Logicboy03:


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seyibrown: @ OP

Jesus is the Author and finisher of the christian faith, not the British! The Bible tells us to look to Jesus; not to the British! Faithful christians are not responsible for the fate of Nigeria today; unfaithful christians contribute to it. Most British Christian are only Christian in name, like many Nigerian Christians, and many Xtians world over.

tevinsolt:

42 people wrote about Jesus between his life time and 20 years after his death (both Jewish and secular historians), 5000 Greek manuscripts, 8000 latin manuscripts from early writing of the disciples.....the bible is historical accurate finding have shown the surrounding of Edomites and like recorded David's invasion, also it is believed Egypt recorded the invasion of Israel but was lost....i can't begin to count dude.

tevinsolt:

42 people wrote about Jesus between his life time and 20 years after his death (both Jewish and secular historians), 5000 Greek manuscripts, 8000 latin manuscripts from early writing of the disciples.....the bible is historical accurate finding have shown the surrounding of Edomites and like recorded David's invasion, also it is believed Egypt recorded the invasion of Israel but was lost....i can't begin to count dude.

Itoroetti :
tanx 4 enlightening this dude.i guess he is an athiest.nw Mr poster,go and check d definition of christianity,then tel me wat u realise abt it.do u tink xtianity a form of inheritance?y use d yardstick abt british lifestyle to judge other xtians.bekarful abt wat u post to avoid God's rode.

kingoflag:

It seems youre the only one on earth that believes in the accuracy of the Bible. A book that if you put 20 different ones on a table---all written in the same language---open to the same page and you'll get 20 different versions is not the epitome of "Accuracy" if you ask me. But, what do I know....

kingoflag:

Its nonsense because you tried to delve from the core of the debate and embrace sarcasm instead of an intelligent retort. You know why? Because most of cannot defend,logically, that which you so wholeheartedly believe in. I have no problems with anyone's religious beliefs in so far as it doesnt harm me or affect the way of life of me and my loved ones. What I have a problem with is irrationality and the refusal to think outside the box because of beliefs that were handed to you by your slave masters. Beliefs that have done nothing but kept generations of you guys in mental bondage. To each is own, but its always best to see things from all angles.

tevinsolt:

dude just shut up if you don't know.....the English bible was translated from directly from the Greek and Hebrew (original versions) if you don not believe it you can hug a transformer for all i care

Logicboy03:



Nice. All we have about Jesus are old writings about him.


He could have existed, no doubt. The issue with me is his ressurection

kpolli: So cos someone teaches u something, does that mean u can not be better than ur teacher??

This is the kind of topic an illiterate would raise

tevinsolt:

bro Luke was a physician and an historian, Paul was an highly educated man he spoke Greek lived in Rome....he said had it been Jesus had not risen we are fools.....the disciples saw him, the bible even recorded they didn't believe him at first until he showed to them he is risen....he appeared to over 500 hundred people btw the period of 40 days and this people died for what they saw not what they believed in....in a Jewish dominated society

erico2k2: OP who are the true xtians?

Benito69: It is not a matter of 'if you will bow', it is a matter of 'when you will bow'....bow him today as your Lord and savior or bow to him in eternity as your Judge and executioner.
John 3:16

Logicboy03:


Epic fail.

The point of the thread is to question why Britain that gave us christianity is dropping it.



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tevinsolt: i must admit, i was raised in a christian family but as i grew i started to develop doubts and fallibility of the bible..... I've watched many debates among Christians, atheist and Muslims......but for me, it is more plausible to believe i came from a living being and a rational being who designed all these than a complex biochemical reaction that pop out from nothing over billions of years. i believe morality is also objectively from God and for Muslims who claim to worship same God as Christians, law of non-contradiction only proves one religion could be right btw islam and christianity since we claim the same God.....but i choose Christianity because Muhammad was exposed to Gnostic Gospels...which were inaccurate testimonies of Jesus which can only mean one thing.

Logicboy03:


Why so angry?



Look babe,

Atheism is the disbelief in God and not the hatred of god.




No one saying you should follow Britian into oblivion. The aim of the thread is to get christian peeps like you to ask why did Britain drop christianity? Why?

After answering that question look at Nigeria and then ask if christianity benefits Naija?

tpia@:
I wonder why some people are so fixated with the british.

From dont speak english to dont be more christian than the british.

If you cant be british, be chinese, kapish?

Make we hear word.

kpolli:

Pls re-read ur post, ur ? was if after collecting advise from a friend to buy mazda n we go to his house n see only benz (note u didn't say mazda n benz), would u ever take his advise. . .

Shows how stupid ur ? is cos u couldn't even express it how u wanted to. . . .

Logicboy03: The UK has a christian history but it is now very much a secular state. The British were the ones that brought christianity to Nigeria and yet Nigerians are now even more christian than the British.


I want to ask honest people on Nairaland a simple question;


[size=18pt]If someone came to your house to convince you that you should buy Mazda cars and you agree to buy a Mazda car in the near future but on going to the person's house, you find that the person is mostly driving Mercedes Benz, would you continue to trust his statement on Mazdas?[/size]



The above bold question highlights a cognitive dissonance of many Nigerians. They carry their Christianity to Britain without realizing or asking why the British have mostly dropped the Christianity that they gave Nigeria. They dont even bother to ask why church attendance is so low in Britain and why over a third of the British are atheists/agnostics.


Here are some foolish rationalizations made by the average Nigerian christian;

-The British are less moral than us Christian Nigerians (Really? with your witch beating, tithe frauds, high level of corruption and embezzlement?)

-God is using us to bring religion to UK (Really? then why did God not bring christianity to Nigeria before the British and in more peaceful ways than slavery/colonization of Nigeria by the british?)

-Africans are more spiritual and sensible than the British/Europeans (Really? when you import many things from the British? When theBritish have a more stable and organised society? Has you spirituality helped Nigeria to achieve such?)


would like christians to comment on this topic, especially Mr Anony that lives in the UK. We both went to a debate about abortion in London, only to find that Anony was in the serious minority when talking about abortion from a christian religious/moral perspective

Logicboy03:


Why so angry?



Look babe,

Atheism is the disbelief in God and not the hatred of god.


No one saying you should follow Britian into oblivion. The aim of the thread is to get christian peeps like you to ask why did Britain drop christianity? Why?

After answering that question look at Nigeria and then ask if christianity benefits Naija?

Policewoman: Logicboy, your logic is flawed. Christianity didn't start from Britain and so you cannot say it is owned by the British. Christianity started in the present palestine and later spread to Europe through Rome. It was during the Roman colonisation of most of europe that the AngloSaxons got to hear of christianity. And by the way, you sound like an atheist to me. So no need arguing further with you.

Logicboy03:


Have you compared your religion to other religions? Buddhism, Shintoism, Jainism, Sammaritarainism etc?


When watching the debatesm, didnt the christians lose?

How did they manage to overcome the problem of

a) God flooding the earth in the old testament, thereby killing millions of innocent children?
b) The tacit approval of slavery in the old testament?
c) The sexist letter of Paul in the New testament
d) The Zombiefication of Christ?

PastelChic:

So you disbelieve GOD but don't hate GOD...LMAO...ha ha ha ha ha...for an atheist this indeed is rich!

tevinsolt:

read what you wrote again......where does the judgment you just made come from?
you don't believe in God, who are you to say God is wrong for clearing the earth because Nephilims were polluting the human gene pool?
if you do not believe in God you are un-shielded and you are at the mercy of being captured and taking captive
you do not believe in God so where does the judgement of Paul being sexist comes from? when he was trying to compromise and provide a common ground when he was dealing with a very sexist society? read in context Paul said there is no diversity we are all equal in Christ!

ekt_bear:

Sarcasm was legitimate in this case. I made up a fake Bible verse which supports the OPs claim that we should pay attention to the British.

This illustrates the point I have made repeatedly in this thread: from the perspective of a Christian, the British are irrelevant.

I don't know what else to say...if you didn't understand how my response was relevant, there is really nothing I can do to make it more clear.