NO ! Jesus Christ is a Servant of Jehovah his God and Father Jehovah's witnesses are servants of Jehovah , the God of Jesus Christ. Revelations 3:12-14. Acts 3:13. Isaiah 42:10-12. 1st Corinthians 3:23
So this is the reason your leadership conveniently rewrote and reinterpreted John 1:1. I feel genuinely sorry for all jehovah's witnesses. They are lost, and only a few of them eventually find the truth of Jesus Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses do and believe what their religious leaders tell them to do. It doesn't have to be what the bible says, as history of their religion has proven many times.
If you are a Pentecostal and you said the above with a straight face then you'll make it big in the world of standup comedy.
broswilli: JW's don't marry other Christians because they believe that other Christians are rejected by God and are reserved for destruction on Judgement day.
Their leadership have already judged other Christians and presumptuously made themselves approved by God. There was a time I was out for preaching and a church group was sharing handbills when they gave a bill to the woman with me she reacted in an unusual impolite manner. You can imagine the way a fanatic Christian would behave if given a charm to hold.
The leadership has instructed them not to be involved in any kind of work in a religious building. So if you are a bricklayer you cannot do your work in a church building. The funny thing is that their leadership went and registered as an NGO of the UN. Jehovahs Witnesses are taught that the UN is the image of the wild beast.
The leadership has also continued to spew out false prophesies. The most recent once includes millions living today will never die. This prophecy started before 1989 but a watchtower magazine of 1989 has that caption. The millions that would never die were those of them that claim to be anointed that were born 1914, would never die before Christ returns. Now we are in 2020, those millions that would never die are now a handful, that was a false prophecy. Since that did not work they came up with a new doctrine to compensate for this foolishness. The new doctrine is the doctrine of overlapping generations. If you go through this doctrine, any human being with a normal brain will know that it is complete nonsense.
What does the Bible say about someone that speaks falsely in the name of Yehovah. I will quote from the Bible.
Deut.18.20 - But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." Deut.18.21 - You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" Deut.18.22 - If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
A false prophet makes a prophecy so that people can follow him. So if we see that a person speaks falsely in God's name we should not follow such persons. Unfortunately the leadership of Jehovahs Witnesses has instructed their members to follow all instructions given by them even if it does not sound reasonable.
The leadership is struggling with many child abuse court cases because their two witness rule make the organization a haven for child molesters. Does the Bible actually say two witnesses should be available before a rape case could be established? NO.
Deut.22.25 - But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Deut.22.26 - Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, Deut.22.27 - for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
So many minors have been raped and parents are instructed not to report because of the two witness rule, while the Bible makes provision for a helpless woman that is raped. These senseless leaders are simply hungry for followership and have made sure they keep a tight grip on the people.
Jehovah's Witnesses have never claimed to be inspired prophets. Jehovah's Witnesses in the past never invented a new prophecy because we believe the gift of prophecy was done away with in the first century C.E. (See 1Corinthians 13:8 )
The Bible which we hold dearly is what guides us on what we believe since it is inspired of God (2Timothy 3:16) Since JW's were not the ones who wrote the Bible, they have been trying to understand the prophecies that are already in the Bible and not making up a new one. In light of Matthew 24 and Luke 21, those scriptures depict signs that would tell us when the last days would begin. And based on Bible chronology and world events, it all pointed to the last days beginning in the year 1914. That year cannot be mistaken or gotten wrong because it aligns just right with Bible prophecy.
Furthermore since they believe that the gift of prophecy no longer holds today, we believe it is only God who can interpret prophecies in the Bible. So with God's assistance of holy spirit, the understanding of certain scriptures do come to light after those prophecies have been fulfilled.
Even in the Bible, the disciples of Jesus who saw him face-to-face did not fully grasp all that he had been teaching them. They even thought that the Kingdom of God would come instantly when Jesus was on earth but they were mistaken because they didn't have full understanding (Luke 19:11) Again, after Jesus was resurrected, he appeared to two of his disciples on the road to Emmaus but they did not recognize Jesus so he inquired of them what had happened lately and they related those things with him — they thought that Jesus would deliver Israel out of the hands of the Romans then, so Jesus had to explain everything from the very beginning from the books of Moses to the books of the Prophets so they could get the full understanding. (Luke 24:13-27)
The only work Jehovah's Witnesses have been tasked with is to proclaim the good news of God's Kingdom to all the nations (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20) and because Jesus himself confirms it as the only message that true Christians should preach in today's world. (Luke 16:16)
Chantinent: Of course, Christians who want to marry are commanded to choose only a fellow believer. ( 1 Corinthians 7:39)
Achorladey: Next time quote the Scriptures so that we see if nothing is HIDDEN......1 Corinthians 7:39......woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord......NWT.......only in the Lord.
The question needed to be asked here is are other CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS in the Lord or not? Do they belong to the Lord? Who is the Lord of JWS? At least it's an open secret that other Christian denomination regards JESUS as their personal Lord and Saviour.
Your response will show whether you follow the command of the Bible or interpretation of Governing Body.
Chantinent: Jehovah’s Witnesses view this command as referring not merely to a person who respects our beliefs but to one who shares and practices those beliefs as a baptized Witness. ( 2 Corinthians 6:14)
Achorladey: The above post makes the whole thing interesting. Why? According to you JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES VIEW THIS COMMAND........then followed by your denomination interpretation of the command and dumped what the Bible states ONESIDE To you belonging to the Lord or marrying only in the Lord means. one who shares and practices those beliefs as a baptized witness. Is that what Paul meant? Are those that died before the RELIGION of JWS come into the scene not in the LORD or do they not belong to the Lord since they didn't practice and share your beliefs?
Now to 2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be unevenly yoked with unbelievers. For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness
Chantinent tell us the meaning of unbelievers according to the Scriptures you cited? Equally tell us who is a BELIEVER scripturally. Are you aware that someone who was born inside the ORGANIZATION of Jehovah's witnesses and had completed the required study material for baptizing but decided not to get baptized is a BELIEVER? Since that person is called a BELIEVER, can any JW marry such person in line with the 1 Corinthians 6:14 you cited up there since the person is not an UNBELIEVER?
Chantinent: God has always directed his worshippers to marry only those of the same faith.
Achorladey: What is that FAITH that bind Christian together? Or in your view JWS and CHRISTENDOM together? Are you mixing your DOCTRINES, BELIEFS, TEACHING as FAITH?
Galatians 3: 23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that [b]this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. 26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith
Chantinent: (Genesis 24:3; Malachi 2:11)
Achorladey: Initially I don't want to quote those Scriptures since we are talking about CHRISTIANS? Perhaps if you can SEPARATE the JEWS(worshippers of true God) and the people of the nations(GENTILES worshippers of foreign god) among we NAIRALANDERS we will appreciate.
Malachi 2:11Judah has been unfaithful. A detestable thing has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem: Judah has desecrated the sanctuary the Lord loves by marrying women who worship a foreign god
Applying the Malachi 2:11 in this case as it regards marrying ONLY IN THE LORD. Will you call the Lord(JESUS Christ) of Christendom a foreign god? Do Christendom (other denominations apart from JWS) worship a foreign god?
Chantinent: This command is also practical, as modern researchers have found.
Achorladey: Bring the STATISTICS let us see how practical it is. . Chantinent: I know some will reprove me saying 'we are all Christians.'
Achorladey: just like some will equally say JWS are not CHRISTIANS
Chantinent: Think: If you marry, will you appreciate if she didn't come to your church? Will it end in happiness? Would you share her beliefs?
Achorladey: The only thing you have to tell us is JWS don't have PROBLEMS in their marriage
but reality says some of your members who even live close to the KINGDOM HALLS have been seen to be WIFE BEATERS and domestic violence abound. And we equally have men who married JWS and never for once lay their hands on her or domestically abuse or violate them. Those point above carry little weight.
Chantinent: Even greatly, it will be disobedience to our God.
Achorladey: because other Christian worship foreign gods. It is only then it can indeed be DISOBEDIENCE
Chantinent: We appreciate marrying people who share our beliefs; it brings happiness and we can avoid marry problems as pre-marital sex, unwanted pregnancies, and STDs.
Achorladey: Other Christian denomination can say the same about all of the above and don't tell us it is marrying your fellow JWS that prevent premarital sex, unwanted pregnancies and STDs.
Chantinent: Next time when you say 'we are all Christians,' do well to be open-minded to ask yourself if your beliefs are the same with ours.
Achorladey: So it is JWS BELIEVES that decides who is A CHRISTIAN . Those that died before RUSSELL set up this JWS religion and don't know about RUSSELL'S beliefs are what?
Chantinent: Gracias.
Achorladey: Thank you too. . Chantinent: Comments are welcome. I'll respond to civil ones.
Achorladey: Will be on the look out
Hhhhmmmm ! Is Achorladey a Servant of Jehovah God?
Jehovah's Witnesses do and believe what their religious leaders tell them to do. It doesn't have to be what the bible says, as history of their religion has proven many times.
For Jehovah's Witnesses to marry or not to marry a fellow Christian (not denomination) is solely based on what their currently belief as set forth by their religious hierarchy. They can claim from now till tomorrow that it's the bible blablabla. But when all is done and dusted, it's based on the current edict of their religious leaders. If the leader changes their mind, 8m people also changes their mind.
In the months leading to my awakening from the group, an elder in one of the congregations I attended said to members that when they are preaching to outsiders, they have to preach what is there in the bible, then enforces the point by saying, not just what they see in the bible but it has to harmonise with what the religion (they call it organisation) teaches.
This indoctrination crystallises their mind. That is why if you are talking with one of them, and what he is saying clearly contradicts what the bible says, its like a veil covers his eyes from seeing it. He will argue, jumped from one point to another so as not to see what is clearly stated there in. But to know his mindset, just ask him what he will do if his religion start teaching the same thing in the future, that's when you will realise the truth. That these people are men's followers. They are idolaters.
1. Why do women talk in church? Ans: They are human beings with mouths, and their creator did not prohibit them from doing so.
2. Why do Africans Get Up Everyday Bowing To Jesus And Mohammed? Ans: Africans are not the only people 'bowing' to religious personalities. This happens everywhere in the world.
3. Why is it that the two most popular religious group also happen to be the two most violent in history? Ans: Human Beings already have a violent nature akin to animals. Religion merely amplifies it!!!
4. Why do Africans always act inferior in all aspects of life? Ans: Not all Africans, and certainly not only Africans. Inferiority complex is a human trait which abounds across races, ethnicity, nations, etc.
5. Can Africa stand on its own ground and live without foreign gods, goods and aids?? Ans: Africa was already standing and doing fairly well without foreign whatever. Africa and Africans still have all it takes to stand alone in prosperity today. They only have to purge themselves (violently if possible) of corruption and greed.
6. Will NEPA bring the light today?
Ans: They will, if your transformer is in order and you are not owing them.
Peacefullove, we have discussed many times in this forum and on those things, it's you that get disgraced and ran like a whipped dog. And now, you are talking about disgrace.
I saw Jozzy4 disgraced you in the Human spirit being saga.... I weep for you, Till date Revelation 21:3,4 is still a nightmare for you
In other instance , You were Whipped when u made the statement that eating emblem is important for everlasting life.
Guy U need help.... U having been seriously tortured.
Mention one instance where I ran from you in a Bible discourse ? Mention just one ?
coming from the guy that was busy abusing Christian on Friday just because they comment on there Islamic post.. What a shame, why don't you show us any Christian that insult you because you comment on.there post just like you guys did on Friday
Just read the rubbish you wrote and correlate it with what i said... I abused them yes you just said it they didn't just comment on our post rather dey said thrash about it... I am a muslim so i read out post... I said i didn't see any muslim saying thrah about most of your useless post... Is it what you find hard to comprehend... What rubbish are you saying
My dear, i believe when you start reading, then you will will stop making silly comments. Did you not see the expression, it comes at the risk of expulsion?
Galatians 6:10 JWs "Walk what is good toward all, but especially toward those related to us in the faith". ( Bros,na Jesus teach them John 13:34-35)
Spiritism is rampant these days. there was a Judas among Jehovah's servants. Still, Jesus and the holy Scriptures CONDEMNED spiritism. Deuteronomy 18;10-12. John 15:15. Galatians 5:19-20
OyA hear am.
Galatians 6 vs 10, As we therefore have opportunity, let do good to all man, especially those in the house hold of faith.
Deduce::
be good to all man, man of all religions, tribes, what u read there is to be good to either JW, or catholic, or Pentecostal.
House hold of faith.
wat is the faith all about John 3 vs 16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
the faith here is some one that believe in Jesus,
Christian believe is this verse and is a common stand for all Christians believe and faith.
so why not being good to ur fellow Christians brother.
all though I don't blame you, simply, most of u guys read from the lens of discreet and faithful slave of the watch tower.
John 13 vs 35
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
love one another in the same faith in Christ Jesus, according to John 3 verse 16.
No you got it wrong. From observation, Christianity is open to scrutiny and tolerant. On the other hand, Islam is like a cult. It doesn't want to be fact-found and rigid. It's only a cult that defends their dogmas with knife and guns and won't be open to rational discuss.
And FYI, there are many religions out there, not many are as open-minded as Christianity, so need of a comparison.
No wonder you people being open minded make you disrespects other people's religion or rather let me say islam...as you are obsessed with us... Open minded making you people edit your book any how...forming new testament and all that...we believe in the original bible, not the rubbish you have now as bible, which has been edited by use less individuals for their selfish gains... How is your bible now word of God when people who never lived with jesus will just come and be adding rubbish with full of contradictions...
broswilli: JW's don't marry other Christians because they believe that other Christians are rejected by God and are reserved for destruction on Judgement day.
Their leadership have already judged other Christians and presumptuously made themselves approved by God. There was a time I was out for preaching and a church group was sharing handbills when they gave a bill to the woman with me she reacted in an unusual impolite manner. You can imagine the way a fanatic Christian would behave if given a charm to hold.
The leadership has instructed them not to be involved in any kind of work in a religious building. So if you are a bricklayer you cannot do your work in a church building. The funny thing is that their leadership went and registered as an NGO of the UN. Jehovahs Witnesses are taught that the UN is the image of the wild beast.
The leadership has also continued to spew out false prophesies. The most recent once includes millions living today will never die. This prophecy started before 1989 but a watchtower magazine of 1989 has that caption. The millions that would never die were those of them that claim to be anointed that were born 1914, would never die before Christ returns. Now we are in 2020, those millions that would never die are now a handful, that was a false prophecy. Since that did not work they came up with a new doctrine to compensate for this foolishness. The new doctrine is the doctrine of overlapping generations. If you go through this doctrine, any human being with a normal brain will know that it is complete nonsense.
What does the Bible say about someone that speaks falsely in the name of Yehovah. I will quote from the Bible.
Deut.18.20 - But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." Deut.18.21 - You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" Deut.18.22 - If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
A false prophet makes a prophecy so that people can follow him. So if we see that a person speaks falsely in God's name we should not follow such persons. Unfortunately the leadership of Jehovahs Witnesses has instructed their members to follow all instructions given by them even if it does not sound reasonable.
The leadership is struggling with many child abuse court cases because their two witness rule make the organization a haven for child molesters. Does the Bible actually say two witnesses should be available before a rape case could be established? NO.
Deut.22.25 - But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Deut.22.26 - Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, Deut.22.27 - for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
So many minors have been raped and parents are instructed not to report because of the two witness rule, while the Bible makes provision for a helpless woman that is raped. These senseless leaders are simply hungry for followership and have made sure they keep a tight grip on the people.
Continue deceiving yourself eyah Have you asked yourself why the ARC hasn't made the reporting of such cases mandatory? Despite pleas of a member of JW Governing Body? If the law specifically says that reporting of cases are mandatory then JW's would follow up those laws to the end because they are in subjection to the government authorities (Romans 13:1)
But in many cases, the victim (if an adult) chooses not to report to the authorities and that's the person's decision. NO ONE tries to influence the decision made by the person.
In essence, parents are responsible for their children not the elders. The elders in the congregation aren't the ‘law’ that you people think it's their job to report to the authorities. The elders are only assigned with the task of discerning the spiritual cleanliness of the congregation. They offer Scriptural counsel/comfort for the victim (2Corinthians 1:3,4) and also disfellowship the offender if found guilty (1Corinthians 5:11)
If the parents of the victim wants to report a case to the authorities they are free to do so and no one will try to hinder or stop them. Also, they do not cover up crimes of offenders —contrary to what you believe in or what you want to make others believe.
The truth is that Jehovah's Witnesses have the most protective child sex abuse policy out of all religions. JW's believe that children are an inheritance and a gift from Jehovah so parents do their very best to try and take care of that special gift (Psalm 127:3)
broswilli: JW's don't marry other Christians because they believe that other Christians are rejected by God and are reserved for destruction on Judgement day.
Their leadership have already judged other Christians and presumptuously made themselves approved by God. There was a time I was out for preaching and a church group was sharing handbills when they gave a bill to the woman with me she reacted in an unusual impolite manner. You can imagine the way a fanatic Christian would behave if given a charm to hold.
The leadership has instructed them not to be involved in any kind of work in a religious building. So if you are a bricklayer you cannot do your work in a church building. The funny thing is that their leadership went and registered as an NGO of the UN. . Jehovahs Witnesses are taught that the UN is the image of the wild beast
[b] The leadership has also continued to spew out false prophesies. The most recent once includes millions living today will never die. This prophecy started before 1989 but a watchtower magazine of 1989 has that caption. The millions that would never die were those of them that claim to be anointed that were born 1914, would never die before Christ returns. Now we are in 2020, those millions that would never die are now a handful, that was a false prophecy. [/b]Since that did not work they came up with a new doctrine to compensate for this foolishness. The new doctrine is the doctrine of overlapping generations. If you go through this doctrine, any human being with a normal brain will know that it is complete nonsense.
What does the Bible say about someone that speaks falsely in the name of Yehovah. I will quote from the Bible.
Deut.18.20 - But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." Deut.18.21 - You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" Deut.18.22 - If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
A false prophet makes a prophecy so that people can follow him. So if we see that a person speaks falsely in God's name we should not follow such persons. Unfortunately the leadership of Jehovahs Witnesses has instructed their members to follow all instructions given by them even if it does not sound reasonable.
The leadership is struggling with many child abuse court cases because their two witness rule make the organization a haven for child molesters. Does the Bible actually say two witnesses should be available before a rape case could be established? NO.
Deut.22.25 - But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Deut.22.26 - Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, Deut.22.27 - for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.
So many minors have been raped and parents are instructed not to report because of the two witness rule, while the Bible makes provision for a helpless woman that is raped. These senseless leaders are simply hungry for followership and have made sure they keep a tight grip on the people.
The BOLDED up there are FALSE Claims you have made to twist the fact.
Bros HYPOCRISY how many child rapists and molesters in your so called body of Christ have you reported to the Authorities and those culprits were punished? Pentecostal Church choirs are harems of sexual debauchery, how many unborn child murderers in your midst have you censure or reported to the law enforcement officers?
Jesus said in John 11:26" anyone who believes in me will NEVER die at all", Bros this is year2020,your Church members no dey die ? Did Jesus make a false prophecy?
Jehovah's Witnesses have never claimed to be inspired prophets. Jehovah's Witnesses in the past never invented a new prophecy because we believe the gift of prophecy was done away with in the first century C.E. (See 1Corinthians 13:8 )
The Bible which we hold dearly is what guides us on what we believe since it is inspired of God (2Timothy 3:16) Since JW's were not the ones who wrote the Bible, they have been trying to understand the prophecies that are already in the Bible and not making up a new one. In light of Matthew 24 and Luke 21, those scriptures depict signs that would tell us when the last days would begin. And based on Bible chronology and world events, it all pointed to the last days beginning in the year 1914. That year cannot be mistaken or gotten wrong because it aligns just right with Bible prophecy.
Furthermore since they believe that the gift of prophecy no longer holds today, we believe it is only God who can interpret prophecies in the Bible. So with God's assistance of holy spirit, the understanding of certain scriptures do come to light after those prophecies have been fulfilled.
Even in the Bible, the disciples of Jesus who saw him face-to-face did not fully grasp all that he had been teaching them. They even thought that the Kingdom of God would come instantly when Jesus was on earth but they were mistaken because they didn't have full understanding (Luke 19:11) Again, after Jesus was resurrected, he appeared to two of his disciples on the road to Emmaus but they did not recognize Jesus so he inquired of them what had happened lately and they related those things with him — they thought that Jesus would deliver Israel out of the hands of the Romans then, so Jesus had to explain everything from the very beginning from the books of Moses to the books of the Prophets so they could get the full understanding. (Luke 24:13-27)
The only work Jehovah's Witnesses have been tasked with is to proclaim the good news of God's Kingdom to all the nations (Matthew 24:14, 28:19,20) and because Jesus himself confirms it as the only message that true Christians should preach in today's world. (Luke 16:16)
Then your leaders are misrepresenting Jesus and his words with false interpretation of scriptures.
1914 is false doctrine. Jesus did not leave any clue to his followers when his arrival would come.
Missapplication of the scriptures has led to dire consequences as seen in the child abuse cases. Now if they don't claim to be prophets why do they ask parents not to pick the call of a child that has left the organization. Only a Prophet can have that kind of authority over a follower.
Sorry i am not going to post a video on parents instructed not to pick the call of their children because your organization is sending spies all over the internet trying to delete videos and books they created so new members cannot track their fallacies.
For abortion center, religion domination is not required or paste as sticker on patients head b4 abortion. so ti yee e...... let's go.
Anybody can take pill for prevention not religion mandatory.
let me tell u a short story
I wrote my second jamb year 2012, at oji-rami Akoko Edo, Edo state. I knew no one there, I got there on Friday, to write my
exams on Saturday, I met a JW, there at the village, I stayed with him, his son took me to the venue of the exams, I saw a two nigga that get where to sleep I came back home to tell the man how helpless the guys was,
he told me he can't accept them, that he only help me because I was affilated to Jehovah witness.
those guys sleep inside bush, just imagine, what if those guys die there or something bad happened to them.
God's love is for everyone, you can say u love base on segregation, that's is not love is infatuation, okay.
I have so many experienced with JW...
my advice for you is dis if u re not born into JW, wo alaye, you go suffer ehn, but u were born there u parent fit they huzzling for u unknown to you..
Dont you know to make it in this life u must be back up with of the two forces, either devil or God forces.
since u guys go inline with oyinbo religion it will be hard for u guys to maintain the normal Africa battle and the verse that open ur eyes to God spirituality had been removed from ur bible.
u guys gat no option Dan to seek after jazz man.
open ur eyes.
everything wey happen to human being not Jehovah's wishes, some happen due to ur ignorance. jare e.
Brother this your misconception about JWs no be true atall, well, you dey honest as you reason am, me myself be like you one time, believing "them say"... Abeg, go check the dealings of JWs with racism and tribalism, you go see say we no dey show partial. Like I dey now, if I find myself for any state or country, other brothers and sisters in the organization no go hesitate to provide me accommodation and shelter with even the best hospitality, even though I just join the organization last year November. Me self no go hesitate to render help to my spiritual brother even if we never meet before. We no recognize white or black, we no even recognize who get money or who no get, that's why you no fit see a homeless JW on the street, because other brothers are ready to help-am...
Na one of waytin Jehovah holy spirit dey give be that, as Jesus talk: if truly you're my disciples, you will have love among yourself.
I remember far back wey I never join Jehovah's organization, e get some churches wey I dey follow colleagues go. For you wey appear not too rich, they go just dey look you like one kin shit, but for those rich kids, everyone go just dey pretend like say them genuinely like them... This na the nonsense wey you no go see among JWs. The first time I go their convention of over 4k people for Ota, Ogun state, that day clear my doubt... Me and my other niggas way visit there together for the first time see the preview of how paradise on earth go be... Everyone was so equal to an extent we start to dey go different family way we never meet before go dey chop their food...
Can such acts be display by the churches in christaindom?
Jehovah's Witnesses do and believe what their religious leaders tell them to do. It doesn't have to be what the bible says, as history of their religion has proven many times.
For Jehovah's Witnesses to marry or not to marry a fellow Christian (not denomination) is solely based on what their currently belief as set forth by their religious hierarchy. They can claim from now till tomorrow that it's the bible blablabla. But when all is done and dusted, it's based on the current edict of their religious leaders. If the leader changes their mind, 8m people also changes their mind.
In the months leading to my awakening from the group, an elder in one of the congregations I attended said to members that when they are preaching to outsiders, they have to preach what is there in the bible, then enforces the point by saying, not just what they see in the bible but it has to harmonise with what the religion (they call it organisation) teaches.
This indoctrination crystallises their mind. That is why if you are talking with one of them, and what he is saying clearly contradicts what the bible says, its like a veil covers his eyes from seeing it. He will argue, jumped from one point to another so as not to see what is clearly stated there in. But to know his mindset, just ask him what he will do if his religion start teaching the same thing in the future, that's when you will realise the truth. That these people are men's followers. They are idolaters.
You sound like an EX-JW. I am one as well so you need not attack me for thinking you are one. I agree with some of the points you listed above but you did not answer the question.
(Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Marry Other ' Christians '?)
ANSWER: This is just to avoid conflict of religious interest in the marriage.
Take for example, a JW (wife) who is married to a man from another christian denomination where celebration of Christmas is allowed. On Christmas days, the husband would expect the wife to prepare Christmas food, so to speak for him and whoever would be visiting him for the celebrations which would be totally against the believe of the wife. Na fight go end am last last. They marry within themselves to avoid situations like this and many more.
Then your leaders are misrepresenting Jesus and his words with false interpretation of scriptures.
1914 is false doctrine. Jesus did not leave any clue to his followers when his arrival would come.
Missapplication of the scriptures has led to dire consequences as seen in the child abuse cases. Now if they don't claim to be prophets why do they ask parents not to pick the call of a child that has left the organization. [/b]Only a Prophet can have that kind of authority over a follower.
[b]Sorry i am not going to post a video on parents instructed not to pick the call of their children because your organization is sending spies all over the internet trying to delete videos and books they created so new members cannot track their fallacies.
I saw Jozzy4 disgraced you in the Human spirit being saga.... I weep for you, Till date Revelation 21:3,4 is still a nightmare for you
In other instance , You were Whipped when u made the statement that eating emblem is important for everlasting life.
Guy U need help.... U having been seriously tortured.
Mention one instance where I ran from you in a Bible discourse ? Mention just one ?
You know the funny thing about your people? You are so full of yourself that even while something is in front of you, you still deny it. I asked you earlier, what is a horse? Is it animal? Human? Spirit? Ghost?
Till today, you are still trying to discover. Don't worry, when your WT is ready, they will put you into the light.
You sound like an EX-JW. I am one as well so you need not attack me for thinking you are one. I agree with some of the points you listed above but you did not answer the question.
(Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses Not Marry Other ' Christians '?)
ANSWER: This is just to avoid conflict of religious interest in the marriage.
Take for example, a JW (wife) who is married to a man from another christian denomination where celebration of Christmas is allowed. On Christmas days, the husband would expect the wife to prepare Christmas food, so to speak for him and whoever would be visiting him for the celebrations which would be totally against the believe of the wife. Na fight go end am last last. They marry within themselves to avoid situations like this and many more.
My simplest answer is, it's what they are told to believe that they believe.
What you are saying above is an exception rather than the rule. In most cases, they are many in religiously divided household (not just the JWs) that these things occur and they are also many religiously divided household that live together without these issues. In these homes, they respect each others and their believes and don't allow it to be a problem among themselves.
Galatians 6 vs 10, As we therefore have opportunity, let do good to all man, especially those in the house hold of faith.
Deduce::
be good to all man, man of all religions, tribes, what u read there is to be good to either JW, or catholic, or Pentecostal.
House hold of faith.
wat is the faith all about John 3 vs 16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. the faith here is some one that believe in Jesus,
Christian believe is this verse and is a common stand for all Christians believe and faith.
so why not being good to ur fellow Christians brother.
all though I don't blame you, simply, most of u guys read from the lens of discreet and faithful slave of the watch tower.
John 13 vs 35
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
love one another in the same faith in Christ Jesus, according to John 3 verse 16.
John 3:16 according to Jesus Christ,is he God Almighty?
The BOLDED up there are FALSE Claims you have made to twist the fact.
Bros HYPOCRISY how many child rapists and molesters in your so called body of Christ have you reported to the Authorities and those culprits were punished? Pentecostal Church choirs are harems of sexual debauchery, how many unborn child murderers in your midst have you censure or reported to the law enforcement officers?
Jesus said in John 11:26" anyone who believes in me will NEVER die at all", Bros this is year2020,your Church members no dey die at all? Did Jesus make a false prophecy?
I will gain nothing making false claims. I have nothing against JW members. But I am sure that your leadership are false prophets. The references made was not concocted by me. The Australian Royal Commission was not conducted by me, JW lawyers lying in that commission was not done by me. Your anger cannot change anything. A false prophet will eventually lead followers into a ditch. Americans and Canadians are ditching your organization because they have come to understand that the organization is man made and has no backing from God. 607 BCE is a false date and therefore 1914 is false even the theology behind it is false.
chatinent: Of course, Christians who want to marry are commanded to choose only a fellow believer. ( 1 Corinthians 7:39) Jehovah’s Witnesses view this command as referring not merely to a person who respects our beliefs but to one who shares and practices those beliefs as a baptized Witness. ( 2 Corinthians 6:14) God has always directed his worshippers to marry only those of the same faith. ( Genesis 24:3; Malachi 2:11) This command is also practical, as modern researchers have found. . I know some will reprove me saying 'we are all Christians.' Think: If you marry, will you appreciate if she didn't come to your church? Will it end in happiness? Would you share her beliefs? Even greatly, it will be disobedience to our God. We appreciate marrying people who share our beliefs; it brings happiness and we can avoid marry problems as pre-marital sex, unwanted pregnancies, and STDs. . Next time when you say 'we are all Christians,' do well to be open-minded to ask yourself if your beliefs are the same with ours. .
Gracias. . Comments are welcome. I'll respond to civil ones.
JWs insult Christianity of over 2000 years by thinking others are mere copies and theirs the original. Even their Bible shows that fact. Ask a JW what is the 3 things that makes us co believers and they begin stuttering cos they know where you're going and they dont want to agree as it will "contradict their teachings, belief"
I have Jw friends over 2decades and i discovered they always do something once you challenging them to a fact finding journey.. They begin to avoid discussing with you bout Biblical matters. Some even begin to grow cold towards you, even if you were respectful, friendly and courteous in discussing with them.
Smh.
So those that have Jesus as Lord and Savior are now unbelievers cos they arent Jws? Laughable!!!
Jesus did not leave any clue to his followers when his arrival would come.
Oga are you lying or is Jesus lying?
What did Jesus say are the signs of his presence in the last days? According to Matthew 24 and Luke 21?
What you people think is that JW's are as confused as the rest of you are Meanwhile it is only the Jehovah's Witness group that has been able to make out the truth from the Bible regarding who Jehovah God is(Psalm 83:18, 146:6), who Jesus is(Matthew 16:16)what God's Kingdom is(Daniel 2:44, Matthew 6:9,10) and what it will do(Revelation 21:3,4) and other Bible truths. The only group that has said; “We will never pick weapons and not kill one another in war or under any other circumstance” (Isaiah 2:4, Matthew 26:52) The only group that all its members do not vote, campaign and hold political offices because we believe man's government can never do what God's Kingdom will do for us (Jeremiah 23:5,6 Micah 5:4) and also because God's Kingdom is not of man's origin (John 18:36)
It is because of this stand that nearly 9million people have taken that the world hates them (John 15:19, 1Peter 4:4)
All those ‘cult’ ‘brainwashed’ ‘zombies’ ‘extremists’ words that you like calling Jehovah's Witnesses is nothing but you people committing the unmistakable fallacy of Ad Hominem The Bible said that true Christians will be identified with mark of love between themselves (John 13:34,35) and oneness in thought (1Corinthians 1:10) — and who better than Jehovah's Witnesses!
You know the funny thing about your people? You are so full of yourself that even while something is in front of you, you still deny it. I asked you earlier, what is a horse? Is it animal? Human? Spirit? Ghost?
Till today, you are still trying to discover. Don't worry, when your WT is ready, they will put you into the light.
No, here you come with your lying tongue. Glad you are frustrated this much.
I asked you on that thread
" Oga is the dragon with seven heads also real ? What about the beasts with different heads described in the same revelation ? Since the horses are real to Mumu like you, Then the dragons are real . Dumb man
See how a single bible verse as Rev 21:3,4 turn you to a toddler grabbing straws "
What ya say ?
Let me remind you that the name "Human" was given to creatures of flesh and blood. That which doesn't exist in heaven
The key here is JWS see someone that has studied there books for baptism as a BELIEVER while someone that is baptized and zealous for Christ work in other churches are SEEN as an UNBELIEVER.
In reality it is what JWS beliefs and doctrine are that QUALIFY a BELIEVER from an UNBELIEVER not what the Scriptures say.
JWS don't marry other Christian simply because of what its DOCTRINES DICTATED as rottennaija stated.