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Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by hakanai(m): 3:13pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
CHESSBOARD: lol! look Mr. Man, when Gowon ruled even biafra could not break away and peace was widely enforced.Over years,same has being maintained.Up until this generation of politicians came and truncated it for political relevance and outrageous greed.This people who cut across ethnic lines,are to be blamed.Not Gowon,not Awolowo or any tribe but our political parties.Especially PDP!!!! So What is happening in Jos now is peace and peace building.Before now Jos had crisis which is similar to the Ebonyi communal crisis,that has caused life and property QED.Nothing new or unique.Just conflict of interest between neighbors.Typical instance is in the Itshekiri vs Ijaw,muadakeke,Ebonyi etc So there is always conflict all over the world and we are not an exception.Its just that we all need to find a collective way out of it.But surely we would.So stop counting on it as a make up for your loss during the war.We have had amany and have scaled so many including biafra.Now what remains is time and government commitment to tackle the changing environment.The FGN is learning fast and the trend is changing.So are the people.Gradually but surely Nigerians will exist and come out even stronger.While the defunct biafran apologist will remain in denial and certain decline for eternity . |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Yujin(m): 5:35pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
nagoma: Japan was defeated in the second world war after the dropping of 2 atom bombs on some of their largest cities, Germany was severely defeated and no city in the world not even iraq has taken the kind of destructive bombardment carried out by the allies on Dresden and other German cities. We are only talking about recent history , this has happened though out history . War is an adventure and could be a misadventure as it turned out to be for Ojukwu. Would they be talking like this if Ojukwu won the war? Gowon should just ignore these people whining and moaning about what they don't know. If they can't take a defeat gallantly like other lands why did they start the war?. War is not a football game please.I hope you will not complain WHEN thesame comes your way. The time is near. Civil wars are different from international wars. Gowon's sincerity in prosecuting the war is glaringly in doubt. Why did he renegade on the Aburi accord? Gowon is indeed unapologetic and as such would deserve whatever befalls him and whosoever shares his views. We are watching. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Boboedom: 5:50pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
For the first time, this man said something other than praying for Nigeria and it is complete rubbish. He is already panicking, he will never know peace. This is just the beginning. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by bola4dprec(m): 6:12pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
The Nigerian Civil War, also known as the Nigerian-Biafran War, 6 July 1967 – 15 January 1970, was a political conflict caused by the attempted secession of the southeastern provinces of Nigeria as the self-proclaimed Republic of Biafra. The conflict was the result of economic, ethnic, cultural and religious tensions among the various peoples of Nigeria. Is not initiated by Gen. Gowon |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by bola4dprec(m): 6:20pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
On 15 January 1966, Major Kaduna Nzeogwu and other junior Army officers (mostly majors and captains) attempted a coup d'état. It was generally speculated that the coup had been initiated by the Igbos, and for their own primary benefit, because of the ethnicity of those that were killed. The two major political leaders of the north, The prime Minister, Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and The Premier of the northern region, Sir Ahmadu Bello were executed by Major Nzeogwu. Also murdered was Sir Ahmadu Bello's wife. Meanwhile, the President, Sir Nnamdi Azikiwe, an Igbo, was on an extended vacation in the West Indies. He did not return until days after the coup. However, evidence exists to the contrary. For example, the coup was not only generally applauded in the Northern region, it was most successful there. The fact that only one Igbo officer, Lt Col Arthur Unegbe, was killed can be attributed to the mere fact that the officers in charge of implementing Nzeogwu's plans in the East were incompetent. The coup, also referred to as "The Coup of the Five Majors", has been described in some quarters as Nigeria's only revolutionary coup. I pity this old cargo (Achebe) prominent leaders of north were kill by Igbo young army officer forget to make reference to that effect |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by bola4dprec(m): 6:30pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, an Igbo and head of the Nigerian Army, taking power as President, becoming the first military head of state in Nigeria. The coup d'état itself failed, as Ironsi rallied the military against the plotters. But Ironsi did not bring the failed plotters to trial as requested by military law and as advised by most northern and western officers. Ironsi then instituted military rule, by subverting the constitutional succession and alleging that the democratic institutions had failed and that, while he was defending them, they clearly needed revision and clean-up before reversion back to democratic rule. The coup, despite its failure, was wrongly perceived as having benefited mostly the Igbo because most of the known coup plotters were Igbo. However Ironsi, himself an Igbo, was thought to have made numerous attempts to please Northerners. The other event that also fuelled the so- called "Igbo conspiracy" was the killing of Northern leaders, and the killing of the Colonel Shodeinde's pregnant wife by the coup executioners. Despite the overwhelming contradictions of the coup being executed by mostly Northern soldiers (such as John Atom Kpera later military governor of Benue State), the killing of Igbo soldier Lieutenant-Colonel Arthur Unegbe by coup executioners, and Ironsi's termination of an Igbo-led coup, the ease by which Ironsi stopped the coup led to suspicion that the Igbo coup plotters planned all along to pave the way for Ironsi to take the reins of power in Nigeria. It also ignored the fact that the army was largely composed of Northerners at the private level, but Igbo at the officer level, and thus promotions would have to draw upon a large body of Igbo officers. As the officer corps of the army was dominated by the Igbos logic would have had it that mainly Igbo officers could have been killed in the coup if there wasn't an "igbo Conspiracy". Achebe be warn although Awo is late but yoruba still remain back none of the nation |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Dede1(m): 7:13pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
kingoflag: Kingofool, You are a consummate fool as you moniker suggested. All you need to do is embark on empirical research about what transpired in Nigeria from January 15, 1966 to July 6, 1967. The coups did not lead to session rather usurpation of position of C-in-C, mockery of Nigerian military parlance by Gowon and pogrom in northern region of Nigeria led to the war. I derive joy watching a dullard such as you make fool of him\her self in public with respect to the foolish comments such as “Chinua Achebe, lest you forget, was Biafran Minister of Communication during the war”. I shall let you to continue wallowing in your intellectual stupor for a while, olodo. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Dede1(m): 7:28pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
kingoflag: African Continental Bank (ACB) was a property of defunct eastern regional government. It was not and never a sole property of Ndigbo. The state governments of Enugu, Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Imo, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers and Bayelsa have decided to liquidate the assets of the bank. Half education is one of the most serious handicaps inflicted on a human being. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by aribisala0(m): 8:05pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Dede1:The bolded is quite true and your display can only be described as an apotheotic exemplar. Must you write in English |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Dede1(m): 8:22pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
aribisala0: Where does it leave a dullard such as you that indulges in deification? |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by tomakint: 8:44pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Virtually all the principal actors of the ill-fated civil war are all dead, thank God Gowon is stil alive he may eventually be the rightful scapegoat to answer for his government genocidal crime against defenseless nursing mothers,pregnant women and little children which some human-demons on NL called spoils of war. Gowon repeated justification for the genocide is a credence to the fact that he was part of the plot to exterminate the Igbos and if eventually taken to the Hague, he might be nailed! 2 Likes |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by aribisala0(m): 8:47pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Dede1: Chineke me ! You are a dunce! You go open dictionary? even that you did and can neither comprehend or contextualize and you have the efffrontery to criticize others. No sir in this context apotheosis simply means "A PERFECT EXAMPLE" which is what your solecism ;"Half education is one of the most handicaps inflicted on a human being" is of that which it seeks to criticize. Anyway I better leave you alone before the radiator in your head starts overheating......,.,. from all these complex ideas Onye amaru akukwo! |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by AndreUweh(m): 10:34pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
tomakint: Virtually all the principal actors of the ill-fated civil war are all dead, thank God Gowon is stil alive he may eventually be the rightful scapegoat to answer for his government genocidal crime against defenseless nursing mothers,pregnant women and little children which some human-demons on NL called spoils of war. Gowon repeated justification for the genocide is a credence to the fact that he was part of the plot to exterminate the Igbos and if eventually taken to the Hague, he might be nailed!Well said. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Nobody: 11:24pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
St Finbarrs church was attacked in rayfield, Jos. Gowon must have been praying hard . .
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Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Jamisco: 10:42am On Oct 30, 2012 |
malele: This gowon is a fool. you can start the war again so that you can take his life. mind you, it was igbo that started the war, so you are highly welcomed. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Jamisco: 10:45am On Oct 30, 2012 |
quid: St Finbarrs church was attacked in rayfield, Jos. ask how many igbos were killed in the attack my dear before. a church has been also attacked in kaduna recently, pls is there any igbo casualty? |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Jamisco: 10:48am On Oct 30, 2012 |
tomakint: Virtually all the principal actors of the ill-fated civil war are all dead, thank God Gowon is stil alive he may eventually be the rightful scapegoat to answer for his government genocidal crime against defenseless nursing mothers,pregnant women and little children which some human-demons on NL called spoils of war. Gowon repeated justification for the genocide is a credence to the fact that he was part of the plot to exterminate the Igbos and if eventually taken to the Hague, he might be nailed! i dont think it was a plot to exterminate the igbos, it was a war |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Olaolufred(m): 10:51am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Kindly read this additional information from Odia Ofeimun. Kindly read all and save a copy on your Hard drive. It is better to be equiped with facts than to live on moonlight stories. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/10/the-achebe-controversy-awolowo-and-the-forgotten-documents-of-the-civil-war-by-odia-ofeimun/ |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Jamisco: 10:59am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Boboedom: For the first time, this man said something other than praying for Nigeria and it is complete rubbish. He is already panicking, he will never know peace. This is just the beginning. of your doom may be if you dont hear you can see how the Lord Jesus Christ preserved him. the blessed am among the blessed, looking younger all the time. thenk you lord for given such a leader to us amen |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by tomakint: 6:24pm On Oct 30, 2012 |
Jamisco:Friend, have u heard of 'Conspiracy Theory' before? To every conspirsacy theory, there is plot, lies and cover-up. We are talking of underlying facts here and not the opinionated views of most books written on the direct cause of the war. Pick any book on the war and u'l c the dissenting voices on the direct cause of the Kaduna Mafia/British war against the Igbos.Trust me we (the SW) were used! |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by tomakint: 6:25pm On Oct 30, 2012 |
Jamisco:Friend, have u heard of 'Conspiracy Theory' before? To every conspirsacy theory, there are plot, lies and cover-up. We are talking of underlying facts here and not the opinionated views of most books written on the direct cause of the war. Pick any book on the war and u'l c the dissenting voices on the direct cause of the Kaduna Mafia/British war against the Igbos.Trust me we(SW & others) were used 1 Like |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Ngodigha1(m): 6:28pm On Oct 30, 2012 |
tomakint:Don't mind the fools, they will never understand. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by ANALIST: 7:13pm On Oct 30, 2012 |
The truth is evolving, let's watch and see whether the pages of the books we've studied in the past were manipulated or not. In due time we will all analyse. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by justice11: 10:05am On Oct 31, 2012 |
Dede1: So Enugu, Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Imo, are no more ibo states, abi. You are the one with half education. You remember Nzeribe liquidate his bank after taking people's money those days too. In fact the major problem of Nigeria is bringing goat and sheep together!!! Yoruba race is never you people's equal! |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by justice11: 10:10am On Oct 31, 2012 |
and again, they will be the greatest to be hit again because all their economy is outside ibo land; are mostly in Lagos, etc. Jamisco: |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by justice11: 10:35am On Oct 31, 2012 |
tomakint: It is you and your father that were used, not we, the true sons of Yoruba. What u forgot is that one event led to the other. If there had never been the first Nigerian coup, or if the coup had never carried the ethnic tone, as it did, we would never had had this kind of history. The point is that, those killed in the coup, are they not fathers, mothers and relatives of some people? Even a pregnant wife of one the leaders was also killed. One evil begat another now!!! That apart, If Ojukwu had not declare secession, this wouldn't have happen. He wanted Awolowo to join without a single preparation on the part of Awo and the Yoruba nation. You forgot that he who fails to plan plans to fail? Papa Awo is a sage, he knew he could not prosecute a war with FG, so led some western and mid-western leaders to meet Ojukwu to exercise restrain because we are not ready. Don't forget Ojukwu had the Frenc leader, and some other nations backing him while Awo has never made any contact because he was in prison then. Had Ojukwu listen to the voice of wisdom, we wouldn't have this today. Or had Awo went to the war without adequate preparation, then you (if truly you are a Yoruba) would be blaming him today for the death, not to say annihilation, of your generation. Let's face the fact, if I'm in Awo's position, I will do the same, I mean not going to war, even if I have previously agreed to. Everyone just open his/her mouth blaming the man, when he left the prison, consulted with the Yoruba elders and those ones, being wise and being factual, intimate him with our none preparedness. What do you expect him to do? To sacrifice his race whom he loved so much and will not want them die? As a matter of fact, if Ojukwu is patriotic enough, why not surrender on time, even if he has to test his might in going to war. It is on record that he used child soldiers, on record that he refused FG aid for the masses, on record that he ran away, on record that he negotiated and got back all his properties, etc. So, let get it right. Awo did incredibly excellent by protecting his race, we are proud of him!!!! May his soul rest in peace!!! 1 Like |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by T9ksy(m): 11:44am On Oct 31, 2012 |
had Awo went to the war without adequate preparation, then you (if truly you are a Yoruba) would be blaming him today for the death, not to say annihilation, of your generation. Let's face the fact, if I'm in Awo's position, I will do the same, I mean not going to war, even if I have previously agreed to. Everyone just open his/her mouth blaming the man, when he left the prison, consulted with the Yoruba elders and those ones, being wise and being factual, intimate him with our none preparedness. What do you expect him to do? To sacrifice his race whom he loved so much and will not want them die? Exactly! Ojukwu knew the situation the yorubas were in at that time as Awo intimated him about during their enugu meeting........ You are remote from the West; you have advantages which we do not possess.We cannot rush without rushing to our death at the same time...[/ quote] This is ibotic thought stream aka iboism at its peak!!! So, because the yorubas did not sacrifice themselves for the ibos, they are wrongly tagged "cowards". Ore wo ni ipa she idi.............? Why on earth would Awo sacrifice his own people to aid the ibos? The same ibos who colluded with the northerners to have him and his deputies jailed on trumped up charges? The same ibos who sold us to the north on independence day. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by nku5: 2:14pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
Igbos planned with northerners to jail awo? Kindly shed more light on this thanks T9ksy: |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by dayokanu(m): 3:05pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
justice11: Justice, Do you actually believe tomakint is Yoruba? He is Igbo he is the same person as Andre Uweh, Ngodigha and Abadaba. Just because he went to school in UI doesnt mean he is Yoruba |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Afam4eva(m): 3:07pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
dayokanu:The fact that someone doesn't agree with your line of thought doesn't mean the person is not from your ethnic group. I never knew all Yorubas think alike, believe in the same things, worship the same God. The same thing applies to Igbos or any group. |
Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by Nobody: 3:09pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
This is the way forward
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Re: Achebe Wrote Out Of Ignorance - Gowon by dayokanu(m): 3:10pm On Oct 31, 2012 |
afam4eva: So you believe a Yoruba man would write the below about his tribe? tomakint: https://www.nairaland.com/1007745/ogoniland-declares-independence/8#11674909 |
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