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Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by plappville(f): 10:46am On Dec 26, 2012 |
alexleo: Where did the bible instruct african women to perm your hair because its hard to comb. Perming changes your hair from its natural state just like bleaching cream and soap changes the colour of the body from its natural state. Using soap to bath is to remove dirt from your body and its completely different from perming. Yet when the soap or cream begins to bleach you the next thing you do as a child of God is to change to another type of soap or cream. Now you are accusing us of celebrating christ when the bible, according to you, did not instruct us and here you are doing perming that the bible did not instruct you and you claim you follow the scriptures. You dey try no be small. SOAP BODY CREAM BE IT BLEACHING OR NOT ARE ALL COSMETICS, THE WORLDLY THINGS DID NOT MENTION THEM AS WORLDLY THINGS BUT THE INTERPRETATION OF THE POSTER DID CLASSIFIED THEM AS WORLDLINESS. THE BIBLE SIMPLY TREATS BIRTHDAY ISSUES, I HAVE PRESENTED SCRIPTURES NOT MY WORDS. IT IS LEFT FOR YOU TO JUDGE YOURSELF. «perming ur hair has no worldliness, if you don´t relax it, you have a strong hair, men have no course to do this as they carry short hair. the bible spoke about women hair as thier glory, caring for your natural hair mark no sin to God. you are adding to Gods word. except you prove me wrong by providing no perm/care for ur hair secripture just like i provided verses that proved how negetive birthday is.» You came to this this world with nothing, so if worldliness is misinterpreted as the use of care products, then you haave no reason to use soap. they all have trace of chimic. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by alexleo(m): 10:48am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid: Pagans cannot celebrate chirst. You are just dancing around the question he asked you. I didnt know you are such a skillful dancer. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Zikkyy(m): 10:57am On Dec 26, 2012 |
true2god: One thing most pple dnt understand is dat the present day calender system(especially gregorian calender) and days namings were all named after stranges gods. Sunday in particular was names after the god of the SUN, and d day (sunday) was the day dedicated to idol worship during the greeko-roman empire. Thank you my brother, I have laid something similar before my anti Xmas brothers & sisters in the past but they will pretend not to see it cos they are blinded by their bias. They live a pagan derived life, but its only Christmas they see. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by alexleo(m): 11:12am On Dec 26, 2012 |
You are just dancing around my sister because this one of perming favours you. You explaination here only shows you are being selective in your following the bible. You asked the guy where God said you shouldnt perm and i asked you were God said you should perm you started dancing around. Did the apostles wives perm their hair? Where the issue of hair was mentioned in the new testament did they ask you to perm it? You said we should follow the apostles , that since they didnt celebrate the birth of Christ we shuldnt. why are you deviating in this one? You cant tell me that soap or cream that changes natural texture of your hair or skin are the same with the ones that dont. Employing that word cosmetics to answer the question i asked is only a desperate atempt to cover up. I can show you thousands of ladies whose hair sre still natural and neat. So dont talk as if without perming your hair goes wild. Again the quotation you provided for birthday does not mean we shouldnt celebratr birthday. Zikky asked you a question here and i repeat- why did God not stop his prophets from sacrificing to him when he knew the prophets of baal sacrificed same way? plappville: |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Nobody: 11:14am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Zikkyy: It has nothing to do with balls. Your question about labelling it as sinful is childish at best - it's why it's been largely ignored. If something is steeped in paganism, and God condemns mixing his worship with paganism, the implication is obvious. 3 Likes |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Zikkyy(m): 11:20am On Dec 26, 2012 |
true2god: Lets look at another angle of event\fashion, something not quite related to xmas. When i was in school i used to attend one xtain fellowship where i was told that the wearing of Jeans is against the word of God. We were told the history of peaple dat started the use of Jeans trousiers hw bad they are and their association with pple of the dark world. Incidentally over 70% of we guys in dat meeting were putting on Jean trousiers. True talk. But I know my people, they pretend you did not make this post. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Zikkyy(m): 11:25am On Dec 26, 2012 |
plappville: Hahaha I no fit shout. See as you dey fight as if the ownership of your makeup kit depend on this discussion |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:25am On Dec 26, 2012 |
alexleo: Lol.....I sabi dance o for real life but not when it comes to scriptural issues............if you had been listening,the catholics had to gloss the pagan festivals to attract pagans but it didn't work........instead the christians have turned out pagans........neither are you or the pagans celebrating christ....you both are seriously on your own.............you have to face the truth and let go of xmas...........if not you go be follow follow of pagans......smh!!!!!...... |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:29am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Zikkyy: True2God forgets that paganism and service to God shouldn't mix............abi him no know??...trying to justify why xmas is celebrated has no basis in the scriputures......you guys can keep celebrating,but don't attach Jesus to it.....Jesus never for once worshipped other gods so as to celebrate birthdays or set a legacy for his servants to follow..........he worshipped only Yahweh........and worshipping Yahweh had to do with staying far away from pagan customs and practices..... |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Nobody: 11:34am On Dec 26, 2012 |
true2god: One thing most pple dnt understand is dat the present day calender system(especially gregorian calender) and days namings were all named after stranges gods. Sunday in particular was names after the god of the SUN, and d day (sunday) was the day dedicated to idol worship during the greeko-roman empire. About the issue of Sunday, obviously from a Christian perspective Sunday is just another day. Some wrongly try to equate it with the Jewish Sabbath, but that would fall on a Saturday and keeping Sabbath day is not required for Christians. There are those who meet for worship on other days in the week. Saturday and Sunday is used by many for worship including evangelism because they are secularly non-working days so the free days are thus utilized. This is different from Christmas, where of all 365 days, 25 Dec was copied from the pagans alongside other practices like the trees, Santa, etc that bears nothing to Christianity. And while God expressly commands meeting together for worship regularly and biblical examples concur it was thus practiced by the Apostles, it says nothing about celebrating Christ's birthday or anyone else's for that matter. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by true2god: 11:34am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:Do u watch any event at the last olympics on the television? |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Zikkyy(m): 11:35am On Dec 26, 2012 |
TroGunn: Hahahaha this is all you have to day? Well I can conclude you don't the balls required to respond to a childish question now that my question suddenly became childish. You guys have shown your views here are personal. I have nothing more to say to you. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by alexleo(m): 11:35am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid: And the truth is that am celebrating Christ. Pagans dont and can never celebrate Christ |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by honeric01(m): 11:36am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Zikkyy: No,you haven't told us the practices that needs to go (christian) if Christmas is to be termed (which is) a pagan practice. http://www.bereanresearchinstitute.com/05_Other_Issues/OTH.0011_Is_Christmas_Scriptural.html |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:40am On Dec 26, 2012 |
alexleo: Your not celebrating Christ......rather you are celebrating the birthday of the sun god.......na lie??............. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Rich4god(m): 11:42am On Dec 26, 2012 |
I have been following this thread from page 1, but i just dont want to comment cos me and some other guys have agued this issue out in some other thread with plappvile and co. But i just want to ask 1 question to you plapvile. If i go to church on xmas day,came back, eat what ever i have at home, visit friends/friends visit me and then pass out gifts to loved ones and less privilege. Does that makes me an idol worshipper? Am waiting for your answer. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:43am On Dec 26, 2012 |
true2god: Do u watch any event at the last olympics on the television? NO.....only saw highlights on CNN and supersports..............the olympics ofcus is pagan............I don answer ya question......... |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:45am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Rich4god: I have been following this thread from page 1, but i just dont want to comment cos me and some other guys have agued this issue out in some other thread with plappvile and co. But i just want to ask 1 question to you plapvile. If i go to church on xmas day,came back, eat what ever i have at home, visit friends/friends visit me and then pass out gifts to loved ones and less privilege. Does that makes me an idol worshipper? Am waiting for your answer. Did you go to church,eat,visit freinds,and passed out gifts because of xmas??........if you answer this then it answers your question.... |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Nobody: 11:50am On Dec 26, 2012 |
Zikkyy: It actually takes more balls to reject a popular celebration like Christmas because of it's pagan roots. Same as it tooks balls to read/translate the Bible against popular and Church opinion and threat of death back in the days - which led to death of many "heretics". Same balls to reject pagan Trinity, no matter how popular. It's actually weakness to know the truth about something that's bad, but keep spewing wimpy excuses just to keep doing it so you don't stand out as different. Real christians are not afraid to be different. 2 Likes |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by alexleo(m): 11:52am On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:Dancer. ijawkid:Its a lie only in your mind and i couldnt be bothered anyway. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 11:54am On Dec 26, 2012 |
alexleo:Lol.....which of the dance??azonto or etigi?? alexleo: This is about facts......you are not celebrating Christ rather you are celebrating the sun God.....ask pagan9ja for more info..... |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by true2god: 12:04pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
TroGunn:The igbo calender system is different frm the gregorian calender system. The igbos has four market days in a week: orie, afor, eke, and nkwo. The seventh week is reserved for culturral festival (28 day cycle make 1 month). If an igbo church decides to hold her monthly program evry 28 days will dat be tantamount to idol worship cos the native pple equally place significance on dat day? Sunday is not just anoda day in xtainity, it is a day they revered just as the muslims revered friday. Meanwhile sunday is a date equally reverd by the greeko-roman empire as a day reserve for serving their god. Maybe there is no funfares evry sunday, unlike xmas. Wen i went to onitsha some yrs back sundays are celebrated. As i said earlier, Dec 25 nevertheless can not be said to be the day christ was born. But if a date is set aside, officially to mark the birth of a great personality, ther is norring wrong with dat. If we want to 'paganize' all events\days i bet u, u may not even hav a meaningful life to live. Our present calender system is a product of astrology\astronomy yet the whole world never seen anythin wrong with it (remeber the bible condemn astrology). Our wedding ring is a product of hinduism and yet all churches practised it. The olympics is dedicated to greek god Zeus and yet all human race and religion participate and follow the olympic events. The issue is dat its not a crime to condemn an event. If u want to condenm a practice or event u need to condemn it in its entirety and any associated event. If u say its not good for a xtain to celebrate xmas, u should also say its not good for a xtain to participate in the olympics, it is not good for a xtain to use wedding ring, its not good for xtain to worship on sunday and giv any sanctity to it. It is not good for a xtain to use the present calender system (its a product of astrology) it is only biase if u condemn xmas and practice the rest, dats tantamount to hypocricy. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Nobody: 12:17pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
true2god: The igbo calender system is different frm the gregorian calender system. The igbos has four market days in a week: orie, afor, eke, and nkwo. The seventh week is reserved for culturral festival (28 day cycle make 1 month). If an igbo church decides to hold her monthly program evry 28 days will dat be tantamount to idol worship cos the native pple equally place significance on dat day? There is nowhere in the bible that calls for a sacred day each week. Biblically Sunday, Saturday are just ordinary days, irrespective of what people do in Onitsha or Norway. Christians abide by biblical principles, not popular practices. About the wedding ring, I admit I don't know much about it's origin and I intend to look deeply into it to see if it involves celebrating any pagan gods. A quick check on wiki showed no such connections, though I saw something online about rings being given by Egyptians to signify eternity of their intentions, same thing the wedding ring signifies. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by true2god: 12:24pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:U didnt watch the olympic u only saw clips or highlights on cnn and supersports. The highlight u watched on supersports is not an olympic event abi. I bet u, the highlight u watched on supersports can take 3 to 4 hrs of ur time. so dnt be econimical with the truth, u watched and followed the olympic events to the fullest and i knw u knw osain bolt of jamaica and u watched him run. Did osain bolt or any other athlete worship any idol at the olympics. Of course we knw the history of the event in greece but this modern era has given the event another meaning devoid of its pagan origin. While im not an advocate of subtutitive religion, the fact remains dat the pagan origin of the olympics has long lost its significance. The pagan origin of sundays had lost its significance, the pagan origin of xmas had lost its significance, the pagan origin of exchangin wedding rings had lost its significant. No one is offerin a sacrifice to any idol in any of these events. Its rather a time of joy and celebration. I dnt knw if u r gerring my points. I can have a 1000 and 1 reasons to condemn anything i dnt like. There is always a point to justify an action while might seem logical to an average person. Thats the power of human reasoning. 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Rich4god(m): 12:25pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:I did that because of xmas. Does that makes me a pagan? |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by true2god: 12:29pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid: |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Rich4god(m): 12:33pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:This is the most funny response i have ever seen in NL... Whats the different between the highlight and the live one. Or are they not showing the same people. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 12:33pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Rich4god: You are asking the same question zikky asked.........and answer has been given.........this thread was opened to expose christmas as a myth and also pagan.........and you should by now be able to answer your question..........stop asking me questions you already have answers to.......smh!!!.... 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Rich4god(m): 12:38pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
ijawkid:Ok... Plz, are you a worker or a student. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 12:38pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Rich4god: Lol....so I should run away from my TV when sports update comes on ??...........you should know CNN and super sports would show anything NEWS......and I watch all........direct your questions to those who engage in the olympics or take sides, not me............. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by ijawkid(m): 12:39pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Rich4god: I'm a CORPER............. |
Re: Christians, Can You Trace The History Of Your Feastival......? by Zikkyy(m): 12:42pm On Dec 26, 2012 |
Rich4god: According to ijawkid, you are a pagan for eating the food you cooked, you are a pagan for visiting friends and bonding with your loved one. You are a pagan for being happy that Christ was born. |
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