dubylhover:


Despite the fact that kroos had a hand in Sweden goal and misplaced a few passes doesn't mean he didn't try enough from open play... I think towards the last 15 minutes, he started giving more adventurous passes, both the change of playing he switched to reus which he miscued and that golden pass to Gomez which he just had to direct his header,but no, he headed it straight at Olsen...even when they were pressing for the winner, there were many times kroos increased the tempo of his passing for a quick 1 2,but his teammates would dull the attack.. I was even angry with gundogan, his drive that he's known for was not seen, he was just playing safe and giving normal side passes...
I think it's time loew finds a way to start Brandt,draxler should be dropped from the starting lineup..

Since I started supporting Germany 2002,this is the most unbalanced team they have produced at a major tournament,no shield for the defense at all, the fullbacks just attack without caution thereby exposing the defense... Loew should find a player to strike that balance and shield that defense.. They really miss schweinsteiger

Like you said he only started being creative with the game almost up. He did very little in the first 60 mins of the game, it took the mobility of guys like Werner and Reus to unlock Sweden for the first goal.

Gundogan did precious little and ironically Julian Brandt who came on in the 86th was more productive than he was.

The problem is Loew is playing favorites! His favorites are letting him down and it has turned his tactics and formation upside down. Why are the fullbacks bombing forward? Cos the likes of Oezil, Draxler and Mueller are not doing their jobs! The question now is how does he bench all 3 without looking stewpid? And that's not even mentioning Khedira who is supposed to shield the defense

Schweini is sorely missed. He was a big tournament player who could do it all in that midfield. A midfield General

I'm ok with Brandt off the bench but Loew shouldn't wait that late to bring him on

raumdeuter:


Lowers teams are smarter nowadays and they just keep it tight at the back and counter, It has been a similar experience for almost all top teams at this world cup

One thing is we need to keep it solid

Back 4
we need a DM, And I hope Rudys broken nose heals fast. In front of Rudy we have Gundogan Kroos or Goretzka

In attack Werner cannot play as a 9 yet, he needs to play off a big man like Gomez or Lewandoski like he does at Leipzig where he plays off Poulsen or Augustin

Draxler needs to retire but I dunno why Low loves him

Back 4
Rudy
Kroos Gundogan/Goretzka
Reus--Werner
-----Gomez

Is Gundogan disciplined enough to play DM? I'd take my chances with Rudy. I doubt Goretzka would start barring injuries

I wasn't impressed by Gomez so I probably wouldn't start him. He needs chances put on a plate for him and there's no guarantee he would score them as he showed yesterday

I'd still go with a front 3 of Reus-Mueller-Werner. All 3 interchangeable during the course of the match.

I'd also consider a Gundogan-Kroos-Rudy midfield with Gundogan and Rudy forming the double pivot. Kroos's lazy passes are less liable to hurt the team from the #10 position

I also really liked Kroos's post match comments. This is how pissed off he should be for the rest of the tournament and he should play with fire in his belly. Whether we like it or not he is the only untouchable in that German midfield

A40:

Like you said he only started being creative with the game almost up. He did very little in the first 60 mins of the game, it took the mobility of guys like Werner and Reus to unlock Sweden for the first goal.

Gundogan did precious little and ironically Julian Brandt who came on in the 86th was more productive than he was.

The problem is Loew is playing favorites! His favorites are letting him down and it has turned his tactics and formation upside down. Why are the fullbacks bombing forward? Cos the likes of Oezil, Draxler and Mueller are not doing their jobs! The question now is how does he bench all 3 without looking stewpid? And that's not even mentioning Khedira who is supposed to shield the defense

Schweini is sorely missed. He was a big tournament player who could do it all in that midfield. A midfield General

I'm ok with Brandt off the bench but Loew shouldn't wait that late to bring him on

You're quite right, one has to feel for loew,cos the trio of ozil Muller and draxler have been useless this World Cup... Mullers woes started from euros, if loew cant find a formation where Muller is closer to the box, then it's useless playing him on d flanks cos he can't do shoot there... Gundogan disappointed me yesterday, was too casual.. But this Germany are not playing like a team that can even reach the semis... I hope Loew does something fast...
The absence of bastain can't b overemphasized

A40:

Is Gundogan disciplined enough to play DM? I'd take my chances with Rudy. I doubt Goretzka would start barring injuries

I wasn't impressed by Gomez so I probably wouldn't start him. He needs chances put on a plate for him and there's no guarantee he would score them as he showed yesterday

I'd still go with a front 3 of Reus-Mueller-Werner. All 3 interchangeable during the course of the match.

I'd also consider a Gundogan-Kroos-Rudy midfield with Gundogan and Rudy forming the double pivot. Kroos's lazy passes are less liable to hurt the team from the #10 position

I wont play Gndogan as DM, He needs a real DM behind him like Rudy, Khedira should have been the guy but his headless chicken runs and him thinking he is a play maker is the problem. For me Rudy Kroos is a must n+ an additional CM either Gundogan or Goretzka

The only reason I will play Gomez is because its South Korea and his physicality might be useful against the Asians. Muller on the wings is not effective as he cannot whipe a cross so he has to be behind the striker ot just sit on the bench. Werners pace can be useful. He reminds me of a younger Suarez without the cannibalism, And even Suarez plays off a bigger striker till he was mature

A40:
I also really liked Kroos's post match comments. This is how pissed off he should be for the rest of the tournament and he should play with fire in his belly. Whether we like it or not he is the only untouchable in that German midfield

Kroos is typically lazy or lackadaisical and in Madrid he has workhorses like Modric and Casemiro slaving for him

A40:
He needs to cut it out though. That foul was completely unnecessary

Low should play 2 CMs and not depend on his CBs to carry the ball forward. Most times German players are all in the opponent box or around and waiting for the CBs to do the ball moving into attack. In the course of play you will then see Boateng so far forward into the opponents half. That should be the job of CM

Lol England and Belgium are now World Cup favorites

Jeez is this the Panama that kept USA out of the World Cup? This is a crying disgrace

dubylhover:


You're quite right, one has to feel for loew,cos the trio of ozil Muller and draxler have been useless this World Cup... Mullers woes started from euros, if loew cant find a formation where Muller is closer to the box, then it's useless playing him on d flanks cos he can't do shoot there... Gundogan disappointed me yesterday, was too casual.. But this Germany are not playing like a team that can even reach the semis... I hope Loew does something fast...
The absence of bastain can't b overemphasized

Na him go price bad market because I don't see how anyone who watched Khedira, Oezil and Draxler during the season would make them bonafide starters. I see the need to rely on guys with experience in the World Cup but you can't get away with starting 4-5 players who are bang off form against any decent side.

This Sweden beat France and knocked out Italy in qualifying so to be fair it's a very difficult group, aside Group D no other group is as tough as this one. Maybe the boys were a tad overconfident. For me it's one round at a time. Every game from here on is a Final so there's no point thinking about semis

raumdeuter:


Low should play 2 CMs and not depend on his CBs to carry the ball forward. Most times German players are all in the opponent box or around and waiting for the CBs to do the ball moving into attack. In the course of play you will then see Boateng so far forward into the opponents half. That should be the job of CM

I think we have to also consider the opposition who choose to sit back and not come forward. Though this has to be done in moderation

Some of the spaces left behind was just suicidal. However both know why the CMs are not carrying the ball forward. The most dominant CM is a sideways pass merchant.

Maybe a full back or the DM stays behind when the two CBs are advancing

raumdeuter:


Kroos is typically lazy or lackadaisical and in Madrid he has workhorses like Modric and Casemiro slaving for him

Well he had 128 passes yesterday. Since there is no alternative na to find German Modric and Casemiro to surround am

A40:
I think we have to also consider the opposition who choose to sit back and not come forward. Though this has to be done in moderation

Some of the spaces left behind was just suicidal. However both know why the CMs are not carrying the ball forward. The most dominant CM is a sideways pass merchant.

Maybe a full back or the DM stays behind when the two CBs are advancing


Well he had 128 passes yesterday. Since there is no alternative na to find German Modric and Casemiro to surround am

Rudy will have to do the Casemiro impersonation and Gudogan/Goretzka be the Modric

Thats what every small teamis doing now, sit back and counter, If you remember how energy sapping the Algerian and Ghanaian game was at the last world cup

raumdeuter:


I wont play Gndogan as DM, He needs a real DM behind him like Rudy, Khedira should have been the guy but his headless chicken runs and him thinking he is a play maker is the problem. For me Rudy Kroos is a must n+ an additional CM either Gundogan or Goretzka

The only reason I will play Gomez is because its South Korea and his physicality might be useful against the Asians. Muller on the wings is not effective as he cannot whipe a cross so he has to be behind the striker ot just sit on the bench. Werners pace can be useful. He reminds me of a younger Suarez without the cannibalism, And even Suarez plays off a bigger striker till he was mature

I think you can get away with playing without a traditional DM against Korea. Prime Khedira was a beast and better than Gundogan or Goretzka in NT colors but that Khedira is dead and gone.

Tough to see Loew going to Goretzka barring injuries.

If I would start Gomez it would be because of his smart link up play and intelligent movement in the box and not necessarily his physicality. Those Koreans no need isan. Mueller can interchange with the likes of Reus and Werner so his playing on the wing might not be a death blow

A40:

I think you can get away with playing without a traditional DM against Korea. Prime Khedira was a beast and better than Gundogan or Goretzka in NT colors but that Khedira is dead and gone.

Tough to see Loew going to Goretzka barring injuries.

If I would start Gomez it would be because of his smart link up play and intelligent movement in the box and not necessarily his physicality. Those Koreans no need isan. Mueller can interchange with the likes of Reus and Werner so his playing on the wing might not be a death blow

Muller Reus and Werner all play better when there is a target man to engage the defence, vs Bigger teams I wont start Gomez but vs Korea I think we need to start a Gomez. Thats why France sef dey start Giroud just to take attention off Griezman and MBappe

Khedira has always been a headless chicken but he had Schweinsteiger who stayed behind to mop up. Kroos is not close to Schweinsteiger in defensive abilities

That underscores how important Schweini was for the past 2 world cups

We can get away with no DM vs Korea but I no wan experience the heart attack of pacey break away vs Hummels, Sule or Rudiger with Kroos jugging leisurely back, We have had enough of that in this tournament. I will rather be safe

raumdeuter:


Muller Reus and Werner all play better when there is a target man to engage the defence, vs Bigger teams I wont start Gomez but vs Korea I think we need to start a Gomez. Thats why France sef dey start Giroud just to take attention off Griezman and MBappe

Khedira has always been a headless chicken but he had Schweinsteiger who stayed behind to mop up. Kroos is not close to Schweinsteiger in defensive abilities

That underscores how important Schweini was for the past 2 world cups

We can get away with no DM vs Korea but I no wan experience the heart attack of pacey break away vs Hummels, Sule or Rudiger with Kroos jugging leisurely back, We have had enough of that in this tournament. I will rather be safe

WE Are you now German

chic2pimp:
Hahaha I knew Airmark would have a field day here. I have to admit Boateng had an average game by His standard today. Having said that, He remains Germany's best Centre Back as was evident during His time on the pitch today.

The Germans are simply going through what all the Big Boys are experiencing. It's hard to crack a well drilled, organised and disciplined wall of 10 players.The only one team that has done well thus far is Belgium and that's simply because their 2 games were against Panama and a Tunisian team that had no choice than to attack.

I have said it times without number, Germany have average CBs. He is a good ball-playing defender, he is average while defending and he knows it.

No defender can deceive me with spraying long passes and defend like a camel. I pray United sign him for next season.

Okocha : ”Boateng, today, was one of those players that was trying to overplay. He is a defender, his first job is to defend.

”Today, he was always out of position, and left Rüdiger to deal with everything that the Swedish attack threw at them, so I was disappointed with his performance today and he capped it all with a red card.

”He was struggling to get himself in a good position and there was no need for that tackle. If you stand in the right position, you don’t need to get into tackles like that.”


I'm not Okocha, but at least you guys will respect Okocha's view, which is in tandem with my view on Boathand. His positioning has always been horrible. Below was what i told you about that Boathand's poor positioning that led to Bayern's ouster penultimate season against Real madrid. I deserve some accolades.

airmark:


This is a lie. Pique is 30 and ramos is 31, how old is boathand? 28 years. So i dont understand why you typed that line, also when Ramos never played under pep like boathand did. No sane manager would see how Boathand crashed his team out of ucl with his poor positioning and poor defending against madrid and wouldnt ship him out immediately. Conte will not watch rostov, real madrid, atl. madrid and other matches where boathand committed basic defensive blunders and wants to inject him into his defence. Boathand was consistently committing these blunders over the years. Also, Sule was bought to replace boathand, bayern president had told boathand bluntly last year, his blunders couldnt be endured further. January came, sule was signed. Thats why boathand is fighting hard to rescue his drowning career, asking bayern questions to assure him of his future. All those real and chelsea rumours are just rumours. Chelsea can only sign him as a training material for our strikers at a beat down fee.

airmark:


Let's first start from where he may be coming from. Hummels is the only one guaranteed of starting among the defenders. Do you think ancelotti will not prefer sulemana to boathand? He has seen it clearly. Though i dont believe zidane will buy a defender marcelo sodomised and performed poorly in both legs. Alago cant bench nacho, ramos or varane. Not when they are fit. Come to barcelona, umtiti is not as calamitous as boathand and tested in the league, so he cant bench him. Pique will only be benched for boathand if the mumu has spanish passport. Chelsea is going for van dijk who i had said many times, is head and shoulder above alago as a cb. Luiz has improved in positioning and superb in aerial balls. We all know boathand is wack in those aspects and cant keep up. Midgets like aguero outjumps him. In the present team he cant bench even ake. Man utd is not a big club anymore though, yet bailey and jones when fit , will ensure boathand sits on the bench. He wont even dislodge kocielny and holding at arsenal. Boathand's next destination should be china, dubai or move to jigga's team. This season has shown to the world how useless he is. Neuer will be the happiest, when he finally leaves. He cursed him here:

airmark:


I have said it times without number, Germany have average CBs. He is a good ball-playing defender, he is average while defending and he knows it.

Of German CBs Hummels happen to be the worst and Boateng the best

raumdeuter:


Of German CBs Hummels happen to be the worst and Boateng the best

You mean Sule and Rudiger are better than Hummels?
Much wow.

Unlimited22:

You mean Sule and Rudiger are better than Hummels?
Much wow.

The only thing Hummels have over them is experience

Sule is better and Rudiger while not much of a play maker is faster and doesn't gamble.

airmark:


I have said it times without number, Germany have average CBs. He is a good ball-playing defender, he is average while defending and he knows it.

No defender can deceive me with spraying long passes and defend like a camel. I pray United sign him for next season.

Okocha : ”Boateng, today, was one of those players that was trying to overplay. He is a defender, his first job is to defend.

”Today, he was always out of position, and left Rüdiger to deal with everything that the Swedish attack threw at them, so I was disappointed with his performance today and he capped it all with a red card.

”He was struggling to get himself in a good position and there was no need for that tackle. If you stand in the right position, you don’t need to get into tackles like that.”


I'm not Okocha, but at least you guys will respect Okocha's view, which is in tandem with my view on Boathand. His positioning has always been horrible. Below was what i told you about that Boathand's poor positioning that led to Bayern's ouster penultimate season against Real madrid. I deserve some accolades.

He still is one of the world's best though. One bad game does not undo the many good games he has played. I no say you no go like Boateng even if He wins World's Best Player tomorrow

raumdeuter:


Of German CBs Hummels happen to be the worst and Boateng the best

Argue with Bundesliga

airmark:


Argue with Bundesliga

Boateng German player of the year 2016, CL winner, Best central defender at the Euros

Tell us about Hummels

or better still tell us about the disgraced escort you called best DM in the world

chic2pimp:





He still is one of the world's best though. One bad game does not undo the many good games he has played. I no say you no go like Boateng even if He wins World's Best Player tomorrow

That's your opinion. Those that know football more than you, know he is a time bomb. That's why Fifa never put him in best XI of any year or World cup best XI, unlike other star players he won laurels with in Bayern and German national team.

He is a disgrace to Germany. Manchester united legends will physically attack Mou, if he tries to bring him to Manchester.

Boathand wins world best player award? I will run to the nearest mall nak..ed.

raumdeuter:


Boateng German player of the year 2016, CL winner, Best central defender at the Euros

Tell us about Hummels

or better still tell us about the disgraced escort you called best DM in the world

See Hummels watching one of his disgraceful actions here.

airmark:


See Hummels watching one of his disgraceful actions here.

The way Hummels was watching while Boateng won the German footballer of the year won the CL while hummels was looking

raumdeuter:


They were caught on counters vs. Ghana, especially vs. Algeria a lot

Who were the CBs? Boathand must be there and Hummels absent again, right?.

airmark:


Who were the CBs? Boathand must be there and Hummels absent again, right?.

Which they didn't lose unlike the gamevs. Mexico where hummels was spinning and Germany lost

Luiz has improved so much he is at home biting his nails while Boateng is at his 3rd world cup.

Airmark na real comedian walahi

raumdeuter:


Which they didn't lose unlike the gamevs. Mexico where hummels was spinning and Germany lost

They didn't lose but all Germans lamented how they missed Hummels in that match and prayed for his return. He returned with a bang.

A40:
Luiz has improved so much he is at home biting his nails while Boateng is at his 3rd world cup.

Airmark na real comedian walahi

You are the comedian here. You wack at it.

airmark:


That's your opinion. Those that know football more than you, know he is a time bomb. That's why Fifa never put him in best XI of any year or World cup best XI, unlike other star players he won laurels with in Bayern and German national team.

He is a disgrace to Germany. Manchester united legends will physically attack Mou, if he tries to bring him to Manchester.

Boathand wins world best player award? I will run to the nearest mall nak..ed.

The Greatest manager in the history of your rubbish EPL voted him in the Euro Team of the the Tournament

A disgrace to Germany that won CL and World Cup. I wonder what we would call Luiz that captained Brazil to 7-1

airmark:


You are the comedian here. You wack at it.

Otondo when was the last time Luiz played for the Selecao? As if he had not been on exile before then. If he was important he would have been called like Loew called Neuer despite being out for 9 months

A40:
The Greatest manager in the history of your rubbish EPL voted him in the Euro Team of the the Tournament

A disgrace to Germany that won CL and World Cup. I wonder what we would call Luiz that captained Brazil to 7-1

Read below. The kind of debacle carried out by Boathand, was second to none in the history of World cup. I didn't write it.