Katsumoto:

Since the nigerian police can solve all crimes, perhaps society can do away with institutions that regulate industries such as health, food, etc

No need laying down the rules and regulations, just refer everything to the police. In your highly myopic point of view, security threats arise only when the traders start carrying guns.


I have told you to try and find your level but you won't listen. Instead you go through a thread and reply firstly to my post and then get humiliated with my response.

On a serious note, I am not into guys, take your fixation elsewhere.

Katsumoto:

Since the nigerian police can solve all crimes, perhaps society can do away with institutions that regulate industries such as health, food, etc

No need laying down the rules and regulations, just refer everything to the police. In your highly myopic point of view, security threats arise only when the traders start carrying guns.


I have told you to try and find your level but you won't listen. Instead you go through a thread and reply firstly to my post and then get humiliated with my response.

On a serious note, I am not into guys, take your fixation elsewhere.

mascot87:
What makes you prefer Lagos a Yoruba owned territory to your home town back in the village and at dsame time you castigate the government of your host community.

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Right now, Igbo is out of favor in Lagos. We will throw the law books at their so called constitutional rights, lets see how far the constitution can survive the law.

babestella:


No, you for carry mat go dey sleep for National stadium too, Shebi na Lagos land owner you bi. Animal. Make una dey target igbos and their businesses, the one who pursues a small chicken is the one who owes the ground a fall. Soon and very soon.....

These actions in,y shows that the so called Lagosians don't have any tangible business that can yield taxes and revenues that can even sustain the state, hence they want to milk igbos die. No matter how much your touts steal from igbos, they can't run igbos down. Igbos lead while other follow. Get that into your goat brain.

Katsumoto:

Can competition in the East be stiffer than in the US? How many Americans do you find outside the US escaping from competition? And I am not referring to conglomerates such as coke, chevron, etc

What of the Chinese that are all over Africa searching for business opportunities, make their money and remit to China? Is it that Africa is more developed than China Americans & Israelis largely restrict their traveling because of security reasons.

agbameta:


Very very frustrating. With a segment of the society refusing to submit to the same laws and regulation that the rest of the society must respect and yield to, where do we go from here? Lawlessness, total breakdown of law and order, anarchy?

Wait till the other segments of the society echoed the same lawless and anti authority attitude? I think this more than tribalism, this is backwardness and absurd group thinking topped with self destructive behavior.

ALTRUTH:

What of the Chinese that are all over Africa searching for business opportunities, make their money and remit to China? Is it that Africa is more developed than China Americans & Israelis largely restrict their traveling because of security reasons.

ALTRUTH:

Kindly state the laws and regulations that the traders have refused to submit to? These guys have been paying required taxes so why all the harassment??

ALTRUTH: [b]I am beginning to sense that Yorubas are nursing this fear that Igbos are secretly plotting to take their land from them and that is why they are trying their best to show the Igbos that "We own this land." However, nothing could be farther from the truth. We are in Lagos to work, do our businesses and generally make a living. I have also read comments saying that the East is not developed but this is a big lie, the East is developed although Abia & Ebonyi are lagging) and is still developing as I write. Travel to the East and see for yourselves instead of shouting "caves, caves" as you often do. Yes, there is no state in the East as developed as Lagos just like there is no other state like Lagos in Nigeria. Another thing you guys must note is that our land in the East is too small for us that is another reason where you find us in great numbers in Lagos and parts of the north. Competition in the East is very stiff and we cannot all stay there.

There should be mutual respect and understanding[/b]

berem: Baba Oloja things on my mind......
Baba Oloja is now a new regulatory agency in Lagos. I stand to be corrected.

Extortion should be condemned no matter how people try tom paint it. I bet you the babaoloja will demand monthly payments from the legitimate traders who have already paid their taxes to the government. This is just too bad!

I now see how LASG has been generating its huge IGR!!!!

OPC.NAIRALAND:


Security! Security!! Security!!!

Regulation! Regulation!! Regulation!!!

Read&Understand!
Read&Understand!!
Read&Understand!!!

Comply or Go to Village!
Comply or Go to Village!!
Comply or Go to Village!!!

0key:

How does fighting crime equate to regulation of food, health etc? U are not making any sense.

ALTRUTH:

What of the Chinese that are all over Africa searching for business opportunities, make their money and remit to China? Is it that Africa is more developed than China Americans & Israelis largely restrict their traveling because of security reasons.

ALTRUTH:

Kindly state the laws and regulations that the traders have refused to submit to? These guys have been paying required taxes so why all the harassment??

ALTRUTH:

I now see how LASG has been generating its huge IGR!!!!

ALTRUTH:

Extortion should be condemned no matter how people try tom paint it. I bet you the babaoloja will demand monthly payments from the legitimate traders who have already paid their taxes to the government. This is just too bad!

I now see how LASG has been generating its huge IGR!!!!

berem: you should have known that! where else do you think LASG gets its IGR if not taxation? That's why they are the richest state in Nigeria. Even without oil, they can stand on their own by taxing the living day light of its residence.

Katsumoto:

If you read the original article, you will observe that the major complaint by LASG is the unwillingness of the parts dealers to subject their body to LASG regulations. An unregulated body can be infiltrated by criminals who steal cars, break them up, and sell in the open market. This is not different from the security posed by unregulated abattoirs who may sell diseased meat to the general public. Since ATM's point was that the threat could be reported to the police, my response was that there should be no need for any regulations or regulated bodies since the ever efficient Nigerian Police Force is present to deal with any threats.

The issue many of you have is the understanding of what a security threat is. For instance, it was reported in the news recently, that an abattoir was discovered preparing unfit for consumption meat. If meat sellers refuse to abide by regulations or subject themselves to the appropriate body, how will such a body
protect society from such threats?

ALTRUTH:

Kindly state the laws and regulations that the traders have refused to submit to? These guys have been paying required taxes so why all the harassment??

Commissioner for Transportation, Mr. Kayode Opeifa, said this at a stakeholders meeting on Wednesday, organised by the Motor Vehicle Administration Agency.

Licensing of Auto/ Spare Parts Dealers, Riders Identification Card and most importantly, keeping of a robust Database on Vehicles/Owners.
http://www.lsmvaa.com/about.php

0key:

How does imposing tax on people who carry out legitimate duties become a way of regulating their activities? To me it doesn't make any sense.

Katsumoto:

If you read the original article, you will observe that the major complaint by LASG is the unwillingness of the parts dealers to subject their body to LASG regulations. An unregulated body can be infiltrated by criminals who steal cars, break them up, and sell in the open market. This is not different from the security posed by unregulated abattoirs who may sell diseased meat to the general public. Since ATM's point was that the threat could be reported to the police, my response was that there should be no need for any regulations or regulated bodies since the ever efficient Nigerian Police Force is present to deal with any threats.

The issue many of you have is the understanding of what a security threat is. For instance, it was reported in the news recently, that an abattoir was discovered preparing unfit for consumption meat. If meat sellers refuse to abide by regulations or subject themselves to the appropriate body, how will such a body protect society from such threats?

ekwy nwa: They do not deal in second hand spare parts aka tokumbo…….LASG should come out clean and clearly state what they want from the spare parts dealers…….
My question still stands …what regulations are we talking about here? Please let’s avoid undue ambiguities and explicitly deal with specifics.

Lagosbabe1:

The bolded above is very laughable. What you are sensing is absolutely false! Yorubas are the most accommodating tribe in Nigeria-fact! It is only in Yoruba land that all tribes can live in peace and be treated fairly, it is only in Yorubaland that any tribe in Nigeria can come and reside and they and their families will have equal access to education, healthcare and other public facilities and amenities.

I am tired of listening to all the story that an Hausa man was Mayor of Enugu or Aba in the 1930s or thereabouts, the fact is that it is only in YORUBA LAND that you will find an Ibo man hold such an important position as the Commissioner of Finance- we are very progressive in our orientation and deeds. However, a lot of people have misunderstood the gentility of the Tiger as weakness; Or how will OUK and a lot of IBOs declare Lagos as No Man's Land? The same land that gave Ibos the opportunity to rebuild their lives after the civil war? The same Land that educated your children?

You say the competition is very stiff in the SE, what do you exactly mean by that? Are you trying to imply that all the the potentials of all your states have already been taken advantage of? Your assertion is very ironic given the fact that the SE is relatively not as developed as the SW; I would have imagined that given the acclaimed Ibo ingenuity and brilliance, Ndigbo would have developed and taken optimal advantage of the opportunities in their own land before seeking it elsewhere. You claim to be Jews, but have you looked at how the Israelis are dominating the world in sectors such as IT, Science and Research? Most of this is done in Tel-Aviv and they have a loud voice all over the world due to their ability to be innovative and creative. I am not being disingenuous, but I can hardly see any resemblance in culture, attitude or mindset between Ibos or Jews.

The most important thing you said is that we should have mutual respect for each other- very important point! Respect however is a two way street, I can only respect you if and when you respect me. Ibos saying that Lagos is a no mans land is not respect, it is absolute disrespect. Respect begets respect my dear friend.

0key:

How does imposing tax on people who carry out legitimate duties become a way of regulating their activities? To me it doesn't make any sense.

Katsumoto:

If you read the original article, you will observe that the major complaint by LASG is the unwillingness of the parts dealers to subject their body to LASG regulations. An unregulated body can be infiltrated by criminals who steal cars, break them up, and sell in the open market. This is not different from the security posed by unregulated abattoirs who may sell diseased meat to the general public. Since ATM's point was that the threat could be reported to the police, my response was that there should be no need for any regulations or regulated bodies since the ever efficient Nigerian Police Force is present to deal with any threats.

The issue many of you have is the understanding of what a security threat is. For instance, it was reported in the news recently, that an abattoir was discovered preparing unfit for consumption meat. If meat sellers refuse to abide by regulations or subject themselves to the appropriate body, how will such a body
protect society from such threats?

Mayor_of_Lagos:

When you say conflict, the Igbo mind drifts to war. When you mention compromise, their mind drifts to cowardice. When you mention industry, they equate it to trading fake spare parts. When you talk about capital infrastructure they immediately believe you are talking mansions.

I am not surprised at their equating safety and security concerns of a state govt with petty theft and bakassi cutlass wielding touts in ASPAMDA. If you ever wanted to know what is meant by arrested development, interact with an Igbo and you will right away discover the definition.

ALTRUTH:

[b]I give it to you that Yorubas are very accommodating people, that is a fact, I myself was born and raised in Lagos. However what do you exactly mean by you gave us our lives back and gave our children education? None of these things were handed to the Igbos free of charge in Yoruba land. Yoruba children and those of other ethnic groups also benefited from the then free education so it is not as though it was designed to help the Igbos.

Again, you have to give it to the Igbos for getting to the point where we are now. The Nigerian government after the civil war deliberately created policies to marginalize the Igbos. Government after government have neglected the SE which they saw as 'Rebel territory.' A good example is the 20 pound policy. It is the Jewish blood in us that has energized us to get to where we are today even though I admit we still have a lot to do. You guys should stop describing our land as caves; they are not oooo! Travel to the East and see for yourself what we are doing. We know what we are looking for in Lagos.[/b]

Katsumoto:

Firstly, Chinese firms in Africa are State backed or sponsored. They are not individuals who are roaming all over Africa looking for opportunities. So you can't compare the action of enterprises or governments to individuals.

Second, Alaigbo is likely to be more competitive than China. China is a very regulated and closed country. There are many economic reports of private enterprise being stifled in China because of the Government's involvement in most industries. China can't be compared with the US in terms of competition, so you had better find another example.

Third, for competition to be very stiff in Alaigbo, you are more or less stating that there is no room for growth. That is simply not true.