Kay 17: Isn't it obvious from DeepSight's threads and posts that he sees a divine will in the Universe because of the meaning it implies. In other words, Deepsight creates his God because of the meaning he seeks thereof.

Hence a psychological conditioning

Joshthefirst: do you see a divine will in the universe?

God of course can be a psychological conditioning. But you can't speak this to those who encountered him and still walk with him and claim to know him and back up their claims with their lives.

Humans have been making up gods for some time.
But the bible( and indeed our very lives) teach and show that God, allowing humans to realize that they couldn't decipher his being and attributes psychologically, came down and walked among them. Showing his true character.

It is this God that I met. I never ascribed character or human morals to him. That would be an insult and me acting like an ordinary idol worshipper.

I met this God. But of course, you won't believe me.

Just like the people whom Jesus walked among didn't believe him when he claimed to be the one.

Joshthefirst: Deepsight, are morals human?

Logicboy03:



Bullshite

plaetton:

Seconded.
God is invisible, but I talk and walk with him.
Sounds familiar?
Yeah.
A diagnosable and treatable disorder.
There is a name for it.

plaetton:

Seconded.
God is invisible, but I talk and walk with him.
Sounds familiar?
Yeah.
A diagnosable and treatable disorder.
There is a name for it.

Deep Sight:

Not entirely. If your white blood cells were conscious, it would remain true that they live within you, and yet could never ever see you, no?

As to your revert to mine above, you are still wrong. It seems to me that you never even grasped the depth of your own statements on the other thread, for you spoke about the mind, and what it is conditioned to see. Quite simply this destroys everything that can be argued to exist or not. Howevet I am typing from a phone and will revert comprehensively once back before my laptop.

Joshthefirst: do you see a divine will in the universe?

God of course can be a psychological conditioning. But you can't speak this to those who encountered him and still walk with him and claim to know him and back up their claims with their lives.

Humans have been making up gods for some time.
But the bible( and indeed our very lives) teach and show that God, allowing humans to realize that they couldn't decipher his being and attributes psychologically, came down and walked among them. Showing his true character.

It is this God that I met. I never ascribed character or human morals to him. That would be an insult and me acting like an ordinary idol worshipper.

I met this God. But of course, you won't believe me.

Just like the people whom Jesus walked among didn't believe him when he claimed to be the one.

Logicboy03:


^^^

This is the "Ihedinobi misunderstood sophist technique"

Claim that the opponent didnt understand or grasp your point when you are cornered by a better argument

Deep Sight:

It is simple to see that foresight is not the same thing as deterministic control.

Kay 17:

Human morals? So you now believe there is no absolute morality?

Logicboy03:


^^^

This is the "Ihedinobi misunderstood sophist technique"

Claim that the opponent didnt understand or grasp your point when you are cornered by a better argument

Ihedinobi:
So now it's me you're obssesed with, Logicboy

Deep Sight:

Not entirely. If your white blood cells were conscious, it would remain true that they live within you, and yet could never ever see you, no?

As to your revert to mine above, you are still wrong. It seems to me that you never even grasped the depth of your own statements on the other thread, for you spoke about the mind, and what it is conditioned to see. Quite simply this destroys everything that can be argued to exist or not. Howevet I am typing from a phone and will revert comprehensively once back before my laptop.

Deep Sight:

It is simple to see that foresight is not the same thing as deterministic control.

Joshthefirst: he watches too much anime

Logicboy03:

How does that follow?

Joshthefirst: it follows from the way you make up techniques based on your perception of people's characters.

"Ihedinobi misunderstood sophist technique"

"Annonyism"

Etc

Logicboy03:


Doesn't follow. Or do u have an anime in mind?

Joshthefirst: lol. This is what happens when I read too much posts on nairaland.

There is absolute morality to which our consciences bear witness.
Sorry if the words carried a different meaning.
I should have quoted "human morals"

Joshthefirst: naruto?

Kay 17:

Is God obliged to follow such absolute morals too?

Logicboy03:


Smh. Do you even watch anime at all?

Joshthefirst: those morals are part of Gods nature which is good.

He is obliged to keep his word, yes.

Kay 17:

Good.

Now, if God's nature is good and creation is from God's nature, doesn't that imply Creation must be good also?

Joshthefirst: yes, and according to the historical account, it was good.

plaetton:

Then go and hug your teddybear.

Deep Sight:

I am certain you cannot produce a single fan of yours who would describe you as a wise man. But, vain glorious in the narcissism of the adulation of your own drastic imbecilic dimwitted-ness, you dance about - comic that you are - to proclaim so yourself.




Not a shred! ! !

aManFromMars:
But man was able to corrupt that which his creator had made.

Kay 17:

Is God obliged to follow such absolute morals too?

Joshthefirst: correct.

And before you start to claim that perfection means......