13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan answered, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You will not die. 14 But what you did caused the Lord’s enemies to lose all respect for him. For this reason the son who was born to you will die.”

15 Then Nathan went home. And the Lord caused the son of David and Bathsheba, Uriah’s widow, to be very sick. 16 David prayed to God for the baby. David fasted and went into his house and stayed there, lying on the ground all night. 17 The elders of David’s family came to him and tried to pull him up from the ground, but he refused to get up or to eat food with them.

18 On the seventh day the baby died. David’s servants were afraid to tell him that the baby was dead. They said, “Look, we tried to talk to David while the baby was alive, but he refused to listen to us. If we tell him the baby is dead, he may do something awful.”

19 When David saw his servants whispering, he knew that the baby was dead. So he asked them, “Is the baby dead?”

They answered, “Yes, he is dead.”

20 Then David got up from the floor, washed himself, put lotions on, and changed his clothes. Then he went into the Lord’s house to worship. After that, he went home and asked for something to eat. His servants gave him some food, and he ate.

ooman: the baby was shouting "save me from yahweh .......... yehhhhhhh.........i don die ............."



but no one cared

then

yahweh finally got him and killed him

[img]http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/afraid/smileys-afraid- 640066.gif[/img]do you know that you a very big[s][/s] fool

let me run before monster yahweh get to me too oooooo

Segeggs: @op . Why ask questions concerning something you dont give a damn about?

Da-ny-ell:
Probably because the baby was illegitimate. You know God works in mysterious ways and his ways are not our ways. Probably Solomon (born through legitimate and consensual f.ucking) was the reincarnation of the first baby.

d light: This is one of those things I also do question about certain bible principles. Why should an innocent soul have to suffer for the sin he knows nothing about and this seem like an injustice while atimes the actual offender may not go through any punishment

ninja4life: U cannot understand d things of d spirit without d holy ghost so go for it to teach u waht u donot understand.k

Logicboy03:

So illegitimate babies should be killed?

Da-ny-ell:
You see, that's why you need the spirit of the twisting tiger to discern scriptures. The baby wasn't killed, the baby's soul was only transferred to the body of Solomon (remember legitimate f.ucking).

ninja4life: U cannot understand d things of d spirit without d holy ghost so go for it to teach u waht u donot understand.k

ooman:

yahweh dey see you oooo

Logicboy03: I wonder why a loving God will kill a child for the father's sins. David killed somebody and committed adultery with the person's wife. Instead of God to punish David, he killed David's son.


Can someone explain the logic in this to me? Note that David fasted, prayed and laid on the ground for days for forgiveness, yet God killed his baby.




2 Samuel 12

mumumugu: GOD HAD BLESSED. David.david sinned. All sin deserve punishment. God had sworn not to punish david. He decided to punish the son knowing grief wil afect him.

ooman: the baby was shouting "save me from yahweh .......... yehhhhhhh.........i don die ............."



but no one cared

then

yahweh finally got him and killed him



let me run before monster yahweh get to me too oooooo

Ihedinobi: Again with questions you don't want answers to, Lb

Yahweh, can't live with Him, can't live without Him, eh, Lb?

Anyway, I think you are the first person to consider the death of a person's child to not be useable as punishment for the person, my friend.

For all we know, when the kid opened its eyes on the other side of the divide, it was glad it didn't have to wait to get to heaven, maybe

And that is while David is enduring heartbreak for the loss of his child. But, being a young man still wet behind the ears and knowing nothing about loving another human being with every bit of your being, you could never appreciate the pain a father suffers for losing his child through his own carelessness or stupidity, could you, Lb?

Ihedinobi; For all we know, when the kid opened its eyes on the other side of the divide, it was glad it didn't have to wait to get to heaven, maybe

Logicboy03:

smh.

Ihedinobi; For all we know, when the kid opened its eyes on the other side of the divide, it was glad it didn't have to wait to get to heaven, maybe

1) The child didnt just die.....it suffered in sickness for 7 days.

Ihedinobi; But, being a young man still wet behind the ears and knowing nothing about loving another human being with every bit of your being, you could never appreciate the pain a father suffers for losing his child through his own carelessness or stupidity, could you, Lb?

2) So, a childless man doesnt know unconditional love? You assume that I do not take care of my neices and nephews or even my old parents. Arrogance.

Ihedinobi:

And it couldn't have been punishment for David to see that it was his fault that the kid was in pain for that long, eh?

Hypothetical alert! But, as always, you're free to ignore.



Lol. There he goes again generalizing. Lb, I was refering specifically to you, not to all childless young men. You know zip about love, my friend. If you did, you would not have asked such a patently stupid question as the op.

There are childless young men who even without the experience of fatherhood can conceptualize a father's pain that he lost a child and how particularly bad such pain can be if the father thinks or knows it was his fault.

But, you, my friend, are too dense to comprehend that ordinarily.

Logicboy03:



I will leave you to your silliness. The insult you gave me is quite painful. Telling me that I do not know what love is. I dont wish that insult on you.

When I remember how I care for others in my family for no reward other than I want them to live and spread the same care that I have given them.......I just laugh at your assumptions about me.


I'll leave you to your high horse. Keep judging and assuming things.


Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."




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Edit;

If I had a child and God told me that he will punish the child for my sins, I would beg God to punish me instead. Why should my child suffer? Any reasonable judge will punish the offender and not the innocent offsping of the offender. If after seven days of fasting and rolling on the floor so that my child doesnt die but the child still dies after suffering for 7 days, I will personally curse that God for he is wicked

musKeeto: The most confused we ever get is when we try to convince our heads of something our hearts know is a lie...