Logicboy03: The UK has a christian history but it is now very much a secular state. The British were the ones that brought christianity to Nigeria and yet Nigerians are now even more christian than the British.


I want to ask honest people on Nairaland a simple question;


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The above bold question highlights a cognitive dissonance of many Nigerians. They carry their Christianity to Britain without realizing or asking why the British have mostly dropped the Christianity that they gave Nigeria. They dont even bother to ask why church attendance is so low in Britain and why over a third of the British are atheists/agnostics.


Here are some foolish rationalizations made by the average Nigerian christian;

-The British are less moral than us Christian Nigerians (Really? with your witch beating, tithe frauds, high level of corruption and embezzlement?)

-God is using us to bring religion to UK (Really? then why did God not bring christianity to Nigeria before the British and in more peaceful ways than slavery/colonization of Nigeria by the british?)

-Africans are more spiritual and sensible than the British/Europeans (Really? when you import many things from the British? When theBritish have a more stable and organised society? Has you spirituality helped Nigeria to achieve such?)


would like christians to comment on this topic, especially Mr Anony that lives in the UK. We both went to a debate about abortion in London, only to find that Anony was in the serious minority when talking about abortion from a christian religious/moral perspective

PastelChic: LMAO< This really is rich! name dropping " Antioch" ha ha ha...if my style of writing..no wait, if what I am saying is beyond Your comprehension, all you need is ask for a simple explanation and no, i don't have to impress a bunch of faceless people on how intelligent I am...I only stated the obvious and thank you for making me aware that you are indeed another fool in the bandwagon...welcome to the show

Logicboy03:



Tpia, remain small before you kill me ooo!


Wetin I do you?


Anayway, the point of the thread is to question.

Why did the British who gave us Christianity drop it?

zo3184: Religion is a crutch for weak minded people. Africans grow up there is no God.

ifeness:


How do you know these stories true? There is no god anywhere!

Horus:

When Indian people come to England or any European country, they build and open Temples or shrines. When Chinese people come to England or any European country they build and open Temples or shrines; But when African people come to England or any European they build Churches and worship the images of their former slave masters. The Indians and Chinese have unity amongst themselves , they also have a good economy , China is going to be the next super power ,forget America. These countries India and China have also gone nuclear , they worship their own images (their ancestors) who work for them. The Europeans have religion, however, it does not stop them from working together. They have european union (which is the european community = common unity). But black africans are still fighting and arguing over a religion that does not belong to them. Many Nigerians for example will not work with you if you have a different religion. It was many years ago that Bob Marley sang emancipate ourselves from mental slavery , yet our people are still mentally enslaved. We are the only species on earth that will side another species against their own. You will not see a Chinese person side with a Hindu against another Chinese, neither will you see an Hindu side with a Chinese against another Hindu. You will not see a Cat side with a dog against another cat, neither will you see a dog side with a cat against another dog. You will not see a rat side with a cat against another rat, neither will you see a cat side with a rat against another cat. We black are the only species on the planet that will side with another species, be it Asian, Caucasian or Arab against their own. When will we realize we have been tricked with these monothetic religions of Judaism, Islam and Christianity?

tpia@:




you're the one killing yourself.

the portuguese sent missionaries to nigeria before the british, duh.

you're so fixated on the english- is there a problem?

Sam xiu lee: you ve done a good job trying to educate the op and his atheist followers,but I want you to understand that its better you enlighten an illitrate than a semi illitrate,cos an illitrate will agree that he does not have know,but a semi illitrate,will claim he knows it all,while a litrate person will always seek knowledge till he is six feet below.
The word secular or being more of a Christian than the British does not correlate with the op's first post.Nigeria is a secular Nation,the British head of state is the Queen of England who also hold the title of the Head of the church of England,if the op was talking about they way we, Nigerian practice Christianity,that's another thing entirely but he did not,rather than that he is saying that we are not secular(I wonder what he meant by that).Yes we have problem where by Government both in federal and state level sponsor some religious programs eg pilgrimage,but we are secular atleast from our constitution.If the op is trying to talk about the way we practice various religion both Christianity and Islam,he should put his words right,even in Ghana they don't attened church the way we Nigerians do.Some people go to church cos they don't want to die of boredom on sunday when PHCN holds electricity.

seyibrown: I bet logicboy03 wishes he never started this thread now! Christians - in Nigeria and world over - are neither bound nor accountable to the British but to Christ! Understood?? Get it into your atheist skull!

Lots of love,

Signed

seyibrown.

quimbi: I'm not surprised abt d argument against christianity.its d end-time;its expected.so wateva anybody says abt christianity,I won't stop believing in $ following Jesus.. CHRISTIANITY IS AN INDIVIDUAL RACE.

Logicboy:

You said:

Your logic fails. I am advocating the we adopt British secularism that works.

jagun007:

What happens when the British in the future drops secularism and adopt something else. Are we to then follow suite? Are you saying the British are more superior beings that we must follow their every decision?

proffmanue: It's a free world:choose the religion u like. Christianity is a way of life. most people are Christians by name but not by deeds. The British were fortunate to be the pipeline that brought Christianity to parts of Nigeria but they never force it upon us.

Sam xiu lee: you ve done a good job trying to educate the op and his atheist followers,but I want you to understand that its better you enlighten an illitrate than a semi illitrate,cos an illitrate will agree that he does not have know,but a semi illitrate,will claim he knows it all,while a litrate person will always seek knowledge till he is six feet below.
The word secular or being more of a Christian than the British does not correlate with the op's first post.Nigeria is a secular Nation,the British head of state is the Queen of England who also hold the title of the Head of the church of England,if the op was talking about they way we, Nigerian practice Christianity,that's another thing entirely but he did not,rather than that he is saying that we are not secular(I wonder what he meant by that).Yes we have problem where by Government both in federal and state level sponsor some religious programs eg pilgrimage,but we are secular atleast from our constitution.If the op is trying to talk about the way we practice various religion both Christianity and Islam,he should put his words right,even in Ghana they don't attened church the way we Nigerians do.Some people go to church cos they don't want to die of boredom on sunday when PHCN holds electricity.

Logicboy03:



Christianity is a religion


We were unfortunate to have the british force this foreign religion on us

davidylan:

but then you carry your load and sit square in british territory? the irony.

tevinsolt: British brought schools, taught us science.......well according to your logic, logic....pheww the irrationality of being more scientifically oriented that some British? hahaha i guess we should stop going to school altogether because the colonial masters introduced us to it, Calabar should better start the killing of twins all over again because oh my Mary Slessor was wrong for telling them it's "inhumane"

Logicboy03:



Why are people stupid?


The British brought schools. religion, slavery, colonization, technology.


Must we accept religion with the schools and technology?



Furthermore, the British came since the 16th century but the first school they put was in the 19th century after the abolition of slavery. Think

Logicboy03:

Yet another christian that misses the point of the thread!
The thread is for us to question why the British who gave us christianity have dropped it.
I am not saying that Christainity originated in Britain or Jesus is not important.
BTW, if Jesus was so important to you, why was he never bothered about West Africa?

quimbi: I'm not surprised abt d argument against christianity.its d end-time;its expected.so wateva anybody says abt christianity,I won't stop believing in $ following Jesus.. CHRISTIANITY IS AN INDIVIDUAL RACE.

tevinsolt:

you're not making sense anymore no disrespect....cuz ur contradicting yourself now

seyibrown:

The British may have dropped the traditional 'going to church because society says so' but there are still many who love the Lord and remain truly xtian and many more coming back from the 'world' into Christ(I say this because I attend a spirit-filled 99% white church here). Gradual de-chritianisation is not peculiar to the British. Many Christian all over the world fall away from the church and many new people find christ. Go back and look at the history of those countries you claim are secular today, they were christian and they got where they are today ont he shoulders of christianity.



Society may change it's course, attitudes and it definition of morals, right and wrong but Christ does not change. Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

The point is you made an error in suggesting Nigeria Xtians to do whatever British Xtians do. You should by extension say that Nigeria should do whatever Britain does. Why has Nigeria not decriminalised homosexuality? Got rid of the death penalty? Got rid of corruption? Become a welfare state? Kept terrorism under control? Ensure justice is available and affordable to the general citizenry? Is it all because this 'largely muslim country'( - according to how the british left it) still hold on to xtianity?

Xtianity does not hold back societal progress; The selfish, greedy people we continue to elect (or who find their by hook or crook and want to continue keeping the majority of Nigerians in poverty so they can be worshipped as 'big men') into leadership do!