eddy spice:
@ zikkyy the orgin of what we take part in matters.

eddy spice:
can we say its okay to partake because Jesue name is mention in d festival but every facet of d orginal festival is still practiced would u partake?Exodus 32:1-12 and 32:21-28

eddy spice:
for example if a juju priest claim he is now a follower of christ but decides to convert all his juju festival to a festival for christ,can we say its okay to partake because Jesue name is mention in d festival but every facet of d orginal festival is still practiced would u partake?Exodus 32:1-12 and 32:21-28

ijawkid:
It has made professed christians one and the same with pagans.....xmas has even made many pagans remain pagans.......of what use is it becoming a christian when I would still engage in the same pagan acts I once practiced??...........ofcus muslims,atheists and the Jews would be laughing so hard seeing how many professed christians engage in the saturnalia celebration while hiding behind the cloak of celebrating Christs birthday which he never initiated..............

My bro its a shame.....pagans are laughing at us.........Christmas has done nothing but recruit more and more pagans.........

Zikkyy:

I asked a question in some time back and your guys quietly avoided it, maybe you can answer if you have the courage.

"what if I decided to celebrate the birth of Christ by a dedicating a day once a year for it, a day I chose, and I spend the day giving praises. Do you consider my action a sin? If yes kindly state why"

ijawkid:

Because y'all insist the birthday of Christ must be celebrated and on a false date.......Christ himself never celebrated his birthday let alone allowing humans presumptuously choosing to do so and again on a pagan date...............don't you see it??................

ijawkid:
......if early christians had to abandon jewish festivals which they were once commanded to observe just to make sure they follow Christ,I wonder why you guys would steal a pagan festival to celebrate Christ and expect Christ to open his teeth and smile..............

ijawkid:
but you do know bible principles as regards paganism and idol worship..............if you had existed in the times of the isrealite and you adopt pagan customs even if you choose to use it to serve God,you'll be struck dead............

ijawkid:
What word??....ask alexleo if the pope who instituted the xmas celebration and fixing it on december 25th had not done it would (alexleo) be celebrating xmas today.....??......

Alexleo celebrates xmas because he saw people doing it not because he on his own would have engaged in it..........isn't the observance of the death of Jesus Christ enough for christians to commemorate according to Jesus' command??..........

ijawkid:
this is not about belief,this is about the truth and how Christ would look at things...

truthislight:

birth day celebration is not an example set for us by the Jews faithful/partriachs and the christians followers of christ.

The celebration of birthday is a partan shown to be of wordhipers of satan.

"salvation originate from the Jews. John 4:22

^^^ else you will be following a partan that is clearly synonimouse with the Gentile and wordhipers of satan.

It is your choice my friend.

The sister is doing her best to show that we should follow the example set for us if we dont want to take any risk of making mistake.

God Yahweh and satan dont shear anything in common.

You cannot either slave for two masters.

God and the tradition of men that was set by satan for the befor christ came and befor Yahweh revealed his law to israel.

Did you think that Yahweh forgot the date of christ birth if the day of christ birth was really important?

frosbel:
There is nowhere in the bible where we are commanded to celebrate the birthday of Christ talk less of falsely and arrogantly making it the 25th of December, which we all know is a pagan day.

Zikkyy: And just before I sign off, I will like to use this opportunity to wish my anti-xmas brother's and sister (ljawkid, truthislight & plappville) a very merry Xmas celebration. Wishing you a 'bombastic' Xmas . Please don't drink and drive, I very much want to read your posts in year 2013

Zikkyy:

e be like you self don adopt the robotic approach to interpreting scriptures. since you say the bible did not command the celebration of Christ birthday, can you please post the list of the biblical list of dos and don'ts so we don't err am expecting that list o! you know one is involved in a lot of activities these days and i need that list to ensure i adhere 100%

^^

Yule
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For other uses, see Yule (disambiguation).

Yule

Hauling a Yule log, 1832
Also called Yuletide, Yulefest
Observed by Northern Europeans and various English-speaking people
Type Cultural, Germanic Pagan then Christian, secular, and contemporary Paganism
Significance Winter Festival
Date Moved to December 25 with Gregorian calendar, likely originally on and/or around midwinter[1][2]
Related to Christmas, Winter solstice (Midwinter), quarter days, Wheel of the Year, Winter Festivals

Yule or Yuletide ("Yule time" ) is a religious festival observed by the Northern European peoples, later being absorbed into and equated with the Christian festival of Christmas. The earliest references to Yule are by way of indigenous Germanic month names (Ærra Jéola (Before Yule) or Jiuli and Æftera Jéola (After Yule). Scholars have connected the celebration to the Wild Hunt, the god Odin and the pagan Anglo-Saxon Modranicht.

Terms with an etymological equivalent to Yule are used in the Nordic countries for Christmas with its religious rites, but also for the holidays of this season. Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas. Customs such as the Yule log, Yule goat, Yule boar, Yule singing, and others stem from Yule. A number of Neopagans have introduced their own rites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule

ijawkid:
What word??....ask alexleo if the pope who instituted the xmas celebration and fixing it on december 25th had not done it would (alexleo) be celebrating xmas today.....??......

Alexleo celebrates xmas because he saw people doing it not because he on his own would have engaged in it..........isn't the observance of the death of Jesus Christ enough for christians to commemorate according to Jesus' command??..........

Christmas is an outright fraud and an insult on Jesus......

eddy spice:
@zikkyy giving of gift is highly recommended in d scriptures(acts 20:35)which is part of christian living every tym.

eddy spice:
however,for me i am not againts giving gift at a particular tym i am highlighting on d orgin of d celeberation and its uniformity among those who celebrated it world wide

Zikkyy:

Pagans did not celebrate Christ. So what's this talk about stealing a pagan festival?


Are you now saying we should adopt the laws of the old testament?

truthislight:

"I jump am pass"

not For me guy.

Party and having of fun is turning to the trap that will catch you on this.

frosbel:
I simply stated that Christmas is not a Christian holiday , used to be called Yuletide especially in Europe and has nothing to do with Christ or his message.

truthislight:

birth day celebration is not an example set for us by the Jews faithful/partriachs and the christians followers of christ.

The celebration of birthday is a partan shown to be of wordhipers of satan.

"salvation originate from the Jews. John 4:22

^^^ else you will be following a partan that is clearly synonimouse with the Gentile and wordhipers of satan.

It is your choice my friend.

The sister is doing her best to show that we should follow the example set for us if we dont want to take any risk of making mistake.

God Yahweh and satan dont shear anything in common.

You cannot either slave for two masters.

God and the tradition of men that was set by satan for the befor christ came and befor Yahweh revealed his law to israel.

Did you think that Yahweh forgot the date of christ birth if the day of christ birth was really important?

frosbel: When I say SOME Pentecostals are Catholics I attract insults.

Just a few of the doctrines they hold in common :

Trinity
Christmas
Easter
Eternal torment
Immortal Soul

etc..............

truthislight:

pegan celebrate birth days.

Birthday celebration is pegan and you also celebrate it.

You and pegan have that is common.

Servant of Yahweh and christ dont celebrate birthdays. No? Then show me where they did?

You are a pegan of one of them then if you dont show me.

Christianity means followers of christ and not followers of pegans.

Zikkyy:
"what if I decided to celebrate the birth of Christ by a dedicating a day once a year for it, a day I chose, and I spend the day giving praises. Do you consider my action a sin? If yes kindly state why"

Zikkyy: Why is the anti-xmas community avoiding this question na?

alexleo:

Because what they are accusing us of is baseless and has no biblical backing. They are just talking out of their personal likes and dislikes.

Zikkyy: Why is the anti-xmas community avoiding this question na?

Zikkyy: ^^^ Well am off to meet up with my crew for some xmas merry-ment hope somebody would developed some set of balls before i get back and provided an answer to my question

alexleo:

Because what they are accusing us of is baseless and has no biblical backing. They are just talking out of their personal likes and dislikes.

alexleo:

Yes we dont see anything unbiblical about these things and if you call us catholics for this reason, no problem.

Zikkyy:

I like you, you are more reasonable that is not to say i don't like my other anti-xmas brothers and sister o!



I said something in one of my posts here. we should consider if the larger population of peeps celebrating Christmas are Christians. If we say the celebration is not done in a manner acceptable to God by true Christians, that would be a concern. If you adopt the issue of origin, then i will say all form of worship ultimately originated from the initial practice by Cain and Abel. Pagan worship has its origin from worship of God, you think that make pagan worship acceptable to God? Why would intent matter in such case and not matter when it comes to the issue of Christmas?