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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:26pm On Jan 18, 2018
tintingz:
Thank goodness!

We twins are dominating, congrats to the parents. smiley
angry angry undecided
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:13am On Jan 22, 2018

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 8:11am On Feb 02, 2018
I just saw that Muslims singles matchmaking thread had been closed since 2016.... Anyone knows why? Like did something happen?

Empiree
Maclatunji
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:35pm On Feb 02, 2018
Hkana:
I just saw that Muslims singles matchmaking thread had been closed since 2016.... Anyone knows why? Like did something happen?

Empi.ree
Maclatunji
thought you knew this cheesy
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 3:59pm On Feb 02, 2018
Lol.... No. I was aware the period the thread was opened but I didn't follow it.
I stumbled on it today while going through this section, I thought to see what's up then I saw "thread closed" lol. Not cool. grin
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:34pm On Feb 04, 2018
LORD HAVE MERCY. CHAI, THIS ONE TIRE ME OOO



How l found out I’m not the the father of my 4 children after 22 years of marriage

He’s a 52 year old civil engineer. And his wife, a pharmacist, 50, both raised four children – 21, 19, 16 and 13.

The couple met in 1993, and married in 1995. And raised their four children to the best of their abilities with all the resources at their disposal… Until October 2017.

That’s when he discovered that all four are not his biological children! After DNA tests at HumGene Ltd in Lagos proved that he’s not in anyway related to the children that meant the world to him.

Here’s the distraught father’s narration of how his world collapsed…

This is my story:

On the 20th of September 2017, my 3rd child who happens to be a female was critically ill in the hospital and the doctor informed us that she needs an urgent blood transfusion.

My wife and I were in the hospital and we both decided to have our blood tested in other to know who has the same blood group with our daughter. But to our surprise when the result came out, we were informed that none of us has the same blood group with our daughter. We had to find a way out as soon as possible.

Fortunately for us, our first son came and he happened to be a match. I was innocent about the whole thing because I didn’t know the implication of a child not matching either of the parent’s blood group. After the whole thing was taken care of, the doctor called me in privately to ask if I was the real father of my own daughter. At first, I was furious but I calmed down and answered him by saying, “Of course, why would you be asking me such question?”

He went ahead to explain how a child can have either the mother’s or father’s blood group. I was confused and I asked him what he was trying to tell me. And he said it’s either I’m not the father of the child or my wife is not the mother because one of us is supposed to match. But since none is a match there is a problem. I didn’t take it seriously because it was sounding odd to me. When I informed my wife about it, her answer was, “Don’t mind that stupid doctor.”

After 3 days, our daughter was discharged from the hospital. My mind was no longer at rest because I didn’t know what to do. I went back to the doctor and asked for advice on what I should do. He told me that if I wanted to be sure of everything, I should have a paternity test done on my daughter. When he mentioned that to me, I almost collapsed because I know what that means. It was too much for me to handle. But I had to be a man and face whatever is about to happen. I asked him if I should do the same thing for the remaining 3. He told me that will be a good idea if I can afford it.

I decided to take the bold step even though it was not easy. I asked him if he has an idea of where I can carry out the test here in Lagos and the cost. He advised me of 2 places and their prices. Coincidentally, a friend of mine told me that he saw an advert on Facebook about a company known as HumGene Limited, that they offer the cheapest DNA Paternity test in Nigeria. I quickly called the number they put on the advert and I spoke with the CEO of the company just to confirm if it’s actually true. She was nice and helpful and booked an appointment for me to come in with my 4 children in order to take samples from us. I asked her how accurate the result can be, and she said 99.99% if am the father and 0% if am not the father.

When we all arrived at her office, she told me to come in alone. She asked me for my story and if I was ready for this because the result could be either way and especially 4 children involved, the eldest is 21 years old. At first, I was scared and she asked me if I wanted to take time to think about it before making the decision. I was surprised and asked her if she doesn’t want money. She smiled and answered me by saying: “ Sir, it’s not just all about the money, I think of my clients’ psychological well being first.”

I had to be a man and I told her I was ready. I asked her when the result will be ready and she said 5 working days because she is yet to start the analysis in Nigeria. So, for now, she sends the samples to her partner company in Canada.

The waiting period seemed like a hundred years to me. When the results came in, she called me to come in for them. I was scared but at the same time, I wanted to know the truth. When I got to her office, counselling began even before giving me the results, I just knew the worst has happened but I didn’t expect it to be all my children that I have laboured for all my life, giving them the best in life. But unfortunately for me when I opened the results all the 4 children were not mine. 3 sons and 1 daughter. I couldn’t hold it as a man, I broke down in tears.

At first, I taught I was dreaming and waiting to wake up from sleep. The trauma was too much for me.

When I got home, I called my wife to the bedroom immediately and gave her the results. She denied everything. I wanted to believe her to make myself happy. I went ahead to call the CEO of HumGene Limited to ask her if she was sure about the result. I spoke with her with an angry tone, but she was calm and told me she is very sure and referred me to other places I can try doing another test. She informed me that although the prices are higher.

I didn’t know what to do and I went to the doctor that advised me to go for the paternity test. When he saw the results, he told me this can’t be a mistake because DNA does not lie and that the 22 loci region is the highest in the Paternity test. I felt more convinced and went back home. I told my wife that if she does not tell me the truth I will go ahead to our church pastor and show them the result. After hearing me say that, she broke down into tears and confession started.

She had all my supposed to be children for the same man. That was why our son had same blood group with the sister. She has refused to tell me the man and the reason why she did what she did.

We are yet to tell the children and our family members. I’m in great shock and don’t know where to start from.

The CEO of HumGene Limited has been of great help taking her time to counsel me anytime I needed that. I need advise. Please, what should I do? Men out there you need to be vigilant.


Here is a short interview with the civil engineer…

Were you always travelling when the children were conceived?

I was travelling a lot, but the maximum time I spend out of the house is 2 weeks. I do not keep track of when my wife gets pregnant.



Do you know the father of your ‘children’?

No, my wife is holding on to that.



Can you have babies?

I have never doubted that. So, I didn’t have any reason to check if I’m medically okay to have children.But I do not feel any abnormality in himself. I will go for a test to check, but I’m not in the right state of mind now.



What do you do? And your wife?

I’m a Civil Engineer, my wife is a pharmacist.



Why are you still living with her?

I am no longer living in the house now, I’m staying in the hotel.



When were the tests done?

Samples were submitted on the 3rd of October 2017 and results received on the 10th of October 2017.



What did you tell the children when the tests were done?

We told them they were going for a general checkup for genetic testing since HumGene Limited offers the services for that.



What kind of samples were taken?

Buccal Swabs.



Were the children not curious?

Not at all. We didn’t give them any reason to be curious.



Who have you told about the result?

Only my wife and the Doctor that suggested the test.



What’s your wife saying?

Just crying as usual and refused to tell me the reason behind her actions, I moved out the next day because I don’t want to be in the same house with her. The more I see her, the angrier I get, and I don’t want it to lead to something I will regret.



Are you not scared for your life?

I’m not, but this question is now making me think if I should be scared, I can’t think straight right now.



What do you want to do now?

To be honest with you, I’m yet to come to a decision. It’s very difficult. I have worked so hard to give the children the best anyone can imagine giving to their children.



How much did the tests cost?

For myself and one child, it was ₦60,000.00 and an extra child was ₦40,000. In total, I paid ₦180,000 for myself and the 4 children.



Blood group: Husband (A), wife (AB), first child (O+), second (B+), third (O+), fourth (B+)

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:27am On Feb 10, 2018
They are obviously not muslims


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFcQHYq5E3c
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:37pm On Feb 12, 2018
This so called prince is careless. He's adding salt to wound. He's truly a school boy as sheikh imran called him. See how Saudi shuyukh switched mouth.

Now, let us reason to Hadith which says there will be Earthquake in Arabia and it will throw away hypocrites and kufar from the land. The Hadith is about to be active.

This is not moderation.

Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:26pm On Feb 12, 2018
This is serious


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One night Muhammad ibn al Munkadir was crying so violently that his family got extremely worried and called the great scholar Abu Hazim to calm him down.
Abu Hazim RA asked him 'my brother what has made you cry so much, and you have made your family worry about you?'


Muhammad RA replied 'I read an ayah in the book of Allah and it brought me to these tears' he was then asked what the ayah was. Muhammad responded, 'it is the statement in which Allah SWT says "And there
will appear to them from Allah, that which they had not taken in to account.''


Upon hearing this ayah, Abu Hazim became so emotional that even he started crying.
Think of standing before Allah swt on the day of judgment thinking I have done da'wah, and prayed and read Qur'an that there will be no major sins on my scale on the day of judgment, .....and then suddenly sins appear that I had not even taken in to account.
What if I sinned but shaytaan made me forget to make taubah...? or what if i committed a sin for which my taubah was not accepted?


What if i hurt someones' feelings and didn't know but they held it against me? What if I teach someone an evil thing & they went ahead teaching others! Allahu Akbar!


I ask al-Afuw (the one who erases sins) to not just cover my sins but erase them and wipe the slate clean.
Wallahi I think good of Allah, but i am scared and so should you on the basis of a dream that the uncle of the Prophet (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had; Abbas RA states 'I had not seen a person better than Umar, he spent his nights praying, his days fasting and fulfilling the needs of people.


When he died I asked Allah to show him to me in a dream. Allah showed him to me, I saw him walking through Madinah. I asked him "what did you find after death?" and Umar replied "i have just finished
being questioned, my throne (position as a ruler) almost caused me to fall, except that I found a Merciful Lord"


Even the son of Umar RA, Abdullah ibn Umar saw his father in a dream and asked him how long his
questioning had lasted in the grave, and Umar RA responded 'it has just finished and when he woke he realized it had been 12 years since the death of 'Umar!
Bear in mind this is Umar RA we are talking about, the man that the Prophet (saw) said would be a
Prophet, if there was to be a Prophet after him, the man that the shaytaan was scared of and would run across the street if he saw him, the man that opened up more territory for the Muslims under his rule
than any other! And he was not spared from questioning... 12 yearrrrrrs in the grave!
Make taubah now, in the 3rd part of the night, ask Allah to forgive you for your sins and to not hold you accountable for that which you have not taken in to account for He is the best of those who are merciful.



Please I BEG you, share if you can,
And share so other may benefit as well.
BarakAllah feek.����Masha Allah .
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:16am On Feb 13, 2018
Hkana,

remember the story last yr of a woman who stole a baby from hospital in Florida almost 20yrs ago?. She pled guilty today and about to be sentenced to zero (0)years to 22 years in prison in May. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/woman-pleads-guilty-1998-baby-kidnapping-garnered-national-175503978--abc-news-topstories.html

The baby who is now 18 might ask for leniency though. I am not sure of her biological mother. For the fact that her sentence starts from zero years suggest she might even get peanut prison term, which s what i want grin but you want long prison term for her angry

Many cops have killed innocent citizens deliberately but they got rewarded with suspension and payday
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 8:08am On Feb 13, 2018
^^

Lol. Egbon, I had actually forgotten about that case. But, the woman didn't do right honestly. Stealing someone's kid.
I can't remember my old judgement but I think they should just find out her age and give her twice of it as sentence with hard labour grin And if the kid tries to plead leniency, she should be admitted to a rehab where they'll treat her for "chronic" Stockholm syndrome cheesy

Hahaha. But seriously, I think the judgement and her consequent sentence would be based on how all the involved parties feel about the unfortunate event.

May Allah save us from such, Amin.

She didn't do right honestly.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 6:09pm On Feb 13, 2018
Hkana:
I can't remember my old judgement


This was your "judgement" handed down a year ago
Hkana:


Considering all the evidence before me, I sentence madam abductor to a life in solitary confinement, I also strip her of the right to contest my judgment and I sentence her husband who was a passive accomplice to two years community service. I rise..... Hehehe. Lol



Now, a year later, your position didnt change. She is now 52 years old cheesy Seems that's what judge tries to do. 22yrs sentence is almost twice her ago.. Man, you be good judge. Even if they sentence her without any form of reference to the girl, the girl may plea on her behalf.


Hkana:
but I think they should just find out her age and give her twice of it as sentence with hard labour grin And if the kid tries to plead leniency, she should be admitted to a rehab where they'll treat her for "chronic" Stockholm syndrome cheesy
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 8:41pm On Feb 13, 2018
grin grin grin

Egbon, I actually went back to read the initial news.... *sigh* let's just see what the court's final verdict would be.

But did she (abductor) state her reasons? I'd like to know what inspired her to pull that off.
Plus, has she been in custody all this time? The initial post is over a year old. January something 2017
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 11:15pm On Feb 13, 2018
^^^

No, she didnt state her reason for making dumb move. Far as i am concerned, it is obsession with babies. She dressed like a nurse and took available baby. But then, how she was able to get out of hospital without security measures baffles me. Maybe there was no security plan at the time. But now, definitely there are security to check tag on the baby and mother before clearance.

I would not support long jail term for her. I am for light punishment only for the purpose of deterrent. She could have killed the baby and nothing would have happened. Her case is fair. I will try to read more if i can find her reason behind her stupid action. She only pled guilty but didnt say why she did what she did.

How about a guy that abducted a girl of my age in 1993 and she has 2 beautiful kids for him in his house and neither kids nor the mother were allowed to step out of the house for a good 17yrs. She didnt live normal American life. His cover was blown when abductor made stupid mistake by allowing her to take the kids to school for registration. Questions she was asked raised eyebrow, like her kids social security and she couldn't provide one. She said they don't have. Thats surprising bcuz kids are automatically issued social security number after they are born. So that triggered investigation and the guy was busted. He died in prison while investigation was ongoing. He couldn't take the stress being behind bars for the rest of his life bcus he was told by police and his defense lawyer he will go to jail forever before court date was even picked.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Hkana: 8:20am On Feb 14, 2018
Empiree:


I would not support long jail term for her. I am for light punishment only for the purpose of deterrent. She could have killed the baby and nothing would have happened. Her case is fair.


Like I said last year, I dey suspect you bro... Lol. Light sentence for which deterrent. Lol.
The truth is, the deed has been done.
Bolded is very true. Thank God she didn't do that. I only feel for the biological parents, the mom especially. Except, the abductor felt the biological mother wouldn't have been able to care for the child... Like a teenage pregnancy or maybe a drug junkie. That's where my sympathy for the biological mother would go out the window cheesy





He died in prison while investigation was ongoing. He couldn't take the stress being behind bars for the rest of his life bcus he was told by police and his defense lawyer he will go to jail forever before court date was even picked.

Hahaha.. The bolded part made my morning. Lol
I love that guy. No time for any white lie... He probably was repulsed by the abductor.
But America sha... Too many psychos. I see it in some of their movies and I force myself to not believe it's really that bad but real life news points to it being even worse than in the movies.
Na wa.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:53pm On Feb 22, 2018
Think over what a great scholar Shaikh Ahmad Deedat says concerning Sunni-Shi'a divide


"Can you imagine we Sunnis are 90% of the Muslim world and the 10% who are Shias want to be partners and brothers with you in faith and the 90% are terrified. I can't understand why should you the 90% be so terrified. They should be the ones terrified. And if you just knew the feelings that they have for you. During Jummah prayers in Iran, there are a million people. And you should see the way they look at you when you pass by, they recognize that you are a foreigner and not one of them and tears start rolling down their cheeks. This is the feeling that they have for you, but you say no, you want to keep them out, afraid that they will absolve you. You can only be absolved if there is something better than what you have. I don't know, maybe some of you think I am a Shia, but I'm still with you all here. What is all this Shia-Sunni tensions? It is all politics. These antagonisms we have are all politics now."


- Sheikh Ahmed Deedat, 1982 in his lectures in Durban, RSA, after his experience in Iran.

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 10:54am On Feb 23, 2018
May Allaah protect and grant the Muslims in Ghouta victory, no doubt the Nusayris will be humiliated!
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 10:59am On Feb 23, 2018
Empiree:
Think over what a great scholar Shaikh Ahmad Deedat says concerning Sunni-Shi'a divide


"Can you imagine we Sunnis are 90% of the Muslim world and the 10% who are Shias want to be partners and brothers with you in faith and the 90% are terrified. I can't understand why should you the 90% be so terrified. They should be the ones terrified. And if you just knew the feelings that they have for you. During Jummah prayers in Iran, there are a million people. And you should see the way they look at you when you pass by, they recognize that you are a foreigner and not one of them and tears start rolling down their cheeks. This is the feeling that they have for you, but you say no, you want to keep them out, afraid that they will absolve you. You can only be absolved if there is something better than what you have. I don't know, maybe some of you think I am a Shia, but I'm still with you all here. What is all this Shia-Sunni tensions? It is all politics. These antagonisms we have are all politics now."


- Sheikh Ahmed Deedat, 1982 in his lectures in Durban, RSA, after his experience in Iran.
This is because the Sheikh didn't actually know reality about Shi'as. Every Sunni (including myself) used to believe everything is politics and a ploy to divide the Muslims not until I saw how dangerous and illogical Shiism is.

Of course, if the Sheikh knew that they cursed our mothers (Aisha and Hafsah), despise Abubakar, Umar and Uthman; do you really think he will or even a man with an atom of sense and dignity praise them? NO!!!!

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 11:27am On Feb 23, 2018
Demmzy15:
This is because the Sheikh didn't actually know reality about Shi'as. Every Sunni (including myself) used to believe everything is politics and a ploy to divide the Muslims not until I saw how dangerous and illogical Shiism is.

Of course, if the Sheikh knew that they cursed our mothers (Aisha and Hafsah), despise Abubakar, Umar and Uthman; do you really think he will or even a man with an atom of sense and dignity praise them? NO!!!!


# Unfortunately for your life, what the sheik knew about Shiism was more than what you will ever know. This is because the Sheik constantly let his brain (intellect) guide his emotions. It is the opposite for people like you.


# First, cursing is never Shiism. Meaning it is never ordered or recommended by any of our Imams whether as part of usul deen or furu'u deen. What is part of our furu'u deen is al-wala wa al-bara'.


# Second, yes some Shia do curse Abubakr et al. How does that prove cursing to be part of Shi'i doctrines? And to the millions majority of Shia that don't curse your "lords", you will rant that they are using taqiyyah. Believe it or not, I have never ever witness in any mosque or majalis in IRAN and IRAQ where your beloved sahabah were being cursed. Those are the two most populated Shia strongholds. Are they also using taqiyah?


# Third, how is loving or cursing Abubakr, Umar et al part of Iman or make one Kafir? How is their love or hate key to Jannah or jahanam? The only set of people that their love is pegged to Iman, and hatred to fasiq are the Ahl al-Bayt of Nabiyy, and to remove any ambiguity, Nabi himself specifically mention their names saying for example, " whoever curse Ali has curse me," "loving Ali is sign of Iman, and hating him is hypocrisy".


# If Shia is condemned for cursing Abubakr, Umar et al, why can't Sunni condemn the condemned sahabah like Mu'awiyah, Mughirah Ibn Shu'bah, Marwan ibn al-Hakam, Hakam and the rests whose Sunnah was not only cursing Ali but also institutionalised it, and were known as Nawasib? Is that not your double standard?

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Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 11:38am On Feb 23, 2018
AlBaqir:

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# Unfortunately for your life, what the sheik knew about Shiism was more than what you will ever know. This is because the Sheik constantly let his brain (intellect) guide his emotions. It is the opposite for people like you.


# First, cursing is never Shiism. Meaning it is never ordered or recommended by any of our Imams whether as part of usul deen or furu'u deen. What is part of our furu'u deen is al-wala wa al-bara'.


# Second, yes some Shia do curse Abubakr et al. How does that prove cursing to be part of Shi'i doctrines? And to the millions majority of Shia that don't curse your "lords", you will rant that they are using taqiyyah. Believe it or not, I have never ever witness in any mosque or majalis in IRAN and IRAQ where your beloved sahabah were being cursed. Those are the two most populated Shia strongholds. Are they also using taqiyah?


# Third, how is loving or cursing Abubakr, Umar et al part of Iman or make one Kafir? How is their love or hate key to Jannah or jahanam? The only set of people that their love is pegged to Iman, and hatred to fasiq are the Ahl al-Bayt of Nabiyy, and to remove any ambiguity, Nabi himself specifically mention their names saying for example, " whoever curse Ali has curse me," "loving Ali is sign of Iman, and hating him is hypocrisy".


# If Shia is condemned for cursing Abubakr, Umar et al, why can't Sunni condemn the condemned sahabah like Mu'awiyah, Mughirah Ibn Shu'bah, Marwan ibn al-Hakam, Hakam and the rests whose Sunnah was not only cursing Ali but also institutionalised it, and were known as Nawasib? Is that not your double standard?[/s]
Wail all you like, today is Friday. We know what you all love to do, get out to the streets, slap and beat your cursed face while shouting "Death to America! Death to Israel!" Oya, go slap yourself!

As for your most populated centres, Sunnis are also inhabitants of those areas, so it's definitely taqqiyah. We remember that Khamenei is supposedly against disturbing and hate against Sunni figures(in which he portrays Sunnis as Muslims), but he hypocritical nods and agrees with poems that say anyone who doesn't agree with the Imamate of Aliyy, then his Islam is a sham. So you're not deceiving anyone here!
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 12:32pm On Feb 23, 2018
Demmzy15:
This is because the Sheikh didn't actually know reality about Shi'as. Every Sunni (including myself) used to believe everything is politics and a ploy to divide the Muslims not until I saw how dangerous and illogical Shiism is.

Of course, if the Sheikh knew that they cursed our mothers (Aisha and Hafsah), despise Abubakar, Umar and Uthman; do you really think he will or even a man with an atom of sense and dignity praise them? NO!!!!
why did you show up only for this bro?. Everything you alleged there are not criteria to disregard shia by shariah standard. Besides, all Shias do that?
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 3:34pm On Feb 23, 2018
Saudi Dilutes Islam Further, Plans $64b Splash On Entertainment

https://theeagleonline.com.ng/saudi-dilutes-islam-further-plans-64b-splash-on-entertainment/
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:00pm On Feb 23, 2018
Empiree:
why did you show up only for this bro?. Everything you alleged there are not criteria to disregard shia by shariah standard. Besides, all Shias do that?
Millions do it and you know it, in Iraaq supposedly "peaceful" Shi'a priest Muqtada Al Sadr organizes plays which thousands of Iraaqi Shi'as attend that portrays the Sahabah(especially) in the worse of manners. It was due to some of radicalization that made many Shias during the Sectarian War to kill Sunnis for bearing the name Umar.

It's very unfortunate that you still ally with this despite all what he has made apparent. Wallahi, if he has this, who knows what he is hiding. In as much as I hate their beliefs, I don't call to killing and terrorizing, so dont paint me in that light. In many Shi'a cities, just look at how their husseiniyats get filled up when it's about Umar, Aisha, Mu'awiyah or Karbala.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Demmzy15(m): 8:01pm On Feb 23, 2018
AlBaqir:
Saudi Dilutes Islam Further, Plans $64b Splash On Entertainment

https://theeagleonline.com.ng/saudi-dilutes-islam-further-plans-64b-splash-on-entertainment/
You've been duly noticed, now swerve!
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:13am On Feb 24, 2018
Demmzy15:
Millions do it and you know it, in Iraaq supposedly "peaceful" Shi'a priest Muqtada Al Sadr organizes plays which thousands of Iraaqi Shi'as attend that portrays the Sahabah(especially) in the worse of manners. It was due to some of radicalization that made many Shias during the Sectarian War to kill Sunnis for bearing the name Umar.

It's very unfortunate that you still ally with this despite all what he has made apparent. Wallahi, if he has this, who knows what he is hiding. In as much as I hate their beliefs, I don't call to killing and terrorizing, so dont paint me in that light. In many Shi'a cities, just look at how their husseiniyats get filled up when it's about Umar, Aisha, Mu'awiyah or Karbala.
They are muslims. That's sufficient. The issue of cursing sahaba is theoretical one and i dont agree with them. I hope you understand that some of them are just follow follow.
Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by AlBaqir(m): 4:14am On Feb 24, 2018
Empiree:
They are muslims. That's sufficient. The issue of cursing sahaba is theoretical one and i dont agree with them. I hope you understand that some of them are just follow follow.

# grin @bold. See how Shi'a is being weighed. Interestingly, just like Shia is on the weighing list of some Sunni whether a Shia is considered a "Muslim or kafir", is exactly how being a Sunni is being weighed up against Iman or kufr by some Shia. That is a musiba.

# Again Shiism has nothing to do with cursing sahabah though some shia might choose to curse some of the sahabah. Please always try to make clear your statement.

# Funny enough if we show you how these so-called sahabah continue to curse themselves, fight themselves, sow hatred among themselves, war and killed themselves, changed the Sunnah of Allah and His Prophet as documented in your own very book, you see nothing wrong with that but hypocritically focus on Shi'a and label them this and that for exposing these musiba of some sahabah.


# Again, how is exposing the evil of some sahabah, abusing and cursing the cursed ones among the sahabah synonymous to lost of one's faith? How is love or hatred of them condition to enter Jannah or Jahanam?

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