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Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 4:18pm On Apr 15, 2011
• All atheists are a subset of a school of thought called skeptics. I have a pun to forward to atheists here and sundry:

"What can be believed with skepticism can be dismissed with (or without) skepticism"
- Uyi Iredia
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 4:19pm On Apr 15, 2011
• The problem I find with atheist satirical pieces is how they make jest of other letdowns and play dead to their multiple inadequacies.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 4:21pm On Apr 15, 2011
• The source of infinity is a plurality which attained singularity. The problem is that infinity, plurality and singularity can (and must) all be defined in terms of space, but they are not space, they are ideas.

- I define Plurality as a 'not' (non-contradiction/time)
- I define Infinity as an 'being' (excluded middle/continuum)
- I define Singularity as an 'is' (identity/space)

ergo (from my definitions), it is made evident that plurality and singularity coexist in infinity. Or put in another format, space and time coexist as a (thought) continuum.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:23pm On Apr 15, 2011
• The presence of matter can never account for information any less than a dog is a pet for some (whites) and a food for others (Calabar people)
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:25pm On Apr 15, 2011
• The next time an atheist or a scientist (I do not care for his religion or irreligion) tells me that science is based on falsifiability; I will personally reprimand such a person witn a biting remark. 

Falsifiability is but part of a whole. The whole being the logical principles that foreshadow science. There are two critical parts of such principles (which Karl Popper - I suppose - dwelt on). They are:

- the principle of falsifiability 
- the principle of verifiability

When you are sure that your hypothesis for a phenomenon is concrete and idyllic. You open it up to falsifiability. It's like drawing the plan of a house and putting it to the test of (real-world) experimentation. You allow others perform experiments that are antagonistic to your hypothesis. 

When you feel that your hypothesis is unfounded and incomplete. You open it up to verifiability. It's like having a set of bricks and gathering other materials (including more bricks)
to build a house.  You perform experiments and mark those that tally with your own hypothesis. 

As should be noted by now (to a keen observer) both verifiability and falsifiability are different; yet, they can (and are often) mistaken as the same thing - falsifiability
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 10:51am On Apr 18, 2011
Uyi Iredia:


As should be noted by now (to a keen observer) both verifiability and falsifiability are different; yet, they can (and are often) mistaken as the same thing - falsifiability

Noted
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 10:50am On Apr 20, 2011
• Common-sense skepticism is sorely rare. I conclude such because people that are smart at asking questions are rare ? 
The problem is this: People assume their answer is the only correct one, and disguise their answers as questions ? 
This is the logical fallacy of the so-called 'New Atheist' movement.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 10:51am On Apr 20, 2011
• Is skepticism a falsifiable position ? Looking at it analytically, I ask myself (and to all and sundry), Is skepticism 
an abstract term or a concrete term ? Has someone ever proven an abstract ?
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 10:52am On Apr 20, 2011
• Who is God ? Nobody 
    How is God ? Anyhow
    What is God ? Everybody
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 4:33pm On Apr 21, 2011
• A new definition of terms to familiarize science with religion
spirit = capacity for intelligence
soul = induction of intelligence
body = resistance to intelligence

Mr Seth (of The Thinking Atheist podcast) can u explain how some guy that lived over 5 billion years ago knew this. 

motion = transisting of intelligence

like a transistor.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 4:36pm On Apr 21, 2011
• Prove to me you have an idea without any form of material expression and you have disproved God's existence. Why do atheists follow David Hume (an ironic name) and assume that all we experience daily are nought but material impressions
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:16pm On Apr 21, 2011
• If the atheists ideal world materializes. I surmise that all churches will be turned to industrial centers (or some other purpose that can easily be explained in terms of science) 

[churches = religious/irreligious centers]

The thinking atheist should see this as physical manifestation of the fact that Science and Religion are the same thing

N.B: Mr Seth, if you are reading this, I hope you understand the fact that saying God does not exist is as dumb as saying, your mind does not exist
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:09pm On May 07, 2011
• There are two types of infinity: positive infinity and negative infinity. This much I know from the number line. Do you agree that negative infinity tends/equates to oblivion whilst, positive infinity tends to eternity ?
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:10pm On May 07, 2011
• God is the most odd (absolutely absurd) being you'll ever find in the universe. He evens out all odds. Think about it: Is the number, 'greater than', even or odd ?
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:11pm On May 07, 2011
• Every paradox that applies to Gen 1-3 applies to the neo-Darwinian model of evolution mutatis mutandis.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:12pm On May 07, 2011
• God is the most odd (absolutely absurd) being you'll ever find in the universe. He evens out all odds. Think about it: Is the number, 'greater than', even or odd ?

CAVEAT: If u argue by saying 'greater than' is not a number. Please forward the greatest number in the (still-expanding) universe.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:13pm On May 07, 2011
• How do skeptics expect science to find God out when there is an infinite-large and infinitesimal body of knowledge that has been extracted, is still being extracted, and to be extracted from Nature ? What given time-frame will it take to find God out ? Forever, or never, perhaps ?!
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by UyiIredia(m): 5:13pm On May 07, 2011
• If I were to believe that Oblivion awaits me after death, why must I scoff at people who believe in Eternity after death ? To be candid, the idea of death being likened to forgetfulness annoys me. It annoys me because everyday I sleep and I remember to wake up. It doesn't make sense to me that I sleep and forever forget to wake up. It only tells me that life, as it were, and all its vistas, are illusions that our brains delude us with.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jun 24, 2011
keep an eye out for Christian-Atheists wink bet you never saw that coming
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 3:49am On Jun 25, 2011
hmm, quite some reflection there but wat i like is since extraction from nature is ongoing, waiting to know GOD after such extraction is complete might never come in the life of each one of us, so i just believe God exist NOW & wait for the extraction to complete, hope i will be alive THEN!
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 8:38am On Jul 02, 2011
Uyi give us update of such tots. i think dis r d type of reasoning atheist understand Uyi give us update of such tots. i think dis r d type of reasoning atheist understand
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by 5solas(m): 7:38pm On Jul 02, 2011
I am challenged, more please.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by harakiri(m): 5:42am On Jul 03, 2011
Once upon a time, i previously thought the poster was an unbiased,unsentimental intelligent young man. Oh well. . .
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 6:23am On Jul 03, 2011
harakiri:

Once upon a time, i previously thought
HI not 2 derail d topic but since this is tot provokin thread, do you mean Once In Time u were baised 2 THINK him intelligent etc. witout ALL d info about him available?
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 6:28am On Jul 03, 2011
hara kiri, it could also mean that you may still be bias that is why you said "oh well"
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by harakiri(m): 11:10am On Jul 03, 2011
@unphilaz. . . First of all, i have studied UYI IREDIA'S posts way back (without posting most of the time) and at the time, he had an unbiased neutral stance. This thread targets Non religious people/Atheists and i am one. I have no issues with religious people (coz i used to be religious years ago) but where a problem comes is when religious people attempt to impose their opinions on me. Most Atheists today are people who used to be deeply religious and in their quest for indepth understanding of what they worshipped, all they saw was shallowness,deciet,lies and centuries of mass mind manipulation. I used to be an ardent christian and fellowship leader. . . I dare anyone who claims to be a christian to show concrete proof that the christian god exists WITHOUT sentiments,beating about the bush,referring to a so called "holy bible" that was endorsed by a pagan king (king james) and keep out the mantra they are brainwashed with on a sunday to sunday basis. Show proof that of a REAL encounter with him/her/them/it. All you people know is what you have been brainwashed with from childhood. I opened a thread on two forums concerning this over a year ago and till today, NO ONE has been able to give a straight forward answer except insults,sentiments and derailing remarks. You all talk as if you know this god personally with little or zero knowledge of the origin of christianity (go to goggle and type "DOES THE CHRISTIAN GOD REALLY EXIST?"wink. Its an old thread i opened on nairaland and a rival forum. If the white enslavers hadn't brought christianity, who would be talking? The first black man to translate the bible was a SLAVE! So much for the "godly" religion. You all can believe what you choose to but if you think you can talk crap about non believers, then i'll take the pains in showing you are nothing but brainwashed-deluded-enslaved-lemming-zombies! The difference between Atheists and believers is our DISBELIEF in religion. We have nothing to prove to you but can you explain how a virgin mary got pregnant? RETARDS! !
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 6:48pm On Jul 03, 2011
Hi thanks 4 a long shout i understand but as u have shown its all BAISED based on your perception of what i believ but come 2 think of it, is it not the SAME white man u claim is manipulatin u b4 dat has manipulated u stil 2 believe u were deceived by d 1st white man if u really were. think again!
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by harakiri(m): 9:04pm On Jul 03, 2011
@unphilaz. . . You obviously aren't very bright. Twisting my comments out of context doesn't cut it. How can i be "biased" when i have no stake in religion? Do you even know what the word BIASED means? Please use google or wikipedia or your dictionary and see if my stance corresponds with the definition. This is why i lost interest in nairaland. So many reetarded dullards have infected the sections.
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 9:20pm On Jul 03, 2011
hmm nice worked up there. u really Understand wat i mean. let me put it in another way - you are more sympathetic to the atheistic ideology against theist. but question is it not d same white man Who has also manipulated u NOW as well as when you were a church leader? hence my use of baised?
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by harakiri(m): 11:04pm On Jul 03, 2011
@unphilaz. . . Since it's a monumental uphill task for you to grasp, i'll spell it out for you : I LOST FAITH IN RELIGION WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS ALL A FARCE AND RELIGION CAN'T PROVE ITSELF! Kapish? Do you need a language translator? How can you say the white man "manipulated" me when i can use my functional brain to analyse the holes in religion? Unlike you, a lot of folks have a MIND of their own and don't depend on others to take decisions. Where you able to understand what i just said or do i have to re-type in pidgin? Pathetic beings! ! !
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by unphilaz(m): 4:16am On Jul 04, 2011
harr dats nice 2 know dat You Lost FAITH in religion to Gain FAITH in another? isnt it so? now correct me did u simply wake up witout prior exposition to d holes in religion or Some1 presented U some 'guide' to such holes in religion that you finally DECIDED it had holes? J
Re: Challenging The Skeptics by harakiri(m): 6:44am On Jul 04, 2011
@unphilaz. . . I bother replying only because some gullible ppl who might think you are making a meaningful discussion and i appeal to the readers to please, tell this BLOCK HEAD called "unphilaz" to read and understand before coming here to display how big a dunce he really is! How many times i tell you i have NO RELIGION? How many times must i explain that Atheists have NOTHING to prove coz we have no stake in religion? Please, look up the words "RELIGION" and "ATHEISM" and tell me if they tally. Simply put, ATHEISM IS THE DISBELIEF IN RELIGION! Are you so thick skulled? How does a disbelief in religion transform into "faith" in another? Are you this reetarded?

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