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| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 8:19am On Oct 16, 2012 |
uj-sizzle: Content: 3.75 points Presentation style/delivery:4 points Grammatical correctness:3.75 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 3.75 points Sound Reasoning: 3.75 points Logical Development of Argument:4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total = 31 points candygosh: Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness:3.75 points Sentence construction: 3.75 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 3.75 points Logical Development of Argument:3.5 points Effective Conclusion:4 points Total = 30.75 points MRbrownJAY: Content: 4.5 points Presentation style/delivery:4 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument:4.5 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total = 33 points Mrs..Chima: Content: 3.75 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4.5 points Sentence construction: 4.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 3.75 points Logical Development of Argument:4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total = 32.5 points dont8: Content: 3.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 2 points Grammatical correctness:4 points Sentence construction: 3 points Clarity/Fluency: 3.75 points Sound Reasoning: 2.5 points Logical Development of Argument: 2 points Effective Conclusion: 2.75 points Total = 23.5 points ayobase: Content: 3.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 3.5 points Effective Conclusion: 2.5 points Total = 29.5 points |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by greedie1(f): 8:49am On Oct 16, 2012 |
FINAL ROUND Mrbrownjay Content: 4.3 Presentation style/ delivery: 4.6 Grammatical correectness: 4.6 Sentence construction: 4.6 Clarity/ fluency: 5 Sound reasoning: 4.6 Logical development: 4.3 Effective conclusion: 3.6 Total: 35.6 Uj-sizzle Content: 4 Presentation style/ delivery: 4.3 Grammatical correectness: 4 Sentence construction: 4 Clarity/ fluency: 4.6 Sound reasoning: 5 Logical development: 3.6 Effective conclusion: 3.6 Total: 33.1 Dont8 Content: 2.6 Presentation style/ delivery: 2.3 Grammatical correectness: 3 Sentence construction: 3 Clarity/ fluency: 3 Sound reasoning: 3 Logical development: 2.3 Effective conclusion: 1.3 Total: 20.5 Candygosh Content: 2.6 Presentation style/ delivery: 3 Grammatical correectness: 3.3 Sentence construction: 3.3 Clarity/ fluency: 2.6 Sound reasoning: 3 Logical development: 3 Effective conclusion: 2.6 Total: 23.4 Ayobase Content: 3.6 Presentation style/ delivery: 4 Grammatical correectness: 4 Sentence construction: 4 Clarity/ fluency: 4.3 Sound reasoning: 4 Logical development: 4 Effective conclusion: 3 Total; 30.9 Mrs.Chima Content: 3 Presentation style/ delivery: 3.6 Grammatical correectness: 3.3 Sentence construction: 3.6 Clarity/ fluency: 4 Sound reasoning: 3.3 Logical development: 2.6 Effective conclusion: 4 Total: 26.4 |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 8:55am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Excuse me judge Shollypopz, my score should be 31 not 33. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by ijebabe: 9:07am On Oct 16, 2012 |
FINAL ROUND SCORES MRbrownJAY Content: 4.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4.5 points Sentence construction: 4.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 4.5 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4.5 points Effective Conclusion: 4.5 points Total score: 35 Ayobase Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 3.5 point Logical Development of Argument: 3.5 point Effective Conclusion: 4 point Total score: 31 Dont8 Content: 3 points Presentation style/delivery: 3 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 3.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 3.5 points Sound Reasoning: 3 points Logical Development of Argument: 3 points Effective Conclusion: 3 points Total score: 26 Mrs. Chima Content: 4.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4.5 points Sentence construction: 4.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 4.5 points Sound Reasoning: 4.5 points Logical Development of Argument: 4.5 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 35 candygosh Content: 3.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 3 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 3.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 3.5 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 29.5 uj_sizzle Content: 4.5 points Presentation style/delivery: 4.5 points Grammatical correctness: 4.5 points Sentence construction: 4.5 points Clarity/Fluency: 4.5 points Sound Reasoning: 4.5 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4.5 points Total score: 35.5 A really tough round and I must say the best in my opinion! Good job guys  |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 9:12am On Oct 16, 2012 |
uj_sizzle: Excuse me judge Shollypopz, my score should be 31 not 33.I quoted my earlier post to get you guys names. I must hv mixed d number up.  |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Lolaabokoku(f): 10:16am On Oct 16, 2012 |
aplology to evry 1.. 4 not login in all dis yl i was hospitalised but now am back and better!!! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by dont8(m): 11:10am On Oct 16, 2012 |
Good morning Mr.Moderator, Panel of Judges, My wonderful teammates (Ayobase, MBJ and Bennyraz), My opposing team and Fellow NLanders. It was unfortunate my argument to counter this writeup wiped off, but I'll summarize what I wrote earlier. am not here to respond to that cliche as my team mate mrs chima has done justice to that. So I would be addressing the ship issue. I wasn't in titanic so I couldn't have been able to tell if it was only a captain that sailed the ship. But one thing am sure of is, a big and large ship such as titanic would never have been sailed or controlled by just one captain. I believe that if a ship has two captains it will row to safety and not capsize and hit a brickwall as you have stated . Why  Where one captain sails a ship and encounters any difficulty he might not know how to attend to such situation but when they are two, one captain uses the others experience and TOGETHER they sail the ship safely through the storms and obstructions.Afterall as they say "two heads are better than one" For your information, ship has only one captain and co-captain, all other crew-members are subordinate to the captain. The man is the captain while the woman is co-captain. I wouldn't want to delve so much into the bible says and all that but I want to enlighthen us that 1 corinthians 11: 9 &10 says Neither was the man created for the woman ; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. I want to bring to your notice that it didn't say that the man had power over the woman's head. I must reserve my comment here, because this where you misunderstood my point. this is not actually true but how does one even determines a woman excessiveness I would say that you are being judgemental by not facing the real facts. Here is a thesaurus definition of excessiveness Synonyms: excessive, exorbitant, extravagant, immoderate, inordinate, extreme, unreasonable These adjectives mean exceeding a normal, usual, reasonable, or proper limit. Excessive describes a quantity, amount, or degree that is more than what is justifiable, tolerable, or desirable I would like to ask when does a woman exceed her normal limit? What is even the said normal limit a woman can attain before a man becomes being authoritative?? You don't expect a man to be decisive over a woman and then she sees it as an issue and then you term her attitude as excessiveness As I said in my post that wiped off, I'm not being judgemental, but being realistic and I said it's obvious. Some of the excessiveness are-Ego, Nagging, Jealousy, Possessiveness. Jealously is being fearful of being replaced or resentment toward someone's success. I said when two people are in a relationship and they spend a lot of time together, the woman tends to get jealously when the man interacts with another woman. Possessiveness is having or manifesting a desire to control or dominate another person, so when a woman is not secure, she get jealous at a given chance and this where the man comes in and brings her to her senses by asserting his authority. Yes its undisputed that a woman ought to be submissive in all of her doings but not to an authoritative man who lords over her life and tells her what to do and what not to do and bosses her around. I would also add that authoritative men will abuse their women becuse such men would lack being polite in relating to their women. authoritative is effective with your followers, whether you’re a business man, a teacher, or a religious figure. But authoritative is off-putting to those who view you as a friend and equal. Keep that in mind, and be wary of who you come off as authoritative around, and you should be able to use this tone to your advantage, and limit its negative effects upon your relationship. By being authoritative, what I mean is a man tells others what to do, and gives very blunt, direct advice. To summarise my argument against you, I said, BEING ASSERTIVE/AUTHORITATIVE IS NOT SAME AS ABUSIVE/MANIPULATIVE. Thank you. Before I end my statement (though doesn't count again), I want to reinstate my stance and support to the motion that says ''A MAN IS RIGHT TO ASSERT SUPERIOTY/AUTHORITY IN A RELATIONSHIP. Haven't said all this and to support MBJ, I appeal to feminist movement around the world to desist from the campaign for the independence of women, as this will do the womenfolk a lot of good, save and preserve the longest institution (marriage) in the whole world. Thank you once more. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 12:17pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Lolaabokoku: aplology to evry 1.. 4 not login in all dis yl i was hospitalised but now am back and better!!! thank God you're ok |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 12:24pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Thanks for my points unbiased judges and good work opposing team.. I hope we do not have a week long final round...if of course i am in it. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 12:33pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mrs.Chima: wasn't that the final round we just completed? Thought twas a 3 rounds debate. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 12:35pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
This was the last round. Waiting for the scores from the last judges to declare a winner. . . |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 12:39pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mrs C, that was the final round, the debate is over. @MOderator there needs to be a change in the way people debate after the 2nd round, as it is not right. take for example Uj-sizzle and I, i was suppose to reply to her initial post and second post, but her second post was against someone's views that i may NOT stand for (although we are on the same team). So, i may actually agree with an opponent second post, and therefore have nothing to argue about (or very little). yes we are a team but since we dont talk strategy before the start then each are on their own when it comes to debating. also on the 3rd round, what should we reply to after our first post? her reply to our post OR the comment she will make on her first post? if we reply to both then the thread will be MILES long. i hope you understood what i was trying to say....... 1 Like |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 12:40pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
uj_sizzle: I saw someone typed fourth round....but i am glad thoughcis China was getting suspicious with my long and fast typing! Lol! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 12:43pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mbj..dont raise ur voice at me! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 1:11pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
MRbrownJAY: Mrs C, that was the final round, the debate is over.Thanks. The next one will be better. . . |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 1:13pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mrs.Chima: lol don't murder your keyboard o. I'm too tired to think of participating in another round |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 1:16pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
uj_sizzle: It was very time consumjng and no more live debates for me! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by CrazyMan(m): 2:02pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Due to circumstances beyond my control, I delayed a bit in posting my scores. Apologies...I would post them shortly. Thanks for understanding. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 2:59pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Mrs.Chima: u just read my mind. This is my first n last live debate ever! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by CrazyMan(m): 3:31pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
For the 3rd and final round of the debate.... MRbrownJAY vs uj_sizzle MRbrownJAY Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 3 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 31 uj_sizzle Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 3 points Grammatical correctness: 3 points Sentence construction: 3 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 29 Mrs. Chima vs Ayobase Mrs. Chima Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 3 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 3 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 30 Ayobase Content: 3 points Presentation style/delivery: 3 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 3 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 29 candygosh vs dont8 candygosh Content: 4 points Presentation style/delivery: 4 points Grammatical correctness: 3 points Sentence construction: 4 points Clarity/Fluency: 3 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 4 points Effective Conclusion: 4 points Total score: 30 dont8 Content: 3 points Presentation style/delivery: 3 points Grammatical correctness: 4 points Sentence construction: 3 points Clarity/Fluency: 4 points Sound Reasoning: 4 points Logical Development of Argument: 3 points Effective Conclusion: 3 points Total score: 27 I remain your honourable Judge...CrazyMan. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 3:59pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Final Scores Supporting Team: MRbrownJAY - 615.35 points Ayobase - 539.04 points Dont8 - 437.85 points Total - 1592.24 Points Opposing Team Uj sizzle - 612.30 points Mrs Chima - 590.03 points candygosh - 537.59 points Total - 1739.92 points The opposing team wins. . . On individual category, MRbrownJAY wins with a total of 615.35 points closely marked in second place by Uj sizzle with a total of 612.30 points and Mrs Chima in third place with 590.03 points. Congratulations everyone, and thank you for your time and researching efforts. It is well appreciated. Thank you also to the judges. It's quite tasking to read and award marks. Looking forward to working with you again. . . 1 Like |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 4:09pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Yay we win!!! Go Team Red!! Thank you moderator, judges, co-debaters and viewers. I had fun doing this with y'all 1 Like |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by dont8(m): 4:14pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
You're welcome Mr. Moderator. sexkillz: Final Scores |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by dont8(m): 4:25pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
LOL! But there is no winner, because Team Blue aptly represented by MBJ won individually. My sincere apology goes to my Teammates for letting you guys down, but as you can see, I was only judged by one post against two am entitle to. Looking forward to doing this again albeit, time consuming though. Cheers. uj_sizzle: Yay we win!!! Go Team Red!! |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 4:36pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
[size=55pt]YAY! GOOOOOOOOOO RED TEAM!  [/size]Even with low points...I still whooped my opponents' heads!   |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 4:38pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
dont8: LOL! Two beats 1..... |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by MrsChima(f): 4:39pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
sexkillz: Final Scores Thank your Mr. Moderator and congrats on a job well done. I am naming the baby after you. Jugdes....thanks for your time as well. Have a koala nut on me. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by ijebabe: 4:42pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
I think I've had enough intense reading to last me till the end of the year! Let's have a one month gap for the next debate please....with new judges Well done everyone |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by greedie1(f): 4:51pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
REMARK The debate was an eye-opener for me. Initially, I was of the view that a man shouldn't assert his authority in a relationship but now..... I'm not so sure. A very big well done to the participants, you all did well, thanks for your input. to my fellow judges, it's been nice working with you all, thank you and to the moderator, putting this debate together couldn't have been easy, thanks for your time, effort..... And for appreciating us I want to share a few things I learnt about debating ... Simple logic is rarely sufficent in a debate. The trick is to strike a proper balance between appeals to logic & emotion. One shouldn't lose touch with her rational argument amidst the anecdotes, impassioned exhortation and other attempts to win the hearts of the audience and judges. I think the 7 points below will help a debater immensely- 1: avoid innuendo, it's rude and a poor way to debate. You are guilty of this when you insult someone without specifically stating your insult. 2: know when to cede a point with grace and courtesy, debating when your point is no longer valid will make you look petty & ignorant 3: agree to disagree when a debate turns into an argument. U don't need to tear out your opponent's jugular to win when her opinion opposes yours besides, doing so won't earn you more points 4: avoid emotionally charged words, they twist debates into chaotic argument 5: be respectful, don't lose repect for the other person just because you have opposing viewpoints. 6: have solid data to backup your argument, do not be so engrossed in countering your opponent that you forget to back your claim/ view with facts 7: if the opposition make an error in reasoning, point out the logical fallacy, give a simple and really obvious reason why the fallacy is incorrect and discard it. When you counter-argue, you only succeed in weakening the fallacy, making it less persuasive but still valid. These little things adds to or subtracts from ones points so always be careful. Finally, debating should be a means to understand an alternate point of view & hopefully shed some light on a situation so that better solutions can be discovered.... It shouldn't be a means to silence someone. Gree-die 1 Like |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by UjSizzle(f): 4:55pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
dont8: LOL! lmfao consolation prize. As Mz.C said two beats one and d Mod declared us winners hehe |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by greedie1(f): 4:59pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
Oh.......and Mrbrownjay? Your arguments left a permanent impression in my mind. You did exceptionally well. |
| Re: #DEBATE: A Man Should Assert His Superiority/Authority In A Relationship.#~LIVE~ by Nobody: 5:10pm On Oct 16, 2012 |
^^^^Thank you, I am very glad I was able to make ONE person change their views on the subject, as this debate was not easy at all. @Uj-sizzle and Mrs C how can the RED team declare himself the all round winner?! you won the team prize, we won the individual prize. whats this talk of 2 beats 1? ok, look at it this way, your team won gold while ours won silver..... and MBJ won gold, while Uj-Sizzle silver and Mrs C bronze in the individual prize. @Dont8 you didnt let anyone down, you did what you believe was your best at the time, and thats all that matters to the BLUE team. |
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