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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by elampiro(m): 10:17pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
peppy luv: sori I can't learn 4rm 1 who can't speak or write well And you want to think you can write or speak better than I? You presumption is so wrong. The problem with nairaland posters is that they want to assume they know much about the other person. First, you are not even more Catholic than I. So, if it has to do with defending the Catholic church, I am up there. But some things have been prophesied to happen and nothing will stop them. I just rest my case here. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Solozzo(m): 10:18pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
By saying gays should not be discriminated against, does Pope Francis mean that he would ordain a gay to be a priest? Would he officiate gay marriage? What greater role can women play in the catholic church;? Pope Francis talks with tongue in cheek like any bloody politician. Who is fooling who? |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by trolling(m): 10:20pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Baybe: Like seriously? So you are free of sin....So God created some people who are already damned even without giving them the opportunity to find Him and serve Him? Some people are appointed to repent and go to heaven while others are not appointed and must go to hell? I just dey laugh. Virgin bride of Christ indeed.yeap some were appointed to damnation before the foundation of the world,He has mercy on whom He will and hardens whom He will,Jacob have I loved,Esau have I hated,He is the Potter and He does whatever He likes with His vessels, christians dont teach this,they say He loves everybody,if He loves everybody why would there be a judgement day or why does He create good and evil people/angels, miss lady you are not ready for this,im off today and im ready for you pseudo-christian folks |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by lirusehn(m): 10:22pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Am picking some dimwit off most of u guys' butt. 2 me as a personĀ” I aint against lesbianism and gayness. Let it b legalised. Ma adviz is once u knw its wrong dnt go for it. If we all kicking against it how den will d words of the Bible/Quoran come 2 pass. I pray i dont fall victim |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Solozzo(m): 10:25pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Baybe: Why do people like reading stupid meanings into something very simple? The Pope is not in any way saying that homosexuality is right or something. He only said that he can't judge them, that is what the Bible says anyway. He said he is willing to accept them if they repent and seek the goodwill of God. Nobody is free of sin. Only he that is free of sin should jugde people and IMO that person is God and not all these Nairaland hypocrites that'll sleep with all the love peddlers around and still be the first to condemn gays like homosexuality is now a bigger sin than fornication. Sleeping with your boyfriend/girlfriend not your husband/wife is a sin as homosexuality is a sin. No sin is bigger than the other. Remember Mary Magdalene? She was a prostitute! She is chilling in heaven now. Remember the adulterous woman? Remember what Jesus said? 'Let he that is without sin cast the first stone'. Remember what Jesus said to the Pharisees when they said He was dining with sinners? Jesus came for the sinners. Condemn the sin not the sinner! that is what the Pope said! He ought to have made it clear that the catholic church does bot see homosexuality as a grievous sin anymore and that gays may even become priests. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by ocelot2006(m): 10:28pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
trolling: that doesnt apply to me sha because the law wasnt created for the righteous but for the lawless and we the Virgin Bride of Christ are without fault before His throne, so sinners yall better repent that is if you were appointed to repentance....and Paul is not part of the 24 Elders,it takes the Elect to know the 24 Elders not christians, i just checked your profile make i leave you alone you are more like my junior sister dont wanna go hard on you take care You? Virgin bride?.........Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.hehehe Hahaha..eeh.. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
trolling: yeap some were appointed to damnation before the foundation of the world,He has mercy on whom He will and hardens whom He will,Jacob have I loved,Esau have I hated,He is the Potter and He does whatever He likes with His vessels, christians dont teach this,they say He loves everybody,if He loves everybody why would there be a judgement day or why does He create good and evil people/angels, miss lady you are not ready for this,im off today and im ready for you pseudo-christian folksU are not a christian 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
trolling: yeap some were appointed to damnation before the foundation of the world,He has mercy on whom He will and hardens whom He will,Jacob have I loved,Esau have I hated,He is the Potter and He does whatever He likes with His vessels, christians dont teach this,they say He loves everybody,if He loves everybody why would there be a judgement day or why does He create good and evil people/angels, miss lady you are not ready for this,im off today and im ready for you pseudo-christian folksBeing good or bad is your CHOICE. That is why you have your conscience. God didn't create anybody to be Good or Bad. Have you forgotten the story of Saul converted to Paul? You decide to be good or bad, nobody was born good or bad. Good night. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by ocelot2006(m): 10:32pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
trolling: yeap some were appointed to damnation before the foundation of the world,He has mercy on whom He will and hardens whom He will,Jacob have I loved,Esau have I hated,He is the Potter and He does whatever He likes with His vessels, christians dont teach this,they say He loves everybody,if He loves everybody why would there be a judgement day or why does He create good and evil people/angels, miss lady you are not ready for this,im off today and im ready for you pseudo-christian folks Wow....just wow...then I guess Jesus's death on the Cross was for nothing..... It's confirmed. We have fanatics/lunatics like you claiming to be Christians. There sure aint no difference between you and Boko Haram. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Vansnickers: 10:33pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
luluosas: That's because pope Francis is a GAY himself period. I'm sure you would had preferred if he asked all Catholics to kill Gays. You're right Yahweh should punish him! How dare he preach about Love?! Yahweh must send him to hell for preaching contrary to what the Blood Thirsty Yahweh wants! |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by trolling(m): 10:34pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
ocelot2006:who the heck is jesus or heyZeus,oh a white boy with blue eyes and a blonde hair |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by khattab02: 10:34pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
peppy luv: Shining in HELLIn your thoughts.Death in only an Admonition for u. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Dibiachukwu: 10:34pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
obailala:where in the bible? |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Solozzo:Where did the Pope say that homosexuality is right |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by trolling(m): 10:39pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Baybe: Being good or bad is your CHOICE. That is why you have your conscience. God didn't create anybody to be Good or Bad. Have you forgotten the story of Saul converted to Paul? You decide to be good or bad, nobody was born good or bad. Good night.The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.Proverbs 16:4 |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Rooneyboy(m): 10:39pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
A catholic till I kpeme ! All u anti catholic can yank ur heads on the nearest transformer for all I care . 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by WinkWrld: 10:54pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
WHom am I to judge= simply signifies the pope's humility and respect for GOd If the gays decide to follow God= simply teaches US that serving God comes first. And this is what God wants from US. Being Gay is not a crime. = simply teaches us that we are all precious and same in the eyes of God. It also words to promote peace, God speaks through His prophets, let's be very careful to condemn. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Dibiachukwu: 10:54pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
This pope is a gud trickster oh Before you know it catholic Ikenna would become a batty-man. And all we would hear is who am I to judge them and judge not, so though shalt not be judged (two verses taken out of context). If you ask them why they live in affluence and their students in abject poverty they will tell you that their God is not a poor God. And if you persist, they will say: Touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm. This is what the lord says we should do in this situation.Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins (isaiah 58:1) 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by luluosas(m): 11:06pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Van snickers:Which love are you talking about? Love that cannot rebuke sin? Is that what the bible in 1 Corinthians 13:6 teaches? |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by fridayman1: 11:12pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
Syncan:GRACE OF CHRIST DOES NOT SAVE IN SIN RATHER FROM SIN. BE CAREFUL PLS. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by batteryempty(m): 11:18pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
In the end, you never make any point that can exonerate the Pope. Anyway, I was just passing by... mascot87: I am very sure most nairalanders would misinterpret what the pope is trying to insinuate cos of lack of wisdom understanding his simple statement.Already I am seeing some bigoted illiterates making statements that makes me wonder why some ignoramus bigocony continue to reason with there nose rather than calming down, digest and think deeply on what the Pope is trying to say using there brains. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Syncan(m): 11:18pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
obi123: Thanks for the good intention behind your speech. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by fridayman1: 11:19pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
jamp: what am seeing here is different from what CNN reported.THE CHURCH OF GOD IS WHERE GOD'S COMMANDMENT IS KEPT BY THE GRACE OF JESUS. A CHURCH OR PERSONS THAT PROMOTES GAY OR GAY MARRIAGE IS ALREADY IN HELL BECAUSE WITHOUT HOLINESS NO MAN WILL SEE GOD. Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Syncan(m): 11:23pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
friday@man: Thank you Sir, I wonder what part of my speech you are quarreling with. I think you should rather watch it lest you turn yourself to the pharisees who rebuked Jesus for allowing sinners come near. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by afoobiggy700(m): 11:55pm On Jul 29, 2013 |
peppy luv: Shining in HELLI know your pope is not following what your bible says, your bible says kill all man who lies with anoda man Leviticus 20:13 |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by obailala(m): 12:02am On Jul 30, 2013 |
Dibiachukwu:Are u aware that Jesus Christ stopped people from stoning a woman in the bible?.. Are u also aware that Jesus had a tax collector (present day agboro) as a disciple and people criticized him just like the pope's statement is being criticized today? I quote again, the bible teaches us to hate sin but not condemn the sinners. If u condemn sinners and ostracize them from society, are u not simply acting like the 'holier than thou' crowd that wanted to stone the woman? |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by monex(m): 12:10am On Jul 30, 2013 |
pro01:sometin i like abt U bro is how u can painstakingly assist to provide rational/logical explanations. i saw the initial comments from peeps and was like hw did we come to this situation where peeps dont bother to read details or read or read with all their bias/prejudice thereby ignoring the main point of a statement. hw some peeps came abt the fact that the statement meant the pope supports homosexuality baffles me. they were all shouting end time, end time. hate the sin, not the sinner. but also hate the attempts by the sinners to redefine what is sin or not (lobbying) |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Hexzy(m): 12:11am On Jul 30, 2013 |
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination ; they shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death ;and ye shall slay the beast. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither : fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up into vile affections: For even their. women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, burned in their lust towards another ; men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. Remember Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18 with authority. It said Think not that I am come. to destroy the law, or the prophets ; I am not come to destroy, but fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Also remember as it reads from 2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture us of one's own interpretation. God hate homosexuality. His word is straight forward and He won't hesitate to give judgment to all those who took His words for granted. Remember He respects His word more than anything else. And don't think you are smart enough to defend that evil act. God is no respecter of any man. But there is hope for those gone astray, turn to Jesus, He will forgive you all your sins and give you a new life. LET JOIN HANDS TOGETHER AND SAY NO TO HOMOSEXUALITY AND BESTIALITY. |
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by ocelot2006(m): 12:12am On Jul 30, 2013 |
This whole thread is a clear indication why the national failure rate in WAEC, NECO, and JAMB is high due to lack of simple comprehension. The Pope's statement was pretty straightforward. (1) he refused to judge homosexuals, and (2) he was against their marginalisation. These are definitely not against the teachings of the bible. What he NEVER did/say was embrace the act. But some morons, in their infinite stupidity masked as wisdom and total lack of comprehension somehow saw the Pope's straightforward statement as his tacit approval of homosexuality, an act heavily frowned upon by the same church he leads. Yet they wonder why they score less than 100 during their JAMB exams after long nights of "skabashing" during night vigils. Seriously, I think Dawkins was right. These sorry bunch of people did evolve from an animal: THE GOAT. 1 Like |
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