bukatyne:

You compare having more than one child to having more than one wife?

A wife and child is now equal?

The relationship between a wife is same between a child?

SMH

That is if your opposition to marrying more than one wife is based on not dividing the love for your first wife.

bukatyne:

You compare having more than one child to having more than one wife?

A wife and child is now equal?

The relationship between a wife is same between a child?

SMH

. SMH for not been deductive enough in comprehending a simple analogy. Who cares how you see things in as much as you and your like equate the love that exist between a man and his wives to a piece of cake! Ignorance.

If you can't explain the mystery behind you loving your kids equally( not giving 60% to A, show 25% love to B and automatically C has to manage with 15% remaining just like u share cake) then you are ill-equipped to comment on this topic. SMH!

pmc01:
That is if your opposition to marrying more than one wife is based on not dividing the love for your first wife.

My brother, reality has eluded these people, we need not explain the manifest truth that most women cope with today and will continue to cope with till eternity.

For those opposed to marrying more than one wife;
>one of the major prerequisites for a marriage to be legal in Islam, the proposed wife MUST consent to the union. The woman therefore has the choice of being a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th) wife or she can wait for that single man till she's 40. Basically, she MUST not be forced into the union.
>Islam prohibits taking more than one wife if you can't do your best to be just among them. You don't marry them for boasting sake. If you do otherwise and maltreat any of your wives, then you risk a severe punishment from Allâh. Allâh detests injustice.
>Islam is a way of life in its own right. Some Muslims do wrong in the name culture of their land. This shouldn't be used as a yardstick to judge Islam. Islam's main sources of legislation are the Qur'an and Hadith. Those are the basic standards for measuring Islam, not the behaviour of it's adherents. India is a Hindu and Buddhist dominated country. We know how frequent rape occurs there. Should that be a standard for judging Hinduism and Buddhism or what is in their books?
>We have monogamous marriages that have suceeded, just as we have polygynous marriages that have suceeded likewise. So also do we have marriages of both kinds that have failed. The two have a 50:50 chance of success/failure.
>Sampled opinions of women who have experienced both kinds of marriages showed that polygynous men who have kept to the limits of Allâh, make better spouses than single men. Who says experience doesn't count?

>Realistic Statistics in many parts of the world today show that the population of females is more than that of the males. Also, the mortality rate of males is higher than that of females. Let us analyze it thus:
For example, we have more males in the military forces than females, which means more males will die at the war front, leaving excess females.
Some of these fallen soldiers usually leave young families behind.
Imagine you had a sister whose recently wedded husband dies at the battle front (May God save us from such trial). You and I know it will be difficult for her to find a single man that will accept and love her and her two little kids.
A man with one wife then learns of her and decides to have compassion on her and marry her. Sadly, the wife at home vehemently kicks against it. What impression will you have of such wife - A nice woman or heartless one?
It is clear that Allâh's legislations are to comfort us, not punish us.
Allaahu a'alam. Allaahu Musta 'an.

Just when you think you've seen it all, another one jolts you

Women to be beaten? And reasons given why it is right?

Wives (I mean full-grown consenting adults) compared with children who all share the love of one big father/husband?

And it all sounds right. Very right!

Sorry, I'm on the wrong thread.

Bye to the very wise folks defending all these

That Islam allows men to marry as many as four wives is in itself an act of oppression against women!

kandiikane:

You did not read my question well. How can she come off if she's able to beat the husband or do you want me to show proof of videos with women beating their partners?

For every woman that can beat up their husband, there are 100 who can't even if they may be tempted to try it. Shall we because of 1 put a hundred or more in harm's way?

In any case, men are not allowed to beat-up their wives. What is described is hardly different to what a man may do to his wife in the heat of passion with her wanting more.

The major difference would be in the motivation and the likelihood of her not wanting more when there is conflict.

pmc01:

>Physical means could mean playfully spanking her, without hurting her. It could also mean rejecting her food or refusing her marital intercourse until she's remorse. So?

so you PLAYFULLY spank your wife when ANGRY?

jammyng: so you PLAYFULLY spank your wife when ANGRY?

oro pesi je!

am talkin: Husband love your wife as christ love the church and gave his life for it
- THE HOLY BIBLE

Please sir, was there church during the lifetime of christ

pmc01: >Realistic Statistics in many parts of the world today show that the population of females is more than that of the males. Also, the mortality rate of males is higher than that of females. Let us analyze it thus:
For example, we have more males in the military forces than females, which means more males will die at the war front, leaving excess females.
Some of these fallen soldiers usually leave young families behind.
Imagine you had a sister whose recently wedded husband dies at the battle front (May God save us from such trial). You and I know it will be difficult for her to find a single man that will accept and love her and her two little kids.
A man with one wife then learns of her and decides to have compassion on her and marry her. Sadly, the wife at home vehemently kicks against it. What impression will you have of such wife - A nice woman or heartless one?
It is clear that Allâh's legislations are to comfort us, not punish us.
Allaahu a'alam. Allaahu Musta 'an.

Do you know what love or marriage really means?

udatso:
Please sir, was there church during the lifetime of christ

The Church really means the collection of all Christians. It's is not the building.

bukatyne:

The Church really means the collection of all Christians. It's is not the building.

Even at that, there was no collection of Christians during the time of Jesus A.S.

Hmmm, dis is wonderful,may Allah make it easy for them.

Amiin

bukatyne:


Do you know what love or marriage really means?

No and Yes.
Love is a relative term and its meaning varies from one individual to the other. To some wives, love is spoiling them with everything money can buy. To some others, it is being present around her as much as you can.
There was an American president whose shooter shot him just to prove to his girlfriend how much he loves her.
Unfortunately, I can't tell what it means to you.
Secondly, Marriage basically means the conjugal union of a husband and wife or wives. Of course, you know there are different forms of it practised from one culture to the other.
For example, there is a certain culture that practises something called 'Group Marriage'. It means a group of men (10, for example) marry a group of women (10, for example). In this system, none of the ten wives is exclusive to any particular husband, and vice-versa. Any of the wives can mate with any of the husbands, in no particular order.
So, what's your point?

tinnymerit: what of those women that are not allow to drive cars in saudi arabia,is that a form of feminine oppression?.just asking dont dare delete the post o,its a question ooooo.

Yes o, including the girls that were left to burn to death in their female hostel, when fire broke out in the middle of night because they were wearing their sleeping gowns?


These girls were abandoned and prevented from escaping the fire, in Saudi Arabia just because men would see them in their night gowns. Then they were not wearing their black masquerades, many young and promising girls/women were mercilessly left to die by their parents, brothers and future husbands because of religious believe and barbaric culture.

jammyng: so you PLAYFULLY spank your wife when ANGRY?

Are you acting your true age or just been unwarrantedly sarcastic?

pmc01:
Are you acting your true age or just been unwarrantedly sarcastic?

are you new to islam or playing dumb?

COOLDUN:



Yes o, including the girls that were left to burn to death in their female hostel, when fire broke out in the middle of night because they were wearing their sleeping gowns?


These girls were abandoned and prevented from escaping the fire, in Saudi Arabia just because men would see them in their night gowns. Then they were not wearing their black masquerades, many young and promising girls/women were mercilessly left to die by their parents, brothers and future husbands because of religious believe and barbaric culture.

Are you twelve or what?
I could come and claim on NL I read that the Pope raped 16 young boys. Where is the proof? Stop being childish and unnecessarily bitter, abeg.
Must you show your saddistic traits here?

usermane: Might i add two?
>Enforcing your opinion upon her regardless of her feelings is oppression evn though u r d head.
>Threatening to get a second wife is oppression evn though polygamy is halal.
>Disregarding her advice like a little girl 's is oppression. Its same as saying "u cant teach me a meaning thing, woman, i know best"
There is more to this than meet the eye. Ask some wives of some Ustaz,Mallams,Imams and u 'll b shocked that Charity may not begin from home afterall. [s]Unfortunately a lot of preachers would rather preach on other issues like
>Polygamy and its importance
>Respect/Submission for husband
>Hijab, Jilbaab, Niqaab etc.[/s]
Instead of topics regarding respect for wives in a large part because there is this sub par belief that a respectful and overtly submissive wife will get fair play.

You should try attending more "informed halaqot(s)". If you're in Lagos, I'll advice you get in touch with Deen Communications Limited, Insha Allaah, you would find out that the admonition is balanced between both gender.

Allaah's help is sought. May HE grant us all success.

am talkin:
You are on point!

people should stop making false statement about prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) then should stop quote what they don't have knwoledge about. Then try to learn more about Islam & the noble prophet(s.a.w)

victorD3:


You are the one that needs some growing up if you think Muslims don't believe in 72 virgins in heaven. Infact you are the first Muslim that feels its a myth maybe because you are gaaay.

Well as for my being killed I think it will be useless because am harmless and your virgin comes if you go down with the target.

Many South African men believe mating with a virgin will cure them of their HIV. Does their belief authenticate the myth as genuine?
Seems you need a nap!

nnofaith: are you new to islam or playing dumb?

No, I'm not new to Islam and I don't know how to play dumb.
So, what's your mission?

Okija_juju:


Officer Shun!!!!






_{What a wonderful world..}

There is no compulsion in religion.therefore for you your religion and for us our religion.our Islam is ours,the Quran is our manual and we live our lives by it.we are not apologetic about any verse or word in it.if you choose not to understand the explanations that have been offered to you,so be it.Allah is not ashamed to tell us to truth,therefore,we shall never be ashamed to tell you kristians the truth about our religion.

devour129: Marrying more than one wife is an oppression to the first

Be informed that our prophet married more than ten wives.

pmc01:
That is if your opposition to marrying more than one wife is based on not dividing the love for your first wife.

Please stop deceiving yourself. How can you love two women or three women equally at the same time? Even your own children can't be loved equally by you talk less of your wives.

maclatunji:

LOL, you cannot even spell "Quran" correctly. Yet, you seek to teach us Islam. Your ignorance is beyond belief and with your arrogance, we have an unfortunate result of a delusional character indeed.

Bye.

I guessed he spelt it deliberately that way, as it was repeated in all instances..and using the supposed mispelling as point in your argument, in addition insulting the fellow,just shows you have ran out of valid points and perhaps more delusional n worse still hypocritic by being too quick to throw an unsolicited insult...yet you claim you are a defender of Islam , get a life and quit shoving Islam down our throats..