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OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You actually called a sitting governor who's argually the best performing governor in SE an @sslicker....


Those presidential aspirants 4rm the east who did not worship buhari, how many vote dem get?

U did not answer ...u come dey issue threat. Lmao. Big joke!

I'm all for a conversation. That's why we're here. I only ask you to discuss with decorum. That is what mature people do. You can't possibly call me a joke. Where do you know me from?.

Look, we are all at liberty to disagree or agree, and my issue with Mr. Umahi is his unilateral way of attending to what is supposed to be Igbo corporate interest.

Mr. Umahi has been about becoming Nigeria's president from day one. Nothing wrong with it. In fact, the Southeast needs to take its rightful place in Nigeria. But one man should not allow himself to be used against his people. This is what Dave Umahi did, and this is the reason his people left him at fulani alter.

whofoolwho:
I dont know why Umahi should be bitter over the outcome of the Apc primaries and the decision of the eastern delegates.I can still remember vividly that while he was still in pdp that he was among the serving eastern govrnors that kick against Atiku selecting peter obi as his running mate.

Umahi is a very selfish, dubious man. This man has been sabotaging everything Igbo in cohort with his fulani handlers in the hope that he will be said to have been a good servant, and he thinks people of the southeast are so daft that he will pull a wool over their eyes.

Buahri Airport, Buhari Presidential Lodge, Buhari gutter, Buhari culvert. EWU!.

His brother supervised the killing of his own people by Fulani marauders, while he connived to set up useless Ebubeagu to protect these same killer fulanis. We knew his aspiration was dead before he even set foot in the eagle square.

Fulani will keep playing fools who fail to realize that if you betray your brother, even the benefactor of that treachery will despise you for un-trustworthiness.

David was played.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Pius Anyim nko? when did he start being an @sslicker.? how did buhari play him wen he's not even in APC.?
Onu nko?


U are a joke.

Is it not funny how u guys re not talking abt the woman who stepped down 4 tinubu? where is she from?


ohaneze is a useless organisation.

Enyi, read a post properly before talking nonsense.
YOu are certainly at liberty to hold an opinion, but calling me names will elicit reciprocity from me.
I will stop at returning your insult, but I will not be as gracious next time.
Just for info.

helinues:
Wrong, regional project. Una antecedent indicate that

At this rate, Tinubu will be very lucky to win the southwest region.

tamdun:
Nobody played umahi, Umahi is the only igbo that was able to convince his state delegates to vote for him, other Igbo aspirants like Onu and okorocha got nothing, Igbo delegates sold their votes to highest bidder, so before u accused Buhari, blame ur igbo delegates that refused to vote for their own

I know you do not know what played out in that primary election in regards to Southeast politics. I'd like to leave it at that.

Greatzeus:
Wisdom is profitable to direct. Don't because of he owes you money,you disgrace him in church or
at any public place. He might actually not have at the moment or he could be trying to take advantage of you because of his position.
First,like how much is the money, Since it's something he buys all the time,it means they're regular stuff we use often like foodstuffs or provisions or clothes or shoes,if it is,the money shouldn't be what can affect you adversely. Please give him time but keep reminding him.
Secondly,there are pastors and there are pastors. There are pastors who collect N30k like the winners story we heard,there are those who own the churches themselves.
If he's an appointed pastor, kindly give him time or just leave the money for him. But don't give you credit again.
If he owns the church, which I doubt,he collects tithes, offerings and other pledges. He has no excuse,make sure you send messages to him and bug him for your money till he pays. If he refuses or ignores you,leave it for him,God will replenish your pocket.

What exonerates this scammer pastor from the same responsibility the rest of us have towards our creditors to explain that we cannot meet one's fiducial obligation momentarily and gently ask for a grace period?

Ebubu:
APC consigned him to history ?

Tinubu visited him after Tinubu won. He thereafter went and took APC senatorial ticket acter Presidential primaries and won. His godson is APC governorship ticket. In politics you don't win all fight. Dave Umahi is a worthy fighter for Ebonyi than Onu. And he will keep representing us in National politics.


Go and collect your destinies, Your state delegates sold them to Atiku, Wike, Amaechi and Tinubu.

Ebonyi delegates all voted Umahi and Anyim.

Fools

Na your papa be fool

Dsalvo:
Why are some you such stubborn and myopic dunderheads, plus simpletons, who cannot accommodate opposite views in your head even if only for the sake of what is called process of elimination?

The guys is simply saying Obi cannot win and that, realisitically, only Tinubu or Atiku can.

Why not then try and approach both candidates to know their plans in the spirit of the idea that a polity that makes no demand of leaders gets nothing from them? Instead you are insulting OP ungraciously for his commonsensical take on the matter of 2023.

I remember shouting during #EndSARS for youths to take advantage of the mood then to march on the national assembly and make demands for transformational changes like State Policing, restructuring, true fiscal federalism etc.

Instead the singular and self-obstructive focus was on the abolishment of SARs that any wise man knows an unrepentant government can still introduce covertly under another name and in a different uniform.

Fundamental demands that can lead to fundamental changes were abandoned for egotistic pursuit. A golden olportunity was missed and Nigeria remains fcked currently.

In the end I musy ask why you people deal in absolutism and fundamentalism alone in Nigeria like bloody terrorists ? No flexibility or expansive forecasting in your thinking at all.

Facts is that even Buhari could have delivered more if Nigerians know how to engage him to do so instead of thinking a single individual can do it all.

The misguided and absolute hope being placed on the shoulders of Obi, as if he is a messiah, is patently delusional to begin with considering pragmatism tells us he will lose and lose woefully.

You can commit to voting Obi but it would not kill members of a wise electorate to engage Atiku and Tinubu, most likely to become President, to find out their plans for them.

No one is under any obligation to be hoodwinked by paid opinion manipulators, such as yourself and your many colleagues here in cyberspace. On what authority should you suggest who is electable, and who is worth anyone's consideration?. What's in it for you, if not your Garry and meat?.

Abeg go siddon!

Flier:
The Nigerian youth has the opportunity to meet TINUBU and ATIKU to confirm what is their policies for the youth but they are busy marketing a candidate that has zero chance of winning presidential election
It is rear to see an independent candidate or 3rd party candidate to win a presidential election in a developed world let alone in Nigeria where 3rd party is non-existence
We have the opportunity to select the lesser of the evils at the moment before we end up with the worst of the two
The debate among the youth at the moment should be who is the lesser evil? because we are left with 2 thieves at the moment and we must select one.

Shame on you!.

This idiot, Buhari a.ss licker, has been finally played. But he will rather leave the people who played him to whine about those he betrayed.
Dave, you reek of inferiority complex and have finally played yourself out of the grand scheme of things.

Did you not contest against your elder brother Ogbonnaya Onu, in that primary?.

If you still have any honor left in you, be a man and take the Peter Obi bold steps. He did it as an honest man should. APC has finally consigned you to the dustbin of political history.

helinues:
Well, I wrote this in support of Osinbajo before the Apc primary .

I believe it can still be useful for Tinubu and his supporters, afterall, Omo wa no ni

In other to secure good victory for BAT, I have some suggestions and opinions

1. We don't have enemies

The oppositions are not our enemies but just those who might not have been understanding our message or have entirely different opinions about 2023 race. They are not a threat, infact, they are still our brothers, sisters, uncles, father's, Mother's irrespective of religion or region. Engaging with them maturely is what can bring more people to our camp

2. It's time to give back to the community

Some Nigerians have the mentality/perception of giving back to the community only when they are elected into political positions or any form of power. That's wrong, a little contribution from individuals would really change things. In any capacity you can, it's time to give back to the community. Not necessarily have to be about money, if you are in position of helping others, if you have a contact someone has been looking for, share it and make the difference

3. There is no need of petty groups

Tinubu this group, Tinubu that group, Tinubu those group are just a means of enriching the opportunists most especially when it involved donations., Ko necessary.Don't waste your money all in the name of donations, don't waste your time all in the name of attending online/offline meetings. Infact, fake groups would definitely emerge to scam people. Give directly to those around you.

4. The oppositions are not that tough

Nigeria oppositions are not though but they can't be underestimated. Those who might be opposing Tinubu's presidency are mostly those who need to be enlightened. With constructive arguments/submissions, we could still win some of them to our camp

5. Don't make lies to support your arguments

Lying just to back who you are supporting is not necessary. consistency is really important in winning more people to our camp. You don't have to lie to support your arguments cos people would burst your lies and that's not good for our camp.

6. Don't make your support only online

Elections are not won online though winning people online is a plus, the real voters are in real life, extend your support to friends, families and colleagues. Tell them about BAT, spread the message of possible good things to happen to this country if he is elected.

Tinubu for 2023 president
#LagosBoy

I told you you're a pretty smart fellow. Unfortunately, you elected to deploy that gift in the wrong ways.
See you around when you contradict everything you stated above.

candidtalk:
Ultra-lightweight Jonathan , in 2011, as the perfect case study example , even defeated two very popular Northerners in Buhari and Atiku when mobilisers and stakeholders in the North, serving their own permanent political interest, decided to work for him.

How can anyone then be making the silly argument the illiterate and hateful IPOBian OP is touting in relation to the very popular, well-liked, politically sagacious, iconically-followed and universally influential Tinubu who is arguably Africa's most well-know political leader?

Tinubu is not the mate of Atiku and I expect this election to reveal that reality glaringly.

Till election day, IPObians can continue to delude themselves . It is what losers do because losers fail to plan meaning they are inevitably planning to fail.

Oga leave grammar. Tinubu cannot win in the north.

What is clear is that Tinubu is not the northern establishment's candidate. This became clear during the primaries when the APC chairman sought to impose a fellow northerner on the ticket.

Do you really believe that Adamu would make that announcement without Buhari's nod?. If you answer in the affirmative, then I have a long bridge to sell to you, really.

Also think, there is a very formidable movement in Kano, the kwankwasiyya movement. Their sphere of influence also extends to neighboring states. These are hardcore Islamic adherents and are foes of Tinubu's northern lackey Ganduje. How do you think that pans out?.

If you are a Peter Obi or Atiku Abubakar, in what relationship will you be looking to stand with Rabiu Kwankwaso?. Bear in mind that this is one man Tinubu or Atiku cannot purchase as they are wont to do. Two of them actually, Peter Obi and Rabiu Kwankwaso.

I understand your passion for your candidate's self-acclaimed mandate, but the political realities do not favor him as it stands.

Mandate2023:
the last time I checked SS is different from SE so stop attaching d 2 together as APC will get massive vote from some part of SS and again Obasanjo did not get votes from SW during his first tenure, we voted another yoruba in d person of olu falae.....after NW that Buhari is very popular in which tinubu have plenty allies SW is next when it comes to bloc votes and number of voters

So nw that obi will possibly spoil atiku chance of getting bloc votes from SE which is an advantage to tinubu then we shall see what impact the vote from the landlocked biafra 5 states will give or make obi d president since u so much believe SE vote can make anyone d president...in 2015 why did Jonathan not win with SE and SS votes or atiku in 2019 most of u don't know anything

You are happy to attach Hausa and Fulani, but desperate to separate SE from their SS brethren?.
You obviously have not suffered enough in Nigeria.

Ibadanpikin:
Don't deceive your self with delegates and bribed politicians votes,will the average core muslim masses on the street reject their brothers atiku or kwankwaso who share same region and faith and vote a yoruba man who the see as half bake muslim man.

A Muslim whose only wife is a Christian.
Haba!

Here's why Tinubu and APC are currently shitting their pants.
It is evident that Tinubu and Lagos APC orchestrated the mob attack on the People of southeast and South-south extracting who sort to register to vote a few days ago.

If you look at the graphic I included below, it becomes even clearer why Tinubu is jittery.
Votes from Southeast and its allied South-south states are at par or even surpass Northern ballots. Southwest is a non-starter here.

With massive registration drives in the Southeast and South-South, APC and even PDP know they are in real trouble. If we discount the big K's, Kano, Kaduna, Katsina, and Borno, where are the much taunted Northern votes?

This is certainly not a good time to be Jagaban.

Pakute:
Swerve abeg!

Sure.
I can't be caught bantering with a nonentity.

Mooh247:
The difference between Campaigning and constituiting nuisance on social media is in the result of both action


Now Your noise and Propaganda, Peter Obi still doesn't have more twitter follower than Tinubu or Osinbajo not even Reno Omokirikiri

Crowd funding Sowore made over $200,000 , Obi isn't making a penny

Tinubu is the Flagbearer of Nigerias biggest party and the Ruling party, Pandora thief Obi was rejected by PDP, NNPC and had to bribe his way in a 3 factioned Labour party



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Let me advise you.
Strip naked in front of a mirror.
Now, place both hands on your head and repeat the following words.

My father, my maker
Whomsoever I have offended that now condemns me to daily disgrace myself in cyberspace
I ask for your forgiveness and mercy

Repeat the above in the following seven days and you will be healed of this affliction.

MASTAkiLLAh:
Campaign and vote for Tinubu instead of dragging a Peter Obi who hasn't mentioned your master's name even once. Wetin be Tinubu urchins problem for this life sef ?

Bitterness and inferiority complex.

Pakute:
Stop lying to yourself, Obi is the face of ibo Presidency.

Ibos are making this contest tribal and it would be pretty interesting how it ends.

Says a tribalist who cannot be bothered to address a whole ethnic group in the name they preferred. Are you Yoruba or Yaruba?.

shuttox:
Ex-VP, PDP fear regional divisions in S’East, North may work for APC candidate




https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/atiku-to-consult-obi-kwankwaso-tinubu-considers-lalong-el-rufai-sgf-others/%3famp

This election will be over before 12 pm and APC soundly defeated on election day if PDP/LP/NNPP amalgamates.

If Atiku can convince Peter Obi and Rabiu Kwankwaso to work with him, on a verifiable written agreement to do only one term, Obi becomes the vice president and Kwankwaso senate president. On his valediction after 4 years, Obi runs for president while Kwankwaso deputies him, and Shekarau takes the senate saddle, your next president is Atiku Abubakar.

But this is a tall order, a very tall one as it stands. What happened here that forecloses this possibility is the usual northern me-first attitude, a moderation of which Mr. Atiku now seeks, albeit dishonestly.

Atiku knows that the departure of Peter Obi under the circumstance it happened begets bellyache for his presidential ambition. He cannot be sure to win this election with Ahmed Tinubu on the APC ticket without further merging Mr. Obi's base behind him. And let's not forget the other elephant in the northern room, Rabiu Kwankwaso.

That said, this election is looking to be a real 4-way battle. And in that fight, Atiku and Kwankwaso will quickly carve up most northern votes. Only those who never lived up north will believe that the average northerner will vote for A Yoruba man, even if he is a Muslim, in an election where native northerners and Muslims are also on the ballot.

Tinubu's chances of winning this election have waned if one considers he will not do as well as he would wish in the north, where he vigorously invested his political capital regardless of the number of northern governors working for him.

The Kwankwaso/Shekarau and now the Atiku factor in the north effectively checkmate any windfall Tinubu will expect from this region, and that will put paid to his famous life ambition at long last, his choice of a VP notwithstanding.

Our people are now awake. They do not trust or really like both Tinubu and Atiku. Nigerians are well-informed regarding what these characters represented and still represent, and that is not the way forward for most people.

The real winner here is the Nigerian people and their new darling, Peter Gregory Obi. I see the desire of Nigerians of every ethnicity and religion to jettison the old order for a chance of a renaissance. They are tired of the politics of acrimony, ingrained corruption and dishonesty that has left them impoverished and in disunity, as a nation and economically.

Therefore, Mr. Obi, a very principled man cannot and will not, impugn the hopes and goodwill, of teeming Nigerians, both the aged and youths are increasingly heaping on him to agree to a selfish and dishonest call by tired politicians who have a real chance of losing this election to come to their rescue on the backs of the people.

Those who argue that Peter Obi does not have structures forget people are structures, and it is these people on whose mandate Mr. Obi now stands upon. It is these same Nigerians, who are now dipping their hands in their Buhari depleted pockets to say, we will fund this campaign, and will cough up the billions of Naira that will be required to get to the finish line.

This is the way it should be. Every aspect of what we are now witnessing has the coloration of a true revolution, and this is where we need to get as a people.

Are you Obi-dient yet?.
#GetYourPvcReady

Dsalvo:
Lol. Dem send anybody to go forest where Snake dey?

Yorubas are one of the most insular and self-satisfied Nigerian ethnic group.

Yet those always wandering into their space like Igbos, never happy to remain in their domain, are the ones always accusing Yorubas of impropriety.

Is that not madness? I've always wondered why those who complain so bitterly about Yorubas can't simply stay away from them given that Yorubas, of the major ethnic groups in Nigeria, are least aggressively in the face, space and affair of others.

It is those with boundary issues always complaining about others.

Nigeria is a federal republic. That constitutional basis guarantees freedom of movement and domicile to every citizen irrespective of place of origin. A Yoruba man owns 2 rental houses in my village, he also lives there happily with his wives and children, and that is his good right.

It is your people who need to understand that what you call your space is neither here nor there. If you need your space, you will need to declare a republic of Yoruba people. As it stands, you definitely lack the courage and will to do so.

My broda rest.

samunaka:
Putting your act together simply means speaking in unison, igbos are too divided when it comes to national politics, what will happen if the whole of the South East and most of the South South go ahead and vote for PO in 2023, it might not earn him the presidency but at least it will make a statement, with that bold step you can negotiate the presidency in 2027, mind you Democracy is a game of numbers, and this is what is mitigating against you, this I believe is the bitter truth

I think you're missing the point.

We are no longer about the old, debilitating ethnic politics the likes of Tinubu and his colleagues have crippled Nigeria with. This is not what is on offer in the Peter Obi movement.

No country has made progress playing ethnic politics. This here is a youth national movement. We need to urgently wrestle our livelihoods and commonwealth from people who have impoverished and subjugated our people.

This is about Nigeria and its people. Please join us.

bastardmod:
You dey mind am?

Imagine the audacity bro.

Putinofrussia:
Stealing Lagos dry and Lagos continues to grow and grow.
Lagos is the fifth economy in Africa,has the highest IGR,VAT etc which are distributed to your parasite state.
Does not owe workers with having the largest workforce in Nigeria,Pay its pensioners duely, etc.
Nigeria needs this your kind of stealing so it can grow and grow.Dont you think so?

Cpoy & paste.
The day Igbo's finally decides to leave Lagos, Oshogbo will look like London in your eyes.

Enjoy your resident thief from Iragbiji meanwhile.

Tiefnubu is recruiting his 40 thieves.
Lokoja is a semi village, and Mr I am young has not paid salaries in months.

These are Tinubu's new associates.
Nigeria sorry.

Putinofrussia:
lol
Which oil does Southeast have?
All your oil is not up to that of Ondo.

Lagos does not depend on any to exist.
Lagos has been blessed tay tay..
Look at this..

I've educated you. Now, run along...

Patrioticbreed9:
Politics aside, i love your culture,foods,music etc.

I love your sense of humour.

Am proud to have you guys as a country man.


Long live my yoruba's brothers!

Yoruba lagba!


Politics cant make me hate you guys, you guys are just too good, jare.

One love femi,seyi,aregbeshola,tinuke,shadee,yemi etc

Hmnn!.
Dem neva show you their real face.
Long live the snake that doesn't bite you o!.

Zico5:
Some people are bent on forcing their candidate on everyone the same way they claimed they own 95% of Lagos. But to be sincere, they are living in illusion. By the time the tsunami of votes hit them, they will know they are just DOT in the circle with no bearing. I love Peter Obi but the way these people are pushing him and discrediting BAT gave me reverse. They can do their worst the way they have started causing nuisance up there. Jagaban is the real deal.

Be calming down jor. You sef know say na Peter Obi Nigeria need today.
Reason the matter with your head, not your sentiments.

theTranslator:
[color=#000000][url=saharareporters.com/2019/03/04/do-igbo-and-yoruba-know-they-are-sons-oduduwa-fredrick-nwabufo]Do The Igbo and the Yoruba Know They Are
Sons Of "Oduduwa"[/color]?[/url] By
Fredrick Nwabufo

In other words, the Yoruba and the Igbo are indigenous to the geographical area called “Nigeria”.
And it has also been argued thatboth groups are of a singularancestry.

And the Supreme Being commissioned Oduduwa, a "sky-god", to carry out a terrestrial task; he descended from heaven with a cockerel which had sixfingers. And the earth was made by himthrough the ingenious deployment of his
avian subject. But that was after‘Atewonro’ had sprinkled some dirt on the ocean to found Ile-Ife. And he had wives,and sons who founded other kingdoms. So the mythic origin of theYoruba says.
In Igbo mythic origin, the Supreme Being sent Eri down to earth to establish balance and social order. The "sky-god" founded Nri, and he had wives, and sons who founded other Igbo towns and communities.
The Yoruba and the Igbo share a lot more than similar mythic origins. They are the oldest inhabitants of the areas they live in.
In other words, the Yoruba and the Igbo are indigenous to the geographical area called “Nigeria”. And it has also been
argued that both groups are of a singular ancestry.
The two groups have had established trade-links dating to the period before contact with the first Europeans. And they are known to share passion for industry; are convivial, accommodating and peace loving.
Also, there is no documented history of war between the Igbo and the Yoruba despite occupying the same "southern
hemisphere".In the precolonial times,wars among kingdoms and natives were common, but there appears to be no recorded incident of battle between the clans and kingdoms of the two groups. In language, they are both of the Kwa-group Niger-Congo origin. The similarities between the Yoruba and the Igbo language are remarkable, if not uncanny,which point to an identical fount.
Despite having so much in common,politics has been a pesky point of dissonance for both groups. Though the Igbo and the Yoruba do not have a romantic political history; they have keptthe dagger away from their rivalry.
The outcome of the Western Region elections of 1951, in which Nnamdi Azikiwe claimed he was sabotaged by Obafemi Awolowo, perhaps laid the molten magma of political rivalry between the two groups.
Some associates of Azikiwe alleged thatAwolowo, leader of the Action Group,bought over members of the NCNC, after they had won elections on the platform of the party in the western region, to scuttle Zik’s plan of being the leader of theregional assembly.
They also claimed that Awolowo scuttled Zik’s “one-Nigeria” agenda, and introduced tribal politics.
However, there is no proof to substantiatethese claims. In fact, the allegation regarding Awolowo’s sabotage of Zik wasdisproved by the colonial government at the time.
So, over the years, stories have been revised and passed down to generationswho do not probe the information but hold it as a grudge against the other.
Most young people trading hate on social media cannot actually say their grievance against those they are tugging with, except to echo the refrain of revised stories handed down to them and to act on stereotypes they have been socialised by.
But can the Igbo and the Yoruba ever unite? Yes, they can. And they will. There will come a time when there is no option,but for them to hold each other in a warm
embrace as "descendants of sky-gods."
There will come that time.


Fredrick is a media personality.
Twitter: @FredrickNwabufo

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No be only"descended from heaven with a cockerel ". How about "descending with a pusu". Nonsense.
Dis one don go smoke loud.
Sebi Yoruba don dey use style beg?. Una never see anything.

Yoruba ko, Igbo ni.

helinues:
Birds of same plumage.....

I go soon report you give mods.
In fact, let me ...