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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by jamp: 5:08pm On Jul 29, 2013
P.Stacks:



Are you sick? Is it nairaland that said what the pope said? Or nairaland shouldn't report what is hot news now and trending..

Its on Aljazeera, BBC, CNN, Bloomberg, France 24, Newyork Times even Financial papers carried this news... Don't you know the amount of human views attached to the Popes opinion.. Last week, they said pope would forgive sins on twitter, this week its another thing and you say Nairaland is reporting it as anti-catholic... Mtcheeeww. I pity you.. Olodo.


beleive what u want to beleive.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by pscott(m): 5:08pm On Jul 29, 2013
I don't blame the pope because truly he can't judge them due to the fact the he ain't God bt where i quote him wrong was when he said''once they seek the face of God almighty and do his good will''
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by italo: 5:09pm On Jul 29, 2013
now which one of you can show me the part of the statement that is unchristian?
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by 35000tons: 5:09pm On Jul 29, 2013
woodcook: Seriously most peoples' comprehensive skill is so disappointing, that I am considering starting a movement that will force Seun into administering IQ test before registering/commenting on NL.

Please for those of you who are aggrieved by the pope's statement, you guys should clearly explain to the rest of us where the pope's statements contradict Christian teaching on homosexuality. Until then you guys should shelf your hatred towards your fellow human otherwise you guys are no different from the Islamic terrorists. So next time before you point fingers at those terrorist you should think twice.

Some folks are trying to put words in the Pope's mouth. Everyone knows that the Pope has been under pressure by gay lobbyists...
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jul 29, 2013
Who are we ohhhhh "I understand u my G"
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Bashirfuntua(m): 5:11pm On Jul 29, 2013
Pop is right for exposing the through ID of himself keep it on mr pop.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jul 29, 2013
35000tons: Dear Pope,

Nobody is asking you to judge gays...you are only expected to point out their errors (using the bible as a guide) and show them the way of the LORD.

As someone said earlier,''The Vatican has lost it.'' The question now is, when do we start having gay priests and bishops?
^^did u really asked that question? Bro, them bourque o! That's if ur not being sarcastic.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by bobthebuilder99(m): 5:12pm On Jul 29, 2013
It's funny to me that Africans are STILL celebrating backwardness in 2013.

Replace the word "gay" with African colonies (how DARE anyone say those little savages should have freedom), with women (how dare anyone say women should vote, or have jobs in society), with slavery, etc, etc.

Discrimination against people that are NOT hurting you is wrong, period. It is actually disgusting and against the entire point of religion. Who can claim to be following in the footsteps of Christ while hating his neighbor?

And let's not get started on polygamy, which is celebrated all over Africa. Have you ever asked yourself what happens to the extra men in those cultures? The birth rate is always equal between men and women, so when a man takes multiple wives, it means that some men won't be able to get married.

In older times, these extra men where killed. Just like the boy Okonkwo adopted in Things Fall Apart. What Achebe didn't write was that the "priest" wanted that boy chopped down because there weren't enough women to go around and he was becoming a man.

Today, we have Hausas kicking their excess men out of the home, and they become homeless, criminals, terrorists, and every other bad thing.

This is much WORSE than gay marriage. So lets focus on the right problems.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by dhammer(m): 5:12pm On Jul 29, 2013
fedimol: Jesus loved the sinners and hated the sin. I guess that's what he's trying to say. As for me though, I'm still anti-gay.

My Apologies to Homophiliacs

P.S. I just coined that word

You know coining words is actually a sign of psychiatric illness, Google psychiatric neologism.

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Eazeee(m): 5:13pm On Jul 29, 2013
P.Stacks:
Guush mehn!
I saw this thing on BBC and I was disappointed.

Different Popes different stance in one Religion..

All ya religious people how you all doing..

I expect to watch fight and argument on nairaland bai.. Oya gbagan.. Round one.. Fight..

Muslims, you can come and laff and amuse yourselves at xtains fighting against each other, that is not to say when Muslins too would be fighting themselves xtains won't laff ooo and that is not to say Xtains and muslims won't still have a Seperate fight later ooo,

But atleast its been bashing of Muslims since Senator Yerima's Childs-bride issues, nao let the Pope cause his own fracas for Bashing of xtains..

Religion is truly The Opium of the people..

We can Abolish Religion..
Yes we can..

thats d good thing about christianity. They criticize even a pastor or a pope when they feel he is deviating from d gospel. How i wish religion of peace wil giv room 4 criticism & criticize their brodas bombing n killing in d name of allah

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by dozieo(m): 5:13pm On Jul 29, 2013
This is very wrong my dear pope,do not compromise God's laws and remember God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah because of Homosexuality and now the pope is saying we should accept that as a normal way of life,please the pope should know that he is a mere mortal and the Lord God has said it that judgement will start from his church, Let him not be like Eli that refused to caution his children,God is merciful and also a consuming fire.[i][/i]
Pygru: The Pope's position on gay people appears to contrast with that of his predecessors.

Pope Francis has said gay people should not be judged or marginalised.
Speaking to reporters on a flight back from Brazil, he said: "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge him?"
The Pope's remarks are being seen as much more conciliatory than his predecessor's position on the issue.
Turning to the issue of women priests, he said the Church had spoken and had said"no", but the role of women should not be restricted.
"We cannot limit the role of women in the Church to altar girls or the president of a charity, there must be more," he said in a wide-ranging interview with Vatican journalists.
Five months after he took over from Pope Benedict, he said gay people should be fully accepted in society.
""The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well," Pope Francis said.
"It says they should not be marginalised because of this but that they must be integrated into society."
But he condemned what he described as lobbying by gay people.
"The problem is not having this orientation," he said. "We must be brothers. The problem is lobbying by this orientation, or lobbies of greedy people, political lobbies, Masonic lobbies, so many lobbies. This is the worse problem."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23489702
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by obailala(m): 5:13pm On Jul 29, 2013
Wsdm: Mr. Pope, you are not to rule base on your volition. Tell us what the Bible says about this, simple. Must you all be controlled by western idiocy? Christianity is making itself two porous.

Can u please go back to the report and read it again; this time read it slowly instead of just commenting based on the topic of the thread.

To save u the stress of re-reading (that's if u even read it in the first place), the pope has simply said that 'sinners' should not be judged but should be allowed to come to church and not be ostracized. He however states very clearly that he is against the 'lobbyists' who are on a campaign to make it look like being gay is right.

Can u please now tell us what the pope has said that is against bible teachings or the teachings of Christ?
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by livebullet(m): 5:14pm On Jul 29, 2013
as if i knew...nairaland would have made dis front page...pls people open this link. the pope didnt say gayism is ok...he meant those sufferin from SSA(same sex attraction) shudnt b condemned dat doesnt mean the act is thumbed up by the church.
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/7-things-you-need-to-know-about-what-pope-francis-said-about-gays
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by livebullet(m): 5:16pm On Jul 29, 2013
p'scott:
I don't blame the pope because truly he can't judge them due to the fact the he ain't God bt where i quote him wrong was when he said''once they seek the face of God almighty and do his good will''

pls read:

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/7-things-you-need-to-know-about-what-pope-francis-said-about-gays
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by OjukwuManhood: 5:17pm On Jul 29, 2013
The Pope is right because he has got many of gay as Rev. Father.

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by mko2005: 5:18pm On Jul 29, 2013
mascot87: I am very sure most nairalanders would misinterpret what the pope is trying to insinuate cos of lack of wisdom understanding his simple statement.Already I am seeing some bigoted illiterates making statements that makes me wonder why some ignoramus bigocony continue to reason with there nose rather than calming down, digest and think deeply on what the Pope is trying to say using there brains. angry
Most people would make silly statements just because they don't believe in the ideology of the Catholic church.Most people are hardcore Religiolistic and tribalistic in nature.
Please dont' insult people yet. There are ways to pass a message to please God not minding what the crowed or world is saying !
I love my child and that is why i advise,correct and some times discipline him when ever he errs. I do it out of love for who God loves HE chastises.Hebrew 12:6''F[b]or the LORD disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child."[/b] To let your gay children alone without correction is hatred of the highest ranking ! Ofcourse,who are we to judge ! But to correct does not in any way mean passing judgement.
Please see below the case of Radwanska the tennis player who featured nude for ESPN body shoot 2013 and what the catholic church has to say about her as a roman Catholic in one of the parishes in poland:

"It's a shame that someone who has declared their love for Jesus is now promoting the mentality of men looking at a woman as a thing rather than a child of God worthy of respect and love," senior Catholic priest Father Marek Dziewiecki told Polish media.
Unsurprisingly, the Catholic Church was not too thrilled about her actions. Radwanska, 24, had been working with Krucjata Mlodych, a Polish Catholic "Youth Crusade," as an ambassador for the group. After her photo shoot for ESPN, however, that relationship has now dissolved.
Now my question is,why didn't the church leave her there as their youth Crusade group ambassador since it is very evident that she has 'declared for Jesus' and the church ? If i'm to go by the words of the pope,Radwanska was marginalized in this sense !
Pls custodians of the word of God,don't water the word for more membership or more Benjamins ! Say the truth always and leave God to judge. There is nothing like gay Christian as in accepting the practice and accepting Christ. But we can have a 'gay christian'as in one with the tendencies or urges who struggles with it and want's to come out of it just like some of us struggling Christians who still fall into the sin of adultery,fornication,masturbation,greed,covetousness,drunkenness and the likes.If any 'man of God like the pope'wishes sinners well,he should condemn our negative urges not condemn us but should not make us feel as if these neagatives are positives in the sight of God.Any one who do this,contradicts the scripture and will be likened as an agent of the devil.
My catholic friends,i know that the papacy is infallible, the pope can never be wrong but let us study the word to see how Christ loved sinners. A closing example was the adulterous woman who Jesus did not judge and condemned rather had compassion on but left her with a closing word;''GO HOME AND SIN NO MORE'' Jesus corrected her by letting her know that she should not continue in adultery. Pls pope francis,i am GAY tell me it's against the word of God but God loves me but doesn't want me to continue in such practices.
God bless us all

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Salmoneus(m): 5:18pm On Jul 29, 2013
He is quite right, who are we all to judge anyone? Jesus preached peace, love but it's obvious from comments of so called Christians that Christ's teachings have taken the back seat to violent, die by fire, vigilante doctrines...to love is hard to hate too easy...
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jul 29, 2013
mascot87: I am very sure most nairalanders would misinterpret what the pope is trying to insinuate cos of lack of wisdom understanding his simple statement.Already I am seeing some bigoted illiterates making statements that makes me wonder why some ignoramus bigocony continue to reason with there nose rather than calming down, digest and think deeply on what the Pope is trying to say using there brains. angry
Most people would make silly statements just because they don't believe in the ideology of the Catholic church.Most people are hardcore Religiolistic and tribalistic in nature.

Sharrrrap there.. Shut your bucal cavity
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by goldenval(m): 5:21pm On Jul 29, 2013
goldenval: Some people do not understand proverbs at all... What our Pope is trying to teach us is that " once gay people seeks the face of God almighty and do his good will, meaning repentance from the act through the grace of God almighty and God forgives, who is he to judge?

Remember a story about Paul in the bible who was killing christians just like Boko Haram but one day God arrested him, he repented and God made him one of his apostle.

What about Mary Magdalene whom people like you here nearly stoned to death because she was a prostitute but our Lord Jesus saved her and she repented. Today she is in heaven.

All these people mentioned here, are they different from gay people?

Boko haram people kills but does gay people do the same?

Please what we all need is prayer for them because tomorrow, one of us might bear a child that might become a gay and if that happens, what would you now do?

Pope is 100% right and I guess those kids here that dropped out of school should keep quite here!!!.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Noblechyk: 5:21pm On Jul 29, 2013
mascot87: I am very sure most nairalanders would misinterpret what the pope is trying to insinuate cos of lack of wisdom understanding his simple statement.Already I am seeing some bigoted illiterates making statements that makes me wonder why some ignoramus bigocony continue to reason with there nose rather than calming down, digest and think deeply on what the Pope is trying to say using there brains. angry
Most people would make silly statements just because they don't believe in the ideology of the Catholic church.Most people are hardcore Religiolistic and tribalistic in nature.
What rubbish are you saying? The Pope just declared his support for homosexuality & you are here trying to justify him because of your belief in the perfect doctrine of the Catholic church. Call a spade a spade. Well, I believe that when they finally approve gay marriage as they have been planning, the African Catholic will do the right thing like their Anglican counterparts.

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by DLioness(f): 5:23pm On Jul 29, 2013
Foolish man. No doubt he is a gay hmslf.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:24pm On Jul 29, 2013
Thanks for not discriminating, Pope.

This would cause a lot of chaos in the African man's mind, even though say na person carry the religion come give am.

Next to tackle...barbarism towards gay people.


We're getting recognised, little by little. cool cool

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by vowiski(m): 5:24pm On Jul 29, 2013
Indifferent: I'm a catholic but someone should tell pope to shut the fuk up.
I go soon carry vex join mountain of high tension. Oku!
Like you know how Christianity was formed better than the pope.. What a complete asshole you are!
Get a life son
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:24pm On Jul 29, 2013
Shey be na dem catholics bring Gay and Lesbian come this world so Pope no fit Judge them na..... abeg I no get time for topics like dis jareee sad

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by ReubenAbati: 5:24pm On Jul 29, 2013
[size=18pt]THIS THREAD GO REACH 10 PAGES

I JUST SIDDON DEY LOOK HOW OTHER "CHRISTIAN" DENOMINATIONS GO DEY YAB CATHOLICS

BLIND PEOPLE, OPEN YOUR HEARTS AND NOT YOUR EYES ALONE.

'LIKE' if you agree.[/size]

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Chrixtopha(m): 5:25pm On Jul 29, 2013
I don't even believe this... Definitely not from my pope... Unless the Holly father is expecting we the African Catholics to seperate ourselves from this evil befalling the church of God
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by trolling(m): 5:27pm On Jul 29, 2013
pedophilia,homosexuality,masonry,pornography,mafioso and the list goes on is synonymous with the Vatican that sits on seven hills
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by nnadychuks(m): 5:27pm On Jul 29, 2013
What are these people saying sef,what do u want the pope to do to gays wipe them from the face of the earth eh,sick people and their evil mind...we all are sinners so lets live and let live afterall each sin has its own reward and the truth is that some of u condemning the pope are worse than gays
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by BrightCar: 5:28pm On Jul 29, 2013
Why I don't always agree with the catholic priests, they only follow traditions of men, logic, philosophy and they never search through the scriptures to say GOD's position on any matter. POPE stop deceiving the MASSES, Holy Mary will not pray for you.
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jul 29, 2013
But I hope the Anglicans don't think we will wed them in our church just like they do!
Pope don't disappoint us but I stil dnt think he said this cuz he was strongly against it while he was in Argentina that gave him a face off with the Govt then
Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 29, 2013
Meanwhile, I can only imagine what would be going on in the various Reverend Fathers and Sisters we have grin

Something like...Father Lord, change the mind of the Pope by firrrrrrrreeeeee grin. That would probably be the prayer point on sunday.

Make una rest ehh, the world won't end cos we're here.

Hehehe

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Re: Pope Francis: Who Am I To Judge Gay People? by Noblechyk: 5:30pm On Jul 29, 2013
obailala:

Can u please go back to the report and read it again; this time read it slowly instead of just commenting based on the topic of the thread.

To save u the stress of re-reading (that's if u even read it in the first place), the pope has simply said that 'sinners' should not be judged but should be allowed to come to church and not be ostracized. He however states very clearly that he is against the 'lobbyists' who are on a campaign to make it look like being gay is right.

Can u please now tell us what the pope has said that is against bible teachings or the teachings of Christ?
Your post is hypocritical. Your post just openly supported homosexuality & you are trying to justify him because the bible says, "we shall not judge". Call a spade a spade. To condemn homosexual act is not to judge those indulging in it. Well, you will still defend him when he finally approve gay marriage.

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