mindtricks:


See where the issue lies:

“That he has not made any arrangement because he has not tested anyone positive in Kogi is not something a serious government should make as a pronouncement. It is very appalling and a totally embarrassing statement”

Is this categorically saying there are no physical testing centres or that no one has tested positive in the centre? Surely, hoping he gets a positive test is not a good thing nau.

kikero:
Hmm

I'm going to defend Yahaya bello for once...so here we go

1.An app might be very useful to help diagnosis. Fact is, covid19 presents with several types of known symptoms, so using the app might help.

2.Where the problems arise is, firstly, how many people in Kogi have access to an android phone? Am sure the rural areas don't have enough android phones too

2.Secondly, the basis behind the app is that someone who uses it and finds out he or she is positive....the next thing is to report to NCDC. Setting aside the fact that provisions for reaching an approved center may not be enough, the problem is, someone who may be positive would not report...stigma, and not willing to be isolated.

3.Finally, even if the app ticks you off as covid19 sufferer....you might not be. Fever, cough and breathlessness can be seen in a variety of respiratory tract infections. Only way to know is by testing for sure.

Having said that, the app is a good idea...especially as the people most affected for now are the educated elite who are most likely to have internet connections and android phones.

And the illiterates in the villages will be able to access it since your Governor claimed the App is for everybody. So the app will replace NCDC or it will convey messages to NCDC? Putting square pegs in round holes. I am sure that when the real covidd19 hit his state he will bereft of ideas

Agboriotejoye:

Did you watch the interview? He said the app will help you know if you have the virus. He never said anything about qualify for testing. Besides, how exactly will the app let you know if you qualify for testing when one can be asymptomatic?

No video attached to the thread. Below is the words of the governor according to the OP, which I made judgment from.

According to the governor “So far, we have established about three isolation centres in the state. As God would have it, we have not recorded any issue. What we did was to develop an app that we launched and ensured that all citizens in Kogi State have access to that particular app.

“We carry out serious sensitisation and whoever is exhibiting any symptom, if you just simply log on to that app and follow the simple instruction, you will know whether you should come for any test or make any adverse report.

Answering your question concerning people being asymptomatic, the app will definetly tell you if u also qualify to test.
How?
Nigeria is not carrying out mass testing because of lack of test kits. The only asymptomatic people who get tested are those who had contacts with infected individuals which I believe the app shoukd be smart enough to put into consideration

You should see my reaction during the embarrassing interview on channels.

sisisioge:


It's still the same thing...people without symptoms will 95% of the time not bother to get tested. The app is for those with symptoms. The aim of the app will be to help you highlight the difference between the common cold and covid-19 by asking the right questions. This is like saying why create an online banking app when its better to go to the bank. Think about it.

Get informed. There's something called contact tracing which is done to reach those who might have come in contact with a known case. Such an individual if asymptomatic will be placed under close watch and eventually take the test. How will the app solve that.
For those with symptoms, how will the app differentiate between common cold and coronavirus or even malaria? You still haven't explained that part?

The APP would stil be based on complete history and physical examination just like other medical apps
These apps could only give you a clue and they ain’t as reliable as you think...they are subject to many conditions depending on individual complaint...proper diagnostic test still seems more efficient and reliable..
Which is not

kikero:
Hmm

I'm going to defend Yahaya bello for once...so here we go

1.An app might be very useful to help diagnosis. Fact is, covid19 presents with several types of known symptoms, so using the app might help.

2.Where the problems arise is, firstly, how many people in Kogi have access to an android phone? Am sure the rural areas don't have enough android phones too

2.Secondly, the basis behind the app is that someone who uses it and finds out he or she is positive....the next thing is to report to NCDC. Setting aside the fact that provisions for reaching an approved center may not be enough, the problem is, someone who may be positive would not report...stigma, and not willing to be isolated.

3.Finally, even if the app ticks you off as covid19 sufferer....you might not be. Fever, cough and breathlessness can be seen in a variety of respiratory tract infections. Only way to know is by testing for sure.

Having said that, the app is a good idea...especially as the people most affected for now are the educated elite who are most likely to have internet connections and android phones.

drlaykay:


No video attached to the thread. Below is the words of the governor according to the OP, which I made judgment from.


Answering your question concerning people being asymptomatic, the app will definetly tell you if u also qualify to test.
How?
Nigeria is not carrying out mass testing because of lack of test kits. The only symptomatic people who get tested are those who had contacts with infected individuals which I believe the app shoukd be smart enough to put into consideration

Bro, I see Dr on your moniker. You really believe an app not approved by NCDC should replace self-isolation and calling NCDC hotline as directed by NCDC?
You really believe an app can replace a doctor? I watched the interview. What he seemed to imply is that an app can tell you if you may be positive or not. With all the info out there, do you really think you need an app to tell you that esp in a low literacy and high poverty state like kogi?
Will you advise Lagos with more people to replace there door-to-door testing program currently on with that app since more lagisians are educated and have access to internet?

Judolisco:
see dis babe sha nobody for kogi state get d app only the governor

Don't mind her, I'm currently in Kogi and I've never heard or seen anyone with this wonder app.

sisisioge:


Is this categorically saying there are no physical testing centres or that no one has tested positive in the centre? Surely, hoping he gets a positive test is not a good thing nau.

There are no testing centres in kogi. That's what Bello said the app replaces.

Corrinthians:
How is Yahaya Bello a Youth?

Am I missing something here

Iti komkom, you're missing everything

The funny thing about this "yamaha bellow" and his kind is that if it happens that covid-19 somehow comes to the end, he will quickly do a press release claiming to have spent billions of naira in the fight against covid-19....

App App App...can we even see the picture of the Kogi App sef? Hope it's not audio App?

Agboriotejoye:

Bro, I see Dr on your moniker. You really believe an app not approved by NCDC should replace self-isolation and calling NCDC hotline as directed by NCDC?
You really believe an app can replace a doctor? I watched the interview. What he seemed to imply is that an app can tell you if you may be positive or not. With all the info out there, do you really think you need an app to tell you that esp in a low literacy and high poverty state like kogi?
Will you advise Lagos with more people to replace there door-to-door testing program currently on with that app since more lagisians are educated and have access to internet?

Na who we offend for this kogi state self? Make the person forgive us abeg because we can not take this anymore. Anybody wey the do us should fear God and leave us alone, haba mana......

Agboriotejoye:

Get informed. There's something called contact tracing which is done to reach those who might have come in contact with a known case. Such an individual if asymptomatic will be placed under close watch and eventually take the test. How will the app solve that.
For those with symptoms, how will the app differentiate between common cold and coronavirus or even malaria? You still haven't explained that part?

Let me drop this last bit and bade you a good morning.

If contact tracing were an absolute efficient reality in Nigeria or the world at large, we wouldn't be where we are today. Remember how most of the occupants of the same plane that landed vector 1 practically got lost for weeks on end? Those are people on a flight manifest o let alone the web of off record human contacts.

For instance, abokiii asymptomatic yam seller came to ask your neighbour if he would buy yam. Neighbor didn't, no one did. But on his way out, he touch your gate which dear neighbour didn't touch but you did...how will they track contact there? May God help us. Keep keeping safe.

Ghostmode2two:


And the illiterates in the villages will be able to access it since your Governor claimed the App is for everybody. So the app will replace NCDC or it will convey messages to NCDC? Putting square pegs in round holes. I am sure that when the real covidd19 hit his state he will bereft of ideas

Which is covered in my number 2, and am not from Kogi state either.

Agboriotejoye:

There are no testing centres in kogi. That's what Bello said the app replaces.

That's not true...he has three isolation centres and said the app pretest will inform people on whether or not to come for testing. Please read the article again. Cheers.

kikero:


Which is covered in my number 2, and am not from Kogi state either.

OK. The fact remains that these politicians are playing games with covid19 maybe they don't know how serious this pandemic is. See what is happening in Kano State. The governor there is doing serious cover up

Agboriotejoye:

Bro, I see Dr on your moniker. You really believe an app not approved by NCDC should replace self-isolation and calling NCDC hotline as directed by NCDC?
You really believe an app can replace a doctor? I watched the interview. What he seemed to imply is that an app can tell you if you may be positive or not. With all the info out there, do you really think you need an app to tell you that esp in a low literacy and high poverty state like kogi?
Will you advise Lagos with more people to replace there door-to-door testing program currently on with that app since more lagisians are educated and have access to internet?

You seem not to understand me
Firstly, i didn't watch the video, I'm making judgment on what the op wrote.
Secondly, an App is not replacing a doctor nor doing the test.

There's an algorithm you follow to know who needs testing or not.
In my hospital, before you are let in, you are asked series of questions based on this algorithm, to avoid coming in and infecting people. If you are suspected, a doctor comes outside to ask u further questions and determine if u should go for testing or not.

Infact, such app, if perfectly worked on will assist health workers. Things must not be first done in America or Europe before it's authenticated.

And do u know a lot of people don't even know when to call the hotline, it will help to know when to call and when not to.

Lastly, there's no random testing in Lagos. What we have is contact tracing.

lomprico:

Buhari picked him na, what else do u expect?

kikero:
Hmm

I'm going to defend Yahaya bello for once...so here we go

1.An app might be very useful to help diagnosis. Fact is, covid19 presents with several types of known symptoms, so using the app might help.

2.Where the problems arise is, firstly, how many people in Kogi have access to an android phone? Am sure the rural areas don't have enough android phones too

2.Secondly, the basis behind the app is that someone who uses it and finds out he or she is positive....the next thing is to report to NCDC. Setting aside the fact that provisions for reaching an approved center may not be enough, the problem is, someone who may be positive would not report...stigma, and not willing to be isolated.

3.Finally, even if the app ticks you off as covid19 sufferer....you might not be. Fever, cough and breathlessness can be seen in a variety of respiratory tract infections. Only way to know is by testing for sure.

Having said that, the app is a good idea...especially as the people most affected for now are the educated elite who are most likely to have internet connections and android phones.

I agree with you
The app is useful and i hope its user friendly and can admit more than one user info, with it we can capture person without a smart phone

drlaykay:

You seem not to understand me
Firstly, i didn't watch the video, I'm making judgment on what the op wrote.
Secondly, an App is not replacing a doctor nor doing the test.

There's an algorithm you follow to know who needs testing or not.
In my hospital, before you are let in, you are asked series of questions based on this algorithm, to avoid coming in and infecting people. If you are suspected, a doctor comes outside to ask u further questions and determine if u should go for testing or not.

Infact, such app, if perfectly worked on will assist health workers. Things must not be first done in America or Europe before it's authenticated.

Lastly, there's no random testing in Lagos. What we have is contact tracing.

Get me right. I never said having an app is wrong. But from all indications, the app was not approved by the NCDC. The series of questions you talked about must have been those supplied by NCDC. So an app doing the work of a doctor is not workable. I'm surprised I'm telling you this. An app can get data and submit to a server for proper processing. But for an app to determine who might be infected or not is just not workable. As you know, people may show some symptoms to a higher degree than others. It's a qualitative question not quantitative. No way an app can answer a qualitative question.

Lagos state said on TV they want to do door-to-door search for ppl who may be infected. I believe their targets will be areas that have more people who have tested positive. I watched sanwo-olu say it. So except you're saying he's lying, I don't know what else to think.

nairavsdollars:
How come no other state has the app?

God is just too wonderful my dear....

sisisioge:


That's not true...he has three isolation centres and said the app pretest will inform people on whether or not to come for testing. Please read the article again. Cheers.

All states have isolation centres but not all states have testing labs. There's a difference between the two. I'm sure you heard that until recently, Abuja was serving the whole north for testing. In fact as at then, Nigeria had only five test centres. I think it's abt 13 presently.

[lol..I couldn't help but laughed when I saw the interview on channels. The man is really a joker, a big one. Even Okinbaloye was short of words.

sisisioge:


Let me drop this last bit and bade you a good morning.

If contact tracing were an absolute efficient reality in Nigeria or the world at large, we wouldn't be where we are today. Remember how most of the occupants of the same plane that landed vector 1 practically got lost for weeks on end? Those are people on a flight manifest o let alone the web of off record human contacts.

For instance, abokiii asymptomatic yam seller came to ask your neighbour if he would buy yam. Neighbor didn't, no one did. But on his way out, he touch your gate which dear neighbour didn't touch but you did...how will they track contact there? May God help us. Keep keeping safe.

You're talking about community transmission in that case. Contact tracing is for index cases. For example in new York where they now have large clusters of infected communities, no one is talking about contact tracing anymore. It's now containment and lockdowns. Contact tracing is when you have index case like the flight you talked about. There's a flight manifest which means all those who were on that plane are known. What is next is to establish their whereabouts and get them isolated and also trace people they might have been in contact with. I don't know how an app can replace dat either.

I watched the interview on TV, it's unfortunate

nairavsdollars:
Tell me something I don't know about Yamaha generators abeg

Yamaha generators are never stable

nairavsdollars:
App App App...can we even see the picture of the Kogi App sef? Hope it's not audio App?

I tire o. It's obvious the guy is lying anyway and even if it were not, I'm amazed he's so confident replacing docs with an app.

I see some comments in defence of the governor and I think it's either mischievous or downright ridiculous. An app can never take the place of physical diagnosis. The app will tell you if you are due for testing?
Has the state government established any test center? How many people even have access to the so called app and can read and understand the meaning of the instructions and directions there? Are you saying there's no rural areas or settlement in Kogi and that all indigenes can read and write and have access to mobile phones that can install such app? How do you deal with a pandemic that poses existential threat to people with an app? Are you okay? I pray no outbreak in Kogi. That's what we can only pray and hope for.

Iyiataata92:
When we were shouting before his reelection, they called us wailers. Now, there is nothing we can do about it.
Kogi people will have to manage it for the next 4 years.
Just like Buhari is opening everybody's eyes.
Next time you reason with us

All of you are the same. Both wailers and zombies. I don't even know who would have been more corrupt in both of you by now.

Agboriotejoye:


You're talking about community transmission in that case. Contact tracing is for index cases. For example in new York where they now have large clusters of infected communities, no one is talking about contact tracing anymore. It's now containment and lockdowns. Contact tracing is when you have index case like the flight you talked about. There's a flight manifest which means all those who were on that plane are known. What is next is to establish their whereabouts and get them isolated and also trace people they might have been in contact with. I don't know how an app can replace dat either.

Stop contradicting yourself. You said we've moved past that stage of contact tracking hence containment the best option now. So let them stay indoors and do a first line test with the app before going to the various centres they have for test if need be. Yes, they have testing centres and isolation centres. And yes, same way an asymptomatic person is most unlikely to go get tested is how the app is useless to him/her.

I hope its clearer now...enjoy your morning.

Ghostmode2two:


And the illiterates in the villages will be able to access it since your Governor claimed the App is for everybody. So the app will replace NCDC or it will convey messages to NCDC? Putting square pegs in round holes. I am sure that when the real covidd19 hit his state he will bereft of ideas

Same question I asked him. Wrote a lot of fanciful grammar without applying a little bit of inspection