PhysicsQED:
Are Turkish Muslims as violent (with regard to religiously motivated violence) or as prone to Islamist terrorism as some other Muslim nations around the world? I don't think so. My point is that the culture (such as European enlightenment culture vs. rigid, ascetic Middle Eastern cultures) is what is most relevant to how a religion is being practiced in 2012.

Sagamite:

Islamic dictates are specifically supressed in Turkey for over 80 years by government-enforced secularity.

Unlike most other countries, a mad cleric cannot be running a belligerent mosque or going to mosques and giving hate speeches unchallenged in Turkey.

The current president was even initially blocked by the Constitutional Court from participating in presidential elections purely because of his Islamic views and his wife wearing a hijab.

Even the Trukish army is carefully scrutinized and ensured is led by secularists.

That suppression, in combination with Islam being the primary and unchallenged religion in Turkey, is the core reason why Turkish Muslims are less-to-none violent.

That does not say little cases of islamic violence does not occur in Turkey:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Santoro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirve_Publishing_House_massacre

Now that Islamists have won electoral power, people are a bit concerned about this. So far, the leaders have been moderate islamists (with eagle eyes on them), that does not mean future ones would also be.

Katsumoto:

Many folks do not even know that Kemal Ataturk designed Turkish secularity so as to dissociate the new republic from its barbaric ottoman past.

Sagamite:
person, person counts as a label for those with limited to no thinking faculty/functions.

F00028:

tut, tut, tut, sagamite what did I just say?

HINT: "no, sagamite and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal."


if they cant grow your a brain isnt there some medication your can take?

cheddarking: Goddamn...

I always know shymmex was intellectually bankrupt, but his posts on this thread REALLY should be preserved for all eternity as the thought process of a classic fool.

How can anyone be this STUP1D?

Goddamn....

Sagamite:

The fooool does not know how the medieval times is (sic) utterly different to (sic) the modern times especially post-globalisation.

shymexx: Sagamite

When are you going to answer my question??

F00028:

hey fucktardamite! yes you.

is this supposed to be some intellectual insight? hope you didn't over stress both sides of your small brain

cheddarking: Do you worship My God? No? You Must Die.

Oh You worship my God? Do you worship him My way? No? You must die.

Sagamite:
When we are clear you have been treated from your fucktardic escapism and realise putting up another person's work and pass it off as yours is shymexxing plagiarism.

Sagamite:

In the world of madrassa-educated fucktards like F00028 (person No. 28), that is provocation so the killing was justified.

shymexx:

Please, answer my questions!!!

shymexx:

We'll talk about that on another thread...

This thread is about religion, stop trying to change the topic...

Please, answer my questions!!!

24hours is enough to get a proof to back up your claims on the internet, dolt... bwahahahahahaha

SHYMMEX = SAGAMITE KILLER!!!

F00028:

yeah, madrassa EDUCATED! something you dont know anything about. plus we got androids with data plans so you wont be able to get away with much anymore.



answer the question, f_u.ck re.tard

shymexx:

Rich, coming a guy who didn't know England is a country...... Bwahahahaha

And you stay biting my style...

You can only try, but you can never be shymmex...

shymexx:

Where is the reward for virgins written in the Qu'ran?

Can you provide an evidence to back up your claims?

Sagamite:

Madrassa person, you are not in a position to ask me questions too.

I don't negotiate with terrorists.

F00028:

imbécil! you negotiate with people that want something from you! :-/

I bet you just heard that line in a movie and have been dying to use it.

and it's not my question it's shymexx'. answer it.

F00028: You christians that think this soyinka spoke for you keep in mind he also said:

History matters. Records are not kept simply to assist the weakness of memory, but to operate as guides to the future...

Now why do you expect any rational person to overlook the fact Christianity, is a religion who adherents have given this world so much bloodshed, destruction and plunder (under whatever guise)?

I challenge anybody prove different.

(facts and figures please)

no, sagamite and other ignorant buffoons need not answer because screaming “person!” wont count as a rebuttal.

ekt_bear: Does high bosom = small chest?

If so, does the Koran have provisions for big-breasted virgins with nice azz too?

And hopefully the girls aren't fugly either...it would suck to blow yourself up in the name of Islam, then receive 77 chicks you aren't even attracted to

cheddarking:

I just tire for them...

The Koran actually promises Baywatch Chicks complete with Bikini and maybe your own everlasting theme song if you're really good...

ekt_bear: Does high bosom = small chest?

If so, does the Koran have provisions for big-breasted virgins with nice azz too?

And hopefully the girls aren't fugly either...it would suck to blow yourself up in the name of Islam, then receive 77 chicks you aren't even attracted to

ekt_bear:

Please find a verse promising 0rgies with said baywatch chicks in heaven. If so, then I will convert to islam myself and go kill some christians or hindus

Me + Gabrielle Union + Meagan Good?

Allahu Akbar!!!

F00028:

duh...those verses be describing how muslims be chillin' in heaven. I ain't seen nuthin about no 77 VIRGINS AS A REWARD FOR DYING A VIOLENT DEATH.

did you?

(QURAN 56:37-40): "...We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand…."

(QURAN 78:31-34): "As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup."

shymexx:

^^^^Where did it say that terrorist would be entitled to 77 virgins by blowing themselves up??

Do you even understand basic English??

cheddarking:

Its relative bruv...

The Koran describes the reward for the righteous here:

QURAN 78:31-34: "As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup."

And then explains who the righteous are HERE:

QURAN 9:123:"O you who believe, fight those of the unbelievers near you and let them see how harsh you can be. Know that Allah is with the righteous."

shymexx: These ignorant pseudo-intellectuals stay messing up my IQ... One don't understand basic English, while the other is a lousy stonker...

Go debate hillbillies in your league...