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Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 3:50am On Dec 12, 2019 |
tony5:This generally depends on your city/state of residence, skills, language proficiency and your expertise. There are menial jobs almost everywhere if you can speak good German (B1 upward) There are professional related jobs too, but your location might determine the type, level of skills and experience you will need. On the cost of living, not minding wherever your location is, you sha should not be spending all of your monthly block fund ration. |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 3:48am On Dec 12, 2019 |
odimbannamdi: Universitats focus more on preparing you for research world while Hochschule prepares you more for the industry. If you can't picture yourself doing PhD or going into R & D after your MSc (immediately), I personally don't see how Universitats is better. You will still do all in both type of school though, just that emphasis differs. I really don't know jack about Supply Chain or its Analytics but if the program is similar to Business Informatics BSc people do in my alma mata, which is in the Faculty of Informatics, which is more like a Computer Science + Business. Where you pick job after graduation or during internship might be where the specialization comes in ... I guess same way Software Engineers generally can choose FinTech, HealthTech, Automobile Tech, InsurTech etc. base on interest. |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 3:45am On Dec 12, 2019 |
MarkGud: I don't have access to any web link right now but you can contact your school foreign office for updated info on the current stance (most likely still the same). You are free to PM me (if very personal) ... sharing here is quite better, information gets updated quite often in Germany. 1 Like |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 3:18pm On Dec 11, 2019 |
MarkGud: The issue with the bridge MSc I mentioned is that it might really require much of your time to learn a lot of things as fast as possible especially if you have ZERO programming experience before but people dey run am successfully, you might just have to reduce your falafolo and increase your focus to 110% ..else I will advise the BSc route. However, you can checkout these programs and if you need further clarification, just write the program coordinator, e nor dey hurt them, its their job. 1. https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/en/detail/5587/ 2. https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/en/detail/4775/#tab_detail 3. https://www2.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/en/detail/5587/#tab_detail The core growing tech ecosystem that I know are Munich, Berlin, Hamburg, Koln and Dusseldorf. There are jobs in other cities too but might be difficult to get if you are not really skilled and with good German. See, on paper Kiel is far to Berlin but in reality boys dey school dere dey run Internship/Working students in Berlin ... it is just a worthy price to pay for the experience and I have heard student semester ticket in NRW is quite good to navigate the state. I might not be able to suggest BSc courses for you but i think you can use these points to evaluate whichever you see. 1. What are the focus areas of the program, do they sound like what you want to do after study. 2. Is the program in the faculty of Computer Science/Informatics 3. What are the research groups present in the faculty, are the groups (Professors) working on something exciting to you. 4. Do the program offer compulsory internship (it helps if they also help with placement) 5. How many companies are the professors(faculty) working with and how interested are you in that intersection .. e.g a lot of Professors work with VW/BMW but not all are doing autonomous driving.. 6. If you have time, you can also profile their alumni to gauge their after school move.. you can do same for the Professors..to see, if they run their own company or institute (fact.. most do) 7. It will be a plus ..if a Nigerian is studying same course or have .. 9 Likes 5 Shares |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 2:55pm On Dec 11, 2019 |
Braket:I suggested counting out EE because even though very related, from friends that are studying it here: 1. The program is not under computer science or informatics faculty. 2. The few that I know are more of the hardware part of IT than the software part. 3. Most don't offer more than a module for core IT courses and they might even be the elective module. If you will agree with me, it is the software part (Software/Information Engineering, Data Science/Analytics/Engineering, Design etc. ) of IT that is HOT all over the world. If you are wondering about what this means, the three points I mentioned determines the type of faculty members(Professors) the program will have (access to), which determines the type of research(group) they have, which determines the type of companies they are collaborating with and thereby determines what they will teach you as well as how they will teach. Can also determines the type of jobs you will be exposed to and might get during and after your study. e.g a senior lecturer (not even a Prof.) taking a Big Data course, after a class said he is looking for interns for a project (which his company his working on), many people applied and he took-in not less than 10 and the number reduces along the line and I know not less than 2 that continue to work with him in full time capacity after graduation. So, you also have to play the game of possible availability of opportunity and that was why I also mentioned applied science schools earlier. For a foreign student, ways to gather work experience while studying that I know about are: Internships, Research Assistants (or Tutoring), Research Placements, Working Student and short-term professional work. Each with different requirements (skill and expertise). You do not really need to be in the big cities, just that the proximity might helps in nailing down the aforementioned experiences, especially if your German language is not yet smooth. The good thing (from my experience), no employer discriminates against schools so far you have what it takes to do whatever they need you for. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 11:54am On Dec 11, 2019 |
Tavict:Two weeks is not too much for them to attempt processing your admission. If any, only few people get admission letter just after two weeks of applying. Upload your EPL and send it across to them via post (I guess you sent the previous document by post too) and mention your application number or other unique identifier you have. |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 11:39am On Dec 11, 2019 |
MarkGud: You have 10 years to study as a foreign student in Germany the last time I checked. A BSc will take you an average of 2.5 - 4 years (pretty sure you won't be doing studienkolleig), Unless you have already used 3 years to study MSc and still want to do PhD, so most time, people still have enough time. If you have the grit, you can even finish earlier ...and if the BSc is even IT, you will gather enough work experience before you graduate to make smooth transition into the main employment market. Personally, the only con I know is the "shame" attached, that is if you care though.. The issue here is our mentality, you left Nigeria for MSc, completed or half way done ...only to now switch to another BSc. .. you sef reason am.. how e go sound for ear? how you go take table am for friends/families back at home(in NG)? but the reality is, your life is your life, every other thing/body will follow you as soon as you take any decision. Switching, terminating or pausing programs is kinda new to our culture as it looks like failure but I know of non-Nigerians, Germans that have done each of the three. If you are making a switch to IT.. you should prioritize applied science schools though.. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 10:18am On Dec 11, 2019 |
Blake250: Going by the dates you stated, they should be for next Winter admission and not for Summer ... which means the ones on Uni-Assist now are those of Summer admission only ...reason why they are not there (YET). You will have to wait until when the schools open for Winter admission or get those that are opened already for summer admission. |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 8:15am On Dec 11, 2019 |
Goztino: The insight you have managed to gathered in just your less than three months is what the person in the link at the end of your post arguably missed during his days in DE. I know it is not easy to make sharp decisions like this one you are about to make but regardless of what the counselor will tell you (he or she will most likely advise from a German perspective), you have already discovered your truth, just GO FOR IT. The advise I personally give to people (new students) nowadays is, if you are not studying anything related to "Informatics", just make sure you get to at least B2 or B1 level before you graduate, to even stand a chance unless your plan is PhD or to move to another country. I have more than enough friends that are doing or have done second MSc. Because your most important skill in Germany is the language, just that it is less important for IT jobs (not that it is not). My few advise here (personal opinion though): 1. if age is still on your side (maybe < 25yrs), go for the BSc, the process is largely the the same as stated by the schools you are going (just that Visa hustle is out of it.) If you consider age to not really be on your side, with the evolution of Industry 4.0 - a fusion of informatics to other (engineering) areas, which is a very big topic in Germany. You might be able to get a MSc program that fuses both your Engineering/Geo with IT .. and you learn along (might be tough but also worth it). If you put in the work, you can still nail at least an IT entry role after your study. A former colleague (A Medical Dr.), we met at a Health-Tech company, took the Medical Informatics MSc in Deggendorf and still works as a Data Scientist there. I (Chemical Engineer) even though with previous experience as a Software Engineer in NG before coming to DE had to switch to IT related program(Digital Engineering MSc) - after 'investing' two semesters studying MSc Chemical Engr. before "my eye open" which has now led me to IT positions in few of the biggest firms in DE .. during and after my study. So, if you search very well, you might be able to get something along that line as a lot of such programs are popping up and if you take/have online IT tutorials and certifications (programming, data analysis etc.) that can aid your application. 2. I saw that you mentioned Electrical and Electronics Engineering as option... biko, I am begging you to not consider that at all (it is largely same same...) ..if you are going to make the switch... kuku ma go Informatics straight o.. unless you have it in mind to have your B2 before you finish your program. 3. When you are choosing your school, if possible prioritize the one(s) in or closer to states/cities with growing startup ecosystem .. they have more low hanging entries than where you have more of the big German coys. (not really sure about your insinuation about this part but..) Permanent Residency is a function of your contributions: tax, social, welfare etc. to the system and because if you are earning enough to get a Blue Card, that contributions will be better and faster and that is why you can get your PR faster with Blue Card than someone holding the normal residence. Also, the earning requirement for Blue Card is not the same across all profession e.g for IT is about 53k or so while for Scientist/Researchers is about 40k and for IT .. you will need about 3 yrs working experience to earn up to that (personal evaluation though). Best wishes in whatever conclusion you arrive at. 15 Likes 5 Shares |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 9:01am On Dec 09, 2019 |
I don't know how often this need to be said .. 1. No one has the ability to make admission or visa decisions here ... 2. No one will search for schools for you. 3. No sure odds (it is not Bet9Ja)... you can only try and leverage experience of those that have tried before you. These sort of questions does nothing but litters this thread and make it even more difficult for new joiners to get arguably more important answers just as it discourages those already in Deutschland to create time to make more contributions. This is the reason why new joiners are generally advised to go through the thread from the beginning (even previous parts).. There is 95% chance that the answers to your questions is already there somewhere in the thread, as they are arguably not new. Please don't be too lazy to do the needful yourself ... 9 Likes |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 8:42am On Dec 09, 2019 |
PattyMike: ON THE INITIAL QUOTED POST Earning 450 Euro per month should be sufficient to keep you up (Housing - 250, Insurance - 110, Feeding - 90), if you are in normal German cities and not the advanced ones (Berlin, Hamburg,Frankfurt, Munich, Stuttgart etc.) and of course it also depends on preferences e.g someone that will eat out most times cannot live on 90 Euro for a month (anywhere I will say.) There will be months where you will get those menial jobs and there will be month where you won't get any, it is not a given. Imagine, if you have gone three months without a job (menial or not) and the one that shows up next falls during your exam months .. will you take it and hustle it with exams? or you drop it and hope that you will get another or maybe go five months with a job? Regardless of whether the job is menial or something that has to do with your professional career. E.g I know those that cancelled semester(s) just because they want to go for internship/work, especially if it has to be in another city or state. Don't forget that getting a job is not a given (full time or not, menial or not), you have to seek and earn it (it is easier to say that I will only work full time during the semester break than anything .. ) This is the type of scenario that plays out in reality and why people often say combining study (relatively hard on its own) with work is very hard and as you can guess, people will make different decisions when they are face with similar scenario "as wetin dey pursue us different". ON YOUR POST There are jobs everywhere in Germany as much as there are no jobs everywhere... the questions are, are you qualified for the ones that are available (skills: language, previous working experience, ability.) in the area? . On German women (not sure I have the range on this though.), they are not so different only that we have different culture which means how we generally view things. e.g relationships (work, friendship, romantic etc.) is not the same just like it is different for both Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo. Independent living is a way of life around here whereas in Nigeria it is more of a community living (where you know everyone on your street and they do same..lol.. here, you might not even KNOW people in your flat/building). If you are interested in crossing that bridge, you will need to unlearn, learn and relearn appropriately when the time comes. In summary: 1. Regardless of whatever anybody will tell you here or somewhere else, how well you are going to enjoy Germany during or after your studies really depends mostly on how fast and well you are able to improve your GERMAN PROFICIENCY. Your previous working or living experience, your abilities and professional skills and also, whatever made you leave Nigeria. 2. The best thing (after God) that can happen to anybody moving to any of the cities directly from Nigeria, is to have and know people you can trust 99.8% on ground who can give and explain the realities to you before concluding on choosing any of the cities. The reason is that, the dynamics (work-type availability, visa renewal requirements, studying in the city, flexibility etc) is not entirely the same for each state/city even though there are similar education standards obtainable everywhere. Trust me, the experience of a Nigerian study in Berlin is not the same as that studying in Wernigorode or Kassel. 3. Whether you have/get No. 2. or not, you still need to adapt every info that you get (even the ones here) to your personal situation. E.g If you are married with kids in Nigeria and you are soaking in advise like that without proper evaluation from someone who is single and they are still sending money from Nigeria.. OYO oo because the fact is, your realities are not 100% the same. We all don't have the same experience, skills and abilities. This might be weird but as you come in, try as much as possible to get in touch with (if any) fellow Nigerians (that you can trust one another) and form a relationship with those that you are sure you have similar objectives or from similar "background". The Nigerian community is still relatively minute in Germany compare to other nationalities (my observation) and also varies from one city to another, and trying to figure out everything, getting all information, all by yourself might just literally kill you. 4. I know it is easy to cast the blame that Nigerians are terrible blah blah blah, poor at accommodating others, always hiding information, selfish etc.. when you sef land and you face the realities on ground ..you can choose to do as it pleases you.. we are all product of our experiences , I can only wish you nothing but that you only have good ones. 5. This might look funny, You cannot do every available menial jobs oo ... forget the 'pseudo' hustling spirit you think you have in Nigeria, menial job here is HARD (physically and mentally).. so please know your limit o, don't come and kill yourself in Deutschland and please again, don't think you can work hard like Germans or other Europeans.. just make sure you are always putting in your best (at least until you properly fit in) and again, PLEASE KNOW YOUR LIMIT. 6. Heheh .. you can't really save your BA o, like you want that 8 or 10k to still remain like that? ...(I am not saying it is impossible o but but... ) chai.. this is getting longer than I wanted ... Regardless, Germany is a great land, the question is, are you ready for what is about to hit you ? 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 9:57am On Nov 30, 2019 |
FreshGuy2: I think the same condition holds and you should be at advantage since you have additional post-high-school knowledge on the core subjects, just that you will need more effort on the language part. I know few Nigerians that have gone through it successfully (those on this forum that have gone through same will be in the best position at this point ) and I do know a non-nigerian that did not and had to leave Deutschland. so, just like any exam/school...some will pass, some will fail... |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 6:21pm On Nov 29, 2019 |
FreshGuy2: I am not sure about the "test" you are referring to here but if it is about your actual program in Germany. In my own opinion, whatever your definition of "easy" is in Nigerian context just multiply it by 1.5 to at least be on the safer side. |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 6:23am On Nov 29, 2019 |
cephap:I think this will depend on the language school as well as the structure of classes (Intensive or not). B2 is level 4 of the language framework and the fastest I have seen for a level is 4 weeks (Intensive) in Germany. It should therefore be can be about 5 - 7 months and if not intensive, it will obviously take longer months. Going by Goethe Institute in Lagos, it should take about a year. |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 9:08pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
cephap:Thanks for the clarification. |
Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In Germany..how Do You Survive?? by 0yewale(m): 7:04pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
awo666: Education (read Research) is generally is intensive (demanding) in Germany, so don't expect PhD to be "easy". 1. The prospect/process of settling down afterwards is similar to that of BSc/MSc students - finish your degree, get a job or get the 18 months employment seeking visa. .. Get your permanent residence after meeting the specified conditions (you can search for the conditions online) 2. PhD work permit is a bit different, in that you get full working permit as against that of MSc/BSc students which is very limited. Therefore, if a PhD student can get a job (with sufficient social contributions) during his/her study, then it should count towards getting a permanent residence after concluding the study. 3. I should add that not all research funding, research/graduate assistant jobs, grants or scholarships has social contributions included in their structure, so if you manage to get a PhD admission and get any of these ... be 100% sure about what you are getting (person wey dey ask question no dey miss road o) PS:: I am not a PhD student, I just happened to have heard these info from few people who are. 2 Likes |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 6:50pm On Nov 28, 2019 |
FreshGuy2: OND or HND is not a recognized degree class in Germany (as far as I know), so you will have to start afresh from BSc. -- You can use your OND to get admission in Nigeria Uni, do your first year and use that (transcript) to process a BSc admission in Germany -- You can as well just forget it (OND) as go through the plain route for BSc admission (studienkolleg) |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 10:15am On Nov 27, 2019 |
Yes, you can. sirtonyobi: |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 1:35pm On Nov 26, 2019 |
"I am hearing that Nigerians are involved" yHen Yhen yHEn .. To those of you presently out of Nigeria saying that, I hope if you are called upon to come and explain where "you are hearing from", I hope you have where to point to. Never forget, whatever you write here, you are "writing to the whole world".. ...no form of identification of the thieves revealed yet by almost all media outlets but you are the one hearing.. oshey eeyan many sauces. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 10:26pm On Nov 23, 2019 |
I am not really sure that was best way to convey a (seemingly advisory) message, that is more of a personal experience, opinion instead of factual statements. (Like Op really made it sound initially, as if there was a reported outbreak/effect kinda in the country about some foods). The core message I can deduce, is that people coming into the country need to be more aware of their own body system, status and how it works especially as regards allergies - all forms (drugs, foods, weather conditions) which I will assume most of us in/from Nigeria don't really care about or pay attention to .e.g Lactose tolerance for Milk. Some might learn and discovered this, here, through the hard way (maybe this is what Op really meant) but that has nothing to with the food being bad but largely ignorance. Not like one can survive forever in Germany without eating German foods ...so ... not like there are even so much "original" German foods to start with 3 Likes |
Travel / Re: General German Student Visa Enquiries Part 7 by 0yewale(m): 11:11pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
Ligogu: Yes, the rule really do take effect. Arguably, no employer will give you a contract or allow you work beyond the specified total annual working hours. If you manage to work beyond those hours without getting approval from the respective office before doing so, when the gbege happen, I don't know what the penalty will look like. Point of correction: I think it is actually 120 full days and 240 half days (That is what I have on my own permit unless it has been increased recently or different from one cities to another.) 1 Like |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 3 by 0yewale(m): 8:39am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Obviously, I think that is what they are asking you to present, get as many as appointment letters (if you have done more than one job), scan the copies and send to them first via email (to probably remove any sort of delay) notifying that you have also sent the hard copy via courier service. deleomo99: |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 3 by 0yewale(m): 10:18pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
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Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 3 by 0yewale(m): 1:38pm On Aug 09, 2016 |
Allisonrichy: at the amateur football level you can combine both depending on the team, the city and your MSc programme choice... for professional football i cannot say much.. |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 3 by 0yewale(m): 5:29am On Apr 22, 2016 |
I think that means the travelling date you will specify in your health insurance should be at least 30th of April, assuming you are dropping your envelope at the embassy today. About Wakanow, you can book and pay online yourself with your naira debit cards at (wakanow.com), print-out your ticket that will be send across to your email. I think both airline are okay even though i have only used Turkish before and i think the little difference in their pricing and the stop-over duration should help you in choosing between the two. Congrats! BlessedSamson: 1 Like |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 3:18pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
chrisley024: Yes you will need it ..I used it when i did my own application and those before me did the same.. 1 Like |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 10:00pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
dprinz99: i am vividly following the news both here and in the media.. hoping the best |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 9:00pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
dprinz99: alright then.. not yet.. still trying to sort out the money issh.. |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 5:10pm On Feb 18, 2016 |
dprinz99: If you can remember me, we had the interview together that same day and i think i have been in almost (if not the same) similar situation before. Your best bet, is for you to ask your school if they can defer the admission for you and give you a fresh admission letter that will reflect that of winter. You can then forward this new admission letter to the embassy and you might add the reason behind the update in the mail (optional though). The embassy will then schedule you for another interview (as it was in my own case.) I believe this will save you the overall stress of having to go through the admission issue over again, but i don't think the embassy will contact you.. All the best |
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Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 10:39am On Sep 30, 2015 |
Dam12:drop or pm your email address , i can share one with you |
Travel / Re: General German Visa Enquiries Part 2 by 0yewale(m): 11:09am On Sep 10, 2015 |
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