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It is usually the "failures" that condemn it.
Will you ever see an Engineer in Chevron or LNG say his University Education is a waste?

Successful people will highlight the "deficient areas of our curricula" but the failures will say "it is a waste".
Ofcourse, "who will the Fly take side with, if not the man with a sore"? - Yoruba proverb



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dblackninja:


I see no real difference btw you & a road side mechanic, but I bet you that a road side mechanic will be far more experienced than you in the mechanic work you're rendering
The only difference I see is that while the road side mechanic may be the owner of his company , you're working for someone. & I don't think the pay is good hence you won't be a "Jack of all trade".

dblackninja:


I see no real difference btw you & a road side mechanic, but I bet you that a road side mechanic will be far more experienced than you in the mechanic work you're rendering
The only difference I see is that while the road side mechanic be the owner of his company , you're working for someone. & I don't think the pay is good else you won't be a "Jack of all trade".

dblackninja:


Like seriously?? Oh my I would have given you 6 strokes of cain for the goof you made by labelling it wrong. My kind sir, machineries is sooo correct as a word. Engineering students have suffered so much in the hands of people on their use of English. Don't add to it biko
English
Etymology
From French machinerie (“machinery”), from
machine (“machine”); see machine.
Pronunciation
enPR : mə-shē'nə-rē, IPA ( key) : /məˈʃiːnəɹi/
Rhymes: -iːnəɹi
Audio (US) ( file )
Noun
machinery ( countable and uncountable, plural
machinery )
1. The machines constituting a production apparatus, in a plant etc., collectively.
2. The working parts of a machine as a group.
3. The collective parts of something which allow it to function.
4. ( figuratively) The literary devices used in a work, notably for dramatic effect.

I repeat, there is nothing like machineries young man.

I stand to be corrected here. So you think all Engineers do know English. Sorry, you have meant the wrong one


There's a reason I used [ ] when I mentioned the cassava milling factory. I didn't mean you work there, just insinuating to drive a point but seems am right
Now look at the bolded, what are you saying? You don't work there but you are working there You are going & coming?? Anyway I gat your gist


You just succeeded in telling us that you're a sales man...smh And I thought that you're creating & designing screws.

abouzaid you see the benefits this engineer got from his 5 yrs in the university?

mysticgal:
My law degree is a waste of not only Time but energy.
As I have passion for radio talks and catering.

kaboninc:


No knowledge is a waste...not even a Law Degree for that matter. You would need it handy someday.

mysticgal:

Ok
Did Mr hattss contact you?

dblackninja:


Is it his grammar or the point?

EdoBoy90:
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Hahaha, u have no fact. You are full with animosity. I have seen a lot of road mechanics. The kind of machines or equipment I am expose to don't have a dine of knowledge of them.

There are some cars they can't work on.
When I talk, they listen attentively.

When I want to start my own company, I will have it in big way. I do professional home services for the rich at my own leisure time.
people like you can't service or repairs their cars I where I work because you are clouded with poor mentality. Your expressions are full with animosity.
I have worked with top government functionaries young man.

Let me just mention a few here, Elizade Motors, Coshari, Larrel Shittu Motors, Kojo Motors etc. You can't service your car in any of the above. You don't even have a car. The company has five branches in Nigeria and I am in the Abuja branch.
Go and do research about Toyota Motor Corporation divisions in Nigeria

SIRTee15:


education is not definitely a waste.....
but the truth remains our higher education curriculum needs to be seriously reviewed.....

Now, universities are meant to focus on high level technology that has more to do with creativity, innovation, critical thinking, scientific discovery, research and development.

low and medium level technology is about practical hands-on, skill acquisition n vocational training, these are meant to be taught in technical colleges, institute of technology etc.........
Thus, learning is meant for university while training is for colleges, polytechnic etc

Nigeria is a developing economy and the kind of jobs it can attract are mainly ones that require low and medium level technology and this is where the problem lies.......
The Nigerian graduate is not trained to function at this level of technology.........
the Nigerian graduate is largely unskilled n untrained, all he has is a certificate. unfortunately, the system gas no use for this........

Therefore, the Nigerian educational system should focus on developing capacity building on low to medium level technology to enhance industrial production and capacity through production of skilled and trained workforce.........
This should be the bedrock of our development.....

Low and medium level technology is what is needed to operate simple n complex machines in factories; establish low and intermediate scale manufacturing; production of consumer n household goods; produce basic pharmaceutical; engage in shipbuilding and steel manufacturing; electronic n car assembling plants; solar technology; produce skilled technician that can construct roads, bridges, tunnels, skyscrapers; establish a vibrant textile industry that can compete against foreign imports; modernise our agriculture esp in the area of irrigation, storage n preservation, mechanization; training quality artisans that not only replicate but also add value to jobs given to them; development of the value chain in our industrial sector......
we also don't need graduates to work in majority of jobs available in our service sector........
if the job is not highly specialized requiring specific skills, then a diploma certificate holder will suffice.
and our technical institutions can be responsible for that.......

govt needs to revive our comatose technical institutions scattered all over the country, they should be adequately funded n their curriculum be structured to fit the need of our present economy.

skill acquisition n practical learning should be the bedrock of these institute and industrial training should be introduced right from year one.
there should be less of classroom learning n more of work experience.
courses that has no practical basis should not be offered in these schools, there's really no point.

90% of our teeming youths seeking higher education qualification should be encouraged to attend these schools as this is what the country need right now.

entry into main university should be cut down to less than 10% of its present number. the country do not need so many graduates right now.......
what it has managed to do is breed a bunch of frustrated graduates as evidenced by comments in this thread......

let's do this and watch as our nation become an industrial giant 10 yrs after its implementation......
This is the model in Germany n that is why they are immune to the recession nonsense in Europe.......

MhizVeronica:

his point

dblackninja:

Aah aah! Why sir? I bear no acrimony against you my good sir. This is just about our Nigerian university educational system being a waste of time or not. Open your company & I will surely patronize you if am close by

Until you become innovative, I can't rate you above a road side mechanic. You might be educated, but he has the experience and can source for solution with his critical thinking when a dire problem arises unlike you that will be consulting a textbook.

We have Toyota Manual we consult. We only consult toyota manual when we have complex problems. We deal on latest cars with modern technology.

I have the experience than a roadside mechanic young man. Read my early posts, I have been with them and worked with the roadside mechanics before I rose to this level. For now, with my voluminous experience, they can't dare me because I have the knowledge, experience, theory and I am educated too.

I do diagnose cars for some of them and they pay me well. They can't interpret "fault codes".



Oh good. Just that I was shocked that you, a mechanical engineer working with a car company is also working with a garri factory

EdoBoy90:


English
Etymology
From French machinerie (“machinery”), from
machine (“machine”); see machine.
Pronunciation
enPR : mə-shē'nə-rē, IPA ( key) : /məˈʃiːnəɹi/
Rhymes: -iːnəɹi
Audio (US) ( file )
Noun
machinery ( countable and uncountable, plural
machinery )
1. The machines constituting a production apparatus, in a plant etc., collectively.
2. The working parts of a machine as a group.
3. The collective parts of something which allow it to function.
4. ( figuratively) The literary devices used in a work, notably for dramatic effect

dblackninja:


Like seriously you want to pursue this path?
By the way, where did you crop out that half baked information?
And what is "countable" doing there?
Your next reply will indicate whether I will give you 6 strokes and then educate you, that's how I do back then.

EdoBoy90:

We have Toyota Manual we consult. We only consult toyota manual when we have complex problems. We deal on latest cars with modern technology.

I have the experience than a roadside mechanic young man. Read my early posts, I have been with them and worked with the roadside mechanics before I rose to this level. For now, with my voluminous experience, they can't dare me because I have the knowledge, experience, theory and I am educated too.

I do diagnose cars for some of them and they pay me well. They can't interpret "fault codes".

dblackninja:


Very good. Thanks for admitting that you use textbooks & manuals when faced with complex problems. A road side mechanic will just use his critical thinking to solve the problem easily.

Don't say what you don't know. We do neat job and that is why we don't touch a customer's car any how. We work with safety and precautions.

There are some vehicles a roadside mechanic can't work on, in this aspect we dwell on more critical thinking than the roadside mechanics. I said we used manual provided by Toyota. Even your phone has manual young man. when purchasing a car, they will give you the car's manual from the manufacturer of that product. Unfortunately, you have not bought one yet.

I hope you know that the first person to ever design a mechanical car didn't grab instructions from a book.

Stop arguing blindly young man, Henry Ford is the first automobile engineer. Go and read his history. Dr. Otto Diesel, go and read his history too. Diesel engine was designed by Dr. Otto Diesel that is where the name "Diesel" was coined from.

Okay you have worked with a road side mech. Very cool. You have shown us that the university didn't teach you anything, but you got your experience from a roadside mech, then used your cert to get a job. Kudos, now I know you think outside the box

EdoBoy90:
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Sir, go and do research about it. I stand to be corrected because nobody is perfect. But on this one, I will beat you hand down.

You have not countered me yet. This is an engineering term especially mechanical engineering as my field.

Caracta:
My degree is not a waste. I learnt beyond the lectures and tutorials. I didn't limit myself to the 'classroom experience.' It was a life experience for me.

EdoBoy90:
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Sincerely speaking, you are a layman here so you have nothing to offer. Read my first post. You are just arguing blindly.

Which course did you study? let me assess you and know if you have contributed to the society or solved a problem not complex problem. I have contributed to the society and solved complex problems.

MhizVeronica:

smh wat u just said is very wrong

dblackninja:


Hahaha I didn't say you haven't contributed to the society or solved problems, neither did I insinuate that sir. I'm just doing a comparison.
Knowing the course I studied wouldn't help anything.
But if you must know it's computer science and I don't even remember I have a degree there I generate my money fully online sir, without pains, sweat or waisting precious time.
Heck what did I even learn there? Nothing! I left the uni with no programming skills, just loads of textbooks and how to on & shut down a computer
Nothing tangible

I learnt the skills I now have elsewhere and online. It was after I left the uni I realised how I wasted lots of time & money. Nigerian university educational system is just wack

seamus387:
Been a biochemistry graduate has open my eyes to a lot of thing and hopping to do my MSC in genetic engineering or molecular biology in germany. Am nt loosing hope yet. Going to sch is nt a waste of time 4 me.

dblackninja:


Hahaha I didn't say you haven't contributed to the society or solved problems, neither did I insinuate that sir. I'm just doing a comparison.
Knowing the course I studied wouldn't help anything.
But if you must know it's computer science and I don't even remember I have a degree there I generate my money fully online sir, without pains, sweat or waisting precious time.
Heck what did I even learn there? Nothing! I left the uni with no programming skills, just loads of textbooks and how to on & shut down a computer
Nothing tangible

I learnt the skills I now have elsewhere and online. It was after I left the uni I realised how I wasted lots of time & money. Nigerian university educational system is just wack

OloriAbefe:
Since evry1 gat something(s) to say, I have to say my own too.
To me, It's partially a complete waste of time, if I had known better earlier ehn, I would have gone for one or two professional courses to be informed and updated.
And you wonder y I said partially
Well, that was where I met my beloved husband, and as my mother will always say, she said and I quote "God sent me to that school not because of the cert. but to meet my future husband".

mysticgal:

Ok
Did Mr hattss contact you?

EdoBoy90:
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Education still helps you in term of reading and writing and to assimilate too during the period you acquired the skills.

Hope you are not doing "Yahoo" or "GEE".