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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 1:17am On Oct 26, 2012
I really hope the mods will do the right thing and delete the troll posts here so the sensible discussion can continue.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 1:22am On Oct 26, 2012
ileobatojo: I really hope the mods will do the right thing and delete the troll posts here so the sensible discussion can continue.
hey friend, live and let live and why are you still up by the way, its late already?
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Genius100: 1:33am On Oct 26, 2012
Some guys are real bastards, that's for sure. Any woman that find herself in an abusive relationship should get out immediately. I can't even begin to fathom that there are some me like Debrief's ex. However, I have seen enough to note that women are just as terrible as men when it comes to abuse. Women's type of abuse may not be physical but it is nonetheless just as damaging. Perhaps, it's because I've spent most of my years in the western world, but quite frankly, what I've seen women do to men here always fill me with a fair dose of skepticism when I see some women painting themselves as the victim..

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Ishilove: 2:03am On Oct 26, 2012
Guitarlife: You mean your mum took all the shyte and today they are both happily married ? C'mon, now that's the kinda stories we want to read here. Maybe if cotton had tarried a lil longer, just maybe she'd have gotten to her marital eldorado now.
I hope peeps will learn from your mom. Please buy her a bucket of pop corn for me. She deserves even more.
Jesus who is this guy?? ?

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Ishilove: 2:05am On Oct 26, 2012
Sisi_Kill: Ah! All hail the power of the pestle.

Of course one can't help but wonder what woulda happened to the kiddies if mom and dad had died.

Oh hush Sisi, now is not the time for morbid thoughts. The pestle on the head worked and that's all that matters.

grin grin cheesy
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 4:07am On Oct 26, 2012
Uhmmm. This women have gone through a lot, thank God it didn't break them.

I and my fiance have plans of getting married in 6 months time and this post got me so scared to my marrow until Guitarlife came and wrote some useful things too.

Anyway, thank God i have a well paying job...incase Mr. Husband turns Mike Tyson...

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by 9lifes(m): 5:21am On Oct 26, 2012
Staying..i hate that word...that word killed my mom

I wish i can tell my mom's story..its hard to live with an unhappy person.Some people have no idea what it means to stay in a abusive relationship,you die slowly until you loose your true self.I watched a smart,agile, confident and strong business woman (my mom) fade away as a result of constant abuse.The lost of identity is the worst part of it all...i wish i can post all i have written.

I am not taking side,but no matter the reason, abuse of any form must not be tolerated.I have sisters,and to be frank i am really
worried especially knowing that some a..h0.le exist who can not differentiate between normal marital problem and physical abuse,between normal argument and verbal abuse.people have reasons of going into marriages (love,money,virginity..e.t.c),and some of these reasons are insane but it gives no one the right to abuse another,if you can't stand seeing someone leave them alone.

For those that walked away,be proud..its not easy to defy a sanctimonious society like ours.

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 6:20am On Oct 26, 2012
Ishilove:
Jesus who is this guy?? ?
His name I heard is Guitarlife.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 6:34am On Oct 26, 2012
Rukemi291: Uhmmm. This women have gone through a lot, thank God it didn't break them.

I and my fiance have plans of getting married in 6 months time and this post got me so scared to my marrow until Guitarlife came and wrote some useful things too.

Anyway, thank God i have a well paying job...incase Mr. Husband turns Mike Tyson...
Ishilove, sis, efemena and others, please digest this post. Especially where she 'accused' me of writing something useful. I'm flattered already and you are welcome ma. May your marriage be a model one. May your husband love you with his life but please when this happens never forget to respect him too.
I hope people will manage to retrieve their sense of objective reasoning wherever it is they dropped it.
How you think the intelliegent thing to do after walking into a fight that you didn't know how it started is to pick the least battered person as the cause of the fight beats me.
Your better judgement should teach you that in a rift it's prespoterous to decide who the guilty party is by listening to just one side of the narrative and most likely from the party involved.
There are a whole lot of things we cannot correctly judge in marriage for example, a man whoose wife has refused s**ex. Would you blame him for misbehaving ? Tell me how you expect him to call you the children and start telling you his wife wan take konji kiil am. And you would think the husband is the villian in that home if the husband starts becoming aggressive.
This is the reason it makes for better judgement not to prematurely adjudicate a marital conflict. The lines are not as cut out as we'd expect them.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by greatgod2012(f): 7:14am On Oct 26, 2012
OMG! I've been following this thread from d beginning, i say kudos to d womenfolks,then,greater kudos to d wiser ones, im not in support of divorce BUT when it comes to physical abuse, i think d wiser women have to run 4 their dear lives, knowing fully well dt life has no duplicate, and BTW, a living dog, i hear say, is better than a dead lion, why will anyone decide to commit suicide by staying in an abusive marriage for humanity sake? These pple are sharing their experieces now, its because they are still alive, if they are dead, they wouldnt be remembered again,and if they are remembered, pple will say, ignorance killed them, so, i am proud of them, at least, they are not ignorant. But wait o, those who said they should have waited,till it gets better, what if instead of getting better, it got worse? And may i ask again, between life and marriage, which one is more important?
I think there is a saying dt, a brave soldier comes back to narrate his experience of war/battle, but d foolish ones died in battle.
I've never experienced any form of abuse in my marriage, and i thank God 4 dt, but i have a sister who did, thank God she is still alive,but paid with her left eye; when they were fighting, she got so beaten dt she was trying to run for her life and d hubby was pursuing her with a stick,so she just look behind to see how close d man was when d man threw d stick,believe me, it went straight to her left eye, she was rushed to d hospital, was later transfered to UCH,ibadan, but she couldnt gain dt eye back, by d time she was ok, she came back to pack her belongings, our mother who never agreed to her separation now supported her, since, then my orientation changed about an abusive relationship.
Another exaple,is dt of one sister to my friend,we use to call her "aunty ronke" when she parked out due to abuse, she decided not to leave with their girl who was just about 6 month, so when she was going, d husband was shouting:"come and carry ur child o",d poor woman did not answer, he just threw d baby from d 2nd floor to d woman, and she missed d girl, that is how they lost dt little girl, can u imagine that? I learnt they are back together now, but i dont really know d thought they will be having towards each other each time they remember their daughter they both killed.
So, i think its better to leave than for one to lose her life.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 7:31am On Oct 26, 2012
This is a serious thread with serious issues, not because it is me but because a lot of women reading are reading their life stories and what they are currently dealing with.
Off course I expected some people who have no real attention in real life and a sad wrapped sense of reasoning to come and throw some confusion and attempt to mke the thread a joke but I expected that like Jenny said the wise ones who know the seriousness of this thread will ignore them.
What is the point of the banter? Let everyone even one who objects express his/her point and let it be, why give someone so much attention when you already know what his mentality is and let him turn this thread into a joke?
If someone thinks refusing s3x is a licence for a husband to misbahave, then I am sure you guys should know the mentality and matuarity os such a person and let him be. Why keep giving him the attention he seriously craves on such a serious thread?
A lot of people reading this have been opening up saying thing they will never normally say, that happens because others to have freely shared their real lives, please let the fun and jokes go someone else, I am not being rude but please, let us concentrate on the aim of the thread so people can freely speak about their real feelings and others who are in this situation can read and learn.
Cotton, you don't have to be defensive and keep defending your decision to everyone who objects, it is settled that a lot of people will prefer to sympatise with a dead spouse than a licving divorced one, get over it, no matter what you say they won't accept it, let them be.
For women going through this, it is not DO or DIE as you have been told, your kids deserve a healhty father / mother and a healthy preaceful life, that is better than a battle zone where kids run and hide when the abuser comes home. Stop hiding under the kids you are destroying them.
Please I don't mean to scold others but I beg you, ignore attention seekers, there are people with real problems reading this

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 7:41am On Oct 26, 2012
@deberief, my reference to a woman refusing her husband sex was just hypothetical. I am quite befuddled that you had no word of advice for erring women too.
Going by your warped sense of reasoning , all women who found themselves is abusive relationships are saints huh ?
Grow up, the men who indulge in same are pathetic and the women too are most times culpable. Stop spewing fallacy just in a bid to gain cheap support.
It's really lame a thing to do. Why don't you tell us your own shortcomings too. A lot of the petulant and gluttonous beings parading themselves as women would have so much to learn about how you got it wrong.
Oh! I forgot, all through the period of your marriage you never for once erred. You are the saint and your husband whom you took the sacred marital vows with , looking intently into his eyes with so much hope for the future is the beast.
You can fool some people sometime but you can't fool all the people all the time(RIP bob marley).

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 7:49am On Oct 26, 2012
Mr. Guitarlife. A Big AMIN 2d prayers o.
I see some humour in ur write up. Try to balance it sha
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 7:53am On Oct 26, 2012
yes its always the victims fault

so in the case above of the man who killed his baby i guess it was the baby's fault abi? no my daughter didn't cook the egusi soup in time thats why her father shows no interest or responsibility - i tire for certain mentalities sometimes

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by EfemenaXY: 8:06am On Oct 26, 2012
cotton101: yes its always the victims fault

so in the case above of the man who killed his baby i guess it was the baby's fault abi? no my daughter didn't cook the egusi soup in time thats why her father shows no interest or responsibility - i tire for certain mentalities sometimes

Cotton, did you see my response to your comment?

Pls, pls, pls, do not allow what happened in the past errode your self-esteem. Don't beat yourself up over it.

The best you can do is learn from it and move on...which is exactly what you're doing. Stop trying to reason with the confirmed "sickos" on this thread.

@ Debrief, no, you're right. Apologies for side tracking.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 8:17am On Oct 26, 2012
debrief08: Hmmm, Jenny, this early morning. Lol
Anyway, your husband is right, however before I start, believe me most Nigerian women by upbringing and socialisation and not taught to have any esteem. Our worth is measured in terms of your ability to grab and keep a man, a metality we have to break.
We married quiet young and at first it was heaven because he had just landed his dream job a few months after the wedding.
As I have said he started hanging out with his dad more, then we would still talk and laugh but soon I couldn't talk with him, I didn't want to tell anyone that my young fairy tale wedding was already having troubles, and I was told that "a real woman builds her home", load of crap I must say, designed to keep women foolish.
Anyway, when I started noticing lipsticks, condoms and texts messages, strange calls, I confronted him, then I could still do that. He was a little sorry, apologised and said he will "try" to stop. He went back and spoke to his dad because we talked and he decided to reduce his hanging out, well his dad said I was silly and ungreteful, I should shut up and be thankful I have a husband and not demand too much.
At that point I reported to his mom and my parents. My mom said I should pray, fast, be more patient, accomodative and not ask questions, that I should ignore cheating signs, his mom said the same, but called him and cried to him.
My Dad didn't find it funny, called him to talk and he started shouting at my dad accusing him of wanting to control him.
That was when the first slap came up.
I took the advice of see and hear no evil, it just became worse and more daring.
With wach case of cheating something died, so much that I stopped crying or caring, I just stayed because everyone made me think I must be doing something wrong and prayer is the key. Sometimes I told myself I actually deserve better but when I said aloud that I want to leave I was discouraged.
My dad after his first experience was slow to interfere till I left.
The feeling of finding out the first time can best be imagined, anger, betrayal, pain, and hurt, I cried for days, but I was told not to cry that crying or reacting will push him away further.
So I just stayed numb, trying to please and beg a husband to love me

OMG debrief , I'm so sorry. This just makes me love you, so real and so much to learn. cry cry
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Kayyy: 8:39am On Oct 26, 2012
@ Debrief your story was unbelievable, telling it evem more, i admire your strength and am happy you found your self a great man now, looking at the greater picture and putting objectivity into this whole abuse issue, this section is called the family section for a reason, i believe it is about discussing all that is going on in thye family, the man, the woman, the children, extended family, etc, the amount of posts and long thread that come here discussing issues relating to sympathy to the woman is not telling the reality in most nigerian marriages, of course i've got two sisters and wouldnt pray physical abuse on them, but the when during discussing problems in the family , we are all sumpathetic to the women folks, then we are missing the bigger picture, judging from the many realities i've seen in niigerian marriages, i would speak from my tribe (Yoruba), a fact is MOST WOMEN ARE NOT SAINTS IN MARRIAGE, the sad reality is both man and woman are contributing to a failed marriage, they are both contributing to abuse in marriage, the many people that are posting here do have one close or far friend either man/woman abusing their spouse in their marriage, it could be emotional abuse, physical abuse, as a result of finances, cheating, etc, everyone is guilty.

pampering the most affected in a marital failure isnt the solution, being sympathetic to them is not the solution, i thank God for my family, but the same way debrief narated her story, i can narate 10 different stories of men that have died of abuse, that are currently suffering abuse, that have been pushed to retaliate physically, these people are past neighbours, friends, colleagues that dont have a lovely story to tell about their marriage, such threads do not generate up to 5-6 pages on here, if you heard a man developed some illness as a result of situation in his marriage and eventually passed on, truth is he would even be abused on here, so is the society continuing to be sympathetic to the situation only women face in their marriage the solution to these problems, between debrief, aunty jenny, chaircover, etc i wont believe you've all have lived this world long and not seen all forms of abuses on men in their marriages as well, it would balance this discussion even more when we are discussing your own situation if you tell such stories, that i believe would give us direction, no one i repeat should get away with any form of abuse, no form of abuse should be treated any differently, no one should be pacified and regarded as a lesser sex even when she is abusive, no man i repeat should be called a wimp in an abuse situation, and if called such the same should be said about the other sex,

i actually woke up this morning after several tales of ladies/guys cheating in marriage in lagos and was going to start a thread on it not blaming ladies alone and not accusing them as i dont know what went wrong in such marriages but was going to ask how two people who claim they are married are both cheating on each other, they both know this and yet still remain in such marriage, the thought of a married partner cheating with another married partner, the idea of continuing a marriage where you know somebody if having a field day with your partner, the thought that some spouses dont desrve this and have actually been faithful but issues like sleeping with exs contiuing to destroy marriages, Guitarlife has brought a wise dimension to this discussion, that the sympathy to the affceted in a marital faiilure will not solve anything, this whole women sympathy has brought the west to where it is today, i dont want that, it is time have a balanced discussion, yes i believe people can change , people can turn to monsters and this applies to both man and woman, i believe the day we have a thread discussing these issues here and i see interests on the thread is the day we ready to priovide solutions to the abuses generally in the home.

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 8:44am On Oct 26, 2012
Efemena_xy:

Aren't you a teeny-weeny bit angry her heart is elsewhere?

Anyway, not to worry. All you need to do, to get Sisi back on track...to "know her place" as a woman is for you to:

~ Just "endure" it. Ignore her. She go tire.

~ Dress s/e/x/y. Get those tight, black leather jeans on. Also buy the leather thongs too. It's guaranteed to get her to cloud 9

~ Improve your cooking. Make sure when she gets back from work, you rush to open the front gate for her to drive in. Open the car door for her. Take her brief case in, and kiss the floor she walks on. When you serve her her dinner, make sure you kneel down. Arrange her drinking glass on the table in such a way that it doesn't block her view of the latest Nollywood movie on African Magic...

I'll come back with some more helpful hints. But in the meantime, just manage these ones.

Oh, and make sure you fast, fast, and fast some more too.
I LOVE U FOR THIS POST, I F*UCKING LOVE U MEHN!!! grin grin grin
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Tgirl4real(f): 8:46am On Oct 26, 2012
Guitarlife: His name I heard is Guitarlife.

Guitarlyf, are u causing some trouble in my section? sad


Goodmorning y'all
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by ifyalways(f): 8:50am On Oct 26, 2012
Guitarlife: You mean your mum took all the shyte and today they are both happily married ? C'mon, now that's the kinda stories we want to read here. Maybe if cotton had tarried a lil longer, just maybe she'd have gotten to her marital eldorado now.
I hope peeps will learn from your mom. Please buy her a bucket of pop corn for me. She deserves even more.
no her mom didn't take all that "shyte" . She took charge of her life by attacking her husband oneday. Not every woman is physically cut to fight back, heck, some can't even defend themselves,they'll only cry and roll on the floor.

If only the society(me and you) would stop seeing marriage as a "must do". . .
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Odunnu: 8:56am On Oct 26, 2012
The 'must do' mindset is what is causing all the troubles.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 9:06am On Oct 26, 2012
Tgirl4real:

Guitarlyf, are u causing some trouble in my section? sad


Goodmorning y'all
No ma'am. I am just helping them to be a lil bit objective. How is the baby and hubby too?
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 9:10am On Oct 26, 2012
I'm really sorry for deflating @debriefs ego but then, no party is right in a failed marriage, eigth grade physics.
Whatever comes out of your marriage you are both responsible. Maybe if you had learned not to trade blames much earlier just maybe the story would have been different.
I heard some men hate people trading and laying blames, it's called nagging.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 9:10am On Oct 26, 2012
Kayyy: @ Debrief your story was unbelievable, telling it evem more, i admire your strength and am happy you found your self a great man now, looking at the greater picture and putting objectivity into this whole abuse issue, this section is called the family section for a reason, i believe it is about discussing all that is going on in thye family, the man, the woman, the children, extended family, etc, the amount of posts and long thread that come here discussing issues relating to sympathy to the woman is not telling the reality in most nigerian marriages, of course i've got two sisters and wouldnt pray physical abuse on them, but the when during discussing problems in the family , we are all sumpathetic to the women folks, then we are missing the bigger picture, judging from the many realities i've seen in niigerian marriages, i would speak from my tribe (Yoruba), a fact is MOST WOMEN ARE NOT SAINTS IN MARRIAGE, the sad reality is both man and woman are contributing to a failed marriage, they are both contributing to abuse in marriage, the many people that are posting here do have one close or far friend either man/woman abusing their spouse in their marriage, it could be emotional abuse, physical abuse, as a result of finances, cheating, etc, everyone is guilty.



Let me put it simply. Nobody cares about what things these ladies possibly did wrong. Once a marriage has devolved to the point of repeated beatings and abuse for whatever reason, it tells me those two people should not continue to be together, simple. We will celebrate the victim who was strong enough to escape be it the man or the woman. QED.

pampering the most affected in a marital failure isnt the solution, being sympathetic to them is not the solution

First of all, no one is looking for a solution as we don't see any problem with escaping an abusive marriage alive instead of in a body bag. But assuming we were, what is the solution? Hammering it in their heads that they are 'failures'?

i actually woke up this morning after several tales of ladies/guys cheating in marriage in lagos and was going to start a thread on it not blaming ladies alone and not accusing them as i dont know what went wrong in such marriages but was going to ask how two people who claim they are married are both cheating on each other, they both know this and yet still remain in such marriage, the thought of a married partner cheating with another married partner, the idea of continuing a marriage where you know somebody if having a field day with your partner, the thought that some spouses dont desrve this and have actually been faithful but issues like sleeping with exs contiuing to destroy marriages,


If you have a story to share, open a thread and share it.

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 9:14am On Oct 26, 2012
I had to erase the long note I wrote cos I was too emotional. Lol, it doesn't match my Nairaland personality grin grin

I have a question and I'm sorry it's not related to the topic of this thread. For those that have both male and female kids, how do you delegate household chores between the two gender?? Are u more concerned about teaching ur female kids how to cook and clean the house than ur male kids?? What effect do you think this have on your children later on (in respect to ur reply). I will ask further questions that would lead to what my main issue is?? I've been thinking of this lately.

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Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Kayyy: 9:29am On Oct 26, 2012
"Let me put it simply. Nobody cares about what things these ladies possibly did wrong. Once a marriage has devolved to the point of repeated beatings and abuse for whatever reason, it tells me those two people should not continue to be together, simple. We will celebrate the victim who was strong enough to escape be it the man or the woman. QED"


there lies the diffrence between myself and yourself, there is no victim or better put you dont know who the victim is and who the accused is, fairplay and respect to deberief, and others who have come to tell their stories here, but not everyone who comes here to share their story is the victim, it is not my duty and everyone who reads on here to decide who's the victim and the accused, between a couple who had a failed marriage i am sure none would come out to tell the world he/she was the problem except in extreme cases, this doesnt mean i have cast doubt on debrief's story, she could very right be the victiom.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by EfemenaXY: 9:30am On Oct 26, 2012
Shollypopz: I had to erase the long note I wrote cos I was too emotional. Lol, it doesn't match my Nairaland personality grin grin

I have a question and I'm sorry it's not related to the topic of this thread. For those that have both male and female kids, how do you delegate household chores between the two gender?? Are u more concerned about teaching ur female kids how to cook and clean the house than ur male kids?? What effect do you think this have on your children later on (in respect to ur reply). I will ask further questions that would lead to what my main issue is?? I've been thinking of this lately.

Babes, open up a seperate thread for that. Well make our contributions.
Re: Debrief, cotton101 and those that came out alive. Got A Few Questions For You. by Nobody: 9:35am On Oct 26, 2012
Tgal weldone o. You have hidden my post again abi ? We will meet at 'home' that is where we will sort everything out.

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