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It is clear that some of us do not know how political value chain and transmission work or they have ogi inside their skulls. Osinbajo did nothing to bring about a Buhari government so cannot expect royalty, nor does he enjoy special status with Buhari. However, this is without prejudice to the party's strategic elections decision.

His principal, Tinubu has been declared persona non grata at the rock by the northern establishment. What that means is that you cannot reject the father but accept the son. They are one and the same in the final analysis.

Having said that, there are people without whom Buhari would probably not be president today. Tinubu is óne of them, but also Amaechi, Onu, Kalu, and a few other names that we may never hear.

Northerners did not make Buhari President. Southerners did, and the south did not start and end in Yorubaland. If I know northerners as I believe, my hunch tells me we are all in for a big surprise.

Let's wait for it, and I tell you, hearts will break.

Why does everything Yoruba have agbero nature?.

OfoIgbo:
Can you imagine? This poo and drugs merchant is promising OUK the senate presidency. The same guys that ensured Igbos did not even get the smaller speaker of the house position.

What is the SE doing with senate presidency? What a huge insult.

So after nearly 60 years of not being in power, Tinubu wants to offer Igbos senate presidency. What a joke.

Igbos just have to realise that Tinubu is not for us. He started by undermining GEJ's presidency in 2015. Now he plans on getting the presidency he undermined the south for. It ain't gonna happen.

OUK is about to politically rape BAT

Sophisticated mofos.

So, una been dey codedly beg since while his urchings are here forming Mike Tyson?

These people are pathetic. I'm yet to see what a Yoruba man has over an Igbo that makes him think he can successfully manipulate him.
Igbo have had Senate presidency. Orji will become the VP if Lawan gets the nod, yet you want to give him and his people Senate president.

A position Nnamdi Azikiwe attained in 1960, Dennis Osadebay 1960-1963, Nwafor Orizu 1963 -1966, Evan Enwerem 1999, Chuba Okadigbo 1999–2000, Anyim Pius Anyim 2000-2003, Adolphus Wabara 2003-2005, Ken Nnamani 2005–2007.

You are offering Igbos a position they have successfully occupied serially, and in doing so, validating Yoruba boasting that Igbo cannot preside in Nigeria. Are Igbos going forward or backward?. Is anyone still in doubt regarding the evil intentions of some Yorubas towards their southeastern neighbors?.

Very insolent and unreasonable people. And you're attempting to usurp Igbo man's turn at the helm while insulting him. Una never see anything. Treachery is no man's exclusive right. Two can play that game.

Tinubu is well advised to speak with Peter Obi. Fulani will throw him under the bus in a few.
It's PeterObi2023 or North continues.

Simple!

Philipponzaghi:
I like you bro and I also like the bolded.

You are bold about your decision. Now start campaigning massively for Atiku and leave us with our own god to campaign for.

No fight in church, say a prayer and I say amen!

Atiku ke?.
I am Obi-dient sir.

Oya, say Amen

Reality3080:
so u are saying d future of his kids are ruined if Peter obi doesn’t emerge as winner?

This is d lowest I have seen all my life as regards campaign,I am telling u everything with my full chest that Peter obi will not win

Fair enough.
As it stands, Mr. Obi is a presidential candidate of a mass movement political party legally registered and recognized by the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Your Candidate is not, and his chances are dwindling by the hour

And oh, I saw you calling out your gang members up there.
We sha no dey fear face.

Philipponzaghi:
This Oluwafemi is a compound fool.

Same SE governors delegates in PDP fail to vote Anyim in the PDP primaries and even failed to vote Wike a fellow southerner.

I want SE to be very bold in coming out to support Atiku. No one will reprimand or shame then for doing so. Come out and declare support for Atiku and be very bold about it.

When we Yorubas voted Buhari in 2015, we came our bold, campaigned and supported him. Ibos too should do the same and enough of all these nonsense bla bla bla SW this or that.

In 1993 when the Ibos voted a northerner against Abiola, we Yorubas simply accepted and moved on.

But no one's crying bros.
Igbo say dem no fit stand behind your god.
How else would you define moving on?.

Leave matter jare. See you at the field, if your god makes it past the primaries

Reality3080:
so d future of your kids depends on Peter obi emergence as president?

So what if he doesn’t become d president,what happens to d future of your kids?

So if another candidate enters their future is not sure right?

U are a big baby,an adult with a baby brain

Peter obi will never b president n I pray your kids turn out well,don’t use your stupidity to affect those innocent kids

Your bigoted wishes and prayers, and insult towards the OP are canceled herewith.
And a big YES to the highlighted questions.

T9ksy:
But, why are you Obidient crew always presenting the rest of us with these two options? How about outright separation?

My brother,

You sef know say to break away from Nigeria must come through violence. Are we ready for another war?. If yes, then.

Obi - Atiku - Lawan - Kwankwaso

Depending on further horsetrading, the northern votes may be balkanized or consolidated.
This will determine the outcome of the 2023 polls.

RepoMan007:
Again they are blocking a food and energy giant. Ii will affect the west as much as Russia.

Would you care to explain how or why this is the case?.

Reality3080:
your obituary in d mud already

I will appreciate if u can share all my comments since I started using nairaland,anything less than that u are just disturbing yourself

Cry baby,
Come again

monakii:
What is deceit therein? Enough of join body and masquerading.

If you think power should stay in the north vote a Northerner and if you think otherwise then vote any southerner of you choice. Stop blackmailing any person or region for the present problems we are together into.

As a people, we must learn to be critical of ourselves before criticizing others.
I think it's time for us to ask our leaders questions than to be pointing fingers at innocent folks. Imagine if this administration had done what all Nigerians hoped for, will you be here blaming or praising Yorubas?

Shockingly, I was a fan of this administration in 2014-15 but was not in support of in 2019. Simply because I am convinced it is bereaved of ideas and values capable of driving a 21st century economy or any habitable country.

Importantly, I am not a fan of tribe but as a patriotic Nigerian, our current situation demands that the next president have to be a southerner (most likely from the east of South) however, the Igbos must earn presidency of this country by negotiation, consultation and persuasion with other southern folks. A South East presidency can never arrive by threats, violence, name calling, retaliation, disloyalty, envy, political prostitution etc.

Taah!, see your head.
Shebi for una small mind, na so una sophisticate reach?.

Your treachery will be repaid henceforth and in full.
These are not Zik and Awolowo days o.

It will come full circle.
SE/SS or North 2023.

We never tire!

8gen1:
that guy is an afonja by blood

Na e make I ask am again.

itaewon:
I be ibo but me and my family will vote tinubu

Are you Ibo or Igbo?.

Iwalk:
How do u know all dis?did u work with the two companies
Do u know who Bolaji Balogun is?
Most times Govt use an individual to seal deals
dont b sentiment get ur fact clear Oga
weda Tinubu or Osibanjo,i no fit vote for Atiku.

Why are you quick to doubt his submission but swallow Tinubu's obvious falsehood as wholesome?.
What exactly is wrong with some of you?. Is Tinubu infallible?.

The man is a known characterless fellow and deserves to be called out when and if he chooses to exhibit his true self.

seguntijan:
By Kay Lord.

I want to seriously address an issue today.

This write up I am directing mostly to Yorubas and Nigerian citizens from the southern part of Nigeria.

I have never had any problem with people making a choice of who they want to support for an elective position. I believe as human beings, it is our inalienable right as a homo sapiens to have a freewill to make informed choices over anything in life, including political choices. Even God gave us, His creation a free will to make choices. God as almighty as He is, would never force His will on any human being, how much more another human being to force another to take a position he does not like or want.

In fact, life would lose his colour if we all follow the same route over everything that pertains to life. The English folks says variety is the spice of life. Our forefathers in Yorubaland in their own wisdom too says; “gbogbo wa a le sun ka kori si ibi kanna.” Therefore, I don’t ever have any problem with friends/people who share a different opinion from mine. In fact, I respect people who are confident to have an alternate view over issues, own it and can brilliantly articulate those views, even if I don’t agree with them. Some closest persons to me on Facebook don’t usually agree with me on political choices. It is very okay. That is how life should be.

Having given this background, I need to really ask what sin Tinubu has committed that warranted the level of hatred unleashed on him by people, especially of the same ethnic group with him and folks from the southern part of Nigeria. It is okay not to want a man to be president. My closest friends on this platform are supporting Osinbajo, and this has not changed anything between us. It is their political choice and preference. Your choice does not change who you are as a person. What I find distasteful are the people that have vowed not only to stop Tinubu, but to malign his character. Cook up different stories to make him look like the devil. Whereas it is very hard for you to see other ethnic groups do these to their own leaders.

Since Atiku emerged as PDP candidate and even before the primary, hardly would you find a Northerner disparage him, assassinate his character, and say unprintable stuff about him. Don’t get it twisted, a lot of northerners are not supporting his candidacy, but they would never disrespect him blatantly. Of course, there would always be an exception to the rule, but this is a general observation that is valid. I sat down and ask myself, why are we like this down south?

Tinubu’s detractors are quick to echo about how corrupt he is, yet they have no single evidence to corroborate their claim. Am I saying Tinubu is a saint? Never! Then, the question is, which politician is a saint in Nigeria? Okay, if you say Tinubu is corrupt, what of Atiku? Guess what, how many northerners are daily shouting how corrupt Atiku is? The kind of scathing testament about Atiku written by a man who knows him best, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo in his book, My Watch is enough to disqualify someone from ever holding a public office. But did you hear northerners shout themselves hoarse about it?

The next thing is to say Tinubu is too old. At 70 too old? Some wrote a PhD dissertation on Tinubu’s likely age to be 90. I got so angry one day, I told one of those folks I know a 90-year-old man when I see one because my Dad is 89 years old and would be 90 by October. For you to say Tinubu is 90 only shows you don’t have elders and old people in your family. That is the only reason you can say a 70-year-old man is 90 and too old. To them, at 70 Tinubu is too old to run for President, but nobody is saying a word about Atiku who is 75 and just won PDP primary election. Have you heard a northerner talk about Atiku’s age? Yet, my own people go about with the chorus of Tinubu is too old. Se afise ni?
They don't know Biden is 79 years old, Trump, 75; Nancy Pelosi, 82. Paul Biya, 89; Cornelius Smith, 85. Chile's president is 36; Finland, 36. Age is an argument for the ignoramuses.

When Tinubu said it is his lifetime ambition to run for President, guess who the people are who started saying…” ohhh so it is about himself and not Nigeria…” Sometimes, you feel like oh my gosh when you read what they write. Bill Clinton visited the White House at age 16 as part of a school trip on July 24, 1963, and met former and late US President, John F. Kennedy. Clinton said that chance meeting and a few seconds handshake fired his imagination and made it a lifetime ambition for him to be the President of the USA in the future.

The question is, those that have not had ambition to become president in Nigeria and found themselves in office by accident, tell me, what has been their achievement. I hate criminal modesty and humility! How can having an ambition, which is a good thing suddenly become a burden to be used to disqualify a man from becoming President. Is ambition not supposed to be a propelling force to prepare a man for a task ahead in the future? Give me a man who has ambition and is ready anytime, and I would give him my vote. You all can go and beg people to be president.
Question is, Atiku who has been contesting for president for 30 years, what does he have? I guess it is not a lifelong ambition then.

Some went as far as writing to Chicago State University to ask if indeed Tinubu went to school. I like Oyinbo people, they don’t suffer fools gladly. They told them, Tinubu did not only attend our university, but he also graduated cuman cum laude, that is, he graduated first class and top of his class. A friend’s uncle who attended same university with Tinubu regaled us with stories when we visited him in Ibadan few years ago when Tinubu was Governor. He said Tinubu was so brilliant the University hired him to teach his classmates and was paying him salary. He even told us his nickname which was coined from Tinubu’s favourite meal at school at that time. Guess what, who is asking about Atiku’s academic credentials? Who is writing to ABU to find out if indeed Atiku has a Diploma in Law?
But my southern Nigerian people would not let us rest about Tinubu’s academic credentials, as if an Oyinbo man would employ anyone without prerequisite qualification to work with a foremost accounting/Management firm in the world, or one of the world major oil firms where he rose to become a Treasurer at Mobil. Atiku is not even as educated as Tinubu, yet you would never hear a northerner raise issues with Atiku about his education. Our too know go kill us one day!

How many men has Atiku raised as a leader? I know for sure he has raised men, but can you compare him to Tinubu in that regard? If you doubt me, scrutinise and list those who have gone through Tinubu’s political and leadership 'academy' and tell me raising leaders is not the hallmark of a great leader. Both PDP in the past and APC up till now are enjoying the services of those Tinubu raised politically.

It is the same people that would talk down on the economic achievement of Tinubu as Lagos Governor and in making sure that his successors stick to the development plan for Lagos. If you think it is a child’s play to turn the economy of a state to the 5th largest in Africa, try and run a business and let’s see. Read me well, Atiku does not have a clarity of thought when it comes to the management of the economy of this country. Tinubu’s thoughts on the economy and his plan are out there to read. The books he has written or co-authored are there to read. Show me that of Atiku. Let’s make this an issue-based matter. Enough of emotional vituperations that adds no value to our collective development as a people and as a nation.

Anytime the issue of democracy is raised, a lot of people suddenly develop memory loss. Who are the champions of the democracy we now enjoy today? Who are the people that were locked up for standing to the military junta? Was Atiku one of them?
Thank God, during his visit to Kwara State, Tinubu thanked the Emir of Ilorin who as a sitting Judge released Tinubu from Abacha’s detention and was able to escape into exile through the popular Cotonou route, and from there went abroad and was heavily financing NADECO. Prof. Wole Soyinka corroborated all of these. That is why I find it funny when they come up with, where did he get his money? Why did you not ask him that in the 90s when he was dolling out his personal funds to help pro-democracy groups against the military junta. Hardly would you see a northerner ask those questions of Atiku. Meanwhile, Tinubu’s wealth even before he became a Governor is well documented. Okay, Atiku retired from Custom…what next? And he became a billionaire. End of story.

Apart from his guber election before Obasanjo picked him to be VP, has Atiku ever won any other election? But folks won’t let us hear word about how Tinubu is unelectable. For a man who has dealt a big electoral blow against PDP back-to-back since 1999 and a final blow to their 16-year reign in 2015, it is such an insult.

E je ke farabale now...

©️ Kay Lord, 300522.

Good job at your attempt to launder your Man's image. I did not bother to read all your deceptive paragraphs or the insults contained therein, but a little feedback on one or two questions you asked is necessary.

I personally do not know the man, but his records as a public servant are in the public domain. The said records do not lend Tinubu as a man fit to be trusted with our national cohesion, commonwealth, and nationhood.

Suffice it to say that I will not go into the finer details of your spin. I will say this much though, you are a Nigerian, and your interest ought to be Nigeria. As a young person, and today, neither Tinubu nor Atiku represents the Nigeria of our future.

This is as simple and civilized as I can bring it across. And regarding northerners remaining mute about Atiku's shenanigans in public service, that is their prerogative. They do not owe anyone us the duty to raise their voices but we must also not become like them.

But we must also remember that it is their conspiracy of silence that brought their region to the den of terrorism that it has become, and the victims, for the most part, are themselves.

No female commentators so far.
Hmnn

hollandis:
In my last piece https://www.nairaland.com/7149555/used-staunch-supporter-now-dislike

I informed you that Peter obi is s coward
.

Today I want to throw my weight behind Tinubu .think we as Ibos should support him .I dislike how Kwankwaso betrayed wike .This is tribalism
Tinubu is not corrupt. My only problem is agberos in south west .

You are on your own!.

Esama:
I have been seeing a lot of people on this forum particularly igbo people claiming they are from ss after insult Yoruba people. You people should stop using our region to execute your evil.

Nobody betraying us in south we know our enemy as far as Nigeria is concerned don't expect our vote whether for peter obi or any fulani man.

Oga, please learn how to properly construct a sentence with the attendant punctuations, then try again.
Thank you.

successmatters:
That's why I think Tinubu should try again in 2031

Gbam!

Mikolo70:
The 250M security men saw with him at Lagos airport, na for safe keeping abi? Akidanidani!

Shame on you for lying against a man in this manner. Peter Obi clearly stated that money was a payment to Coscharis for Vehicles supplied to the Anambra state government.

Mr. Obi has never been indicted for any misconduct in Nigeria, in contrast to Tinubu who only escaped jail by coalescing with Buhari.

NSNA:
A Yoruba adage says -

"The ant that is eating the vegetable dwells under the vegetable"

Why do the Igbo people feel comfortable living amongst Yoruba states like their second home but show little to no loyalty towards the Yorubas?
Until this question is answered the Igbo will continue to be looked at with suspicion

Terms like Ewedu and Afonja are always used in a condescending manner by Igbos, a thing that other tribes don't do.
Why has the Igbo nation always voted against Yoruba's right from independence from Awolowo to Abiola

Why?

Nigeria is a federation and any citizen has the right to reside wherever they chose.
Yorubas live in Igbo land too and are not required to be loyal to Igbos.

In regards to your second question, Yoruba started the backstabbing, but Igbo will finish it at their own chosen time.

JagabanLagos:
The only politician in Nigeria who doesn’t live solely on income generated from politics. The man who knows what it means to build a successful business.

The only politician that campaign base on his achievement while in office.

Jagaban 2023 is a goal !!!

The problem with you Tinubu urchins is You Tu Lie.

Peter Obi refused all pension and gratuity at the end of his tenure as governor, Tinubu awarded a grandiose life pension including an Abuja house and 2 new bulletproof cars every 4 years to himself.

Tinubu continues to siphon Lagos and Osun states money until this minute, while Peter Obi has absolutely nothing to do with the Anambra state government.

helinues:
My records on NL indicate that I don't support potential losers

You obviously do.
And a drug addict.
Certificate forger.
And a man who has a voracious appetite to steal what does not belong to him alone.

I'm done here.

helinues:
Are you clean now? Yes or No

MY friend go and sleep.

Join me to work for a president we both deserve as Nigerians.
His name is Peter Gregory Obi.

helinues:
The sign is so clear . Hope you are clean now

Hahaha, e pain you abi?.
How you lots will accept to be ruled over by a person of questionable personality and character amazes me.

helinues:
You must have been one of his clients to have this details

WE do know him .

helinues:
Here we go with another Bunkum.

Same certificate he used to be Lagos governor

Wailers will always wail cos they are born to wail

"Same fake Certificates" obtained from Oluwole.
Tinubu was busy selling Gbana in Chicago while his mates went to school.

citizenY:
We are talking of parties that have produced presidents, governors, legislators, and not waka pass presidential candidates like Peter Obi. Serious stuff, not Nollyood film clips

No problem.
APC presidential primary will happen soon, and we are sure to see Tinubu under that big, fat bus.

Na so this man's presidency for be?.

seunmsg:
2011 is eleven years ago. You should look up the result of the 2019 presidential election and tell us how SE performed against the SW.

So, for 2019, the difference was -1.379.437.

The reason for the low turnout was clearly a reaction to Tinubu's 2015 betrayal of the south in hopes of having the presidency turned over to him in 2023.

The Southeasterners correctly felt there was no need to endanger their lives in the process of an election whose results have been pre-written. Yorubas voted massively in 2019 in support of Tinubu's call to do so. Yet, they were unable to cancel the Igbo votes of the previous two electoral cycles.

What you need to take away from this is that the votes you Yorubas claim have domiciled in the southwest are a figment of your collective imaginations.

Searching through INEC data, it is clear that there are indeed more votes to be had in SE than SW in a free and fairly contested election. That is even more so when you consider that Southeast citizens resident in the Southwest have their votes counted in those locations. How many Yorubas vote in the Southeast?.

And let's not talk of Southeast votes counted in the South-South, North Central, North East, and Northwest. So, there are more Igbo votes against Yoruba. And yes, the Igbo are more in number.


2011

Total votes cast (Southeast)

Abia 1.185.574
Anambra 1.153.904
Ebonyi 497.025
Enugu 808.763
Imo 1.406.289
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5.051.555


Total votes cast (Southwest)

Oyo 836.550
Osun 498.734
Ondo 480.260
Ogun 529.355
Lagos 1.907.815
Ekiti 306.161
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4.558.874

- 492.681


2019

Total votes cast (Southeast)

Imo 409.049
Anambra 1.039.775
Ebonyi 393.337
Enugu 585.632
Imo 731.921
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3.159.714


Total votes cast (Southwest)

Oyo 928.606
Osun 663.373
Ondo 582.435
Ogun 559.317
Lagos 1495.975
Ekiti 309.445
----------------
4.539.151

-1.379.437

Plausible deniability.

I was an unwilling candidate but had to step in to save Nigeria.
You all saw that I was in Italy on the day of the party's candidate screening.
What would it cost them to fly that aircraft to and from?.
Peanuts to their pockets.

Believe Nigeria politicians to your detriment.