ACM10:

You keep repeating this line. I have challenged you to compare between federal projects in Lagos and Anambra. All you do is to repeat this old and tired comment.

0monnak0da: How can you compare Federal project in Anambra to Lagos The FG project in lagos are businesses not Charity.The FG gets over 40 billion naira a month from Lagos on VAT this does not include custom duty or Excise duties not to mention the Airport. Lagos state gets about 13 billion from the FG in a good month so all in all Lagos is actually subsidizing Anambula state.

But the seaport in Lagos has been operating and bringing in money before 1900


http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf

so much money in fact that there was electricity with street lights,a telephone exchange and trains in Lagos before 1900 and that Carter Bridge (1st mainland) was built in 1901

http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1904_lagos/3064634_1904_lagos_opt.pdf

true2god: As at den Lagos was still a separate colony from the rest of Nigeria. Lagos, as at then, was not Nigeria but a separate British colony that comprises the present Lagos Mainland, Lagos Island, Ikoyi and Victoria Island.

The port, the train, telephone exchange were all built by the British to make their lives easy then. After the 1914 amalgamation Lagos, due to closeness to sea and some other logistical advantages was chosen by the Bristish as the administrative capital while Enugu, Ibadan and kaduna remain regional capital. From 1914 to 2000 Lagos continue to receive pre-eminence attention, in terms of infrastructure, as the nation's Fct.

Note that the development of other parts of Lagos (festac, surulere, ikeja, ilupeju etc) were catalyzed durin the oil boom of the 70's. And u wil agree that the money used for this projects was from the niger delta. Lagos belongs to the yorubas as their ancestral land but was developd, first by the bristish then the infusion of large federal cash and human resources from other parts of the country. I doubt if is was the yorubas that built the port, rail lines, the bridges etc in Lagos, they could have done the same in Ibadan and Ogbomoso.

That apart, providence has made it possible for us to be one, either by crook or not, but we should learn how to accomodate and respect each others right\feelings. If the country breaks today, the Yorubas can drive all Igbos out of Lagos, nobody will complain.

true2god: Ur response just got my attention. In the last 25yrs the population of Abuja is less than 200,000, but today its over 4million. Why? There is a lot of federal presense in Abuja, embassies and high commissions, ministries, etc. So its very natural for pple to move there to get a better life.

Until the FG stopped this skewed develpmental processes and balance it evenly, this issue will continue. I wont be surprised if gwari\hausa pple wake up one day and start 'deporting' non-indigenes frm abuja to go back to their states after billions of dollars niger-delta money has been used to set up infrastructures there. This is exactly wats happening in Lagos.

The over concentration of FG's presence in an area at the expense of others is the result of current Lagos crisis. If the FG dredge the onitsha and owerri inland port, make onne port an import processing zone (like lagos), built basic infratrutures in the east (just like lagos), there will be a natural migration.

This is where the Yorubas should play a role by pressuring the Fg to even social-econimic infrastrutural development acros the country.

ALTRUTH:

When did Jonathan become president

I don't want to go into politics but you can see why Igbos are bent on supporting Jonathan just for the little he has done for us. At least he has shown that we are part of Nigeria and should be taken care of. It is like giving a man who has not eaten for weeks two sticks of biscuits; he will love you with all his heart and be willing to follow you anywhere. Enugu airport now has an international status and is already doing well, this is good. That Onitsha seaport stuff cannot really do the trick because it can not berth ocean liners. We are hoping that Ibaka seaport commences operations in 2015 at Akwa Ibom. This will be a game-changer for the economy in the East. Most Igbo imports would focus on Ibaka so that pressure on Apapa port is reduced.

ACM10:

This is a thoroughly ignorant comment. Does not deserve a response. Your knowledge of contemporary Nigerian politics and history is not up to scratch.

true2god: As at den Lagos was still a separate colony from the rest of Nigeria. Lagos, as at then, was not Nigeria but a separate British colony that comprises the present Lagos Mainland, Lagos Island, Ikoyi and Victoria Island.

The port, the train, telephone exchange were all built by the British to make their lives easy then. After the 1914 amalgamation Lagos, due to closeness to sea and some other logistical advantages was chosen by the Bristish as the administrative capital while Enugu, Ibadan and kaduna remain regional capital. From 1914 to 2000 Lagos continue to receive pre-eminence attention, in terms of infrastructure, as the nation's Fct.

Note that the development of other parts of Lagos (festac, surulere, ikeja, ilupeju etc) were catalyzed durin the oil boom of the 70's. And u wil agree that the money used for this projects was from the niger delta. Lagos belongs to the yorubas as their ancestral land but was developd, first by the bristish then the infusion of large federal cash and human resources from other parts of the country. I doubt if is was the yorubas that built the port, rail lines, the bridges etc in Lagos, they could have done the same in Ibadan and Ogbomoso.

That apart, providence has made it possible for us to be one, either by crook or not, but we should learn how to accomodate and respect each others right\feelings. If the country breaks today, the Yorubas can drive all Igbos out of Lagos, nobody will complain.

Katsumoto:

Can competition in the East be stiffer than in the US? How many Americans do you find outside the US escaping from competition? And I am not referring to conglomerates such as coke, chevron, etc

jp philips:


Do you have the least idea how many Americans live in china, south Korea and Britain? you are completely dumb, myopic and stup1d mixed together, shaken and runneth over.

berem: Chai! this is too much abeg my brother!

jp philips:


Do you have the least idea how many Americans live in china, south Korea and Britain? you are completely dumb, myopic and stup1d mixed together, shaken and runneth over.

agbameta:

And you know? And if you do, why not show us the credible and official figures to prove him wrong. Only dumb and stupid people like you insults based on shallow and empty nonsense without facts.

APC in power will return authority to the regions. What vision do your leaders have to tap early into this projected reality? You muat do for yourself before others can do for you. If you wait for others in Nigeria to do for you your land will never develop beyond its current state and ultimately your entire ethnic group may abandon the land for better appeal elsewhere like Ekiti, Jigawa, Edo, where the indigenes will continously detest and subject you to humiliation.

Challenge your leaders and put pressure on them to bring pride and greatness to your land. If they initiate some projects on their own and get it going perharps FG might approach to help complete it and add more.

agbameta:

And you know? And if you do, why not show us the credible and official figures to prove him wrong. Only dumb and stupid people like you insults based on shallow and empty nonsense without facts.

agbameta:


Please shut up and face topic, I didn't ask you for your emotional and pathetic life history..

Aigbofa:

Hehehe your brother is about to burst some veins! I can imagine him throwing his Chinese made phone at the wall, and yelling at Katz.

babestella:

You are a pathetic fool who still thinks he can steal from the igbos, I stil, tell you that you are a confirmed Tax rogue, go an get a life and stop make money. You are not a match for the igbos. Stop planning schemes to extort money from the igbos using stupid policies, it only exposes your diseased ignorant being that you are. Do you pay tax in Lagos? show me your tax ID. You are not even from Lagos, and you are here talking from your behind. Listen, without igbos, you'll be carrying guns to go rob in neighboring countries. Goat like you, you just woke up to think that igbos are making too much money, instead of asking to be shown how to make wealth, you think you can make money with tax and imposing stupid laws and regulations. Carry your mat and go and sleep in ASPAMDA, you will only count the number of containers that igbos are bring in, and one dime will not end up in your pocket. go and throw your pathetic and bug ridden life into the ocean, ants are much preferred in this ecosystem than having your sorry ass around the igbos. You are a just a common thief. It is only a thief who tries to steal other people's wealth covetousnessly, wake up and go out there and get a life. Or you go and join your dirty criminal brothers in Isalè eko, idumota, mushin to collect 20 naira from buses and taxis. Stupid.

ALTRUTH:

When did Jonathan become president

I don't want to go into politics but you can see why Igbos are bent on supporting Jonathan just for the little he has done for us. At least he has shown that we are part of Nigeria and should be taken care of. It is like giving a man who has not eaten for weeks two sticks of biscuits; he will love you with all his heart and be willing to follow you anywhere. Enugu airport now has an international status and is already doing well, this is good. That Onitsha seaport stuff cannot really do the trick because it can not berth ocean liners. We are hoping that Ibaka seaport commences operations in 2015 at Akwa Ibom. This will be a game-changer for the economy in the East. Most Igbo imports would focus on Ibaka so that pressure on Apapa port is reduced.

Mayor_of_Lagos:

Nigeria was under leadership of Igbo men from 1960 to 66. The Eastern regional government was under the command of Igbo men. What kind of development did you have in Igboland during this time? Even back then places like Calabar and Port Harcourt were more developed than Igbo territories. So with your leaders in position of authority both at national and regional levels, why was your land not developed?

The war ended in 1970. The war was fought to crush the rebellion, it was not a demolition war. Even though the human casualty was high the structures pre existing the war were for most part left intact. So whatever build-up you had before the war, should still be there and recoverable after the war.

Between 1970 till now we have had two Igbo VP. Could they not see that their land needed development? What was their contribution to the development of Igboland?

New States and geopolitical zones created long after the war are by today's scale far more developed and appealing than Igboland. These places have attained the growth because of the vision of their leaders. Example - Jigawa, Edo, Ekiti, Niger, Kogi, these four states are brand new starting from bottom up and they already surpass much of Igboland in terms of appeal for people to settle in, visit or work. Why is Igboland lagging behind these new starters? Its because your leaders do not believe it is their duty to develop and grow alaigbo, they are stuck in the victim sentiment and are holding FG in ransom to come in and turn their region into a paradise. If Jigawa, Kogi, Ekiti were waiting for FG they will never grow to the scale where they are now, and the leadership in these states continue to map new plans and grow areas to attract investment and diversity. Your leaders have indoctrinated in you the mentality that Nigeria and others in this country owe you something, that we owe you development and progress. I ask you, as leaders, what do they owe you. Moreover, your generation will be the leaders there in few years, what do you owe yourselves?

The leaders of other regions will not stop their own growth and progress on account of you, whether you are present or absent but they will challenge your presence when their progress is threatened by it. That is the reaction we have always heard in North and recently in SW. Your presence is questioned. You may individually be able to change your individual destiny but when it comes to your collective future this is a responsibility for the leadership, not the individual.

APC in power will return authority to the regions. What vision do your leaders have to tap early into this projected reality? You muat do for yourself before others can do for you. If you wait for others in Nigeria to do for you your land will never develop beyond its current state and ultimately your entire ethnic group may abandon the land for better appeal elsewhere like Ekiti, Jigawa, Edo, where the indigenes will continously detest and subject you to humiliation.

Challenge your leaders and put pressure on them to bring pride and greatness to your land. If they initiate some projects on their own and get it going perharps FG might approach to help complete it and add more.

jp philips:

Are you asking me to furnish you with Embassy documents for free? you think im as stup1d as your fore fathers, if you want to know about the American interests outside the US, then you pay school fees and take a history class.

who are you to ask me for information? am I ur father?

Aigbofa:

Absolutely, they equate blustering with intelligent discourse. Mor.ons.

true2god: I knw u r educated but u r very wrong to tell me dat edo is more developed dan enugu, ekiti is more than anambra, or Jigawa is more developed dan Imo. I knw u must be joking or u dnt travel outside lagos.



I grow up in Lagos, and aside from Lagos there is no any economically viable state in the south west. Remember that its only the south western states (aside lagos) in the south that took the FG to court over the offshore\onshore dichotomy on oil revenue sharing formula. They said they cant operate without enough oil revenue frm federation acct. The other south western states are poorer than south eastern states.


The pride of south west is lagos, ok?

Aigbofa:

Hehehe your brother is about to burst some veins! I can imagine him throwing his Chinese made phone at the wall, and yelling at Katz.

true2god: I knw u r educated but u r very wrong to tell me dat edo is more developed dan enugu, ekiti is more than anambra, or Jigawa is more developed dan Imo. I knw u must be joking or u dnt travel outside lagos.



I grow up in Lagos, and aside from Lagos there is no any economically viable state in the south west. Remember that its only the south western states (aside lagos) in the south that took the FG to court over the offshore\onshore dichotomy on oil revenue sharing formula. They said they cant operate without enough oil revenue frm federation acct. The other south western states are poorer than south eastern states.


The pride of south west is lagos, ok?

jp philips:

Very annoying how people form opinions from fallacies, as at 2011, Americans in china were totaling 110,000 at a time American's population was less than 350,000. yet somebody is claiming Americans don't seek for greener pastures or evade competition like he put it.

Even if i was that dumb, i wont ever say it in public.

jp philips:

Very annoying how people form opinions from fallacies, as at 2011, Americans in china were totaling 110,000 at a time American's population was less than 350,000. yet somebody is claiming Americans don't seek for greener pastures or evade competition like he put it.

Even if i was that dumb, i wont ever say it in public.

agbameta:


And who are you to insult people with empty rubbish. Insult is never a sane substitution for facts and rational conversation, it only shows the shallow depht of your form and existence.

agbameta:


You are not dumb, but you are still spewing numbers and rubbish without facts... Makes no sense.

jp philips:

there you go again, s1lly, daft and stup1d are no insult for some Nigerians whose buffoonery knows no bounds.
courtesy did a great disservice to pretend or shield a stup!d person from his stup!dity.

some people are who they are "stup!d" and i cant do sh!t about that, I disagree with courtesy on this one, I have the right to say it to their face.[/color]