tevinsolt:

so does that make the Gasing of Jews during the Holocaust right or wrong? does that make rape right or wrong?

be intellectually consistent

yah:

I am not talking theory like you, i work in one of the best hospitals in Nigeria. So you dont need to start teaching me how we treat malaria at all.

Logicboy03:



Kai!!!! See remixing ooo!!

You were debunked on Chloroquine and now you want to lie on Quinine?


Quinine is hardly used to treat malaria and is only used in certian cases as the quote clearly states.



Who told you tt quinine is the top choice for severe malaria? Lying again. Kai

Logicboy03:
The same hospitals that GEJ and his wife, Patience run away from?

davidylan:

1. Ok i know chemistry is not your strong point but? Ok bro let me educate you - the active ingredient in quinine is a quinoline. the active ingredient in chloroquine is a quinolin-4-amine (i.e. it simply has an extra amine group -NH2 on carbon 4 on the quinoline).
Both are virtually the same drug!

2. Read your own wiki link... quinine is the top choice drug for severe malaria (critical circumstances)... here it is posted again since you cant read - It remained the antimalarial drug of choice until the 1940s, when other drugs replaced it that have less unpleasant side effects. Since then, many effective antimalarials have been introduced, although [size=14pt]quinine is still used to treat the disease in certain critical circumstances, such as severe malaria,[/size]

Logicboy03:
Our evolutionary instincts already tell us that unnecessary killing is bad for the species as a whole.

Furthermore, the golden rule existed before Jesus christ. Doing unto others what you want done unto you. People knew this around the world. Even in Africa before the slave tradin christians brough their foreign religion to Africa

yah:

Abeg now, dont do this! Really!! Save a brother's life (dont mind whether he is theist or atheist)!!!

Reminds me of this joke:
[joke]
There was a very poor man and his 10 yr old son. They were so poor that getting a cup of gari to soak was tough. In fact they lived in "austerity"!
One day he gave his son some money to go buy some gari. Unfortunately, on his way back he was run over by a heavy truck.
A passer-by who saw the tragic accident quickly went to inform the father...

Passerby: Oga! oga! come trailer don jam your pikin o!

Father: The gari throw wey?!!!
[/joke]

yah:
davidylan, this is fooolishness. He is trying to argue with two people that work in the field at the same time? I wonder how he does it.

@logicboy, you see why i did not even bother to open your link (i knew it cannot disprove me in the first place), and refused to waste my time.

davidylan:

1. Ok i know chemistry is not your strong point but? Ok bro let me educate you - the active ingredient in quinine is a quinoline. the active ingredient in chloroquine is a quinolin-4-amine (i.e. it simply has an extra amine group -NH2 on carbon 4 on the quinoline).
Both are virtually the same drug!

yah:


Mehn, we just dey give this ignoramus free lectures, this aint fair.

Logicboy03:


So, people did not know that killing was wrong before moses (10 commandments) or Jesus came about? People didnt know that rape is bad?



Dont be foolish.


Our evolutionary instincts already tell us that unnecessary killing is bad for the species as a whole.

Furthermore, the golden rule existed before Jesus christ. Doing unto others what you want done unto you. People knew this around the world. Even in Africa before the slave tradin christians brough their foreign religion to Africa

davidylan:

How? Please explain.

Logicboy03:
1) Chloroquine and Quinine are not the same drug. Similar but not the same. Basic chemistry will tell you that simple alterations in the structure will give you basic difference between two substances. These drugs are even listed as different types of anit-malarial medications.

Logicboy03:
Even if they were the same, my point on the evolution of parasites becomes even better. The parasite has evolved and hgas greater resistance now to choloroquine...which would extend to quinine if they were exactly the same.

Logicboy03:
2) Quinine is not the top drug for sever malaria. The quote only says that it is used in CERTAIN critical circumstances of sever malaria. Stop lying.

Logicboy03:


Simple- basic evolutionary instincts tells us not to kill potential mating partners.

tevinsolt:

again where did the concept "WRONG" came about in your own world view......since you believe in moral relativity (that is moral standards are decided by societies, environmental condition......with that there is no absolute wrong or right according to you, when calabar people were killing twins they thought it was moral........so what do you have to say for yourself now?

tevinsolt: and when you say evolutionary/natural instinct why do you believe that?...........if you believe that then i guess you believe we have souls because they are both immaterial things

davidylan:

Actually that is NOT true. If indeed humans are just an evolutionary branch of which animals are a part... then it means our evolutionary instincts are the same as that of a lion or goat. Well in nature... survival of the fittest means many animals will kill their weak and the offspring of a rival mate in order to propagate their own lineage. On basic instinct alone, why are we different from animals?

Logicboy03:

Davidylan just lied that choloroquine and quinine are the same drug and you swallowed it? Fool

Logicboy03:



By basic instincts alone, we are animals. fool


What separates us is our thinking faculties.

Logicboy03:


Fool. I have answered this question in the previous post.


You create straw men and you want me to answer on your straw men terms.


Morality is shaped with evolutionary instincts, logic, interactions with society and family.


Logically, does it make sense to kill unnecessarily?Why do you ignore the part where I mentioned logic?




You have no idea about my ethics and so dont lecture me on my concept of "wrong". I think in terms of benefit, propbabilites, necessity and props and cons.

like i said you're not being smart enough......you create these category of evil and good in your head, it's abritrary, it your own bias, it's your own prejudice that informs you that something is evil.

if you're gonna be consistent in your atheism, you realize something is evil based on your bias and prejudice and it's all relative and subjective

davidylan: It gets tiring debating this ignorant oaf

davidylan:
they are essentially the same drug since their active ingredients are mere analogues of each other. Obviously you have no experience with chemistry.

davidylan:
This is quite daft. Where exactly did you get the "greater resistance to chloroquine" from?

davidylan:
Ok grammar is now a problem too? Read your statement that i highlighted and the statement from wiki - what you said is NOT the same as what wiki said...

You said - used in certain circumstances of severe malaria...

Wiki said - used in certain critical circumstances, such as severe malaria

Note how the use of the comma creates a completely different scenario.

Logicboy03:


What does evolution have to do with souls?


Are you serious?

so you don't believe there's a YOU apart from the physical reactions and electrical impulses happening in your head? i tire ooooo

tevinsolt:


like i said you're not being smart enough......you create these category of evil and good in your head, it's abritrary, it your own bias, it's your own prejudice that informs you that something is evil.

if you're gonna be consistent in your atheism, your realize something is evil based on your bias and it's all relative and subjective

tevinsolt:

so you don't believe there's a YOU apart from the physical reactions and electrical impulses happening in your head? i tire ooooo

sadeiyare: Statistically, not the atheists on Nairaland, they are the most immoral in-here ; must you insult to win an argument

Logicboy03:

You are a hypocrite


You ignored all the insults and abuse to my intelligence only to focus on my well deserved retaliation?


You really ignored the abuse given by your fellow christians? How are you not immoral?


Epic fail

Logicboy03:

You are a real fool. I have given a very clear explanation of ow human morality works and I have answered your questions clearly.

Foolish troll.

Logicboy03:


Fail....just fail....you are an epic fail


Nothing more....