Mr Troll: I've told you before. You are not capable of contributing meaningfuly in any itellectual discussion. Just stick to your preaching mate. You didn't even address the point I raised. About the born again ish, spare me pls. Been there done all that.

In case you genuinely didn't understand though...can a person who has no idea what christianity is all about get conted by reading the bible alone? If not, why not?

Mr Troll: ^^^

As usual, a lot of gibberish in between.

So in you and the bibles own words, the message is foolishness to those who don't believe. So how do you expect me to believe first before anything will make sense. For example, how do you expect me to believe that aspirin will cure HIV when my common sense and knowledge of how drugs work tell me that its not possible. But apparently, christian logic says that if you just believe it first then it will all just make sense. In other words, drop your power of reasoning and knowledge and just believe, whether it makes sense or not. Nice! Apparently christians will have us believe that god gave us brains and power of reasoning but expects us to NOT use it when it comes to religious matters.

Mr Troll: ^^^

As usual, a lot of gibberish in between.

So in you and the bibles own words, the message is foolishness to those who don't believe. So how do you expect me to believe first before anything will make sense. For example, how do you expect me to believe that aspirin will cure HIV when my common sense and knowledge of how drugs work tell me that its not possible. But apparently, christian logic says that if you just believe it first then it will all just make sense. In other words, drop your power of reasoning and knowledge and just believe, whether it makes sense or not. Nice! Apparently christians will have us believe that god gave us brains and power of reasoning but expects us to NOT use it when it comes to religious matters.

Mr Troll: ^^^

As usual, a lot of gibberish in between.

So in you and the bibles own words, the message is foolishness to those who don't believe. So how do you expect me to believe first before anything will make sense. For example, how do you expect me to believe that aspirin will cure HIV when my common sense and knowledge of how drugs work tell me that its not possible. But apparently, christian logic says that if you just believe it first then it will all just make sense. In other words, drop your power of reasoning and knowledge and just believe, whether it makes sense or not. Nice! Apparently christians will have us believe that god gave us brains and power of reasoning but expects us to NOT use it when it comes to religious matters.

Chibuebem: i'm sorry Troll. But JUST your brain and reasoning powers won't help you when it comes to matters of reality. The bible says the carnal mind is an enemy of God because it can't be subject to the law of God.
And the gospel is foolishness to those that PERISH, not those who witness the power of the message and believe. If you refuse to believe in him, I cannot help you. God cannot help you.

Why is it hard for you to have faith in God? And don't for one moment be decieved to believe that you don't need help, Gods help.

Bludeville:
you have to believe that it will make sense for it to make sense inspite of your knowlege/reasoning. why do you think double blind studies are the standard for clinical trials? haven't you ever heard of the placebo effect? "The physician's belief in the treatment
and the patient's faith in the physician
exert a mutually reinforcing effect; the
result is a powerful remedy that is almost
guaranteed to produce an improvement
and sometimes a cure." -- Petr Skrabanek
and James McCormick,

Mr Troll: your case strong.

One question though...why should I believe in your idea of god as opposed to the myriads of gods that exist and have existed all through the ages? Pls try not not make a fool of yourself this time. Give a good answer bro...

Chibuebem:
my faith strong, yes. God be praised. I've answered this question many times.
None other has dealt with the problem of sin. Only Jesus.

Chibuebem:
Everywhere, you see people who profess to know God, do their lives bear witness? Are they free from the fundamental problem that bedraggles this world? Do they truly know God?

Chibuebem:
This is what the bible says in 1 John chapter 1, its what makes our message special and genuine and above religion. Yes, its deeper than religion.

Chibuebem: my faith strong, yes. God be praised. I've answered this question many times.
None other has dealt with the problem of sin. Only Jesus.
Everywhere, you see people who profess to know God, do their lives bear witness? Are they free from the fundamental problem that bedraggles this world? Do they truly know God?

This is what the bible says in 1 John chapter 1, its what makes our message special and genuine and above religion. Yes, its deeper than religion.

Chibuebem: The claim is in 1st John 1:1-4. We claim that we have the Life of God in Jesus Christ.
Then in verses 5-7, the peculair about us is seen. God is light. If we walk in sin and darkness and pride, we do not live our claim. But we walk in the joy of freedom from Sin Troll. We fellowship with God and we know him. Our lives bear witness.

aManFromMars:
Do us a favour. Define sin. Tell us the problem of sin. And explain how God hanging his son on the cross solved this problem.

- show the problem
- explain how Jesus is the cure and how this cure has worked.




How do you know those who truly know God? Apart from yourself, can you mention anyone else who knows God like you do?



The only thing deeper than religion is religious fanaticism, and I fear that's where you're headed if you continue on this path...

A day will come when you will literally start hearing voices in your head, claim to be able to speak strange languages, claim to know the future etc...

aManFromMars:


If God is light, and omnipresent, from whence cometh darkness?

jayriginal:

That was uncalled for. She has apologized to you. What more do you want?



Ignore him jare.

jayriginal:

That was uncalled for. She has apologized to you. What more do you want?



Ignore him jare.

aManFromMars:

Hey, she's apologised... Like timaya would say, let go..

plaetton:

Ha.
Deism is just a temporary rehabilitation center.
A halfway house for those recently released from the prison of blind faith religion.

Evil Brain:

90 days just to read the bible? Seriously?!? Are you in primary school or something?

Look, just put down the iPad, forget about any reading plan, grab a paper bible and read it. Do it for an hour every night before you sleep. If you're consistent, you'll be done in 2 weeks highest.

I don't know why people act like reading bible is such a Big deal. Anybody who's gone to university must have read far bigger and more difficult books.

Just read the thing.

Uyi Iredia: 2nd comment.

noblefada: @Uyi good you've gotten to Matt 5, did u notice my earlier poser? I wish I could read ur commentary but just too tiny, but pls drop any issue u find interesting.