dotcomnamename:



Calm down, relax, sit down and coll down yourself, have a breath, read the refusal letter carefully again, read it again and again and try to figure out the embassy reason for refusal. Go ahead with your Irish Student Visa, add more documents if possible. I still believe that the Irish Embassy will still issue you the visa, provided that you make the correction. Going from one embassy to another may cause you confusion, and might even think of something else for the reason you were refused visa by Irish, so go ahead with it, at least you still have chance!

What are the documents you submitted at first?

VicGoodGuy:


Forgive me if I'm wrong, but is he not entitled for a visa by virtue of his being married to a citizen? Irrespective of his being employed or not? has he tried applying for a visa and was refused ma'am?

dotcomnamename:


You'r every funny .. You think it's easy like that? If it's easy the way you stated, you won't see any such applicant still asking different means to get visa for such status.

Ireland immigration system is one of the tough immigration systems
If your wife is Irish it does not mean you will be granted Spouse visa.
I've seen many people deported to 9ja from here all in the name of getting married legally to Irish Citizen... though by their law and Eu law, they should grant it, but at times they apply personal opinion instead of the law

As at now, the fair one is by Zambrano application which means if your child was born here and have the Irish passport, then you can be considered base on Zambrano ruled by the (ECJ).-European Court of Justice

MickinAbuja:


I do not think that VO's apply their personal opinion because if they did the decisions would be overturned through Judicial Review. Sometimes the criteria is not clear to applicants and they have the chance at appeal to clear up any misconceptions, errors and submit extra information, evidence etc. that they may have left out in the application process, through no fault of their own

dotcomnamename:


MickinAbuja,

Some of them do apply personal opinion, infarct lot of them do that and it is not new at all. I'm hearing it from you for the first time that they don't apply personal opinion. I can see Abuja on your name or are you an IrishVisaOfficer in Abuja? . Lot of cases won through oral hearing where applicants representatives proved to courts that decisions was based on personal opinion of the V.officers. My first Irish visa application was refused and i was not given right of appeal. I made a very crazy step, I sent a petition directly to the ambassador, i enclosed my original passport back to the embassy that I don't even need it any more, and i explained in the petition letter that the visa officer's decision was purely based on his personal opinion and bias. But to be sincere i actually took the risk knowing fully well that i may be banned for sending original passport with petition back. This is a case where i met all the required documents one by one even more than the documents they required coupled with the fact that i already have different visas. After few weeks, i received an email to forward a return DHL or UPS envelope within 48 hours, i couldn't get DHL and UPS then, so i used TNT, i received the envelope through TNT in Lagos and the first thing i saw was a Letter of Apology signed by the Assistant to the Ambassador and they issued me a 3 month Irish visa. I visited Dublin then and i spent only 8 days. After then it was renewed to another 3 months. So, that apology letter always look like gold to me and so i always include it in any of my visa application then, though it means nothing to any visa officer. .. My point here is, if you meet visa requirements and you're still refused the visa, i think its not a bad idea to challenge the decision even though issuing you the visa is not your right but privilege. But still, its good to challenge some visa decisions. They're not always right. However, fingers are not equal. I suspect you're a VisaOfficer?

MickinAbuja:


First of all, and lets be clear - I am not a Visa Officer, nor do I know any Visa Officers in any Embassy. What I do know is people that work with me have savage trouble in getting the whole visa process right to UK, EU and Ireland even China and Japan. Also, and correct me if I am wrong, in the Irish, UK and other EU and US Embassies the Ambassador has nothing to with Visas - the visa office is staffed by Dept of Justice/State/Home Office Officials from their countries, whereas the Embassy is staffed by Foreign Office staff, who would find visa issuance beneath them. I can only assume that your petition, once it was seen as a visa matter was given to the appeals officer and he/she treated it as an appeal. I wouldn't think ambassadors would be bothered about individual visa cases, but I could be wrong. I have seen UK, Irish, EU and US visa refusal letters and the Irish and UK give proper reasons for refusal, ones that can be challenged on appeal. Maybe I'm an optimist but I would hope that VO's from all countries would be rules bound rather than opinion based

I do admire the advice you give and it has helped co-workers of mine in their applications

Vicjustice:

It is not a requirement to make flight itinerary, and as a student visa applicant, other itineraries are not necessary for you. Do not make the mistake of booking a flight before your visa is issued, your money would be forfeited if your visa is refused.
It is also unnecessary to bring the "family friend" into the picture, he will be useless in this situation unless he is the one accommodating you

eniboi:



@ VICJUSTICE


Good day Sir,
M eniola by name I am from nigeria , I saw your thread . I need your help and guide on how to package my application. My Dad,Mum and 2 siblings are irish citizen living in ireland , but our last born his irish citizen by birth . I am the first born I stayed in Nigeria my Dad want me to come for a family visit to ireland , so Sir I want you to put me through on the requirements I will need.

kunle75:
Hello Sirs/Ma`s

I am a first time traveller i intend to travel to IRELAND with my wife,and we are both first time callers,please i will like to know the do`s and the Dont of someone like us who is going out of the country for the first time.

1.what and what we need to have handy with us during our departure and and arrival in Dublin.

2.How much cash are we allowed to carry by law during departure

thanks as i await your favorable reply.

ekpotek:


Do both of you have an Irish visa?

kunle75:


yes sir.

ekpotek:
Hi all,

I am new to this thread. My spouse is a British Citizen by birth. However, she had lived all her life in Nigeria from infancy. She just recently collected her British passport after a 2 years long battle with the home office. Her British passport bears her married names (my names). We are planing to relocate to the UK. However, considering the financial requirement for the UK spouse visa (£18,600), which she cannot meet immediately, we are thinking of going to Ireland for 5 months to perform The Surinder Singh route (This is a method for British citizens to secure UK immigration rights for their non-European spouses). Are there Nigerian in Ireland using this route to the UK? How can I package a successful visa application for us travel together to Ireland. I currently have valid visas to UK (2 years), US (2 years) and German and Swiss Schengen (1 year). I will appreciate contribution and suggestion from the Ireland guys.

kunle75:
Hello Sirs/Ma`s

I am a first time traveller i intend to travel to IRELAND with my wife,and we are both first time callers,please i will like to know the do`s and the Dont of someone like us who is going out of the country for the first time.

1.what and what we need to have handy with us during our departure and and arrival in Dublin.

2.How much cash are we allowed to carry by law during departure

thanks as i await your favorable reply.

dotcomnamename:


Oga kunle, the cold don start already O! Make you carry better jacket O!

ekpotek:


1. The legal tender in Republic of Ireland is the euro. Winter is approaching so you will need warm cloths to survive the weather. If you're going to stay with friend, you can carry some foodstuffs.

2. By law you can carry an amount less than $10000. If you plan to carry more than $10000 you will need to declare it to custom at point of departure. I will advise that carry maybe 1000 euro in cash and the rest on you master/visa card.

dotcomnamename:





Was asked about this same question when i went to Dublin few days ago...

Under EU Directive 2004/38, there are very limited circumstances whereby a host Member State can lawfully refuse a visa and residence card to the immediate family members of an EU citizen exercising their free movement rights.

The UK has implemented the Surinder Singh principle at Regulations 9 of the Immigration (EEA) Regulations 2006 , which prescribes the following conditions:

>The EU citizen is residing in an EEA State as a worker or self-employed person or was so residing before returning to the United Kingdom;

>If the family member of EU citizen is a spouse or civil partner, the parties are living together in the EEA State or had entered into the marriage or civil partnership and were living together in the EEA State before the British citizen returned to the United Kingdom;

>The centre of the EU citizen’s life has transferred to the EEA State where the EU citizen resided as a worker or self-employed person.

It is evident therefore that the UK citizen must move “the centre of their life” to Ireland, prior to returning to the UK in order to successfully invoke their EU Treaty Rights.


Meanwhile,

· A 3 month residence period is necessary;

· Holidaying or weekend visits do not qualify for the purposes of calculating the residence period;

· Any union citizen, not just workers or the self employed may benefit from the principle;

· During the required period of residence family life must have been ‘created or strengthened’;

· Abuse of the principle will not be allowed or tolerated.


I hope this answered your question? However, you may wish to contact Vicjustice and Justwise for more clarification about this. They know better.

kunle75:


Thanks for the info sir,i just want to be sure that there is no minimum amount to which one can move with except for th maximum which is 10k.


Thanks

lifeofbright:
hello am from Ghana and am moving to turkey next week on a 3 months turkish visa
i would like to know if its possible to apply for Ireland visa in turkey with my documents?

azoo:
Please does anyone know how long it takes to get an Irish study visa?? Urgent answer needed. thanks in advance.