strings of words that they have been taught through "operant conditioning?"

Before words are produced, the brain calculates how wide or how thin the vocal cords need to be and how lightly or firmly the tongue touches the vocal cord.

You said these animals are not smart enough yet they are smart enough to say words you consider sophisticated.

Be they repeating Strings of words, those words are formed into sentences like

I love you

Are you working

You are bothering me

I am well thank you, how about you?

I am hungry

Etc

These are not just words anymore but a speech pattern. Sophisticated you say but they are doing it and you better believe it too.

No animal is supposed to even form a single word of human speech but here we have them excelling in them and even being able to hold Conversations (although taught) after all even humans are taught language and speech and what to say right from childhood. If animals are taught, so were humans.

All these one na long story...

Dear OP, how did you know that God created animals to give birth without pain?

Is there any evidence for us to know whether all animals were giving birth to their offspring in a painless manner before Eve was cursed for eating the fruit?



I hope someone would be mature enough not to reply this post with insults or personal attacks...

Thank you...

Xbee007:

So you are saying God programmed the serpent to say those words to Eve so he could banish them from Garden of Eden. Are you saying the Middle-Eastern sky Daddy is an hypocrite?

Whatever bakes your bread.

Can you show me where I said God programmed any serpent? Was it God who was put in charge of the garden? Was it God who named the animals?

Think before you speak, you are not doing the thinking aspect obviously

This was the same way you ignorantly said the garden of Eden was a microcosm of heaven when it was an earthly dwelling and even said so in the link you posted. You even boasted that because it was referred to as Paradise then it must be heaven when the Paradise mentioned was simply describing the splendour, the harmony and life.

butterflyl1on:


Before words are produced, the brain calculates how wide or how thin the vocal cords need to be and how lightly or firmly the tongue touches the vocal cord.

You said these animals are not smart enough yet they are smart enough to say words you consider sophisticated.

Be they repeating Strings of words, those words are formed into sentences like

I love you

Are you working

You are bothering me

I am well thank you, how about you?

I am hungry

Etc

These are not just words anymore but a speech pattern. Sophisticated you say but they are doing it and you better believe it too.

No animal is supposed to [b]even form a single word of human speech but here we have them excelling in them and even being able to hold Conversations (although taught) [/b]after all even humans are taught language and speech and what to say right from childhood. If animals are taught, so were humans.

Why do you love telling lies always. Non of these animals can hold a real time conversation with anybody. If I go and meet them and start a conversation they will not be able to talk to me. They can only repeat the few words or sentences they have been taught to repeat. You are lying when you say they are able to hold conversation. They can never HOLD real time conversations because they do NOT even understand the sounds they are making. They don't know it's meaning, to them they are just repeating sounds. Animals can NOT hold any real time conversation with humans to the extent that they can even convince them to do what they do not want to do, like the snake and Eve. That only happens in mythology and fiction and NOT in reality.

butterflyl1on:


Was it God who named the animals?

What load of nonsense. What name did Adam give the Girrafe? What name did he give to the Kangaroo? What did he name the Koala and the seal? What about the Walrus what name did Adam give it?

dalaman:


What load of nonsense. What name did Adam give the Girrafe? What name did he give to the Kangaroo? What did he name the Koala and the seal? What about the Walrus what name did Adam give it?

LMAO here he comes again typing without thinking

Smh

Every man born today is an Adam in his own right since we all decended from him. No animal is named except by man. No animal is born with a name tag. Man CHOOSES his name for him.

We are Adam in the flesh and as we discover more animals we name them which by extension is still the fulfilment of the instructions given to Adam by God in the Garden

This is simple enough. I am sure that by deliberately bringing the explanation DOWN to your level it is now better understood.

dalaman:


Why do you love telling lies always. Non of these animals can hold a real time conversation with anybody. If I go and meet them and start a conversation they will not be able to talk to me. They can only repeat the few words or sentences they have been taught to repeat. You are lying we you say they are able to hold conversation. They can never HOL real time conversations because they do NOT even understand what they sounds they are making. They don't know it's meaning to them they are just repeating sounds. Animals can NOT hold any real time conversation with humans to the extent that they can even convince them to do what they do not want to to, like the snake and Eve. That only happens in mythology and fiction and NOT in reality.

Well I say you are ignorant.

So animals lack understanding yet when you tell a dog to sit, he does. A dog can understand as much as 165 words. No dog can understand words except when taught and also by observations.

No human can understand what words mean without also being taught or by observation.

Humans also repeat the words they have also been taught or were you born with the ability to speak and understand words right from the moment you popped out?

What were you first words to the midwife or Doctor Who brought you out of your mother dalaman ? Was it liar liar? Or was it Akuya?

butterflyl1on:


LMAO here he comes again typing without thinking

Smh

Every man born today is an Adam in his own right since we all decended from him. No animal is named except by man. No animal is born with a name tag. Man CHOOSES his name for him.

We are Adam in the flesh and as we discover more animals we name them which by extension is still the fulfilment of the instructions given to Adam by God in the Garden

This is simple enough. I am sure that by deliberately bringing the explanation DOWN to your level it is now better understood.

The way you are trying so hard to explain away ancient Jewish mythology is really mind boggling.

How can you explain anything to me when you do NOT know anything about it?

What race was Adam? What language did he speak and where was the garden of Eden located?

Adam did NOT name any animal. Adam in fact remains a mythical construct as such you can NOT tell me anything about him. You can not tell me his race/ color of his skin, the language he spoke and the location of the Garden which he lived. In which continent was the garden located?

This mythical Adam was said to have lived about 6000 years ago.

If Adam named any animal that what are the names he gave them? What name did he give the lion? What name did he give the dog and cat and in what language? You can't tell me because when it comes to mythical construct details are NEVER given.

butterflyl1on:


Well I say you are ignorant.

So animals lack understanding yet when you tell a dog to sit, he does. A dog can understand as much as 165 words. No dog can understand words except when taught and also by observations.

No human can understand what words mean without also being taught or by observation.

Humans also repeat the words they have also been taught or were you born with the ability to speak and understand words right from the moment you popped out?

What were you first words to the midwife or Doctor Who brought you out of your mother dalaman ? Was it liar liar? Or was it Akuya?

What are you arguing about? That a dog or any animal can hold a real time conversation with humans? Is that what you are really trying to say? It is impossible no animal cam hold a real time conversation with any human being.

Animals can NEVER hold real time conversations with humans. They can not, ever. A dog can understand things but he can not talk outside a few words that he has been made to repeat. Even when they speak the words they are not very clear. Dogs and animals on general are limited in their ability to even speak human wordsor the few sentences they have been taught.

If I tell a dog or any to give me it's opinion about the Fulani Herdsmen and farmers clash and profer what he feels will be the best solution, no animal will be able to do that EVER. It is impossible for animals to hold real time conversations with humans talk more of convincing a woman to go against her wish and do what the animal wants through conversation. That can only happen in fictitious and mythical folklore.

dalaman:


The way you are trying so hard to explain away ancient Jewish mythology is really mind boggling.

How can you explain anything to me when you do NOT know anything about it?

What race was Adam? What language did he speak and where was the garden of Eden located?

Adam did NOT name any animal. Adam in fact remains a mythical construct as such you can NOT tell me anything about him. You can not tell me his race/ color of his skin, the language he spoke and the location of the Garden which he lived. In which continent was the garden located?

This mythical Adam was said to have lived about 6000 years ago.

If Adam named any animal that what are the names he gave them? What name did he give the lion? What name did he give the dog and cat and in what language? You can't tell me because when it comes to mythical construct details are NEVER given.

SMH how does one deal with this level of ignorance daily?

You are mentioning their names and still asking me what names did Adam give them?

LMAO

I guess DOG is not name. Let me use dog as an example. Dogs at some point were said to have come from wolves (so says science) so this means that the first "dog " was named dog by man so as to differentiate it from wolves.

Or were you thinking a name is something like Charles, akin, Gilbert and so on?

No wonder you argue with so much ignorance.

Another example. When man makes a discovery of a new life form or insect or virus or bacteria strain THEY NAME IT!

E. G Salmonella enterica serotype Typhi IS A NAME FOR TYPHOID IN THE STOMACH. Man named it so. Ordinarily it was just something very tiny swimming around in the intestinal walls but naming it gave it a class disctinction which is what names do. So stop thinking names like Charles or uche or dalaman were given.

Chai I Don die over this level of ignorance.

Genesis 2: 19 - 20

19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.

That scripture says he gave names to the ANIMALS, BIRDS AND LIVESTOCK. it did not say he gave names to the elephant, the lion the eagle the goat.

They had NO IDENTITY before. He gave them identity by such names as elephant, goat, eagle, etc.

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What are you arguing about? That a dog or any animal can hold a real time conversation with humans? Is that what you are really trying to say? It is impossible no animal cam hold a real time conversation with any human being.

Animals can NEVER hold real time conversations with humans. They can not, ever. A dog can understand things but he can not talk outside a few words that he has been made to repeat

Is that not conversation?

When you began school as a child dalaman your teacher would say things like A + M is AM, B +A + G is BAG and would ask you to repeat it and you would do so repeatedly. Over time they increased the words and you began making sentences with them. Were you not also taught speech and sentences for sake of conversation as a child? Are you not today REPEATING what you learnt or were taught?

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Even when they speak the words they are not very clear. Dogs and animals on general are limited in their ability to even speak human wordsor the few sentences they have been taught

Humans too have limitations in speech. We also cannot speak the language of animals well enough no matter how hard we try. In the human speech angle we also have humans with human speech defects so just like animals they struggle to make words or be coherent.

If I tell a dog or any to give me it's opinion about the Fulani Herdsmen and farmers clash and profer what he feels will be the best solution, no animal will be able to do that EVER. It is impossible for animals to hold real time conversations with humans talk more of convincing a woman to go against her wish and do what the animal wants through conversation. That can only happen in fictitious and mythical folklore

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If you tell a baby born today to give you advice on the Fulani herdsmen problem what do you think the baby would tell you?

But ask this baby again 10 years later AFTER HE MUST HAVE BEEN TAUGHT AND OBSERVED.

same thing with animals. No animal knows what you are saying until you teach and they observe then to their ability they would respond INTELLIGENTLY to what you say which you have already taught them.

butterflyl1on:


Is that not conversation?

When you began school as a child dalaman your teacher would say things like A + M is AM, B +A + G is BAG and would ask you to repeat it and you would do so repeatedly. Over time they increased the words and you began making sentences with them. Were you not also taught speech and sentences for sake of conversation as a child? Are you not today REPEATING what you learnt or were taught?

It is NOT a conversation. NO animal in the world can hold real time conversation with a human being. Are you denying that fact? Conversation is not just about repeating words but expression. You express your thoughts, ideas and feelings when conversing with a person. No animal can be thought to do that in real time. It is impossible.

Humans too have limitations in speech. We also cannot speak the language of animals well enough no matter how hard we try. In the human speech angle we also have humans with human speech defects so just like animals they struggle to make words or be coherent.

Stop making things up. No body is talking about humans speaking animals language. Animals are very very limited when it comes to speaking the human language. No animal can be taught to express it own feelings and ideas using the human language. It is impossible. Only he human can be taught to do that and NOT an Animal.

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If you tell a baby born today to give you advice on the Fulani herdsmen problem what do you think the baby would tell you?

But ask this baby again 10 years later AFTER HE MUST HAVE BEEN TAUGHT AND OBSERVED.

same thing with animals. No animal knows what you are saying until you teach and they observe then to their ability they would respond INTELLIGENTLY to what you say which you have already taught them.

No matter how you teach an animal how to speak it can NEVER give you it's opinion on the Fulani herdsmen problem and profer a simple solution. It is impossible. You can teach a human that but you can NEVER get an animal to do that ever. Or are you deny that fact?

The real time conversation between eve and the snake remains an impossibility. No snake can hold a real.time conversation with any woman and convince her to do things against her will ever. It can only happen in mythical stories.

butterflyl1on:


SMH how does one deal with this level of ignorance daily?

You are mentioning their names and still asking me what names did Adam give them?

LMAO

I guess DOG is not name. Let me use dog as an example. Dogs at some point were said to have come from wolves (so says science) so this means that the first "dog " was named dog by man so as to differentiate it from wolves.

Dog and wolf are the names of a specific animal in a specific language, in this case the English language. What name did Adam give to the animals in the language he spoke? Which languagedid he speak? According to the bible the whole world spoke a single language from that time till the tower of bable time. What language was that?

Or were you thinking a name is something like Charles, akin, Gilbert and so on?

No wonder you argue with so much ignorance.

Another example. When man makes a discovery of a new life form or insect or virus or bacteria strain THEY NAME IT!

E. G Salmonella enterica serotype Typhi IS A NAME FOR TYPHOID IN THE STOMACH. Man named it so. Ordinarily it was just something very tiny swimming around in the intestinal walls but naming it gave it a class disctinction which is what names do. So stop thinking names like Charles or uche or dalaman were given.

Chai I Don die over this level of ignorance.

Genesis 2: 19 - 20




That scripture says he gave names to the ANIMALS, BIRDS AND LIVESTOCK. it did not say he gave names to the elephant, the lion the eagle the goat.

They had NO IDENTITY before. He gave them identity by such names as elephant, goat, eagle, etc.

What name did he give them in the language he spoke at that time? He did not give the name elephat, lion etc because he never sooke the English language. What language did he speak and what was the color of his skin? We are talking about Adam specifically and not other men so stop digressing.

NPComplete:



Lol. I like how halfwits come around to advice people on how to use their brain.

Confucius said, "when u stay long at the side of a river, even the body of ur enemies will flow by".
Given enough time any prophecy may seem to come to pass. Even Nostradamus prophecy just need time for something like that to occur. There are too many people and events in the world that if even u prophesy today and wait centuries, it will happen.
By the way, the Quran has been better at predicting some "scientific things" than the bible. Does that make the Quran true?

I've just wasted my on you. Peace. What is prediction in what I wrote. The Bible saying the earth is spherical before the scientist got to know is a prediction? You go school at all? Millions are mad but very few are roving.

dalaman:


It is NOT a conversation. NO animal in the world can hold real time conversation with a human being. Are you denying that fact? Conversation is not just about repeating words but expression. You express your thoughts, ideas and feelings when conversing with a person. No animal can be thought to do that in real time. It is impossible.




Stop making things up. No body is talking about humans speaking animals language.

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No matter how you teach an animal how to speak it can NEVER give you it's opinion on the Fulani herdsmen problem and profer a simple solution. It is impossible. You can teach a human that but you can NEVER get an animal to do that ever. Or are you deny that fact?

The real time conversation between eve and the snake remains an impossibility. No snake can hold a real.time conversation with any woman and convince her to do things against her will ever. It can only happen in mythical stories.

Let me ignore the rest of your illogical rambling and focus on the first comment.

You say conversation is not just about words right?

You say we express our thoughts and feelings and ideas right? How?

Is it not through words? Facial expressions often do not count which is why we have punctuation, exclamation, coma and so on in language.

Is it not through words we express our thoughts, feelings or ideas?

When you teach a dog that food follows such words as "I am hungry" it has learnt it and like mishka the husky who has been taught how to say "I am hungry"he now knows that he can only say this when he is hungry as food would follow.

If that isn't intelligent conversation then I wonder what is.

expression
noun
the action of making known one's thoughts or feelings.
a look on someone's face that conveys a particular emotion.

Again I ask you, how do we EXPRESS our thoughts or feelings?

How do you know animals are angry, happy, sad? Again let me use dogs. Would you say they have no expression as a whole? And since a dog has been taught to say words (mishka the husky) what else is left?

darkchild64:


For the third time I must comment on this post of yours to show you just how flawed it is,u claim the bible says the earth is round but it was only decades ago that the scientists confirmed that,then I would ask,if that passage that the bible made that claim is clear and truly interpreted as what u said,how come since the time the bible was being written and compiled no one noted that while reading it,rather it was only a few decades ago (going by what u said ) that scientists established the earth is round,and why do u even blv that report,I mean we are talking about astrology,which we all know has theories that disprove the bible ,much less science generally. All christians are the same just like what Butterfly1on had said earlier. u christians would always try to use science to validate the bible,but when it comes to evolution and other stuff that negate the bible,u dismiss science immediately

Do scientists believe in the Bible? Do they even believe there's a creator?

darkchild64:


The bible mentioned the earth is spherical in shape are you kidding me right now,okay let me not argue with you on that,but then I will tell u stop trying to use logic and science to prove the bible,for ur own good,however if u would wish to do so and accept that u would be completely logical in ur argument and not at some point start bringing up myths,then I would be interested in showing you the numerous scientific flaws the bible made

Bring it on sir. You will read it yourself. I will point to you where to read in the Bible.

darkchild64:


The bible mentioned the earth is spherical in shape are you kidding me right now,okay let me not argue with you on that,but then I will tell u stop trying to use logic and science to prove the bible,for ur own good,however if u would wish to do so and accept that u would be completely logical in ur argument and not at some point start bringing up myths,then I would be interested in showing you the numerous scientific flaws the bible made

Isaiah 40:22 please read.

dalaman:


Dog and wolf are the names of a specific animal in a specific language, in this case the English language. What name did Adam give to the animals in the language he spoke? Which languagedid he speak? According to the bible the whole world spoke a single language from that time till the tower of bable time. What language was that?

What did he give them in the language he spoke at that time? He did not give the name elephat, lion etc because he never sooke the English language. What language did he speak and what was the color of his skin? We are talking about Adam specifically and not other men so stop digressing

Now you are not dragging about name given you are now shifting to language spoken? How does the language alter the fact that a name was given?

In your village are eagles called eagles in your local dialect? What manner of idiocy do you like pushing forward?


In my dialect, which is yoruba animals have their own man given names like

Alligator -Ahọnrihọn
Pig -Ẹlẹdẹ
Vulture -Igun, Gunnugun, Gurugu, Akala
Hawks – Asa
Palm Bird -Ologiri
Sparrow -Ologoṣẹ
Peacock -Ọkin
Squirrel -Ọkẹrẹ
Rabbit -Ehoro
crickets -Okinrin and so on.

Our original language was not English. English does not belong to Africa, same way Yoruba does not belong to America. However, regardless of the language forms, man still names them as he pleases. You cannot translate Ọkẹrẹ (squirrel) to mean squirrel in english BUT YOU KNOW IT IS SQUIRREL. you can not translate Ehoro (rabbit) to mean rabbit in English BUT YOU KNOW IT IS RABBIT.

what language did we have before in my zone was it not Yoruba before English came? Who taught the Yoruba speaking tribe the names to call these animals? How did they know what to call whichever one?

Do you reason at all?

Same is applicable ALL OVER THE WORLD REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN.

In Hindi an ant is called chentee, a bear is called bhaloo, a butterfly is called titalee etc why do they also have their own animal name versions?

Please dalaman stop throwing these your illogicalities around like an award. I am tired of seeing them

I wonder what Batman(The Master) and Robin(apprentice wey dey learn "werk"), have to say about this matter!!!

Let's check down below and see!!!

butterflyl1on:


Now you are not dragging about name given you are now shifting to language spoken? How does the language alter the fact that a name was given?

In your village are eagles called eagles in your local dialect? What manner of idiocy do you like pushing forward?


In my dialect, which is yoruba animals have their own man given names like

Alligator -Ahọnrihọn
Pig -Ẹlẹdẹ
Vulture -Igun, Gunnugun, Gurugu, Akala
Hawks – Asa
Palm Bird -Ologiri
Sparrow -Ologoṣẹ
Peacock -Ọkin
Squirrel -Ọkẹrẹ
Rabbit -Ehoro
crickets -Okinrin and so on.

Our original language was not English. English does not belong to Africa, same way Yoruba does not belong to America. However, regardless of the language forms, man still names them as he pleases. You cannot translate Ọkẹrẹ (squirrel) to mean squirrel in english BUT YOU KNOW IT IS SQUIRREL. you can not translate Ehoro (rabbit) to mean rabbit in English BUT YOU KNOW IT IS RABBIT.

what language did we have before in my zone was it not Yoruba before English came? Who taught the Yoruba speaking tribe the names to call these animals? How did they know what to call whichever one?

Do you reason at all?

Same is applicable ALL OVER THE WORLD REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN.

In Hindi an ant is called chentee, a bear is called bhaloo, a butterfly is called titalee etc why do they also have their own animal name versions?

Please dalaman stop throwing these your illogicalities around like an award. I am tired of seeing them

What language did Adam speak?

dalaman:


What language did Adam speak?

What language is spoken in your village? Is there a place with no language? Who taught your ancestors the language they spoke?

butterflyl1on:


Let me ignore the rest of your illogical rambling and focus on the first comment.

You say conversation is not just about words right?

You say we express our thoughts and feelings and ideas right? How?

Is it not through words? Facial expressions often do not count which is why we have punctuation, exclamation, coma and so on in language.

Is it not through words we express our thoughts, feelings or ideas?

When you teach a dog that food follows such words as "I am hungry" it has learnt it and like mishka the husky who has been taught how to say "I am hungry"he now knows that he can only say this when he is hungry as food would follow.

If that isn't intelligent conversation then I wonder what is.

expression
noun
the action of making known one's thoughts or feelings.
a look on someone's face that conveys a particular emotion.

Again I ask you, how do we EXPRESS our thoughts or feelings?

How do you know animals are angry, happy, sad? Again let me use dogs. Would you say they have no expression as a whole? And since a dog has been taught to say words (mishka the husky) what else is left?

No matter how you teach a dog how to speak it can never hold a conversation in real time with any human being. You can never teach a dog how to speak and it will come and tell you that it is hungry and wants to eat white rice and stew so pls you should hurry up and get it for it. It CAN NEVER happen no matter how you lie. It is impossible.

Are you denying the fact that animals can not hold real time conversation with humans? You can never teach an animal how to hod real time conversation with you no matter how you try. It is impossible. You can lie all you want but it is impossible. It only happens in mythical stories and not in reality.

dalaman:


No matter how you teach a dog how to speak it can never hold a conversation in real time with any human being. You can never teach a dog how to speak and it will come and tell you that it is hungry and wants to eat white rice and stew so pls you should hurry up and get it for it. It CAN NEVER happen no matter how you lie. It is impossible.

Are you denying the fact that animals can not hold real time conversation with humans? You can never teach an animal how to hod real time conversation with you no matter how you try. It is impossible. You can lie all you want but it is impossible. It only happens in mythical stories and not in reality.

More of your illogical award winning nonsense. *facepalm*

A conversation is not carried out due to duration but a conversation can be a singular sentence or question or even word.

Eg. Hungry? (question)
Answer : yes

That is conversation.

Or

Happy? (question)
Answer: perhaps

That is conversation.

I think I have had enough of your illogicalities for one day. Thanks for the time.

butterflyl1on:


More of your illogical award winning nonsense. *facepalm*

A conversation is not carried out due to duration but a conversation can be a singular sentence or question or even word.

Eg. Hungry? (question)
Answer : yes

That is conversation.

Or

Happy? (question)
Answer: perhaps

That is conversation.

I think I have had enough of your illogicalities for one day. Thanks for the time.

Quite frankly, you are so shameless.

So by your definition, it is possible to have a conversation with a dog?



Nonsense

superhumanist:



Quite frankly, you are so shameless.

So by your definition, it is possible to have a conversation with a dog?



Nonsense

Yes it is. Not just a dog but also a robot, your iPhone, your laptop, etc.

You aren't thinking obviously.

Maximus85:


I've just wasted my on you. Peace. What is prediction in what I wrote. The Bible saying the earth is spherical before the scientist got to know is a prediction? You go school at all? Millions are mad but very few are roving.

You are an idiot. Took you 3 days for your brain to think up a reply. Lol. Empty nincompoop.

Everyone look at what this goat initially said and I replied:

If the Bible is a story book, then the writers must have been damn good seers, because many things written thousands of years ago are happening now. You're one of the true stories... People who would contest the authenticity of the Bible. The Bible mentioned that the earth is spherical in shape many decades before scientists came realize it after decades of believing the earth is flat

It was the first part of that senseless quote that I was replying when I told u any prediction can come to pass given enough time. Then I replied the second part about the bible knowing the earth is round by letting u know that the Quran also gets a lot of scientific fact accurately but that does not in anyway validate the quran.
Instead of comprehension, your leaky brain muddled it altogether and started seeing things.
Next time I will be a little helpful and use a teaching aid. lol. It seems there are many lazy pseudointellectuals on Nairaland. What a disgrace.

Also, no, scientists never believed the earth was flat. People believed it. Not scientists. Stop sniffing your own faeces maybe ur brain wouldn't be malfunctioning.

Even some ancient Greeks knew the earth is spherical before scientists did. They could theorise from the shadow the earth cast on the moon during an eclipse.

By the way, the bible believes in a geocentric solar system so please stop being an idiot. Get the Bleep out of my mentions.

Even the Quran discusses about iron and some metals and how they are formed. Does that make the Quran true? Fcking idiots quoting me. Geez

butterflyl1on:


More of your illogical award winning nonsense. *facepalm*

A conversation is not carried out due to duration but a conversation can be a singular sentence or question or even word.

Eg. Hungry? (question)
Answer : yes

That is conversation.

Or

Happy? (question)
Answer: perhaps

That is conversation.

I think I have had enough of your illogicalities for one day. Thanks for the time.

No matter how you lie and day rubbish, the conversation btw Eve and the Snake as written in the bible can NEVER happen btw an animal and a Human being. It can only happen in fictitious and mythical folklore.

Animals no matter how well trained can not have real time conversations of that nature ever. Lie all you want hut it remains impossible. I laugh at the extent you can even lie to yourself just because you want ancient Jewish mythology to appear real.

butterflyl1on:


What language is spoken in your village? Is there a place with no language? Who taught your ancestors the language they spoke?

My Village speaks a language called Idoma. Your village speaks a language called Yoruba. The name of the language Adam spoke is called what? Tell me.

dalaman:


No matter how you lie and day rubbish, the conversation btw Eve and the Snake as written in the bible can NEVER happen btw an animal and a Human being. It can only happen in fictitious and mythical folklore.

Animals no matter how well trained can not have real time conversations of that nature ever. Lie all you want hut it remains impossible. I laugh at the extent you can even lie to yourself just because you want ancient Jewish mythology to appear real.

This will be my last response to you over this issue as I cannot afford to be exposed any further to your illogicalities..

The problem you are having (as always) is with the word CONVERSATION.

Here are videos of people conversing with robots


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pKczGG19uo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E


Robots simply give our what they have been taught (programmed) to do.

Animals do same.

If talking with a robot is called A CONVERSATION even when it is programmed, then what do you think talking with a dog or a parrot is called? Remember the dog or parrot is also programmed through teaching.

So what is it called? A monologue?

I am done.

Buterfly1ion can be right , animal and human can communicate telepathically. Animal gets your intentions, emotions, images, or thoughts behind the words just like growing human baby. even if the words themselves are not totally understood. They can not make proper speech like human because their orgarns do not support it.....The bible do not record what means of communication exist between eve and serpent. Maybe it is speech like or telepathy means. No one knows. Unless you knows ? Then we can then ask what language? Heavenly or earthly? But since nothing like that. butterflyl1on may logically claim that communication exist between eve and serpent.


I will like to know if bible specifically indicate the mode of the communication?

dalaman:


My Village speaks a language called Idoma. Your village speaks a language called Yoruba. The name of the language Adam spoke is called what? Tell me.

Would you have known my language if I did not tell you? Would you know Adams language is he does not tell you? Would I know your language if you did not tell me?

I am done.