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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:10pm On Apr 16, 2018
nwaorlu:
Any help would be appreciated. I received a list of electrical supplies to purchase, it contains "Nos" on most of the item. Like (Nos 15A socket) or (Nos water heater switch). Is this a brand or requirement?

It's a description of quantity for item in question.

"Nos" is an abbreviation for " Numbers" .

It is akin to saying "pieces of"

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 10:24pm On Apr 16, 2018
allCopacetic:
Exterior Looks.....Post Cladding

This is ingenuity at its peak,replicating this structure in a 5000 square metres land area would be a sight to behold.

My reservations on the workability/acceptability are summarised below, and would appreciate co structured response on how to solve the following shortfalls I envisage on this project.

1.Security, how secure is the structure from outside intrusion- Awon boys!
2.Town planing approval / documentation
3.Safetty from rain and lightning (thunder storm)
4.Ventilation
5.Electrical wiring & safety standards
6.How many bedroom is the structure on the pictures and an estimated price range or spend required for this project

Thank you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:38pm On Apr 16, 2018
Flaghouse1:


This is ingenuity at its peak,replicating this structure in a 5000 square metres land area would be a sight to behold.

My reservations on the workability/acceptability are summarised below, and would appreciate co structured response on how to solve the following shortfalls I envisage on this project.

1.Security, how secure is the structure from outside intrusion- Awon boys!
2.Town planing approval / documentation
3.Safetty from rain and lightning (thunder storm)
4.Ventilation
5.Electrical wiring & safety standards
6.How many bedroom is the structure on the pictures and an estimated price range or spend required for this project

Thank you

Also look at long term. I have.

Still a good opportunity but

1) when not done and protected properly it has the potential to become a nightmare.

3) it’s not that cheaper than conventional build.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by allCopacetic: 10:50pm On Apr 16, 2018
Flaghouse1:


This is ingenuity at its peak,replicating this structure in a 5000 square metres land area would be a sight to behold.

My reservations on the workability/acceptability are summarised below, and would appreciate co structured response on how to solve the following shortfalls I envisage on this project.

1.Security, how secure is the structure from outside intrusion- Awon boys!
2.Town planing approval / documentation
3.Safetty from rain and lightning (thunder storm)
4.Ventilation
5.Electrical wiring & safety standards
6.How many bedroom is the structure on the pictures and an estimated price range or spend required for this project

Thank you
1. I Believe it is easier to breach a brick and mortar wall than a shipping container.
A few blows from a sledge hammer will give you easy acess to a brick and mortar wall, but you need some serious equipme to easily cut through this.

2. I don't see why town planning will deny you the pleasure of building your house with

3. I'm not sure what you mean by Safety from Rain, but with regards to lightning strikes, If sensitive equipment on telecom towers that are 99% metal with heights in tens of metres can be protected from Lightning strikes.....

4. Ventilation? ? That structure is superbly ventilated. Part of the beauty of metal is the ease of adaptability. you can cut openings as large or little as you like. In whatever shape or form, In any location. You can weld and create all sorts of burglar bars and attachments.look at those stairs for instance

5. Nothing special about this case, it's even more convenient and faster to wire a structure like this. It also poses less fire risks because of the materials used. Fire won't spread easily.
But note the use of the right kind of wire..... multicore flexible cables ( which have extra pvc sheating on top of the pvc insulation) as opposed to single core cables which have only pvc insulation. That way you do not run the risk of cable insulation getting bruised or peeling off and exposing the bare conductor to contact with any part of the metal body.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 11:02pm On Apr 16, 2018
allCopacetic:

1. I Believe it is easier to breach a brick and mortar wall than a shipping container.
A few blows from a sledge hammer will give you easy acess to a brick and mortar wall, but you need some serious equipme to easily cut through this.

2. I don't see why town planning will deny you the pleasure of building your house with

3. I'm not sure what you mean by Safety from Rain, but with regards to lightning strikes, If sensitive equipment on telecom towers that are 99% metal with heights in tens of metres can be protected from Lightning strikes.....

4. Ventilation? ? That structure is superbly ventilated. Part of the beauty of metal is the ease of adaptability. you can cut openings as large or little as you like. In whatever shape or form, In any location. You can weld and create all sorts of burglar bars and attachments.look at those stairs for instance

5. Nothing special about this case, it's even more convenient and faster to wire a structure like this. It also poses less fire risks because of the materials used. Fire won't spread easily.
But note the use of the right kind of wire..... multicore flexible cables ( which have extra pvc sheating on top of the pvc insulation) as opposed to single core cables which have only pvc insulation. That way you do not run the risk of cable insulation getting bruised or peeling off and exposing the bare conductor to contact with any part of the metal body.

Thank you. You have answered all my questions except pricing?Actually there is no system that can not breached what one needs to do is mitigate against the risk of security challenges.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:34pm On Apr 16, 2018
allCopacetic:
Location: Abuja, Nigeria.
One of several structures built by an Indigenous Company

Built from Scratch in Just 7 weeks using shipping containers ( as carcass) and other innovative green products..... It's amazing what can be done with creative thinking and the right resources
.
The advantages of such pre-engineered green houses are so numerous, It's a wonder this form of architecture is not widely adopted.

Wow. Very nice o. Wonder what will be the cost difference.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by HolyCraig: 2:39am On Apr 17, 2018
The 2bedroom container house will cost you a whopping 60million!


The figure killed the interest.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:49am On Apr 17, 2018
HolyCraig:
The 2bedroom container house will cost you a whopping 60million!

The figure killed the interest.

I no tell u? grin

The finish is what dictates how expensive a house ends up at.

I don't care if you build if from Pepsi bottles if it looks like that then it will be expensive.

There's no shortcut.

Just look at Spyder880s village house. See how much it cost him and he's a talented shopper that goes to market.

Anyone can throw a 2 bedroom shyteshack together for N5m or whatever but a good designed house with fop flight finishing specs? That one na another story.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:55am On Apr 17, 2018
allCopacetic:

1. I Believe it is easier to breach a brick and mortar wall than a shipping container.
A few blows from a sledge hammer will give you easy acess to a brick and mortar wall, but you need some serious equipme to easily cut through this.

2. I don't see why town planning will deny you the pleasure of building your house with

3. I'm not sure what you mean by Safety from Rain, but with regards to lightning strikes, If sensitive equipment on telecom towers that are 99% metal with heights in tens of metres can be protected from Lightning strikes.....

4. Ventilation? ? That structure is superbly ventilated. Part of the beauty of metal is the ease of adaptability. you can cut openings as large or little as you like. In whatever shape or form, In any location. You can weld and create all sorts of burglar bars and attachments.look at those stairs for instance

5. Nothing special about this case, it's even more convenient and faster to wire a structure like this. It also poses less fire risks because of the materials used. Fire won't spread easily.
But note the use of the right kind of wire..... multicore flexible cables ( which have extra pvc sheating on top of the pvc insulation) as opposed to single core cables which have only pvc insulation. That way you do not run the risk of cable insulation getting bruised or peeling off and exposing the bare conductor to contact with any part of the metal body.
Oga you did not answer #6 question, please get us the full details on that question. If this design is proving to be safe and affordable, this model will be a game changer. Don't be suppressed, 5000-6000sqm of land in middle of nowhere will be spring up to be mini towns.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:00am On Apr 17, 2018
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:01am On Apr 17, 2018
https://www.nairaland.com/4454064/shipping-container-prices-remodeled-shipping#66744794

"10ft container cost- N250,000
20ft container cost- N370,000
40ft container cost- N480,000
10ft well finished open office/space container (2 windows/1 door) cost- N 720,000
20ft well finished open office/space container (4 windows/1 door) cost- N 1,200,000
40ft well finished open office/space container (6 windows/1 door) cost- N 1,600,000

10ft remodeled house (room, kitchen, toilet, 2 windows/2 doors) cost- N 850,000
20ft remodeled house (room, kitchen, toilet, 4 windows/2 doors) cost- N 1,300,000
40ft remodeled house (2 rooms, kitchen, toilet, 6 windows/3 doors) cost- N 1,800,000

Containers can be creatively arranged and remodeled to form housing units,
Shipping Container house cost depends on models, arrangements, and Final finishes adopted
Our shipping container offices and houses are made to be cooler than conventional houses at the same time cheaper, and we deliver to you an awesome experience."
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 3:01am On Apr 17, 2018
HolyCraig:
The 2bedroom container house will cost you a whopping 60million!


The figure killed the interest.
you done spoil everything 60 million, how much be container the self.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:08am On Apr 17, 2018
kopell:
you done spoil everything 60 million, how much be container the self.

Free. If you have a crane and a trailer.

They liter Lagos - Ibadan Expressway. When they fall of the trailers, they just unload into another container because they don't have crane to lift it.

Heck, you can maybe even spin it to Ambode that you're beautifying Lagos by removing liter and they'll pay you grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 3:08am On Apr 17, 2018
EgunMogaji:
https://www.nairaland.com/4454064/shipping-container-prices-remodeled-shipping#66744794

"10ft container cost- N250,000
20ft container cost- N370,000
40ft container cost- N480,000
10ft well finished open office/space container (2 windows/1 door) cost- N 720,000
20ft well finished open office/space container (4 windows/1 door) cost- N 1,200,000
40ft well finished open office/space container (6 windows/1 door) cost- N 1,600,000

10ft remodeled house (room, kitchen, toilet, 2 windows/2 doors) cost- N 850,000
20ft remodeled house (room, kitchen, toilet, 4 windows/2 doors) cost- N 1,300,000
40ft remodeled house (2 rooms, kitchen, toilet, 6 windows/3 doors) cost- N 1,800,000

Containers can be creatively arranged and remodeled to form housing units,
Shipping Container house cost depends on models, arrangements, and Final finishes adopted
Our shipping container offices and houses are made to be cooler than conventional houses at the same time cheaper, and we deliver to you an awesome experience."
Egun wait oh. may be I no understand the grammar well, with this one way you throw here so. where the 60 million thing came in?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 3:15am On Apr 17, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Free. If you have a crane and a trailer.

They liter Lagos - Ibadan Expressway. When they fall of the trailers, they just unload into another container because they don't have crane to lift it.

Heck, you can maybe even spin it to Ambode that you're beautifying Lagos by removing liter and they'll pay you grin
this man you fit kill person with laugh, I will tell Ambode say we need them for Epe axit

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:00am On Apr 17, 2018
kopell:
Egun wait oh. may be I no understand the grammar well, with this one way you throw here so. where the 60 million thing came in?

Where did the N60M come from?

Cough...ahem..cough

Na Oyinbo build am now grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:40am On Apr 17, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by teaandteea: 7:41am On Apr 17, 2018
Call for bulldozer, grader, payloader, escavator and other earth shaking construction machines today..
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 7:55am On Apr 17, 2018
HINDER:
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Cough, koi koi.hun hun grin grin The leopard stories part 3. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:16am On Apr 17, 2018
allCopacetic:

1. I Believe it is easier to breach a brick and mortar wall than a shipping container.
A few blows from a sledge hammer will give you easy acess to a brick and mortar wall, but you need some serious equipme to easily cut through this.

2. I don't see why town planning will deny you the pleasure of building your house with

3. I'm not sure what you mean by Safety from Rain, but with regards to lightning strikes, If sensitive equipment on telecom towers that are 99% metal with heights in tens of metres can be protected from Lightning strikes.....

4. Ventilation? ? That structure is superbly ventilated. Part of the beauty of metal is the ease of adaptability. you can cut openings as large or little as you like. In whatever shape or form, In any location. You can weld and create all sorts of burglar bars and attachments.look at those stairs for instance

5. Nothing special about this case, it's even more convenient and faster to wire a structure like this. It also poses less fire risks because of the materials used. Fire won't spread easily.
But note the use of the right kind of wire..... multicore flexible cables ( which have extra pvc sheating on top of the pvc insulation) as opposed to single core cables which have only pvc insulation. That way you do not run the risk of cable insulation getting bruised or peeling off and exposing the bare conductor to contact with any part of the metal body.
Thanks for the explanation sir.
I saw a stair in one of the interior, what is the slab made of & what supports it? The foundation is also another issue....Unless H steel beams are gonna be planted in some corners, if not i fear for the durability & see it as a temporary structure....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 8:27am On Apr 17, 2018
HINDER:
man you guys are so dumb. who gives a shit if anyone creates another account. you see that's why black people are dumb and Nigeria is a third world shit hole because you care about dumb stupid stuff . Did I post anything wrong?I posted an interesting architectural idea for discussion but you prefer meaningless talk.

I may never come back to this forum once I leave and I may never visit Nigeria or even have any dealing with any black person ever again. you suck
@bold Totally uncalled for...
Tried going through your idea, can't find it...Seems u removed it sir?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:38am On Apr 17, 2018
Rubbiish:

@bold Totally uncalled for...
Tried going through your idea, can't find it...Seems u removed it sir?
too late
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:57am On Apr 17, 2018
HINDER:
too late
Lol...Too late? Meaning u yourself weren't sure & proud of the idea?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 11:07am On Apr 17, 2018
HINDER:
man you guys are so dumb. who gives a shit if anyone creates another account. you see that's why black people are dumb and Nigeria is a third world shit hole because you care about dumb stupid stuff . Did I post anything wrong?I posted an interesting architectural idea for discussion but you prefer meaningless talk.

I may never come back to this forum once I leave and I may never visit Nigeria or even have any dealing with any black person ever again. you suck



Why are you creating many accounts my friend? grin grin grin You said it before. Kai, faceless forum. We will catch you if you come back.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cindino20(m): 11:35am On Apr 17, 2018
shosky72:
Affordable houses


I m just curious on how you plan to build an "eco-friendly" 85 m2 house with 3 bedrooms with 2 Million naira and also make profit in 2018 AD...as my friends we say for this Buhari Regime cheesy grin

From the pictures on your ad...the finishing is okay...can you please post a brief summary of the cost of each stage...like foundation...block work to lintel..roofing...plumbin and wiring...etc.

Thanks

C.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 11:40am On Apr 17, 2018
We did discuss on this thread the advantages of cement screeding over the regular pop cement and paint screeding.
I was of the opinion cement screeding is better but not used much because of its slower drying and setting, hence why contractors that want to hurriedly leave one site for other jobs don't favor it.
like I mentioned then, it's stronger, smoother and the slow setting ensures there is no wastage of materials.
In gypsum screeding, after 10 to 15 minutes, the paste becomes too stiff to use and has to be scraped off the bowl. Even mixing in small quantities doesn't totally prevent this but significantly minimizes it.
Here is a link to the building of our own hajj muftau where cement screeding was done:
https://www.nairaland.com/4453773/painting-pictures-hajji-mufutaus-kobo-kobo

I assume this should remove doubt about the feasibility of cement screeding for internal and external screeding.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:28pm On Apr 17, 2018
bixton:


6tyre falls between 10 -15 tons depending on bucket size and sand loading.
Dredging sand in my area in the lay man's terms does not really have "teeth".
So depending on your location and cost implication, some of us use "diving sand"(local mining).



Thanks alot

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 12:28pm On Apr 17, 2018
gbadexy:
We did discuss on this thread the advantages of cement screeding over the regular pop cement and paint screeding.
I was of the opinion cement screeding is better but not used much because of its slower drying and setting, hence why contractors that want to hurriedly leave one site for other jobs don't favor it.
like I mentioned then, it's stronger, smoother and the slow setting ensures there is no wastage of materials.
In gypsum screeding, after 10 to 15 minutes, the paste becomes too stiff to use and has to be scraped off the bowl. Even mixing in small quantities doesn't totally prevent this but significantly minimizes it.
Here is a link to the building of our own hajj muftau where cement screeding was done:
https://www.nairaland.com/4453773/painting-pictures-hajji-mufutaus-kobo-kobo

I assume this should remove doubt about the feasibility of cement screeding for internal and external screeding.


If I may ask, how is the cement mixing done
Is it just cement alone and what's the price per Sqm?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:33pm On Apr 17, 2018
bixton:



If I may ask, how is the cement mixing done
Is it just cement alone and what's the price per Sqm?
The pop powder is replaced with portland cement to be used to mix the pop emulsion paint to form a paste.
Some topbond or other brand name variety of it is best added to the paint to reduce the risk of cracking. like 1litre of the bond to 1 drum of pop emulsion paint.
While acrylic based paint is the best type of paint in all type of paints, experience has shown that addition of some pva based topbond type binders helps to minimize possibility of cracking due to it slowing down the drying rate of the screeding plaster on the wall after application.
Cracking is caused when the plaster doesn't have time to shrink uniformly due to drying. The top dries faster than the under. but adding top bond slows it to allow more uniform drying due to its alcohol content which has affinity for water.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 1:38pm On Apr 17, 2018
rotecch77:
@cypost,
We can handle the project for you and our charges are friendly.

https://www.nairaland.com/3851900/general-finishings-5bdrs-luxury-duplex/8#62692802

https://www.nairaland.com/3155183/special-project-special-man-hajj/17#60565264

https://www.nairaland.com/2633699/re-modeling-7bedroom-old-house-ogun

Some of our project.

08066619493
Rotech77@yahoo.co.uk
Sir which should come first between washhand basin, wc fixtures & tiles?
Thank u.

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